• Social media analysis: Love him or hate him, vice presidential debate was all about Biden

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    Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

    Social media commentary was fairly closely divided on who did better in Thursday night's vice presidential debate, according to NBC Politics' computer-assisted analysis of more than half a million Twitter and Facebook posts during and after the debate — and people's opinions either way largely came down to what they thought about Joe Biden's hyperkinetic performance.

    Analysis through noon ET Friday suggested that a plurality of commenters thought Biden did better than Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin:

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    M. Alex Johnson M. Alex Johnson is a reporter for NBC News. Follow him on Twitter and Facebook.

    That works out to a 53 percent to 47 percent edge for Biden among commenters who expressed clear opinion.

    (NBC Politics analyzed 517,000 posts using a tool called ForSight, a data platform developed by Crimson Hexagon Inc., which many research and business organizations have adopted to gauge public opinion in new media. It isn't the same as a traditional survey, which seeks to reflect national opinion; instead, it's a broad, non-predictive snapshot of what's being said by Americans who follow politics and are active on Facebook, Twitter or both at a particular moment in time, and why they're saying it.)

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    Generally speaking, pro-Biden comment was straightforward: He did better than Ryan, and he may have helped to make up some of the ground President Barack Obama was perceived to have lost in his debate last week with Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney:

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    But pro-Ryan commentary was very different. Even people who thought he did better were likely to characterize their opinions in reaction to Biden, rather than highlight what impressed them about Ryan — much of whose favorable sentiment was expressed as annoyance at the vice president.

    Biden plays aggressor in debate as Ryan argues GOP case

    A representation of key words in comments that said Ryan did better illustrates the degree to which his performance was defined in relation to Biden's. Notice that the word "Biden" is fully as prominent as the word "Ryan":


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    In sharp contrast, "Ryan" shows up far less prominently in the reciprocal visualization of key words in comments that said Biden did better (it's nestled in the middle of the cluster on the left of the image):

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    A different visualization gives a better idea of why pro-Ryan commenters were pro-Ryan: They found Biden's interruptions and exasperated reactions — captured in split-screen throughout the 90 minutes of the televised debate — to be rude and condescending:

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    Almost as widely discussed a figure was the moderator, Martha Raddatz of ABC News, who was either tough and fair or in the tank for Biden, depending upon who you thought did better:

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    The question remaining to be answered is whether the debate will have made any substantial difference. Many commenters remarked that while they thought one man or the other did better, the debate was unlikely to sway Election Day preferences — a sentiment that was best summed up in this observation:

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  • Ed Schultz: 'I thought Joe Biden made up a lot of ground'

    By Steve Frank
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    Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:55 PM EDT

    Last week, Ed was disappointed by President Barack Obama's performance in the first presidential debate.

    Tonight, in the first and only vice presidential debate, it was a very different reaction from Ed.

    "I thought Joe Biden made up a lot of ground," Ed said in his first reaction on MSNBC to tonight's vice presidential debate between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan.

    He continued: "I have a sense that the liberal community is going to be very satisfied with what Joe Biden delivered tonight.  He was detailed, he was passionate, he made people believe he that he cares about the country and had confidence in which way this administration wants to take the country." 

    Watch Ed's first reaction to tonight's debate.

    "He talked about the progress that has been made and talked about the tough decisions that had to be made and the decisions that were made were the correct decisions.  I think that's what the base wanted hear tonight and they got it from Joe Biden."


    The vice presidential candidates discuss their views on the main topics of the campaign.

    "Now, as far as Ryan is concerned, look, I don't think it's going to take very long for them to start crying about the referee here.  I think that [moderator Martha Raddatz's] reporting skills came out tonight.  She improvised a great deal on the subject matter, I think that is going to be criticized in the right wing media." 

    "Ryan?  Mission accomplished.  He went there tonight and I don't think he hurt the conservative agenda at all.  They don't give details.  They're OK with that.  He was lacking in specifics on the economy, he was lacking specifics in Medicare.  He tried to sell that hard.  Everything Joe Biden said was factual.  Everything that Ryan came back with was 'well that's not right this is what we want to do,' but he really had no detail on anything."

    "And I also thought that Joe Biden's experience tonight on foreign policy, I mean it was a man against a boy.  I mean he got so mixed up, Ryan did, he would not accept that the fact that Afghan forces are also making strides and they're the ones being detailed to the very regions he's talking about." 

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  • Paul Ryan gets testy ahead of debate with Vice President Biden

    By Steve Frank
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    Tue Oct 9, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

    Is the pressure of Thursday's debate with Joe Biden getting to Paul Ryan? 

    On Sunday, a Ryan fundraiser at the Hyatt Regency O’Hare in Rosemont, Illinois, prominently featured a sign banning audio and video recording.

    Ryan's remarks were reportedly routine, so why the sign?  Perhaps Ryan was thinking about those secretly recorded video remarks that Romney made at a fundraiser in May, which caught him saying that 47 percent of Americans were "dependent on government" and saw themselves as "victims."

    Then on the following morning, Ryan sounded worried about the upcoming debate.

    "Because [Obama] had such a bad debate [on Oct. 3], that Joe is just going to come flying at us," Ryan told radio host Frank Beckmann.  "It seems pretty clear that their new strategy is just basically to call us liars, to descend down into a mud pit, and hopefully with enough mudslinging back and forth and distortion, people get demoralized and then they can win by default."

    And later in the day, Ryan just lost it, abruptly ended an interview with ABC 12 in Flint, Michigan, after an exchange on gun violence in inner cities:


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    "Does this country have a gun problem?" WJRT's Terry Camp asked.

    "This country has a crime problem," Ryan responded.  "If you take a look at the gun laws we have, I don't even think President Obama is proposing more gun laws. We have good, strong gun laws.  We have to make sure we enforce our laws. We have lots of laws that aren't being properly enforced. We need to make sure we enforce these laws."

    Ryan continued: "But the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the inner cities, is to help teach people get out of poverty in the inner cities, is to help teach people good discipline, good character. That is civil society. That's what charities, and civic groups, and churches do to help one another make sure that they can realize the value in one another."

    "And you can do all that by cutting taxes? With a big tax cut?," Camp asked. 

    "Those are your words, not mine," Ryan responded.

    With that, Ryan's press secretary abruptly declared the interview over and a clearly irritated Ryan began removing his microphone, saying to the interviewer, "That was kind of strange.  You're trying to stuff words in people's mouths?"

    "Well, I don't know if it's strange," said Camp.

    "It sounds like you're trying to put answers to questions..."  The camera is then covered by white paper.

    Ryan is now in Florida for more debate prep, reviewing Biden’s 2008 debate with Sarah Palin and past Biden speeches.

    Vice President Biden is home in Delaware, preparing for Thursday’s debate, holding mock debates with sparring partner Rep. Chris Van Hollen and reviewing video of Ryan’s speeches and interviews.

    He’s also reviewing video of Ryan’s speeches and interviews and reading Ryan’s book Young Guns.

    Thursday’s 90-minute debate at Centre College, in Danville, Kentucky, will be begin at 9pET.  It will be moderated by ABC’s Martha Raddatz and will cover both domestic and foreign policy.  The candidates will be seated.

    You can watch it live both on MSNBC and here on The Ed Show blog. 

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  • Disputed game prompts Obama to urge NFL to get regular refs back

    By Steve Frank
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    Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

    President Barack Obama is weighing in on last night's disputed end to the Green Bay Packers-Seattle Seahawks football game, saying it's time to resolve a labor dispute and get regular referees back to officiating NFL games.   

    The Seahawks won 14-12 after replacement referees ruled a Seattle receiver caught the ball amid a pile of players in the end zone in the game's last play. The NFL conceded the bad call today, but upheld the Seattle victory. 

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    White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters aboard Air Force One that the president, an avid sports fan, watched the game and "thinks there was a real problem with that call."

    Obama personally tweeted about it this afternoon:

    Even union-busting Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker tweeted his support for the regular refs, who are unionized.

    Green Bay is located in the battleground state of Wisconsin, adding significance to Obama's stance.  

    It's also the home state of GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan, another union buster who calls for the unionized refs to return, but also used the controversy to take cheap shots at the president during a rally in Ohio:


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    "You know, it reminds me of President Obama and the economy.  If you can't get it right, it's time to get out," Ryan said.  "I have think that these refs work part time for President Obama in the budget office!"

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  • Paul Ryan booed at AARP convention when he calls for repeal of Obamacare

    By Steve Frank
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    Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

    Republican running mate Paul Ryan drew boos today at an AARP convention in New Orleans when he said Mitt Romney would repeal the Affordable Care Act (ACA), which closed a gap in coverage for seniors' prescription drugs.

    "The first step to a stronger Medicare is to repeal Obamacare," Ryan said to a chorus of boos.  "I had a feeling mixed reaction so let's get into it."

    Ryan continued (with a typical smirk): "It weakens Medicare for today's seniors and puts it at risk for the next generation (more boos).  First, it funnels $716 billion out of Medicare to pay for a new entitlement we didn't even ask for (more jeers).  Second, it puts 15 unelected bureaucrats in charge of Medicare's future." 

    President Barack Obama rebutted Ryan's charges in a live video appearance to the same audience. He said the Republican voucher prescription for Medicare would mean "billions in new profits for insurance companies"and higher out of pocket costs for seniors.

    Here's a clip of his presentation:


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    AARP, a non-partisan organization, supported the Affordable Care Act.

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  • Ryan's challenger: American Dream is not just for wealthy people

    By Versha Sharma via Lean Forward
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    Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:29 PM EDT

    Mitt Romney is receiving all kinds of flack for his now-infamous 47% comments. But could they hurt his running mate too?

    Rob Zerban, Paul Ryan's Democratic challenger for his Wisconsin House seat, told Ed Schultz Wednesday that Badger State voters are "quite resentful" over the remarks, which were surreptitiously recorded at a Romney fundraiser and posted online Monday by the liberal magazine Mother Jones.

    Zerban said the comments echoed Ryan's own much-debunked assertions at last month's Republican National Convention that President Obama had gone back on a promise to keep open a Janesville GM plant . Ex-Janesville plant employees told Schultz after that speech that Ryan "ought to be ashamed of himself" for the claim.


    Despite Ryan's presence on the national ticket, he's spending $2 million in ads against Zerban—a sign the 7-term incumbent may actually be worried.

    Zerban, who currently trails by around 8 points, said he himself benefited from "government cheese" as a young kid and is living proof of the American dream.

    After taking advantage of Pell grants and Stanford loans—students, of course, account for a good share of the 47% Romney was talking about—the Democrat started two businesses of his own that employ 45 people.

    "I was one of those job creators the Republicans like to talk about," Zerban said, despite his humble beginnings. "The American dream shouldn't just be reserved for people who are wealthy and well-connected."

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  • Frustrated conservatives demand more policy specifics from Romney

    By Versha Sharma via Lean Forward
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    Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

    What's a presidential candidate to do when his own party is calling on him to articulate some actual positions? That's the conundrum Mitt Romney is facing: prominent voices in the Republican base from Rush Limbaugh to former GOP leader Trent Lott are clamoring for him to stop being vague and start being substantive.

    On Tuesday's The Ed Show, GOP strategist and MSNBC contributor Susan Del Percio said "Romney is sending a mixed message out there" with his hedging on issues like health care. That hedging seemingly contributed further to conservative frustration.


    Salon's Joan Walsh said Romney's decision to pick conservative darling Paul Ryan as his running mate has not helped him develop a firmer platform, because the campaign chose to "muzzle" the vice presidential candidate. "Ryan hasn't chosen to stand for anything," said Walsh.

    Del Percio hopes the campaign will serve as a lesson to Republican leaders. Whether "Romney wins or not ... this becomes a campaign where we have to talk about governance, and compromise, and getting things done," she said.

    Still, the GOP consultant doesn't think the next two months will be a walk in the park for the Obama campaign. The base is "very energized," not demoralized, she said, and it's "going to be a very close election."

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  • Reagan budget director slams Romney's 'secret budget plan'

    By Versha Sharma via Lean Forward
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    Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

    The man who handled budget issues for President Reagan has something to say about the Romney-Ryan plan. And it's not a compliment.


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    "They have a secret plan to cut the budget," David Stockman, who ran the Office of Management and Budget under Reagan, told Ed Schultz on Monday night's The Ed Show, adding: "They won't close any loopholes" in order to protect the highest earners.

    "The top 2 percent are so damn lucky from the boom we've had over the past 20, 30 years," Stockman said. "They ought to stop whining about paying a little more in taxes, because we are in trouble fiscally."


    Stockman, who in recent years has emerged as a frequent critic of the modern-day GOP, wrote an op-ed in The New York Times last month in which he slammed Paul Ryan's "fairy-tale budget plan."

    "Mr. Ryan’s sonorous campaign rhetoric about shrinking Big Government and giving tax cuts to “job creators” (read: the top 2 percent) will do nothing to reverse the nation’s economic decline and arrest its fiscal collapse," he wrote.

    But Stockman had harsh words for President Obama, too. 

    "After four years, President Obama hasn't cut a dime out of defense," Stockman told Schultz. "He should be taking on the generals, the military-industrial complex ... [he should] cut back this huge defense establishment we don't need."

     

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  • 'Specifics' and 'principles' are not the same thing

    By Steve Benen via The Maddow Blog
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    Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

    When it comes to its budget pitch to voters, Romney/Ryan has quite a vision: they'll slash taxes, increase defense spending, increase entitlement spending, and balance the budget -- all while protecting the home-mortgage-interest deduction, the health care deduction, and the charitable-contribution deduction. How? By closing unnamed tax loopholes.

    There's growing impatience over the campaign's refusal to offer any kind of substance or details, to the point that even some Fox News hosts not named Shep Smith are getting irritated on the air.

    On "Meet the Press" yesterday, Romney went so far as to try to redefine what the word "specifics" means.

    David Gregory specifically asked for "specifics" to explain how Romney "gets to this math." The Republican replied, "Well, the specifics are these which is, those principles I described are the heart of my policy."

    In other words, in Mitt Romney's mind, specific policy details and broad statements about generalized goals are the same thing. When Gregory asked the candidate to name a single tax loophole he intends to close, Romney would not.

    On ABC, George Stephanopoulos pressed Paul Ryan on this, asked whether "voters have a right to know which loopholes you're going to go after." Ryan said voters would learn the details after the election, once the Romney administration begins workting with Congress.

    Asked if this constitutes "a secret plan," Ryan insisted it does not, saying he and Romney "want to do this out in the open," having "this debate in the public" -- but not until after they're elected.

    Let this argument roll around in your brain for a moment: Romney is trying to redefine the word "specifics" to give it the opposite of its intended meaning, while Ryan is trying to argue that secrecy is actually just a delayed version of transparency.

    I'd long assumed Ayn Rand inspired the Romney-Ryan script. Now, it's looking more like George Orwell.

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  • Paul Ryan suffers amnesia, forgets Dubya as he compares Obama to Carter

    By Steve Frank
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    Mon Sep 3, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

    Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan compares President Obama to Jimmy Carter in a speech in Greenville, N.C. Watch is entire speech.

    GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan is calling former President Jimmy Carter's leadership "the good old days" compared to the last three-plus years under President Barack Obama.   

    "The president can say a lot of things and he will," Ryan told more than 2,000 supporters today in Greenville, North Carolina. "But he can't tell you that you're better off. Simply put, the Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days compared to where we are right now." 

    So the Romney-Ryan ticket is going to defeat Obama by comparing him to an 87-year-old former president who hasn't been in office for more than three decades?

    Mr. Ryan, how 'bout we go back three years instead of three decades (to 2001-2009, definitely NOT known as "the good old days") and look at the last president before Obama, who also happens to be the last Republican president.


    There, you find many reasons the Siena Research Institute of Siena College ranked George W. Bush as the fifth-worst president in U.S. history in 2010.

    Here's a just a few samples:  

    • Worst economic contraction in U.S. since the Great Depression
    • Went to war based on false information (Saddam Hussein's "connection" to 9/11, weapons of mass destruction), 4,000+ Americans killed
    • Mismanagement of Iraq War (no plan for after "Mission Accomplished" banner display)
    • Failure to capture 9/11 mastermind Osama bin Laden
    • Hurricane Katrina ("heck of a job Brownie")
    • Legalization of torture
    • active attempt to privatize Social Security
    • highest gas prices ever in U.S.
    • politically-motivated dismissal of U.S. attorneys
    • illegal surveillance of Americans and other curbs on citizen rights
    • nominated Harriet Miers for U.S. Supreme Court

    Click here for a list of 400 (yes, 400!!) of Bush scandals.

    What's on your list? 

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  • Ex-Janesville GM plant employee: Paul Ryan 'ought to be ashamed of himself'

    By Versha Sharma via Lean Forward
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    Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

    Unique in their unanimity, for once, mainstream and more opinionated media outlets have been calling out Paul Ryan for the multiple distortions in his speech to the Republican National Convention Wednesday night. One assertion has received a little more attention than the rest: Ryan's charge that Obama is to blame for the closing of the GM plant in his hometown of Janesville, Wisconsin.

    One problem: the plant closed all but a few last operations on December 23, 2008 - and Obama was inaugurated as President in January 2009.


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    Though the fact-check articles have piled up, The Ed Show went one step further on Friday night. The best fact checkers are "the people actually given notice they were losing their jobs," said host Ed Schultz, who brought a former Janesville GM plant worker on the show.


    Brad Dutcher, an employee who was at the meeting when then-Senator Obama spoke inside the plant, said Obama "had nothing to do with the decision to close our factory." He also said "there was never a promise made...to keep our plant open. That is completely false."

    Four years after the closing of the plant, Janesville families are still feeling the effects. "We still have families that are separated, we have moms and dads that drive 4, 5 states away that come home on the weekends to see their families," said Dutcher. "To turn this plant closing into a political football is shameful, and he [Paul Ryan] ought to be ashamed of himself." The crowd behind him cheered and affirmed that comment, an audience comprised of people holding pro-union placards.

    Schultz also pointed out another key date before the plant closure: November 18, 2008, when Mitt Romney wrote the now-infamous "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" op-ed column.

    Dutcher took issue with one more Ryan fiction. "When our congressman made the remark that nobody in Wisconsin benefited from those auto loans, it's absolutely false. I have a lot of retirees behind me that still collect the pension they earned because of those auto loans," he said. At his statement, the crowd erupted into cheers and applause. 

    "This entire room is full of Obama supporters," he told Schultz.

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  • Critics pounce on Lyin' Ryan's RNC repeat of GM plant lie

    By Steve Frank
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    Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:09 PM EDT
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    Daily Kos put together this excellent video comparing Ryan's lies with the actual chronology of the GM's closure of the Janesville Assembly plant. Keep in mind President Obama did not take office until Jan. 20, 2009.

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    Nobody is forgetting about Paul Ryan's lies from last night's vice presidential acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in Tampa -- especially the one trying to link President Barack Obama to the closing of a General Motors plant in his hometown of Janesville, Wisconsin.

    "There’s no delicate way to say this. Last night, Paul Ryan lied -- repeatedly, knowingly and brazenly," Stephanie Cutter, the communications director for President Barack Obama, told reporters today. 

    "When the speechwriters came in and said, 'Now, Paul Ryan, we want you to say Barack Obama closed that GMC plant in Janesville,' he should have stopped them and said, 'That isn’t true. That’s not going to be in my first important speech of my political career.' But he left it in," said U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Illinois).

    PolitiFact Wisconsin rated Ryan’s claim "false." 

    "When Wisconsin needed him most, Paul Ryan turned his back on us, repeatedly voting against legislation aimed at helping displaced workers," said Ron McInroy, director of UAW Region 4, which covers Wisconsin.


    "He voted to cut unemployment insurance (UI) and voted against extending UI several times when protection was what Janesville workers needed most."

    Here's what Ryan said last night:

    "My home state voted for President Obama. When he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in Janesville, where we were about to lose a major factory.

    A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: ‘I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.’ That’s what he said in 2008.

    Well, as it turned out, that plant didn’t last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day."

    Then-presidential candidate Obama did visit the Janesville plant on February 13, 2008, and spoke about the need for government investment in alternative energy.  But he did not promise to keep the plant open:

    “I know how hard your governor has fought to keep jobs in this plant. But I also know how much progress you’ve made – how many hybrids and fuel-efficient vehicles you’re churning out. And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to retool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.”

    Of course, this was several months before the financial panic triggered by the fall of Lehman Brothers (Sept. 15, 2008) and Romney's call of "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" (Nov. 18, 2008). 

    The GM Janesville plant closed on Dec. 23, 2008, one month before Obama was inaugurated as president (Jan. 20, 2009). 

    Obviously, any suggestion that Obama had anything to do with the closing of GM Janesville is false.  

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