Poll: Which party is playing the race card?
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:41 PM EDT
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Its the WHOLE GOP! They will lie about what they are doing and point the finger at the Democrats! Same sh!t different day!
Never tell a lie, Republicans lie and play the race card, then say no, not me.
Definitely Not the Obama Campaign -- Gee-Whizz - Just Who Would That Leave - The gop-neo-con-Nazi's -- That's WHO .......................The Anti-Americans - The Ones That Want to Destroy America - All For Their Own Personal Gains and PROFIT ............The 4th Reich Clown Brigade .................
What surprises me is that in a country of laws why we don't have a way to stop such lies ???? Why we are not changing that ?
I agree that GOP, "Gross Over Party" with head wilford and kid boy Ryan ale all fake and liers! Ever since Nixon they had those hit men who speak for those republats! That includes hateful Hannity, Fat boy limbo and now Donney the truped boy join them.
All the RepubliCONS do is lie. They have no ideal what the truth is.
Rmoney and Ryan are a joke, and that is not a lie.
I haven't heard PBO mention racism or talking or pandering just to the emotions of one group. Republicans are the ones who continue doing things that will hurt Americans by pandering to those who are prejudiced. I am a white person and I have seen how the GOP has insulted those civil servants who are sympathetic to others. They have even used children.
& Hailey Barbour, the governor who used Eminent domain to take away oil filled lands that belong to blacks. I know a family who lost their land to eminent domain because there was oil in it and Barbour (not proven yet) took bribes and bribed the courts to fail against the owners of the land and in favor of the oil company.
Well let's see if anyone disagrees with barry or says his policies are wrong for country they are a racist. Seems to me the dems have been playing the race card since he first got into the presidential race (no pun intended).
Why can't you just accept that people with different views or opinions are not racist and really don't care if he is white, black yellow or purple. His policies have been very bad for the country and we think it is time for a change.
Afrommi, the Republicans are doing the same thing in certain cities in Florida. Communities are being wiped out by the Republicans for their friends, the developers. The greed is unbelievable. They are even allowing private institutions to eminent domain property in the black community. I am so disgusted with the Republican Party. They are trying to take us back to the "Black Codes."
Hey, so I saw that this poll was going to go up and I thought to myself, why is a show on msnbc asking its viewers anything about what they believe? I mean Ed goes around calling women @!$%#s it's obvious that everyone who watches him believes the same and therefor will think that the RepubliCON or as some of our other talk show hosts call them "the stupid party." Like really Ed, are you thick to believe that Republicans won't be voted as playing the race card. All despite the fact that our incumbent is a African American?
Then If the eminent domain is rampant among Republican contrlled states then we can be sure Trump is involved. He was responsible in New York for leaving a lot of poor people homeless. Through eminent domain he bought land at pennies on the dollar from the city and built these luxury apartments. He got rich with all those. Watch the documentary "the 1%" towards the end they mention how the wealthy is buying from the government land that belongs or where the poor lives.
Republicats of course! Republicats are not allwing people in the convention hall many items like umbrellas, and even GUNS! OMG, not guns in Republicat's own hand? How can be second amendments be violated by patriotic (so called) ?
Hi, Maude!
Let's not forget the "emergency management law" in MI steeling properties for the r/tp former Fux "News" contributor......Gov. Kasich's friends such as Westinghouse for it's first move under the new "law" against a City.....the Citizen victims are predominately black.
BTW, Westinghouse exported the jobs that supported that community long ago along with a plant in MO. So much for giving back to the communities that made you wealthy......not leaving with the ones that brought you to the dance. Disgraceful......to be polite <shaking head>
Oops, sorry. Wrong room. I was looking for intelligence.
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Yep. I was right.
How about an intelligent, on-topic comment from you, Rust?
BTW, you haven't been missed.*
The whole GOP is looking too! No luck yet! That explains the ticket!
Rusty I can tell you where to find some. Get in your car and drive north 10 miles then drive 5 miles east then drive 5 miles west. Don't forget to bring a map!
RE: @Sen-3132419, (Comment #1.3)
There is a way to stop it, but that would require Congress to pass and the President to sign a Campaign Reform bill that every political ad have a mandatory truth-in-advertizing prologue as a PSA:
Given how frequently politicians get away with lying in positive ads about themselves or negative ads about the opponent. the only politicians who would approve such legislation would be those who don't lie and also don't approve of others lying on their behalf.
If we had a Congress that would pass such legislation, we'd also have a Congress with a significant majority of members more interested in solving America's problems than in getting reelected. Nor would the minority Party in the Senate allow their Leader abuse the filibuster as a way of making the Minority Party the ruling Party of the Senate, much less give Party Politics a higher priority than the good of the Country.
RE: @UnReal-3093585, (comment #1.7)
Your accusation is false. As a matter of fact, Cornell West has taken Obama to task for not promoting pro-Black legislation, which Obama refuses to do because he's President of the United States of America, not just for the Black Citizens of America.
Obama has not been able to get many of his policies enacted because of Obstructionist Elephants in Congress who can't or won't remember that Supply-Side Trickle-Down Economics hasn't ever worked, starting with Reagan in 1981. We have 30 years of demonstrable proof that what the GOP said would trickled down has at best only trickled up - at worst, flooded up. Moreover, deregulating Wall Street all but guaranteed that the same financial shenanigans that caused the Great Depression would again do grave damage to the Global Economy.
To @All:
For all that Obama had never been a Businessman, he understands very well that concentrating more wealth amongst the richest 2%, as the GOP wants to do much more of, will not lead to any kind of economic recovery or job creation until the Middle Class and Working Poor have enough extra income to drive demand. But, the GOP wants to squeeze what little income the Middle Class and Working Poor still have and give it to the very rich so that they'll have yet more money that they can't do anything productive with.
The biggest problem that we currently have with too much government spending is that most of it has been diverted, through far too many loopholes, to make Big Business Owners richer without doing anything productive to earn the tax breaks.
And, while racism may not be as blatantly widespread as it used to be, there is still a very serious problem with Racialism (def.: a theory that race determines human traits and capacities), which can be "kinder and gentler" than Racism, but, at it's worst, Racialism is Racism.
Thus, as much as Obama may have intended to be a post-racial, post-partisan President, socio-political forces in Congress, the RNC, the TEA Party, and the PR/Propaganda arm of the Republican Party, as demonstrated by the likes of Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, and the rest of that ilk, has encouraged a socio-political slide from mere Racialism back towards overt Racism as demonstrated by the Birther Conspiracy, epithets such as "Food Stamp President" (even if that was more true of Bush-43 than of Obama).
More recently, this past Friday, when the Romneys had a speaking engagement at their original hometown in Michigan, Mitt alluded to the Birther Conspiracy when he stated that no on had to ask him for his birth certificate because everyone knew where he came from, first his campaign, then Mitt claimed it was merely humor. As someone noted on another msnbc program prior to the Ed Show, "Audiences are supposed to laugh at humor, but this audience was cheering." Obviously, no one told that audience they were supposed to laugh at Mitt's extremely misguided attempt at humor. Thus, Obama, his campaign, pro-Obama voters, as well as objective observers, are entirely justified in stipulating that Romney was pandering to his Base and trying to inject doubt about Obama being a citizen amongst the Undecideds.
[I first read the following bit of political humor in the Aug 27, 2012 edition of Albuquerque Journal, but the quote is from it's primary source under Today's Columns, so it will soon be under Recent Columns:
http://www.argushamilton.com/argus.htm
The sick justification for all of this unjustifiable BS is to convince the Undecideds that Obama is somehow not American, not a Christian, but somehow an Un-American other who is the Manchurian Mole to promote Islamic Jihad or European-style Socialism.
Kathe- the fact that there were zero intelligent responses above, but to a completely illogical and stupid question, probably should have drawn your ire before my response. If intelligent responses were important to you, in fact- I was going to pick one out just as an example- but you could select almost anyone of them and fail to find intelligence.
Romney states the President's black ace
Has been played to shore up his base...
He'd gut "Welfare For Work"
To attract those who shirk -
Mitt's lies prove the Right's the Wrong place...
well repuke was a choice here, but my vote is THE AMERICAN TALIBAN AND 2012 KKK PARTY. NO IF'S AND OR BUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow...
The poll started at 7:41... I posted this limerick at 7:42...
I MUST be good!
yes David you are good.
shortly after that the trolls show up with their hatred and racism.
The Right claims the Left plays the race card
Proves they can't face their own canard...
Their minds are so closed,
Their bigotry's exposed,
They can't stand their own faults have starred...
@David
I am - as always - impressed by your limericks and recognize my complete inability to do that.
However, #2.4 made me think of "Hoist with your own petard".
Could you work that in?
Thanks
The Right hates how demogaphs shifted
So minority populations have lifted...
They'd rather have Whites
Remain at the heights,
Can't admit some minority's gifted...
What is the count on this race, David. How many have you written?
Maphi...
Goes to show, I don't always come up with the best line...
The Right claims the Left plays the race card
Proves they can't face their own canard...
Their minds are so closed,
Their bigotry's exposed,
Now, they're hoisted by their own petard...
Excellent!
TMom...
Hmm... I never bothered counting before...
Not including limericks addressed to trolls or others on the blog... 256...
@David
Very well done.
The republican pary is playing the race card. Then they try to blame it on
someone else. The fact that Obama is in Office kills them.
You got that right! And the cards the GOP are holding are three KKKs! And I'm not bluffing! And according to the last poll he's got nothing in spades!
His policies kill us along with pelosi and reid, time for a change and that is all there is to it.
You folks are real good at calling Republicans nazis and abuse Mitt Romney based upon his religion, so who is the racist here.
Look in the mirror....
Un real, maybe you should take the look in the mirror. They have been trying to save you. Look agin it is the gop that is killing this country.
so unreal - how about ME - I tar all of them with the same brush. Makes no DIFFERENCE which mythical sky daddy they supplicate towards. I rate them ALL in the "deluded" category
Hi, TM & xxx!!
The the republi-cons are playing the race card.....there's no question about that.
Yes, there are racists and "card players" of every political ilk, IMO....so I'm getting that issue out of the way.....okay, trolls? It seems more and more that the leaders of the "right" and their minions are really showing their true colors and using dog whistles (a type of "race card") up their sleeves.
Willard is their "leader", as stated by Senate minority *leader* Mc-*Con*-nel, and we know that Willard comes from a historically, racist cult origanally called Mormon and still is besides LDS for short. And again, I will clarify that all Mormons *are not* racist.
When Willard stated that he pulled the car over and cried when he heard that the LDS had terminated the ban that black people could serve in the temple, he failed to finish the statement with "why". Even if he were to answer to his reason for his reaction, he's such a big, damn phony and liar, he can't be believed.....might turn his base-"base" off.....what a coward.
Hi Kathe: It seems as if the whole GOP got the memo to ex-nay on the things they really stand for, except Todd Akin and maybe Tom Smith with his statement about have an abortion is like having a baby out of wedlock! Wow they really are coming out of the woodwork! So where does Rove stand on this? No fake outrage? Or is it Okay? I guess they are waiting to what the people poll on this. So if your in Pennsylvania you may be getting a poll call on this.
@Kathe/Tacoma
I agree but they are being very manipulative by defining the argument, they they always successfully ague that you started the fight or are guilty of the very thing that they did. This is fighting like a drug addict, they will frequently make you feel 'guilty' because you did not cough up the money for their drugs. Joy Behar came up with this analogy first.
Definitely
Definitely Repubs are playing the race card. Starting with the President Obama the repubs 's race card game is incomprehensible by the majority of the American people. They want to bring back America to the days of slavery and majority of Americans are against that. Vote for Democrats in November 2012.
they hated him from the start , republicans blocked everything. thats why nothing has gotten done. they tried to make him look bad, shame on them , they dont have the people in mind .
That is the truth every time President Obama has tried to pass laws that could benefit this Country the IDIOTS well known as Republicans have placed a roadblock. America does not need a LIAR in the White House and America does not need MitT Romney. we are fed up with all the lies that he has dished out. I guess He wants to follow in the footsteps of George W. Bush who lied to the american people for 8 straight Years even to the point of having a Republican write about it in a book.
In agreeance with you, Frank.....r money, will never darken the door (pun intended)
@Sen
Remember during the 2008 race when they tried to define Obama as an arugula eating elitist? Yeah I'm so sure. Nobody bought it then and I certainly hope it backfires again this time.
And as I have stated many times on this board in last springs Republican Caucus they demanded ID and almost a third of registered republicans were turned away due to the fact that they did not have proper ID or it had expired... So hopefully all that effort will backfire too...
rethuglicans are playing the race card pure and simple!!!
it's neither PURE nor SIMPLE - but it IS about RACE
well not only are they playing the race card, they are also blowing dog whistle for the ones who are having a hard time hearing.
Indeed lie and scare the old folks! What is the Romney plan anyway? Where is it? Hiding with his taxes?
that's his plan its about his taxes. and how to not pay them.
Definitely Republican party is playing the Race Card. Starting with the President Obama their racist remarks are incomprehensible. This Repubs is a party of
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/27/1124892/-GOP-Racism-Boehner-Says-Out-Loud-He-Hopes-Blacks-and-Latinos-Won-t-Show-Up-This-Election
Surprise, Surprise!
For all doubters that the GOP is not a racist party (despite evidence to the contrary):
Update:
The writer of the original piece has corrected the headline, but Boehner still shows considerable apathy towards Blacks and Latinos:
House Speaker John Boehner is the most prominent Republican to admit, out loud, that his party's strategy for winning in November isn't looking for ways that the GOP can win over some black and Latino voters; rather, it is betting they won't vote at all.
funny (not haha though) they seem to have been caught in their own web in Florida - many of the "latin surnames" they want to eliminate from the rolls are Cuban RETHUG VOTERS
Republicans! Welfare, Obama's birth certificate have become the rhetoric of the GOP. How come nobody has ask for Romney birth certificate, maybe he was born in Mexico like his father.
i don't give a darn about romney's birth certificate, i want to see the tax returns so we can put his rich ass in jail!
nah Djiifa, he was hatched so no birth certificate made.
you're right xeptdx, he'll never disclose, and repubs will circle the wagons to protect his rich ass.
Romney has posted his Birth Certificate.
Small problem, Donald Trump went on and on and on about how President Obama's was a "Certificate of Live Birth" with is NOT a "Birth Certificate".
What does Mitt Romney's say .......... "Certificate of Live Birth". {silence from Trump}
anti christ was not born he was hatched.
I don't give a damn about Rmoney birth certificate, but where is his tax returns? What is he hiding? Crook !!!!!!!!
Hi, everybody!
For me it's not so much about finding out if Willard cheated on his taxes. It has more to do with rate and how that was arrived at......could be the perfect template for mostly tax reform for personal income tax deductions and the corporate too......highlight every damn one that only the very wealthy get and make informed decisions about what to delete from the tax code.
Fair share is what the American People deserve and tax code revisions would go a long way as part of the solutions needed to get the deficit and debt under control in 10 of so years. And the RobUS/Ruin plan is running against the "fair share" concept. For heaven's sake, their platform is "Let's do a Bush Jr. on steroids! Hooray!!". We can't afford the indulgences the wealthy want for themselves and want to dump on the backs of those on Main Street.....we just can't do it.
Why isn't the tea party behind this......Grover? Hmmmm? Only crickets and the insane chants from the fringe "right".
the race card is the only card racist bigots can play. and the teapublican party has the highest concentration of racist bigots since the german national socialist party.
Sadly the GOP has become the "skinheads" party run by casino mob bosses,oil tycoons,and all other shady characters.
no offense diane - but repeating the identical comment is called "comment spamming" You can be reported for it SO KNOCK IT OFF
True... Reading the same comment four times in the first ten posts is redundant, annoying and UNNECSSARY...
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The Republicans have been playing the race card since Dukakis and the Willie Horton ad....if not before that. Those of us old enough to remember have seen it election after election...as well s the Republican effort to then deny it by shifting the blame to the Democrats.
Too bad for Romney. When he was Governor in MA he sent a letter asking to use states pertaining to the "welfare for work" now he uses it against the President
The republicans are definitely playing the race card. They would love to get the progressives screaming mad about race. For some reason there is nothing that works better to galvanize undecided white voters.
Most DEFINITELY the Republicans--racial encoding at every turn.
http://thyblackman.com/2012/08/23/gop-mitt-romney-gets-zero-percent-of-the-black-vote-and/
The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal presidential poll is a lightening rod for race relations revealing President Obama captures 94 percent of the Black vote. Mitt Romney, zero. Of course there are Black Republicans and of course they will probably vote for Mitt Romney: Herman Cain, Michael Steele and Mia Love, Allen West. But what’s the most telling about this poll is not the President’s lead among the people with whom on the surface he has the most in common, he also leads among Hispanics, women, and voters under 35. What’s telling about this particular part of the poll is what the zero number represents for Mitt Romney and the Republican party.
GOP Mitt Romney leads among Seniors, whites, and people living in rural areas. Sounds like the demographics of the South to me.
It’s been long held the Republican party is the party of the old Dixie-crats. The party of southern land owning, humans as property owning men. But if the base of the party are the only viable members of the party the GOP is going to find itself in an identity crisis very soon. The makeup of America is changing. Southern whites don’t dominate the way they used to. I’d go so far as to say they don’t dominate at all.
If you live in the South you know there are still deep seeded racial issues that aren’t as prevalent, if at all in the North. Take race mixing and marriage as the most recent example.
In the south the frequency with which you see the hate and heritage symbolizing Confederate Flag is not surprising; no reason to sound the alarm. The same can’t be said when you see the criss crossed stars and bars in the North. It is incendiary, damn near a reason to riot.
The differences in landscape, culture, priorities and people can explain the extreme polarization of the country. The south holds steadfastly to family values and religion making it an easy win for the Republican party which posits itself as the party of family values and evangelism. Some ask the question, If Black people hold fast to family values and conservative mores, why don’t they vote Republican? The simple answer is the Republican party while catering to the family values set, caters more to those with tall money and deep pockets, a set many minorities by circumstance, not choice, are excluded from.
Mitt Romney’s courageous appeal to Black voters at the NAACP conference was out of political duty not genuine interest. If the Republican party and its supporters want to play courtesan to one of the most picked over minority groups in the country feel free. But if they are going to don the role of the coquette they need to master the art of making one time samplers repeat customers.
The Republican party is hostile to outsiders. Minorities and immigrants are said to be welcomed but only in the confines of appearing to boost diversity not actually initiating a lane of equal opportunity. Women are only worthy if married with children. Single women are villainized or left victim to policies that protect nuclear family units over singular independence.
Those without excessive monetary value are insulted being told they are not working hard enough to achieve success; accused of being envious of the wealth of others when really they just want a shot to create their own.
There is no room to alternate from the main narrative of the Republican party. Without that alternation there is no room for inclusion because opposing ideas and opinions are shunned.
It is no surprise Mitt Romney has not captured the Black vote. It is not his fault. George W. Bush and Republican Presidents before him didn’t capture much of the Black vote either. Black people are not shunning the candidates per say, they are shunning the party that shuns them. The party that says, yes you must jump through all our hoops just to vote this year. The party that says if you are on welfare you are lazy, if you go to Planned Parenthood for any reason you are a baby killer, and if you came to this country for a chance to make your life better for you despite your illegal entry than you should turn around and retreat until you are invited in to the nation that says we will make all of your dreams come true.
The Republican party is the party of old moneyed mongrels who have no time to waste on charity cases, cases Democrats presume to take up with pride.
If Mitt Romney and the entire Republican party want an even split of the “unaccountable” voters they need to actually embrace the issues of these specific demographic groups. Until then they’ll continue to come up with zero and have to mobilize their base and not so undecided undecideds while Democrats reap the spoils of being able to pick from the minority majority.
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Democrats 1%
Republicans 99%
The 1% just the opposite of your poll! the proof as they say" is in the pudding"!
All of the media plays the race card by ignoring the epidemic of black crime going on in this country.
Race crime in the U.S. "Wikipedia"--
according to the F.B.I.. Uniform crime report database in 2010. 58% of crime offenders were "WHITE". while only 18%, were "BLACK".
you might ought to start worrying about the crime epidemic of all races, and not just the Black Race.
How about all the crimes committed by the white race in the last several weeks with their damn guns......any of them black guys going berserk? Agree with Rachael, how about just judging crimes in general, and what kinds of crimes?
Detroit, Atlanta, Chicago, St. Louis, Philadelphia, New Orleans,Birmingham, Memphis, Jackson,MS., and many others...check the stats
What stats, ever think of posting some real facts or links to back up what you say????
Truth is I found in a couple of surveys, that more white men were arrested for crimes, but more blacks were jailed. Now that seems strange?
That many are killed in Chicago on an average weekend, but not a word in the media
When I lived in Vegas most of the gangs were hispanics. Whenever they had the car show the gangs from Los Angeles would come in and they hated each other. Always could count on murders whenever the car show was in town.
I guess crime comes in all colors, My point is, it doesn't just lie in at the feet on one race, it's every where. We do need to deal the "GUN" violence, no matter where it comes from. Let's just stop being color blind about it. Too many innocent people are leaving way too soon. Maybe instead of trying to make this a race issue, we should post solutions and suggestions, on how we as concerned citizens can address this, and at least attempt to fix it. Instead of using it as a talking point.. My ears are open, I don't want to see any one lose their life in such a senseless way.
There is also no mention of the flash mob robberies and such things as riots at stores over the latest Nikes.
Susan Polk stabbed her husband 27 times in her $3 million home in Orinda Ca. She was really angry at him she stabbed him on the bottom of his feet while he was trying in vain to protect himself. Susan was white. Her oldest son at her trial called her 'koko for cocoa puffs'... She was a privildge and wealth and WHITE and very capable of murder. There are many others...
keep trying. Social engineering is not working.
For those who what the HBO show newsroom, the acting news commentator called the GOP correctly on last nights show, they are the American Tailiban, claiming they love American but all the while listening to them proving they hate Americans. The GOP is and has always used the race card especially when they are loosing to reach THEIR base of racists, neo-con, nazi, anti women, oil tycoon, idiots.
Republicans! They either don't know or forget this nation's history. Some still haven't gotten over the passage of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights laws.
While your conclusion is correct, your reasoning for it is not - in 1964, the "DIXIECRATS" opposed civil rights (in general) They manage to hamstring the party enough that the Republican MODERATES (yes, indeed, there WAS SUCH A TYPE) banded together to ensure passage of the legislation. Then the voting rights act of 1965 irritated them even MORE - enough that they LEFT the Democrats (not that the bustards were much good any way) and migrated over to the RETHUGs (which was rapidly being turned "reichwing" by their association with the christian religionazis), Only a vary few remained - like Robert Byrd of Virginia (former high ranking something in the KKK) The DIXIECRATS were welcomed by the rightwingers with open arms.
Like i said - the whole story tells more than the simple version.
The Republicans are showing their behinds, they've been doing it since the 2010 midterms. They're playing the race card, lying, pulling any dirty trick they can out of their bag to win this election. Karma is a......., and all of this ugliness is going to bite them in their behinds in November.
Your absolutely right!
and WHY did that happen in 2010? Can you say COMPLACENCY? I knew you could...
I don't think that people espcially young people who were first time voters in 2008 realized that they have an obligation to vote every two years. Remember the republicans did not want to pay for Civics classes anymore and I guess that created Apathy.