Poll: Who won the debate?
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Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:39 PM EDT
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Definitely VP Joe Biden. When P.Ryan said not providing enough security in Libya, VP said to him about voting NO for such funding. This is exactly GOPs are doing. They are cutting funds everywhere, not asking rich to pay more taxes, and when things go wrong blaming President Obama.
It's hilarious that the "journalists" at Fox News spent the whole day complaining about VP Biden debating aggressively a week after they PRAISED Mitt Romney interrupting, filibustering, and disrespecting everyone at the prior debate. Once again, "It's OK If You Are A Republican."
You have that right! Fox News has morphed into Fox Tabloid Channel IMHO as they have as much credibility as a tabloid or maybe even less!
Vice President Joe Biden for sure !
Congress-worm Pinocchio Ryan needs to prepare to loose BOTH the VP spot AND his place in Congress.
Ryan, Romney and their puppet masters, the Right-Wing Robber Barons live OFF of America and are the TAKERS.
The 99%, the 47%. the 30, the American workers and families live IN America and ARE THE MAKERS !
I wrote Deinitely VP Joe Biden. When P.Ryan blamed President for not providing security in Libya, VP Biden told him that it was you who voted NO to fund. That is exactly what GOP is doing. They are cutting funds everywhere, not asking the rich to pay little more, and when anything go wrong they are blaming President Obama. VP did great last night. President can do the same in next 2 weeks. Democrats will be in white house.
VP Joe Biden of course , lyin'ryin' just continued with their usually dancin' and shufflin' crap !
Of course Joe Biden won.... he roped a dope!
My ass literally left my chair when Biden mentioned them signing pledges to Grover Norquist. I was jumping up and down and hollering.
@dem4romney34- Ryan only won if you were measuring the amount of water being consumed to re-hydrate from the extreme flop-sweats he was experiencing.
Luv comments on above post - it is great! Biden was masterful. Please quit whining Repulicans about agression & cutting Ryan off --You cheered Romney a week & day ago for cutting off PBO /Leher!! New Media declared Romney winner & harped on for a week because he had style...It didn't matter that he told 57 lies by fact-checker in 38 minutes!!! Ryan the Policy Wonk was wonkied by Joe Biden, VP of USA!!
Absolutely VP Biden won the debate. One big reason is both fat boy limbo and Hateful Hannity were furious and mad. that made my day! Vice president looked in crying Ryin into his eyes, and taught a lesson about telling truth.Wilford was interrupting President, and almost took over the debate and those idiots did not say any thing! Also Republicats did not ask many questions to Bush chenney about 9/11 attact on our own country, and nor they are all squirming about Libya's attack in their country! What a hypocrats!
Sorry dem4romney34, Paul Ryan was stopped on everyone of his lies. V.P. Biden facted checked Paul Ryan at every point. Remember Paul Ryan asked for stimulus dollars because it worked and he knows it saved the country from standing in soup lines. We have a long way to go but the Republicans have blocked every attempt to move the country forward just to make Obama look bad. Even with all of the Republican filibusters our country has still made some recovery.
Biden spanked Eddie Munster and sent him home crying (blue eyes cryin' in the rain). He can cry to Herman, he can cry about being such a terrible candidate on such a terrible ticket - cry me a river, but Ryan got spanked.
That's it davy crockett - Ryan to hit and run at the buzzer, but Biden called it out for what it was and shot it down. It was good sport indeed for Biden, who could've easily have shown more contemptuousness than exasperation (but refrained).
@ 1.7 Dem4 : You are not right when you write liberals are scumbags. It was a great job by VP Biden to point out how many times the Repubs lie. The whole America now seeing that repubs will try to lie lie and lie, change their original positions, as it is not working, and that is the only way they will try to get in the white house. VP Biden WON.
I was very distracted by Paul Ryan's huge nose to the point where I was unable to focus on the debate. At first I thought that the cameramen were highlighting Ryan's nose on purpose to make him look like a dork. But then I realized that his nose had been growing longer and longer like Pinocchio's.
Okay.. I want to know which one of you twitted last night:
911... there's an old man beating a child on my TV?
LOL... that was great!
Way to go Joe! Ok media where are all your polls? How is the President doing now after that major azz kicking they gave to Romney/Ryan?
It wasn't me. But I loved Joe and how he made ryan cry uncle.
Sen
It's funny how Dum4 didn't call Mutt Robme scum when he was dominating the debate last week and telling lie after lie.
It was Bill Maher
TMom
I don't know if it was anyone in here. But they were reading some of the tweets on one of the earlier shows I saw today, and I got a kick out of that one.
It was a Bill Maher tweet? Thanks Kim
It's a good thing for Ryan that he can't get pregnant from "debate rape" or he would be put in the uncomfortable position of forcing himself to have Joe Biden's baby.
@DScully
I hooped and hollered too and I am still amazed that those on the right praised Flip Robme for doing exact what the Vice President did but pilloried the VP How very two faced...
@ 1.18 D Scully : I agree. They are jealous that VP Biden won. Watch out for President in next 2 debates, they will get worse.
@Sen
Yeah I notice its pretty much okay for them to condesend but lord look out if a Democrat should attempt the same thing. Get the torches!
dem4romney34: Sure your a democrat? Not! Your just another BSer and how could you think Ryan won! The only thing Ryan won was the water drinking contest! Ryan couldn't answer any of the questions truthfully.
Soon the bait and switch campaign will come crashing to an end!
Don't you reconize the republican whine. When they dish it out and we excuse them. When we dish it out they become whining babies. They love to be the bullies, but they don't like it when their targets throw mud back in their faces. That is all it is. WHINE, REPUBLICAN WHINE.
@ 1.25 Ethelouise: I agree. It is GOPs character that we are seeing all along in this campaign. They should be ashamed when President Clinton told during DNC Convention that " Republicans created ZERO jobs". I don't know what it is other than that their pride to be elite 1 % ers and that the rest are poor 99% ers. What VP did is what they needed and President Obama should do the same in his next 2 debates.
@Sen
I most assuredly hope so Sen. The republicans will consider it a 'victory' if their boy Flip berates Obama for his poor economic record. What I find fascinating is that when bush was in office if you ever criticized him it was a treasonous incident. People were getting thrown off planes because of something on a t-shirt that was remotely critical to the 'fearless leader'...
David H-2813449
Fox News spent the whole day complaining about VP Biden debating aggressively a week after they PRAISED Mitt Romney interrupting, filibustering, and disrespecting everyone at the prior debate.
And the talking heads at MSNBC didn't spend the whole day praising JOe for doing the same thing.
who is flip flopping now.
@TMom
It's the Repugnicon Whine...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!
Gosh that Michelle Malkin is a nasty hateful B!tch when she's spewin her rancor.
#1.1 6:44 PM --- David H.
ABSOLUTELY, DAVID. IOKIURAR !!
In Other Wurds ---> IOKIURAR = Hypocrisy on STEROIDS.
not to mention our people EAT chicken raised on STEROIDS ... cows on steroids, AND OTHER COWS !! ... chicken on OTHER CHICKEN AND COWS !! ... pigs on steroids and OTHER PIGS, and cows and chicken ... IN OTHER WURDS, a culture of "fast" food, ADULTERATED food, PROCESSED food, PROCESSED, ADULTERATED "NEWS" that's not fit to print -- OR "DIGEST," for Christ sakes.
Garbage In ... GARBAGE OUT.
THAT'S the reality of life in AmeriKa, especially if U R part of the bottom 60 percent.
U know whut the Fox TV network theme song should B ? ... that Beatle song with the lyrics that goes something like THIS ---
--- " CRRRYYYY Baby, Cry Cry ... [instrumental accent, "dun dun dun..." ] ... U aught to know better...cry baby, cry cry ... "
THEY are THE premier CRY BABIES, who just happen to pack heat.
I repeated that from Bill Mayer during the debate.
Unfortunately that blog was deleted.
I thought it was wonderful that Biden RUDELY interrupted Ryan every time he heard a lie.
Joe sounded just like Steve Martin when he says "Weeellll Eeexxxccuuusee Meeeeee!!!!"
Yup real class alright. what a classy guy. He could pass for Archie bunker if Archie had hair plugs and tooth implants.
@TC,
You think it is the most horrible thing in the world when someone stops a conservative politician from lying?
That's why you are criticizing Joe Biden?
Really?
Ryan said the stimulus was the most horrible job killing thing in the world after he sent two letters to the white house requesting stimulus money because it would create jobs.
You think it is a bad thing that Joe Biden stopped Ryan from saying things like that?
My Xmass wish is for Obama to get obnoxious and rude with Romney every time Mitt for Brains lies in the next debate.
Hope I get my wish!
RE: Comment #1, (Sen-3132419)
That's only the tip of the iceberg! We also have:
However, the GOP refuses to allow any of those Bills, which will directly or as a byproduct, require jobs to be created. Nor will the GOP allow Obama's Jobs Act to be passed. All because the GOP has an agenda to prevent passage of any legislation that they believe would make Obama look good and increase his chances of being reelected. Deliberately obstructing the Middle Class and Working Poor from being able to recover from the Great Recession - in direct violation of the US Constitution - purely for Party Politics, to make Obama and the rest of the Democrats look bad, so they can reclaim the White House and the Senate, thereby having "complete" control over the federal legislative agenda too. Then the trump card: the next President will be able to appoint at least 2 Supreme Court Justices, which may quite well lead to Roe v. Wade being repealed, leading to women dying from coat hanger abortions again.
@ 1.36 Cosmic : Great Post. I agree with everything. This is what GOPs are doing. Blocking all ideas, bills presented by the Democrats and then blame them. Americans are smarter than those rich GOPs and their tactics. All American people who are in 99%, MUST vote for President Obama if they want to live in America with dignity. A vote for Mitt R. will destroy everybody's dignity in America.
Biden won but unfortunalty after being fact checked Biden lied like hell. The lack of security had nothing to do with funding. Biden said anybody making over a million would be taxed at a higher rate. Another lie Obama says its anybody making over 250k. Biden said that they were told about the security situation in Libya. Anorher flat out lie testimony the previous day said that they were told. Just about everything Biden said has been fact checked to be a lie. However it was good theater and him laughing the whole time was priceless.
How come conservative lies always begin with Fact Checked and end with no link to prove anything?
Duhhhh.
Romney robbed taxpayers through a complicated scam where Bain Capitol steals retiree pensions then places them on social security without paying into that system.
Romney is unfit for military duty because of brain injury suffered in a fatal French auto accident.
Romney has no respect for women.
Romney has utter disregard for all human life unless you are wealthy.
Senior Mormon clergy, like Mitt Romney, use tithing donations for personal profit instead of social support for the poor and homeless.
The Mormon faith has sunk $billions$ into lavish real estate development and casinos during the worst homeless crisis since the Great Depression.
This is the ultimate insult because gambling violates LDS beliefs - only non believers are robbed.
Mitt Romney is called the "Tin Man" for a good reason.
Coma indicates damage to the limbic system that control emotions.
The limbic system is the source of the emotions that make up our personality, and this is damaged by the kind of blunt force trauma that causes unconsciousness.
Romney has no conscious.
Romney was able to siphon the bulk of his wealth from the poor and unemployed because he is utterly devoid of empathy.
Pension funds are used as collateral to obtain impractically large loans, and these loan proceeds are siphoned off as consulting fees and profit instead of the legitimate purposes like factory retrofits and other company improvements.
Retirement pension funds are guaranteed by the federal government through the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation (PBGC).
The lead investigator for the PBGC is Ms. Schneider, a former employee of Mitt Romney at Bain, which is how Mitt Romney and Bain have avoided penalties for stealing pension funds and defrauding taxpayers.
Romney and Ryan have been advocating social security and medicare cuts to reduce their own taxes after Romney profited from people forced to rely solely on social security and medicare after confiscating their retirement funds for personal gain.
Links provided for fact checking (click to verify).
Crackhead you do know that you just called Obama a liyer right?
Crackhead just called Romney a liyer.
And High Rolla is a delusional troll.
If you don't print money or tax income then you need to borrow it or rub a magic lamp.
Money has to come from somewhere. Romney says he will get the money by cutting spending. Budget cuts are called austerity, which works like this:
Romney and Ryan both said they can't explain what they want to cut because "it's complicated".
It's only complicated because you can't explain a lie, and the lie will only become more obvious as more information is provided.
Lying sack of Mitt.
Lyin' Ryan.
I soooooo want to see MSNBC put this in front of the voters before Noremember.
And Decepti-con-servatives keep bringing up Ronald "Alzheimer's" Reagan as if he is some kind of superhero that saved the whole universe from utter destruction.
If this is your hero ........ then OMG!!!
OK boys and girls i will play even though it is not my style
Trolling from a delusional blog site instead of a credible news organization or university.
Really?
If "conservative studies" mated they would be so inbred that its offspring would have one big eye right in the middle of its forehead.
How desperate.
At least I posted my own original material.
With links to actual facts that come from the real world.
The guy at the blog you quoted from appears to be unable to provide links to credible information.
Kind of like you, TC.
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@CA, DScully, Cosmic Chuck, TheRealChris, Ethelouise, Sen, TM,
At least by now you have to ackknowledge that that you have endorsed a man that has no executive experience and has no idea how to run a business, let alone a country. Barack Obama has been a failed President. Barack Obama's foreign policies have been an absolute failure. We haven't had an Ambassador die under a President's watch since Carter. Carter is loving this.
What the hell happened in Benghazi? The Obama Administration wants the American public to think it was a youtube video.
Everyone knows the Obama Administration tried to cover up a terrorist attack because they are so reluctant to call anything terrorism and just because OBL is dead, Al Quieda is no longer a threat.
notice thAt whatever you are trying to show is in CLINTON TOWNSHIP. is that named after your pal slick willie?
TC, I am disappointed in you - Don Fredrick, who just so happens to be a 'birther' and from a blog. A little more thought from you, please.
Robwert
You should be. I said earlier tonight that I was going to play. I wanted to prove anybody can find any crazy inflammatory theory possible and print it as truth. If you will look around I am playing tit for tat. I have been responding to crazy with crazy look above any of my posts to see what lunacy I am responding to
It is fun to have no standards of decency, honor, or truthfulness for a change but not rewarding or fulfilling.
Well . . . that is good of you to describe yourself this way. It is just confirmation of what the rest of us already know.
All you do here is look down your nose at others who post thoughts and opinions other than your own.
We post facts - and you hate those.
We post opinions - and you hate those-
We respond to your hate-filled diatribe with humor - and you hate that.
I think you have us confused with progressive bloggers who give a rat's patootie what you think of the rest of us.
If you don't like what we post here - get lost. Go snivel and whine with your Right-Wing puppet masters who are the true ' bad sports'.
And Drill Baby . . . where was your FAKE moral outrage about Middle Eastern conflicts and the LIES the GW administration told about WMD ? Sometimes in military conflicts information evolves about what is going on.
For example : Ms Condolezza Rice STILL claims there were Weapons of Mass Destruction being assembled by Sadam Housein . . . and there NEVER were.
Did you ever call her or the GW Intelligence / Military communities of being liars because of this ?
NO ?
That may be because you are as phony a hypocrite as has every blogged here.
You do not GIVE A DAMN about America or Americans. If you did you would NEVER support the Right-Wing, Racist, Homophobic, Women-Hating, Teapublicans as you do.
Grow a conscience and THEN come back and blog here.
Republican Strategist Hammered Over WMD Lies (Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rObziJhJhgQ
hope
what was that stuff that Saddam used to kill the kurds. Poison gas or one of your farts?????
#1.35 2:36 AM -- Crackhead :
tee hee heee heee HEEEE ... " Mitt for Brains " !!!
i LUV IT ... may i use it sometime in the near future ?? ass-u m- ing these repos don't cause a nuclear nightmare in northern Africa as THEIR October "SURPRISE " holiday "gift" to AmeriKa ??
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/
Thank you Rosa Parks
You may want to watch what you post on this progressive blog. WE CHECK FACTS and we call out racism. We know that your puppet masters hate fact checkers and hate the middle class.
Yes , your racism is showing again and as usual ! Idiot !
Sad Lyin Ryan clown face.
Just a little diversity.
Joe knocked it out of the park and then some..
I slept like a BIRD last night, loved watching Joe ruffle Ryans feathers.
There was never a doubt why President Obama picked Joe for VP.
I am so excited to cast my vote for President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.
Those babies will still be crying in November..
I than Rosa Parks, Martin L. King and any one else who sat at the lunch counters and wouldn't ride the buses. I say thank GOD that they stood up for them selves when we white people were treating them like animals to be used and mistreated. Thank God there are many people who have enough respect for themselves not to stoop that low any more.
I'm from the era of white and colored labled bathrooms and separate labled water fountains in a southern town in Tn. I wish I had known then what I have come to know now....
Thank God for Rosa Parks and Martin L. King....We as women have won our right to vote and take charge of our own bodies. There were those that paved the way for many of us to be free. As an American I don't intend to lose those rights.......Thank you.
Joe, tonight you are our hero...
@katiekat & TMom
President Obama does indeed have a good guy on his side, working as the Vice President. They are definitely a winning pair.
Thank God for Rosa Parks and Martin L. King, and Gloria Steinham and others who have fought the tough fight for civil rights and equal rights for all of us... regardless of race, sex, nationality, sexual preference, etc.
If Mutt and Jeff win, we loose all of those rights. So go Obama/Biden 2012
VP Joe Biden
Joe definitely won the debate, and what was Lyin Ryan talking about with the Navy being the smallest since before WWI? Hmm, I would think the Navy was pretty strong then considering there were no cargo planes or anything of that sort...
Wasn't it great when Lyin Ryan interrupted Joe's truth telling to say he understood that Joe was under duress or pressure.... and Joe just laughed.
You don't suppose that was a tell of what Lyin Ryan was feeling?
DScully
I think he was upset because he had to urinate from all that water he was drinking.
Of course Ryan was the one feeling stress, he drank enough water
to prove that..thought he might have to ask Joe for a bath room break.
I loved every minute of Joe Biden...Now its President Obama's turn...
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/in-praise-of-martha-raddatz/
October 11, 2012, 11:24 pm324 Comments
In Praise of Martha Raddatz
By ANDREW ROSENTHAL
Let me say a few words about the really astonishing person who appeared at the vice presidential debate on Thursday – the moderator.
Martha Raddatz of ABC News didn’t ask puffy questions like Jim Lehrer did at the presidential debate. Or let the candidates get away with vague non-answers, as Jim Lehrer did.
Ms. Raddatz acted like a working journalist instead of a television personality from her first question, on Ambassador Stevens’ death: “It was a pre-planned assault by heavily armed men,” she said. “Wasn’t this a massive intelligence failure, Vice President Biden?”
Later, she pressed Mr. Ryan. “Governor Romney, and you’re talking about this again tonight, talked about the weakness; talked about apologies from the Obama administration. Was that really appropriate right in the middle of the crisis?”
“Mr. Ryan,” she said, “I want to ask you about — the Romney campaign talks a lot about no apologies. He has a book called ‘No Apologies.’ Should the U.S. have apologized for Americans burning Korans in Afghanistan? Should the U.S. apologize for U.S. Marines urinating on Taliban corpses?”
Mr. Ryan’s response: “Oh, gosh, yes. Urinating on Taliban corpses?”
Ms. Raddatz showed a consistent willingness to call the candidates on their “malarkey,” as the Vice President put it. When Mr. Ryan said he could cut taxes without reducing the deficit by eliminating loopholes, but didn’t actually mention which loopholes, she drew attention to his evasiveness: “No specifics, again.”
And she refused to let Mr. Ryan ignore her question about his ticket’s plan to increase the defense budget. By my count, she returned to that point six times, culminating with the rather sharp: “I want to know how you do the math and have this increase in defense spending?”
With 15 minutes left, after dragging the candidates through taxes, Medicare, Social Security, the budget deficit, terrorism and Afghanistan, she raised a topic that didn’t come up at all last week: How did each of the candidates’ personal beliefs (they are both Catholic) affect their views on abortion.
Mr. Ryan mentioned seeing an ultrasound of his first child at seven weeks, “who was in the shape of a bean.” He said he believes “that life begins at conception.” He said he respects other people’s views, but then made it clear he does not respect their rights.
Mr. Biden said his “religion defines who I am” and that included accepting his church’s doctrine that life begins at conception. “I just refuse to impose it on others, unlike my friend here the Congressman,” he said.
Then Ms. Raddatz cut through the malarkey: “If a Romney/Ryan ticket is elected, should those who believe that abortion should remain legal be worried?”
The answer from both candidates was yes.
“We don’t think unelected judges should make this decision.” Mr. Ryan said. Mr Biden said: “Just ask yourself, with Robert Bork being the chief adviser on the court for Mr. Romney, who do you think he’s likely to appoint?”
We’ll have an editorial on how the actual candidates performed, but Ms. Raddatz certainly won her part of the debate.
Ryan said six studies confirmed their tax plan adds up. What he didn't say is that two of those come from Right-wing blogs and a third one was commissioned by Romney's campaign. I'm sure NONE of those would be partisan, would they?? I can only imagine the other three would be just as bi-partisan. :)
@Thankful Mom
Thank you for this article which proves my point that Ryan does not know 5th grade math because his assertion from last night did not add up no matter how much the trolls claim that it does.
@MJB in Des Moines
I know all the 'studies' that Ryan quoted and gave a huge amount of credibility to were done by right wing nut jobs, yet he seems to think he can quote those 'studies' that are based on 'funky' math that their tax plans will work without increasing the deficiet.
That's really funny because it had not worked in 30 years - Biden was right!
@Ethelouise
LOL.. that could be. Unless he thought ahead and equipped himself with a Depends.
Old joe kept calling him his friend. If I had a friend like that I might just look for new ones.
@MJB
Of course their studies nor their math add up... and they won't accept the reports of the Congressional Budget Office which is non-partisan and is required to add up the numbers on all of the budget bills.
Did you hear the latest? Bain Capital is shutting down a plant in Freeport, Ill. that employs 170 workers, because they're moving it to China. To add insult to injury, the guys in the plant had to train some Chinese workers that came over for a week to learn how to use the equipment, which they will ship to China. And the icing on the cake is the people had to take down the American flag for that week! Romney still has about an 8 million dollar investment in Bain. This is what's going to happen to the whole country if Romney gets in. My God that's scary.
@MJB
Yeah... I saw that story and it is disgusting. Closer to home for my family... my brother is a pilot for American Airlines, which declared bankruptsy last year. And it is Bain Capital that is handling the taking apart of American Airlines. As part of the bankruptsy, the AA decided to merge with another airline, US Airways I think.
Anyway... awhile back American Airlines stopped negotiating with the union reps of their staff... which include the pilots, stewards/esses, mechanics, maintenance crews, etc. over their contracts, benefits, retirement, etc. AA told these employees that they were simply going to loose their contracts, benefits, half of their retirement, etc. So their union went to US Airways who would negotiate with them and they ended up getting a much better deal than AA was offering them.
But apparently the union going behind AA's back and negotiating with US Airways directly for these workers they represent, pissed AA off. So now AA is doing things to make it look like the workers are causing problems, etc. For instance, the Airline keeps calling my brother and telling him that a flight he was scheduled to pilot has been cancelled and he doesn't have to show up. Then AA turns around and blames the cancelled flights on these pilots, stewards, etc for not showing up.
Recently... there were a number of AA flights that had to land because the seats were loose inside the plane. I'll bet you anything that the airline had the seats loosened themselves, so they could blame the maintenance crews or whoever for tampering with the planes. Anyway, it's a pretty bad situation.
I am still waiting for Biden to answer Martha 's first question. Aren't you guys interested in it or is that too much to ask.?
I am still waiting for Ryan to answer Martha's question about which tax cuts he would recommend.
Romney and Ryan both say they can't explain the cuts because "it's complicated".
A lie becomes more obvious as you explain more about the lie.
It's complicated my a$$.
If you don't print money or tax income then you need to borrow it or rub a magic lamp.
Money has to come from somewhere.
Romney and Ryan can't explain where it's going to come from because they are lying.
Well I can see this site is full of a lot of people in lala land.
The Joker vs Robin. The Joke will always lose.
Romney/Ryan 2012
hi debroa good to see you.
lala land is being kind. I hide here most of the time so glad for you to drop by however you may be gritting your teeth after a while. I am immune i have had the shots. lol
Hi Thoughtful, maybe I'd better go get mine. I come here now and then, it seems that most of the time if you hang too long you are truly in for a fight. I almost hate to fight back because I think it is cruel to hit a blind person, but sometimes they need to be hit. :)
Take care my friend.
So you agree with my math.
The American people won because Biden gave them the facts!!!!
What facts?
Some , just refuse to understand ! Obama/Biden 2012 !
Yea like you.
COW PIE!
Have you waded out of the bull@!$%# Lyin Ryan left behind on stage at the debate? What a load of crap! Almost as big as the pile that Mutt Robme left behind.
@Mudslide
Cowpie can't help it, his head is full of sawdust.
Cow pie has selective sight, hearing and memory. If it isn't right wing it doesn't exist or isn't true.
ho, is just here to see how many times he can try his three or four words, and hit "Post Comment"
Thats a Winner!was better than ho-lee-cow and thats a fact.
I have been told, " watch out for the man that is looking to fight you with a smile on his face. He will enjoy the fight."
If Joe is smi'lin... Ryan is ly'in.
I can not feel sorry for a man who, because of his ego, lies.
I almost felt sorry for Ryan except his beliefs, lies and governing are very wrong for our great country!!!! Biden understands our needs!!!
The GOP will lie right up to the last minute..They have tried everything
to win. Lots of Big Money and many many lies...We the people will win
over crooks and liers...Vote President Obama 2012
That said, Romney/Ryan remind me of silver tongued devils. They talk a good story.
Absolutely...some call it a "Forked Tongue"... just like a snake!
@Jean Taua
My Grandma used to tell me to watch out for people like that she used to say look out becuase he is the devil in a Sunday hat!
Oh come on Ed you know the answer to that Joe did.
Great job Uncle Joe!
Biden kicked butt. Republicans confuse "lying with intense passion" with "winning." They are wrong.
V.P. Biden mopped the floor with Congressman Ryan.
Biden needs to be put in chains. He is a lunatic.
Yea! Great ain't it??!!
Hey Bill, run on over to Fox News and enjoy the Biden bashing ... you add "NOTHING" to this fourm. Joe has integrity and class! He's honest and truly cares about the "Middle Class!!!!!"
Bill 3, you are an idiot. You know VP Biden won and you cannot accept the truth, you are like all those other lunatic republicans. All they do is piss and moan and lie, Joe Biden chewed up Ryan and spit him out . Does my heart good to see crazy, idiots like you and the crazy republicans. LOL,LOL, HA! HA! in your face and the disgusting republicans like Trump. Palin, Hannity, Laura, Colter, huckabee, Christy all raving , mad crazy, lunatics including you crazy Bill 3.
Where do you think 3 gets his ideas......fake noise. He has none of his own.
"lunatic" is anyone who actually believes these two bandits won't get rid of all the programs that help the elderly, and less fortunate folks in this country. Lunatic is anyone who thinks they will have jobs that are, as we speak, being outsourced to China. Look at the Illinois Bain capital-owned company where the workers had to train their Replacements who came from China to learn the jobs that will be theirs. The company is due to close the day BEFORE the election! the current American employees are protesting outside the plant. Oh, and also they took down the American flag and put up the CHINESE flag!!!!
The most important part of this is that Romney still owns OVER 50% of stock in the company from Bain and he is not doing ANYTHING to stop this. He says it's not up to him. HE WILL STILL COLLECT MONEY FROM DIVIDENDS WHEN THE COMPANY MOVES TO CHINA! It will probably go to his overseas accounts.
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL. THEY ARE UNAMERICAN!
@Sandy, foxylady and TMom
I always liked those KILL BILL movies. This one is as disgusting and crazy as the movie Bill.
Did it make Bill 3 cry a big puddle of tears every time Biden interrupted Ryan every time he told a lie?
Boo hoo.
Joe Biden kicked butt! Lying Ryan was full of Malarky! Facts matters! Who wants a flip floper to tell you what you can and cannot do with your body! Joe you Rock!!!!!
V P Biden did great, letting all the world know that he and President Obama are definitly working for all Americans. Lying Ryan did what he does best, he lied
Ryan was picking up his teeth with broken fingers by the end of the debate.
Vice-President Biden !! No disrespect intended, but Ryan reminds me of a grown-up version of Eddie Munster.
We've been calling him that for a long time. As much water as he drank last night, his first stop must have been the men's room! A sign of nerves. You notice Cool Joe didn't drink that much water. Michael Moore tweeted Ryan was 6% body fat and 94% water! Ha!
thank you windancer, I knew it was someone that Ryan reminded me of and I could not think who it was, you hit it dead on, he looks exactly like Eddie Munster, could pass for his twin.
Paul "Eddie Munster" Ryan (click here).
source of Bidens new teeth
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Source of Thoughtful Conservative's new teeth (click here).
Love U buddy.
Teeth.
You're losin it pal. Zanex
I agree the American people won VP Biden gave us the facts with class, style, knowledge and a Smile!
VP Biden! Every time he smiled, we knew he was going to tell us the truth. Very refreshing.
Truth about what?
About how romney and ryan are liars, silly!
Go chew your cud, Cowpie, and take your nasty flies with you.
We're not interested.
I thought maybe cow was still choking on that vomit he prefers to consume.
LOL. Ho-lee, what debate were you watching? Too funny how GOPers can't handle reality
The special ed show liberals.
They aways win.
Never been wrong ever.
Have all the right answers and solutions.
Ever notice they all are Phd's.
Experts in, economics, law, the constitution, physics, human rights, and so on.
Must be nice to be so smart.
Yet none of them can do simple 8th grade math.
They just do what the special ed show tells them to.
It's interesting that when Obama flopped the Democrats and the pundits admitted it to themselves and the world. The Republicans and their puppet punditry on the other hand are in complete denial and are claiming that Biden was disrespectful and muddled, while Ryan specifically laid out the Romney plan making himself look presidential.
Joe back in chains was a disaster.
That seems to be what you people love the most, failure.
Unemployment is down, stock market is up, bin Laden remains dead, banking profiteers have been taken out of the pell grant equation, Iraq is in the rearview mirror, automobiles are rolling off the assembly line, military being drawn down with an end date in sight to the pointless war in Afghanistan, women such as Lilly Ledbetter can demand justice in the workforce, and after 70 years of B/S debate, health care is being addressed. And yet there remains many problems that need to be corrected.
Now... who is best for the job? The guy that achieved all the above or a person that can't say what he is for except that he is for anything that he said before?
Looser . . . Party of One . . . user name Ho Lee Arse . . . your table is ready on the SS Teatnic ! Ejoy your trip into oblivion with your Right-Wing-Nut puppet masters !
Sure you bet. Leftwingnut.
ho-lee finally tells the truth. we don't do eighth grade math 'cuz most of us can do college math or higher. ho-lee and his right wing gas holes can't do math higher than first grade arithmetic. that;s why they believe romney/ryan's fantasy math.
yup, ho-lee and the rest of its ilk strive for ultimate ignorance so that romney's lies are "truth" to them.
Boo Hoo! Go away un-ho lee cow. Cry somewhere else. We are so tired of you not adding anything to the conversation. Whine, whine, whine.
@Derek
Right you are, but if Mutt Robme and Lyin Ryan win election, all of those things will be UNDONE.... except for the Bin Laden being dead of course.
Obama/Biden in Nov 2012
Dem controlled Senate & Congress in Nov 2012
@marvellus
What I really don't understand is that cow keeps referring to us as 'special ed' and that we cannot do math. Neither can those on the Vulture/Voucher ticket because they cannot add - or subtract. They keep saying that they will cut taxes 20% across the board yet have never really explained HOW they are going to pay for it or where that money will come from.
Really cow whose the one with the math issue now? Oh and hows that vomit working our for ya?
is ho shedding tears, or is that just left over water from ryans glass? Nope, must be tears.
and who does paul ryan keep referring to as "the stench"?
his running mate, mitt-flop romney.
Mr cow<<>> you dont want to here---------------so go back to Fox and VOTE
@marvilous & Ethelouise
That's right... Cowpie doesn't have the facts, as usual. In fact, just a few years ago, I took a Statistics class for my Master's program.
Yes Cowpie, that was my 2nd Master's degree. What level of math did you say you can do.... 8th grade?
WOW, let's do some math. Take what you earn subtract half and give it to the government so they can give it to those who don't earn a dime.
Hummm, so I can get money without working for it and others have to pay me for doing nothing. Sounds like a deal.
@drpaultyler
Yeah... it's a bummer, isn't it? But that is how Mutt Robme made his millions. Taking over failing companies, applying for millions of $s in government funds meant to help failing companies... which Robme would simply add to the workers' pensions and any other assets he could bleed from the company... leaving it an empty shell and the workers out of their jobs and their pensions. Mutt Robme made his millions as a Vulture Capitalist and a Swindler.
Then he hides those millions of $ in ill-gotten gains in foreign bank accounts to protect himself from taxation or having to pay any of that tax payer money back to the government. And now he wants to be the President, so he can see how much he can swindle out of the entire country as a whole. What a patriotic guy... right?
Is Hoe Lee Cow crying a big puddle of tears because Biden interrupted Ryan every time he told a lie?
Boo hoo.
Waaaaaahhhh.
WOW, Math does not work my friend!
Actually, DScully-2892243. I was referring to the democrates. Sorry to burst your bubble. But wait before you open your can of insults, now that I have disagreed with you. Take a point at look at it. I am not against programs that help people (SS, medicare, welfare, food stamps, free phones, etc). HOwever, there are those in our country that have a dependent mentallity. They think the government owes them something for nothing. People who are capable of taking care of themselves independantly, but REFUSE to do so.
drpaul
Yes... I'm aware of whom you in your deluded rightwing mind were referring to, with the usual rightwing fantasy about hordes of lazy democrats leeching of the system and collecting government $ while doing nothing to contribute to society. That of course is only the rightwing's absurd fantasy and has nothing to do with reality.
I was pointing out the FACTS about who it is that is REALLY leeching off the government and contributing nothing to society. Those who are really only interested in profiting at the expense of the average citizen in the country.
It's the 1%ers who have compiled their million by ripping off the system, then bought the lawmakers to write the tax codes with plenty of loopholes to favor them... so they can pay 0 in taxes, collect more subsidies and not have to contribute a damn thing to the society that made them filthy rich.
And now Mutt Robme wants to be the President of the 1%, so he can make things even sweeter for himself and his fellow leeching millionaire friends. We don't need a SWINDLER, VULTURE CAPITALIST, OUT SOURCER AND TAX CHEAT turning the government over to the greedy corporations entirely for privatization and their own profit.
1. I guess you couldn't resist the personal attack.
2. Never categorized the hordes as democrates.
3. I see your point, 1% not paying their fair share.
However, the bush tax cuts are a contributor to this what you call cheating. Before bush the tax cuts for those who made over 1 million the tax rate was 36% after the cuts the rate was dropped to 32%. Would you care to take a guess how many of the the top ten income earners in congress voted on the bush tax cut extension, all of them. Care to guess how many of the 10 are democrats? SEVEN
SWINDLERs, VULTURE CAPITALISTs, TAX CHEATs, .......their own profit?
@drpaultyler,
Your idea about dependency is a very appealing lie.
The maximum benefit wealthy receive is public education of their workers and investors, which is the reason the United States dominates the world as the most productive economy.
The return on investment is about $10 of increased economic productivity for every $1 spent on public education, which more than pays back the cost just from increased tax revenue if low-cost education is provided for free.
The #1 request by the wealthy is to cut education funding.
Republicans consistently do cut public education, which causes higher illiteracy rates among youth that creates higher unemployment and higher crime.
Unemployment and crime have increased under every Republican president for that reason.
The only exception for the Republican unemployment/crime trend is Reagan, who is the only Republican president that increased education spending.
The #1 thing that is guaranteed to eliminate poverty and dependency is education.
Bush plundered public education to get the money he used for the Bush Tax Cuts, which exploded the prison population so bad that the United States became the most crime ridden country on the planet.
It is called No Child Left Behind.
Romney/Ryan say they want to do more of that because their contributors would like to eliminate wasteful public spending like that.
Please feel free to click anywhere to read the article.