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Sheenae Westmoreland drops her ballot into the box after voting at the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections Tuesday, Jan. 31, 2012, in Cleveland.
What a week for democracy!
On Wednesday, a federal judge said he'd issue a permanent injunction against provisions in that state's new election law that restricts third-party voter registration drives.
Yesterday, a federal appeals court in Washington struck down the Texas voter ID law requiring photos for voters at the polls, calling it racially discriminatory.
Then today, a federal judge in Ohio issued a preliminary injunction in the case involving state law that cuts off early voting on the Friday evening before a Tuesday election, except for military personnel and Ohio voters living overseas.
U.S. District Judge Peter Economus concluded that the law violates the Constitution’s guarantee that all voters enjoy equal access to the franchise.
Republicans passed the law in an effort to suppress the vote, making it more difficult for Democratic constituencies to vote.
Attorney General Mike DeWine quickly announced he would appeal the decision.
Ed is very passionate about the issue of voter suppression and he'll dive into today's decision tonight at 8pET on MSNBC with outspoken state Sen. Nina Turner (D-OH).
Two new polls show President Obama is just a few points ahead of Mitt Romney in Ohio. This election is going to be a game of inches, and the Republicans are all but blocking the vote. Ed Schultz talks to former Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner and State Senator Nina Turner about how the new rules could change the outcome of the election.
"If you are poor, working class, middle class, elderly, African-American, Hispanic or a woman, you are SOL when it comes to Republicans," Turner said in her latest appearance on The Ed Show (on Aug. 23, 2012). Here's the video:
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This federal judge earned his salary this month. Extended voting days that worked in 2008 could not be rolled back in this year's 2012 election after Ohio's debacle of the election of 2004. It is completely predictable that the GOP/ALEC led initiative of Voter ID/voter suppression seems to be running into a solid stonewall of legal resistance in Florida, Texas, and now in Ohio. If you read the 1965 Voter Rights Act and the 24th Amendment to the Constitution, it is very obvious to any student of political science that the majority of these GOP attempts at voter suppression are unconstitutional and anti-democratic even anti-American. These Voter ID laws and other attempts to cut back on extended voting days need to have more legal action by the Department of Justice and in federal court until all of them are struck down, nullified or else severely modified to accommodate all eligible voters. Pennsylvania's Voter ID law needs to be challenged all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary by the Department of Justice.
YES - Put All these Goofball Dictators Back in their Place and Restore America And OUR Constitution from this Attempted Take-Over Of America --- NO-NAZI's - NO-NAZI's In AMERICA !!!!! The New 4th Reich Is Being Beaten -- YES ......... Still Much More To Do ......... How About TREASON Charges for ALL of These GOMERS -- hey .......Throw Them in PRISON or Gitmo..........
I guess CLinton was busy making some phone calls this week and pulling in some markers. The Dems have won for now, but we will see what the final verdict is when these cases go in front of the Supreme Court...which has already ruled by a 6-3 vote that Voter ID is constitutional.
Just saying...
Except that was for the state of Indiana in 2008 and only that state, you also left out the part where the state was required to provide provisional ballots to those who had no photo Id as well as Indiana was not requiring new photo ID like the new laws are requiring in 2012. So once again capt re reg is just lying.
Stormy sounds like the whicked witch of the west. 'Youv'e won for now my little pretty!...But I'll get you!...And your little dog too"!!
GITMO is only open because there was so much FAKE outrage from rightwing nutz! Are you having memory problems? AGAIN! Seems to run in the party!
What Stormfront here doesn't want everyone to know is that you already have to show ID to vote!
@will Re: #1.8
Closing GITMO required Congressional approval, which the Republicans blocked.
wow weak
CC...
It is not a requirement in all states to show an ID. Where it is...congrats.
It doesnt bother me that people without an ID get to cast a provisional ballot, that is the way it should be. And if that person can prove within a certain amount of time that they are who they say they are....great...their vote gets to count.
Just saying..
No it is not required to have a certain form of photo id but you need to vote. I know reality is tough for you guys since you've stop being accountable to fact checking
Uh oh. How will Mitt get elected if everyone can vote?
CC...the argument is not whether everyone needs to vote. I agree with that and am in favor of 100% turnout of every properly registered legal citizen turning out during a voting cycle and casting their ballot for the candidate of their choice.
The fact is..in some states...there is no requirement to prove who you are when you walk into a polling location. Anybody could walk in and pretend to be anybody they want to be and take their vote away. Maybe not in your town or state....but in mine where the poll workers do not ask for any type of ID, it could happen very easily.
just saying...
Right but again capt re reg no one can just walk into a polling location and vote without registration. So your whole argument is based on hysteria that someone might vote who isn't who they say they are and it never happens, ffs the US has the reverse problem, people don't vote, in 2010 only 37% of citizens who could vote did vote, really capt re reg getting people to vote is what is wrong with this country, the GOP's answer lets make sure even less people vote. So capt re reg if people aren't voting then explain why you are so worried that someone might vote who isn't who they say they are, again hysteria, fear of something happening even though the chances of it are so low that it won't happen, but gosh darn it you know it will despite all evidence showing that it won't happen.
Whom...it NEVER happens?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p70YbRiPw
Regardless of the number of people who vote, it is possible that only 1 vote can cause the results to be changes. You might be willing to risk the future of our country on one person committing voter fraud I am not...
just saying...
Really capt re reg that ACORN pimp tape proves nothing, but it does set off your paranoid hysteria but that would be your problem not anyone elses. It doesn't prove that voter fraud happens all it proves is dishonest republicans tried to commit voter fraud.
Thanks for showing your stupidity again Whom by not even looking at the tape.
just saying..
stormguy,
you are using as "evidence" tapes by "project veritas". founded by james okeefe-THE PIMP IN THE TAINTED AND DECEPTIVE PLANNED PARENTHOOD VIDEO-you must know that their mission is to "investigate" and expose corruption, dis-honesty, fraud and other misconduct in public and private institution to achieve a more etical and transparent society. if james okeefe and andrew breitbart have to use deceit and trickery to "save the world" from corruption and fraud, then the tape i just viewed means nothing.
james okeefe and andrew breitbart and glenn beck are behind the shirley sherrod incident, where tainted tape misrepresented shirley sherrod because this is what james okeefe and andrew breitbart and glenn beck are all about.
the planned parenthood video by james okeefe who plays the pimp, is also tainted, and does represent what really happened.
james okeefe and andrew breitbart and glenn beck are not about achieving a more ethical and transparent society, they are about making and using UNETHICAL VIDEO, presenting it as truthful, and they are using it to bring democrats down. this is what right wing-nuts do.
project veritas is what you are basing your "facts" on.
project veritas is all about tainted, deceptive video. it is about trickery and deceit and lies.
OMFG.
not one republican has won the presidency without winning ohio. this is why the voting laws have been made so stringent since President Obama took office. this is why we have seen the increased talk of voter fraud, and the strictest of laws put in place, hoping the american people will buy into it, and not fight back.
repubs benefit from less people voting. why do the ID's have to be so special and difficult for SOME people to get?
you have proven nothing with your tainted video from the likes of james okeefe-project veritas. find more reliable sources to back up your claims of voter fraud.
project veritas-what a joke.
Did they walk in, pretend to be Holder and have the ballot offered to them or not? The video evidence shows that they did...it is up to you to prove that this video is not authentic.
You might not like their methods, but instead of attacking the process...try to defend the position.
The point is that it is a proven fact that if anyone can walk in and pretend to be one of the highest appointed governmental officials in the country and be offered his ballot to vote, then it can happen in a lot of other areas in this country.
Democrats...a bigger joke...
just saying...
Yes! And...those republican states' governors, senators, and representatives ALWAYS wonder WHY the citizenry appeals to the Federal Government, going above and beyond state authority.
(Republicans POV: "Damn, those meddlin' feds!" Why won't Uncle Sam stay out of our business, and let us get at the people the way we want to?!!)
Thank God for President Obama, AG Holder, Democrats in high places. :-)
Vote! A Straight Democrat Ticket 2012!
First the tape is doctored you don't know what was said in those "address censored portions" and with the history of James O'keefe's criminal prankster journalism which this is an example of since last I checked it's illegal to film in a polling place without any permission.......so forget that this is a crime....
even then you are aware there could be 100k Eric Holders in any one give area. That's why for example in florida thousands had their votes silenced because they were removed from rolls by coincidence. The florida officials would look and if "John Sullivan's" elligiblilty was an issue they would delete every "John Sullivan". Well there is more than one guy named John Sullivan it's not necesssarily even one person ad the state did not take any of that into account.
Not to mention photo id's can be faked it's actually an entire underground industry......then there's the fact that if you don't update you licenses that will cause you problems because you can register ad the move to a different area which would mean your addresses would not be listed as the same even though you are quite elligible.
To pull off in person voter fraud you'd need to know the names of all registered voters and find which ones would be most likely to not vote in person because you can't have two people.....no matter what one person can't cast two votes in person that would blow the scheme......even if there was photo id as I said you can fake that and it wouldn't be that much more trouble considering all the other effort it would take to pull this off. If one is that determined they'll find a way around that especially if they already went through all the trouble.
No one wants illegals to vote. People want real voters to not have to jump through a string of hoops all of a sudde to avoid the voter fraud that isn't happening. You wat to talk about one vote...well what about those hundreds of thousands of votes you are making it harder to be heard to stop that one vote....which do you think will really have the greater impact one or thousands.....
There is no voter fraud at polling places happening in any way to call it a crisis or to demand laws be changed now that make it harder for real citizens to vote. There is no crisis thus we do not eed these laws now. The fact that there is no real voter fraud epidemic out there means we have plenty of time to craft ways to protect voting that will not negatively affect thousands. If the GOP cares so much about everyone elligible voting why aren't they willing to even consider doing that?
Even in the grand scheme of things as long as the number of citizens doesn't exceed the number of votes it can't sway an election in any direction that could not be natural. If there are 500 citizens and 500 votes in the end it doesn't matter ultimately who cast them it won't be ay different if those folks cast the ballots themselves. If 100 of those 500 choose not to vote it will sway the election in the exact same way as this crazy fraud idea. Less voting sways an election just as much as this non-existent fraudlent voting. So in this quest to make it harder for hundreds of thousands to vote when those people don't show up to the polls as the GOP wants that also sways an election. Someone casting your vote illegally for you is no different that you choosing not to vote because you din't make YOUR voice heard. Two sides of the same sword. The right chooses to not think about that.
But don't worry the GOP voter laws will have their desired effect of reducing the number of votes cast and the tea party army of poorly trained poll watchers will make people who disagree with them uncomfortable as the right intends
Find me one race that was swayed by inperson voter fraud we have made tis assumption on both sides that voter fraud in this manner has the ability to sway elections right now....but since there are so few cases has the kind of real voter fraud ever made a difference? Problem is as we all know is that the amount of vote fraud is limited only by one's own imagination not reality.
You kow if there's so much voter fraud how do we know it did't sway the 2010 elections? If there is so much fraud out there in 2008 which was 4 years ago why would it not be possible 2 years ago? Oh yeah because the GOP won....the right is like the groundhog on voter fraud. When they pop up and see the "shadow" of voter fraud aka their defeat it's 6 more years of fraud but if they think they'll win suddenly the possibility of fraud disappears
CC...let me make sure I have this right...your defense is that in the voting district where Eric Holder, the Attorney General of the US, votes, there might be 100K people with the same name? Are you serious? That is the best you can come up with?
Oh wait...you have a better defense...it doesnt matter who votes as long as the number of votes doesnt exceed the number of citizens because it wont be any different if they cast the ballot themselves? Are you serious? Now there is a typical liberal moron for you...in one statement you want all legal citizens to vote and then in another you make this stupid statement.
One of the reasons that there is not a documented case of an election being swayed is because there is no procedure in place to prevent it from happening. How is anyone going to go back in after the fact and verify the results? Go around and ask every citizen if they voted and who they voted for?
We don;t know that those elections weren't swayed. That is why we have to make sure it doesnt happen EVER. I have stated many times that if the type of ID accepted for proof has to be changed in order for more people to vote, I am all for it.
I want every LEGAL citizen in this country to vote. If the citizenry is stupid enough to elect more Democrats to destroy this country...then so be it. I wont be happy with it, but that is what it will be and I will deal with.
just saying...
capt re reg I bet if you google your own name you will find that there is not just you with that name. Now you take popular names like John Smith there are thousands of John Smiths. So you are full of paranoid hysteria if you believe you can stop something that doesn't happen from happening. It is that paranoid hysteria that prevents you from understanding new forms of special ID's won't stop something from happening because that type of fraud it will prevent doesn't happen.
3 cheers for Judge Economus.....
BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!
Sorry, just checking to see that my horn works so I don't make roadkill out of all the trolls that are doubtless headed this way to try and kibosh this news.
Don't think it will help - they only hear and see what they want.
Karl Rove is getting a "3 AM" call.... Lee Atwater would not be pleased, Mr. Rove.
and i have been racking my brain to get around the "voter suppression" rules, laws, etc. ...... ohio is finally "free to do" ..... but what other states? ....
LET'S VOTE ... most important OBJECTIVE of november election is to elect the officials we want to represent us ...... IT IS ALL ABOUT THE CANDIDATES ....... the vote is not about our comfort level, etc. ...... the gop is determined to make it hard to vote and, hopefully, dems will just stay home and their candidates will not stand a chance .... let's get real ....... the suppressors CANNOT WIN ..... so let us beat them at their own game ..... everyone is entitled to an ABSENTEE BALLOT ...... an application for an absentee ballot may be automatically mailed ...... or voters might have to request an application ....... rather than expend all out energies to fight the hard-headed rule makers to get them to be tad more reasonable about their stands let's CHANGE TACTICS ...... make voting the social event of the season ...... let's form social circles to HELP EACH OTHER .... through filling out applications, postage to mail the application, and then have several social settings we can attend with our trusted ballots in hand ... we can sit down and have refreshments, conversation, etc. ..... most importantly we can get help from each other to complete papers correctly, apply proper postage, ....... LET'S HELP EACH OTHER get this very important vote out ....... through help with paperwork, postage costs, etc. ..... we can even set up committees to get to housebound american in their homes to offe help ....... 'souls to polls"??? ..... maybe not this year .. unfortunately ...... thanks to the new voter-suppression rules and laws ..... make this year "souls to vote" .... through other social events ..... my home can certainly be a place to come to for paperwork help and postage ...... or i can come to you and you can either turn your completed ballot over to the U.S. Mail or some pre-determined trusted individual OR election board/official .... DO NOT LET THE NEW RULES STOP YOU IN YOUR TRACKS TO VOTE FOR YOUR CANDIDATE .......
FLOOD THE U.S. MAIL WITH YOUR CHOICES
In Missouri, I can go the county court house and vote early. I have approximately a month to do this in. Voter ID is required. ID can be driver's licsense, school ID, Pay stub with name AND address on it, utility bill with name and address. There are a few more ID that also count.
Absentee ballots have to be notorized unless you are on the permanently disabled list. In the small town I live in, the elections officer will bring a ballot to your car if you are elderly or disabled to cast your vote.
MIssouri is backwards in a lot of ways and attitudes but at least it is fairly easy to vote.
I can't use my pay stub because it only has my first name. Work in a small restaurant with, maybe 20 other people.
Voting laws that sound and look harmless and inocuous enough are suppressive and racist because they target poor people, blacks some white people and Hispanics that live in rural areas far from department of motor vehicle offices, they have to drive or get there somehow and then pay to get those voter IDs! That, my friend amounts to a poll tax! Poll taxes were outlawed in the 1964 voting rights act. Many of these people cannot afford even the five or ten or twenty dollars to pay, much less the fare they need to pay to get to the offices where they are required to get the ID's! These republican tyrants knew exactly what they were doing! They were trying to steal the election for Romney, but they got busted trying to do so!
The despicable republican scheme to suppress the vote is slowly unraveling! It is being shredded to pieces by honest judges that saw through the republican sinister attempt to block voters from exercising their right to vote!!
The republicans wanted to steal the election by reviving the anti-voter Jim Crow laws! Their bogus and fraudulent claims of voter fraud have been exposed for what they are, and are hopefully being put to sleep! The republicans can't win on the issues, so they resort to lying, cheating and stealing to try and win!
Americans have become aware of their chicanery and deceit, and now know just how low they are willing to sink to gain the upper hand!
We must all remain ever vigilant to ensure that no one ever again tries to resort to these disgusting tactics to try and steal elections!
Obama Biden 2012!!!
ohio's dewine to appeal?? not surprised ... just more gop bullying tactics at work ....... probably has nothing more important to do but follow his leader's (and his personal) demands to alienate voters so that gop (Guardian Of Privilege) can continue to cow the american voter
The real disgusting thing is that the republicans had even boasted about passing these voter suppression laws to ensure that Romney won their republican state!
That is treasonous at best, someone should be facing serious prison time for attempting such nonsense! That is a felony and against the voting rights act of 1964!
I hope these jackals are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!
Especially Rick Perry and his republican cohorts in Texas that passed these disgusting laws! People died to ensure that our freedoms were respected!
At least he has something to say. More than anybody can say for you. I'm glad we know you are all for voter supression laws. Laws that only allow a certain people to vote. Has NOTHING to do with fraud. The GOP is the only fraud. They even boasted about "voter supression assuring them a win." But hell, why let a few little facts get in your way. Continue with your right wing BS.
You are right Larry...it is terrible that we only want the a person who is a legal citizen that is properly registered to vote. Republicans are just horrible that way...we should be more like you Democrats who simply want to buy off all your voters with giveaways regardless of whether they are even a citizen of this country.
just saying...
Just lying again.
Too bad you have to have Id to vote so much for facts oh yeah I forgot you guys were done being accountable to those things
lets see how much voter fraud is there tell us and then explain why you think you can get anyone with half a brain to believe it is a giant current problem. Thing about you people and your voter fraud fantasy is that the amount of fraud is limited by one's imagination not reality.
So dems want a system where there's virtually no voter fraud that doesn't make it harder for anyone to vote
the GOP wants a system with virtually no fraud which will make it much tougher to vote despite the lack of actual fraud......
which side wants to expand the franchise of american liberty....I'll give you a hint it isn't the GOP
The system now that one we have or had in some places you're more likely to be killed with a coconut that find voter fraud....not an exaggeration
CC....you might be right about your town, but you are not right about LOTS of other areas in the country. In my city/state...there is no requirement to show ID of any sort on the day of an election when you walk into a polling location. Simply walk in, give a name and address and if it matches up, you can vote.
For Example,,,,if I knew that my brother-in-law, who lives in another town, was going to be out of town for an election day and I knew that he had not participated in early voting, I could drive over to his polling station, walk in, give his information and then be able to vote. NO ID REQUIRED
Give me a system that everyone can vote and there is no fraud...I am 100% for it. The Democrats want to expand this "franchise" to people who are not legal citizens.
Considering that one vote can change an entire election...I don't want to find out after the fact that it happened.
just saying..
Show where that happens capt re reg, I bet you just made it up your little story to reenforce your belief that voter fraud is rampant, despite there is no evidence of it happening. Another words capt re reg you are suffering from paranoid hysterics over a thing that doesn't exist. Really capt re reg what you are trying to do is justify making a law to stop a problem that isn't a problem because there is no reason for anyone to vote as someone else.
windbag,
so lets disenfranchise "legal" voters, thousands of them, so that "one" voter fraud doesn't happen.
democrats want legal voting for everyone who is legal.
repubs are trying to kill a fly with a bomb, and they don't care if thousands of legal voters are ALSO KEPT FROM VOTING.
THIS IS INTENTIONAL, of course, because they want to win this election.
No proof whatsoever of voter fraud in Penn. It cost millions to implement the new voter suppression laws. And you call yourselves 'CONservatives"???
"Voter suppression laws that will guarantee a win for Romney in Penn...DONE"!
Thats all the proof you need Stormtrooper.
Indeed, voter fraud....not a problem before these new laws in the first place.
The Republicans don't care about voting they care about winning and thus have no problem with making one's constitutional right more difficult to excersize for hundred of thousands. One for thousands? Madness GOP, have the righties thought any of this through?
I agree with this as well however I find it sad that the right thinks it's crazy we even have to make that clear. It should be assumed.....
Both sides support legal voting from legal voters only, not negotiable for anyone and rightfully so. The thing is that the left would like to see legally vote. The right does as well the difference is that the GOP wants to make it harder for groups who most often vote against them to vote legalling uder the guise of voter fraud.
A brilliant comparison actually on several levels if you think about it......I have long said that I and know one out there has the ultimate answers to protect voting. I don't and frankly no one else does either however that doesn't matter much because what fraud there is statistically is miniscule. We need not rush into anything. There is no real fraud crisis I don't care if anyone thinks it might be easy...this isn't "what if.." world, this is reality and reality is that there is practically no voter fraud. I don't have the answers but since we've got no fraud we can afford to do this the right way by putting our heads together. The right refuses to consider this.
There's no fraud before why would there be an explosion in fraud now? Why do we need them right now?
It's like when Governor Voldemort Scott was doing his little illegal purge who's goal I supported and still do support its larger goals, illegals can not be given illegal voting rights. But as we all remember the problem was that they did things wrong. They had real citizens on their list who had they never received or responded to notice they would be taken off the list. The right which has no real comprehension on much of the law doesn't get that. It doesn't matter whether they didn't reply you can't take away their vote for that if they are legal. Then they started too late and wanted to blame Obama. Then like now it is about doing things the right way.
You are more likely to be struck dead by a coconut than find voter fraud. Not a joke, totally true...crazy but true
The right refuses to admit that the hundreds of thousands of people who will have a harder time voting and will not vote scews an election just as much as any fraud can.
There wasn't any evidence of fraud in Indiana either and the US Supreme COurt upheld their Voter ID law by a 6-3 vote.
just saying...
The patriot act is also legal as is obamacare which we all know you have different feelings about. Just because it's legal doesn't make it right and in reality no one said it was unconstitutional just very pathetic and sleazy. Also federal courts have struck voting laws in other states like Texas and South Carolina and portions of Florida's law on the issues down so from a legal perspective this isn't exactly 100% decided yet.....but that's really not that important because the legality of such measures is not the point.
In Michigan they can have the governor appoint a financial manager who only answers to the governor to a city the governor declares in financial crisis......might be legal but that doesn't make it smart policy.
I'd like to see you address the idea that in trying to block a tiny number of potentially fraudulent votes even statistically there is nothing to suggest there is a serious national or state wide in place voter fraud crisis you are also blocking hundreds of thousands of legal potential votes. Address instead of trying to deflect.
Not a one of the other people has had their vote blocked. They all have the opportunity to get the proper ID before the election. I had to get a valid ID in order to buy my guns which are a constitutional right...they can go get a valid ID in order to vote.
There are MILLIONS of people who it has been harder for them it buy a gun because of the requirement of an ID.
Whatever is good for one, is good for the other...
that sure seems "fair" to me...
just saying...
Stormguy', if there is nothing to decide what do judges, judge?
God forbid our sons and daughters in the Military deployed overseas at the Direction of the President, be given consideration beyond that of a citizen that is sitting at home when it comes to voting. I am sure many if not all of them would rather be home for the election, but Obama has clearly demonstrated that will not happen. Why hasn't Obama brought our troops home from Afghanistan? Over the past two years OBL was killed as were over 1,000 US Troops in Afghanistan. So much for Obama's promise to end the War. Obama's War in Afghanistan needs to end now. Like that sad and pathetic man said last night, "Why set a time line for withdraw, why not bring them home tomorrow? How many more solders will Obama kill before he understands there is no mission in Afghanistan?
ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
Obama did not take away rights of Military to vote early he just made sure everyone else including veterans had the same rights, as they all did in 2008. Obama did not start the war but he is trying to end it with the least amount of harm to the Afghanistan people as possible, as the war was not the fault of civilians in that country and they should not have to suffer any more than they already have.
Diana, You are right to a degree, Obama didn't start the War. President Bush and Congress started the War. Bush has been out of office for nearly four years. The War stopped being Bush's War and became Obama's in January 2009. More US solders have been killed since Obama became President that in the previous years under the Bush Administration.
OBL has been dead for a year. Why are we still in Afghanistan? What is our mission? What is Obama's objective there? The War was started to Kill OBL and those responsible for 9/11. Why does it continue? How many more US solders have to die? Why don't you ask the President these questions? Why don't you demand an end to the War? Why do you support Obama on this issue? Obama's War in Afghanistan must end NOW.
Well the GOP opposes Obama's timeline for Afghanistan because it's too fast so perhaps you're ranting to a mirror............no one's voting right are changed the military already has that same voting right they always have.
Cynical, The GOP opposed Obamacare too, that didn't stop the Democrats from shoving it down our throats., BesidesI could careless about what the Republicans think or want. Obama's War in Afghanistan has no purpose, no mission, and it needs to end NOW.
And it is ending in spite of your beloved republicans and faux libertarians
might be easier if the GOP would just stop getting in the way
And how many more solders will Obama kill?
Your questions about Afghanistan should be directed at Bush/Cheney. WHY are we there in the first place? Now the rethugs are saber rattling about starting another war !! GOOD LORD ! Bring our troops home from Afghanistan and leave them at home in the USA , helping here , doing what is needed. Anyone considering a vote that protects our military members needs to understand that the rethug party, lyin ryan and robme will have us in another war within a year. Bring our troops home and leave them home! If you were listening to McCain, he was slinging out threats to an already unstable Iran!
I certainly hope that when all of this is done, those two elections officials who got fired will be reinstated with back pay and interest. I believe the Department of Justice handles the specifics of labor laws - and this would definitely be a situation of wrongful termination.
What a week for democracy!
We don't live in a "Democracy"!
This is a the USA is in fact a "Federal presidential constitutional republic,
Two-party system"
Dummy, our Government is run as a republic. We vote our leaders in office by a DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM where 51% beats 49%. The more you 'baggers post the more ignorant you get.
Read what I posted. "Federal presidential constitutional republic".
Moo Moo! M-oo?
You don't read and think about half the stupid things you post so I don't know why you expect anyone else to mos-cow
But back to the point it's a form of democracy as opposed to another form like authoritarian, or the theocracy the tea party wants to turn us into......
CC: The uber rich puppet masters are just using this as another tool to an end of their means. And once they have been used they too will under the heel of their expensive shoes. But you can't expect a bunch of fools who fail to even see anything even they can't or won't have 20/20 hindsight! (BUSH YEARS)
Liberals, vote early and vote often.
moocows are not allowed to vote.
You ought to at least get the historical context right on that one if you're going to pilfer it, poop producer... It dates to the the 1960's Chicago-era with Mayor Daley, and it spoke to Democrats as a whole.
Back then there were plenty of liberals in the Republican Party and plenty of conservatives in the Democratic Party...
The 1st year I voted was 1968, remember the democrats in Chicago, beating people, teargas, etc.
Them were the days.
and through it all 'ho' you haven't learned a thing...
Learn at lot, one thing is Democrats will do what ever it takes to get votes.
In 68' they just went out and beat on dudes for having long hair. In some parts of the country the Democrats beat you due to the color of your skin.
Now they try to hide all that nastiness.
The GOP took over at the end of 68, Nixon and gov of California Ronald Reagan were beating up more hippies than any Dems. Utube Joan Baez and Jeffrey Shutleff at Woodstock. "Drug Store Truck Driving man." If your talking about "The Chicago Seven," then get your facts straight.
OH Listen To You - Udders --- You ALL Twist-Spin-Duck and Dodge - and Spew ALL of the Very CRAP That YOU-ALL Do onto the the Other Side of the Isle ..... GOOFBALLS .......Shut-Up....
Another dry milk day eh..
Yep -- Hey xo - These GOMERS Sure are some Ignorant Ba$$-Turds - hey !!!!
Better go read your history. Chicgco than as today is a demcrat town. The mayor ole daily was as crocked as a dog's hinde leg.
They gaged and tied Bobby Seale to a chair in the court room.
The eight in fact where Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, David Dillinger, Tom Hayden, Rennie Davis, John Froines, Lee Wiener and Bobby Seale.
Look out cattle crossing! Poop!
Time for a roundup! Rope um and brand um with a double R.
In NOvember its time to take um to the big barn in the sky!
John Glenn couldn't have said it better being from Ohio. One small step for voters rights! One giant leap to get Obama re-elected! Semper Fi
Now we will hear the same repeated
quoteslies since the RNC is mercifully over..I guess the judges timing was such that voters rights couldn't be overridden again in time for elections. After the Elections it can really get sorted out. Thanks, God.
YEP! Ha ha ha ha!
Oh Sarah Oh Michele OMG!
When Clint was babbling to the chair he asked "What can't Romney do, He can't do that" I was thinking it was SHOW HIS TAX RETURNS!
Democracy - what Democrats seeks is winning. Voter Suppression- what Republicans like is loosing. That's right thing to happen. Real democracy what Americans believe is happening .
Dam straight! Sen!
Poor Repugs and billionaires wasted all their time and money trying to block the vote. I can't blame them when they have a candidate like Mittens.
Texas got shut down too, so now they want to take it to the Supreme Court. With all the Reps on it, they may get voter ID restored, but I hope not. Fla got some good news on hours or days they can accept votes.
Ed Shultz you really did it to Paul Ryan " The compulsive lier" in bringing the 2 employees from that GM. plant to tell the truth and put Ryan lier in his place. Don't worry, day by day people will catch this guy (Ryan)lie, by lie. I don't why are people in this country still believe in Mitt-Ryan ticket. Boy, they hate the President so much that they will vote for this 2. Is insane,remember Santorum: the blah, shameful.
I remember during Bushes Iraq war recruiters going to my son's high school registering young students . When my son came of a certain age I had to take him to the US post office to register him for i guess what they called a voluntary draft.It was the law. Now if you feel fine to send an eighteen year old young person to fight in a senseless never should have happened war to die or be maimed or just forever scarred by the brutality of war, this is my question. why cannot they vote with a student ID. or the previous way they did during the time of Bush or even the last election. Now Romeny is talking like he would recommend a war with Iraq , and put Russian in their place. The young people they will be sending to this war will be the very American youth that was denied their right to vote.
To those deniers that the republicans are suppressing the vote, this little known: fact, I know, I know, facts always seem to stand in the way of republicans, anyway, there have been 10, that's ten, X, read them, only ten documented cases of voter fraud since 2000,... and that's NATIONWIDE!!!
That being said, there have been 1500, documeted cases of coconut injuries each and every year, yet I don't see any republicans going out of their way to outlaw coconuts or to prevent them from growing by cutting down coconut trees!
roman...how many votes does it take to change an election's results? ONE. The entire future and direction of our country can change on 1 vote. And you are willing to take a chance with that?
Not me..
I am surprised the Democrats haven't created legislation requiring all Americans to by coconut insurance...oh wait...they did...its called Obamacare.
just saying...
Republican know all about voter fraud because they commit it all the times.
Republicans want to justify passing their voter suppression laws by trying to make a reasonal argument and case that they believe no one will dispute, and that is the notion that you have to present ID's whenever you go to the airport or that you need one to drive, and so on, that you need one to vote! Sounds reasonal enough doesn't it? However our voting right is a constitutional right, that's a far cry from needing an ID to drive. that is not a constitutional right! That is merely warped reasoning! People have died to ensure that we are guaranteed our right to cast our vote, and people haven't died to ensure that our driving previledge is preserved! Those are state requirements that have nothing to do with our constitutional voting rights!
The Republican voter suppression laws are meant to keep minorities from voting and are racist! Texas' voting laws were just struck down on those grounds! These laws were meant to keep the poor, blacks and Hispanics from voting because they tend to vote democratic , so stopping the tide was a republican priority because they know they can't win with their antiquated ideology!
Roman -It wasn't just ID's. It was new ID's that would be difficult to get in time for the election. Hawaii just started this year with reissuing drivers' licenses. When you go to renew, you have to bring a valid birth certificate and social security card , or valid current passport or some other form of ID. This was done under the Patriot Act (remember that). It was not a voter suppression idea. As I understand it, all states were supposed to do this years ago, but few have. With this form of ID the republicans would have no legal way to suppress the vote. Everyone would (and should) have an ID like this.
Roman...I guess you are in favor of the ppor, elderly and minorities that you refer to being able to walk into any gun shop and buy whatever weapon they want without any form of ID also...because that is their constitutional right also.
just saying...
Really capt re reg except voting is not the same as buying a firearm. I never heard of a criminal being charged with using deadly force because he was registered to vote. Really capt re reg you should seek professional help for your paranoid hysterics. What capt re reg want a law that to buy coconuts you must provide an ID because someone might beat you to death with a coconut. That is what your whole paranoid hysterics amount to, because you are scared someone might vote claiming he is Micky Mouse.
You won the battle but will win the war. Get rid of all you socialist. Then have voter suppression. Best for the country. Must have Federal ID card to Vote.
Hopefully, not even the Deomcrat poll workers are stupid enough to let MIckey Mouse vote...but then again, they are Democrats so there is no telling what they might do.
just saying...
Another words the tea bagged republican trolls show just how far they are willing to go to clam their paranoid hysterics and in the process give the government more power over their lives. How do dictatorships work, why they make everyone in the country carry ID.
And a HUGE thank you to the Ed show, Rachel Maddow, Hardball Chris Matthews , Al Sharpton and Lawrence O'donnell for bringing these voter suppression laws to forefront and attention of the whole nation. ALEC group and rethugs were thinking they could walk these laws through, quietly pass them and it would be too late to protect the presidential election. The plan from ALEC group and rethugs was to STEAL this election. Keep up the coverage and the pressure. Expose the lies from ryan and robme. By the way , where is the mayor of Janeville? Is he rethug or is he too concerned for his re-election chances to tell the truth to the nation? And once again, I ask, WHO votes for lyin Ryan.
Deluded Republicans, Pea-partiers, and corporate CEOs. His base.
The GOP/ALEC corporatist gangsters are only interested in power not helping the country. I regard the GOP as the party of Al Capone. Look at what Governor Kasich tried to do in Ohio with limiting the number of days of voting despite the fact that in 2008 these extra voting days worked well after Ohio's 2004 voting fiasco of long lines and delays. These Voter ID laws are a complete farce. These states that passed Voter ID laws did not have any documented cases to support the creation of Voter ID laws. Plus the people at ALEC were really not very bright. If they had actually read the case law surrounding the 1965 Voter's Rights Act they would have realized that these laws that changed the electoral process in these states would not stand up to a federal court challenge.
Here is the good news: the GOP has pretty much written off Pennsylvania. Karl Rover's Super-PAC and others are not spending money their anymore. Ohio has had its voting restrictions overturned in federal court. So Ohio's election looks like it will be fair with extended voting hours on weekends for blacks who typically vote en mass after church on Sunday. So if President Obama can squeak by in Ohio and win Pennsylvania, and pick up Iowa or Colorado or Virginia, what happens in Florida won't really matter that much. President Obama will be over 270 electoral votes. This Ohio federal court case was a huge deal for voter turnout. President Obama must campaign hard and the money difference is a concern but what I am more concerned about are the Congressional and Senate races. We need solid Democratic majorities for President Obama's second term. Then we can start turning this country around again.