
Mitt Romney’s problems are growing exponentially. Prominent conservatives are now calling on him to release more tax returns NOW.
Bill Kristol said Romney should do it and it should be 8 to 10 additional years. George Will said the costs of not releasing them are clear so the costs of releasing them must be high. They aren’t the only ones telling Romney to get it over with and release the returns.
This is all a result of the renewed focus on Romney’s years at the helm of Bain Capital. Even Romney strategist Ed Gillespie says that Obama’s Bain ads have been working, yet more documents list Romney as head of Bain during the years he has claimed publicly he didn’t have an active role, flatly contradicting him.
Gillespie also says Romney retired “retroactively” from Bain. So the Romney campaign is clearly flailing. Meanwhile, President Obama says there will be no apology for his attacks on Bain.
“Mr. Romney claims he’s Mr. Fix-It for the economy because of his business experience, so I think voters entirely legitimately want to know what is exactly his business experience,” he said. ”Mr. Romney is now claiming he wasn’t there at the time except his filings with the SEC listing says he was the CEO, chairman and president of the company.”
And just today in a speech President Obama went after Romney’s so-called economy-fixing experience full throttle.
The very latest on “The Ed Show” tonight.



The NObama campaign is LYING!
VOTE NObama 2012!!
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Obama/Biden 2012 !!!! NOOOOooooooo Question !!!!!!
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VOTE NObama 2012!!
Obama/Biden 2012 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Romney is listed as 100 percent owner of "BainCapital Inc." Bain Capital Inc. was the
management firm, which was paid a management fee to run the fundsand actually
made virtually no profit, since it existed to pay salaries and expenses. After
Romney formally left Bain in 2001, a new entity called "BainCapital LLC" took over the management function.
Again you DEMWITS KNOW nothing about BUSINESS......
vote NObama 2012!!!
Obama/Biden 2012 === Hands-Down !!!!!!!
I have a friend that owns 5 McDonalds signs the same filing that Mitt did. My friend told me that his regional manager takes care of the daily business. My friend owns it but pays someone else to run it. The DEMWITS can't understand this concept, neither can President Obama. Do you know why President Obama has never ran a business? It is because he couldn't, Mitt would be smart to let the world know that he is proud to be able to create a huge company, and that President Obama would never get a job their because he has no skills.
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How is the Pixie Dust Working For You ????????
chemdmd,
democrats do understand that concept (paying someone to run mitt's business) and so does President Obama, but there are too many unanswered questions.
President Obama has been hounded by the repubs about his religion, about rev. wright, about his citizenship, about his birth certificate, and his college transcripts, and etc. they have lied about him in regard to raising taxes, in regard to gun control, they have called him unamerican, unpatriotic, i could go on.
and i will.
the conservatives had a meeting with the sissified frank luntz on the day that President Obama was inaugurated, and they PROMISED TO EACH OTHER to SAY "NO" to all of President Obama's economic policies (and everything else) in the interest of making him a "one-term" president. we have seen nothing but filibustering and obstructionism from the repubs in congress. the first two years all we heard about from repubs was "where are the jobs", while they were doing everything they could to slow the economy. since they took the house in 2010, they have been more concerned about controlling my vagina and uterus, and the vagina and uterus of every woman in the country (we are only having 2.5 children per god-given uterus), vs. moving the economy forward with jobs for the american people.
turnabout is fair play, and President Obama is doing to the repub party, to mitt romney, what repubs have been doing to him for the past 3.5 years.
i hated it when repubs hounded our President for his birth certificate, and when bush "swiftboated" (lied about) John Kerry". its nice to see the democrats get a little aggressive after the entitled and "special" mitt romney. karl rove and mitt romney and repubs are crying on fux news. too bad.
don't be so childish, of course our President can run a business.
yes, i am smiling :-).
Poor little republican once again you see the last clown standing from the GOP circus of the clowns crashing and burning. That is what you get when you purge your party of good candidates, your left scrapping the bottom of the barrel ad coming up with corrupt turds.
Whomit, Well, I dunno, we mustn't forget, Bachmann, Cain, and Perry! They were scraping bottom all along, weren't they.
They rid themselves of their one good candidate, Jon Huntsman, because he wouldn't bend over to their insane policies and ideology. Romney's a #1 chock-a-bloc Panderer and that is who they wanted. They being Wall Street, the corporations, and the Brothers Koch.
India whats left of the GOP is cesspool scrapings, they purged the party of all the sane people and this is what is left.
India~ Speaking of Bachmann, have you heard her lastest idiocy? She claims Anthony Weiner's wife Huma that works for Hillary Clinton, has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood! My God, don't these idiots ever get tired of having to think up new lies to spread everyday?! We can't get rid of Bachmann OR Palin for the life of us!!
They're the herpes of the Republican party.
Apparently THEY Aproove of the Disease - hey !!!!!!! he he he heheeeee GOMERS !!!
The Pinocchio Test
The Obama campaign is blowing smoke here.We realize that Bauer gets to the word “criminal” by mentioning “investigation,” but that distinction might be lost on most listeners.
Meanwhile, the weight of evidence suggests that Romney did in fact end active management of Bain in 1999. He stated that in a federal disclosure form he signed, under threat of criminal penalties. He said he was a “former employee” in a state disclosure form. A state commission concluded 10 years ago that he did, indeed, leave Bain in 1999. Investors in Bain funds were told he was not part of the management team.
The SEC documents, especially the ones Romney signed, do raise some questions. One can certainly argue that because Romney did not fully extricate himself from Bain till after his Olympic sojourn ended, he should bear some responsibility for what happened in that period. But that is an entirely different matter than suggesting that he is a potential criminal. It is more of a PR problem, which the Obama campaign is trying to exploit to build a larger case that Romney is secretive.
We were tempted to award this claim Four Pinocchios, but the documents with his signature leave some room for inquiry. But, overall, they shrink in importance to the other evidence cited above. (Our colleagues at FactCheck.Org also reaffirmed their similar conclusion.)
Still, if the Obama campaign wants to put its money where its mouth is, it should immediately lodge a complaint about Romney’s financial disclosure form, filed just last year, rather than try to mislead people about potential violations in relatively unimportant SEC documents.
Three Pinocchios
VOTE NO Obama 2012!!!!
Obama/Biden 2012 ---- ALL The Way !!!!!!
Is it just me, or does that picture of Mitt make him look evil? Oooh. It's the eyes.
When Romney ran for Gov.of Mass he had ads saying that he created 10,000 job's.Now it's 100,000 job's.He's content to take credit for job's created by Staples etal after he left Bain, but does'nt want to take credit for outsourcing and killing job's when he was listed as the guy in charge on SEC filing's.Get a grip b113.
It just floors me. How could Obummer question Romney's economic fixing ability when he has none, zero, zilch!! After almost 4 years, look where this economy is. He may have inherited a problem but he has only made it worse.
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Only because you watch Fox propaganda station and don't know what is going on in the country, you are to busy hiding under your bed from those evil new black panthers Fox told you about. Guess what because of Obama you no longer need to hide under your bed because OBL is coming to get you Obama did what GWB refused to do, he sent in the military and got him..
NObama = Jimmy Carter EPIC FAIL!
vote NObama 2012!
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MD poor Mittens even the GOP are starting to turn on him.
Whom - Wonder WHY ?? Ha ha ahahahahaaaaa !!!! Duh-Dit-da-Dit-DUH !!!!! heheheeeeeeeee !!!
Whomy and MD/MI must be bald. It looks like they put their heads together and made an a$$ of themselves.
OH - Thanx For Your Comment --- It Means Soooooo Much --------- hahahahaaaaa !!!
I know MD he made a 2nd grade funny didn't he. Why in 15 years he might be able to make a 3rd grade funny.
Ha Haaa haaaaaa hahaaaa === What a Bunch-O-GOMERS - hey !!!!!!!
Let's ban this guy and his opinions, MD/MI. That was a personal attack.
Hey India - Yep - I Activated the "No Value" and The "Inflammatory" - But --- I Cannot do it by myself !!!!!
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I'm glad you got a laugh out of it MD. I thought is was funny too.
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Activate all you want there MD. I have seen some of your vile remarks many time on this site. Hey, were you not banned for a while back in April for some of your dribble?
HeHe Heeeeeeee - Well Get Yourself Ready For MORE --- Ha Ha Haaaaaaaa !!!! GOMER
Personal attacks are handled differantly. You don't pay attention much do you? Your's was a direct personal atteck on Whon and MD. I will shoot off a complaint. And also, it is always you righties that strat things and then whine when we come back at you. You've started many things on other threads. Keep whinning.
Larry - Thanks for the Back-up - Brah !!! Yeah - Typical ---- Its OK If THEY Do It --- Butt - Not Anyone Else !!!! Ha Ha Ha Haaaaaaaaaa !!!! GOMERS !!!
Larry74
Personal Attack Like this you Mean???
MD/MI
Ha Haaa ---- A- Kike-Is-a-Kike-Is-A-Kike !!!!! This explains robMe in A Tortilla Wrap !!!!!
Obama/Biden 2012 !!!! NOOOOooooooo Question !!!!!!
#1.1 - Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:22 PM EDT
Hey Larry74,
If you need some help typing up your complaint, let me know.
You lefties just can't handle the truth.
Mitt was listed as owner, CEO, President and Managing Director of Bain Capital from 1999 through 2004 (the years in question). If, as he claims, he had turned the day-to-day operations of Bain over to someone else (the Board of Directors), this needed to be filed with the SEC as soon as possible. The fact that it was not makes him responsible for anything that happened at that time. If Bain was in such disarray as he would like us to believe and unable to appoint a new President, CEO and MD doesn't say much for the company and I highly doubt he would have allowed that to happen. Or if they DID appoint new people, but didn't file new paperwork with the SEC, that COULD be considered a felony.
Mitt left bain in February 1999 in doing so he turned over the day-to-day operations to the management.
After the Winter games, mitt started the negotiations of selling out his stock of bain to the management team.
This took over 2 years, reason is the now going to be owners in this LLC are going to limited partners.
So they took their time over 2 years to get it right the 1st time, in regards of partners joining & leaving the company.
Now it is law and under the rules of LLC's and the SEC that Mitt had to be listed as sole stock owner CEO & managing director, until his sale was 100% completed.
Go read the rules of an LLC at irs.gov & sec.gov
Sorry but again you are wrong in fact now republicans are telling Mittens to come clean. Repeating your lies will not turn them into facts. No businessman would allow his name to be on a company that long unless he was stupid. Then there is the little matter of Mittens sworn testimony saying he was running Bain in 2001/2002 so he could run for office. So Mittens little damage control lie is falling apart faster then Cains excuses for groping women.
It Certainly Is Amazing - How these Goofballs Pluck Fairy-Dust Out of the Air - And Expect Everyone To Believe Their BS - hey !!!!!???????? He he heeee heeeee - GOMERS !!!!!
Why isn't Stupidita being called out for the re-reg she has become?
Ho-lee-cow.
Shush we aren't done playing with it yet.
India - Yeah --- I Do Not Know WHY Tyler or Sally Do NOT Catch These Goofballs - As Soon As They RE-REG ???????????????????? Isnt That Their JOB ???????????????????????????
well, don't forget, his campaign adviser said Sunday that "he retired retroactively". He's got more stories than a kids library.
L = Ha haaa Ha Haaa Haaaa - You Got That Rite --------- he he heeeeeee !!!!!
Maybe he'll develop a brain, retroactively. We can only hope.
I hate to rain on all you leftists parade (not really), but all this Bain talk is just the next in the long line of "distract from Obama's record and other real issues" movement. It will soon be forgotten, just like all of the other non-issues.
It is kind of like the "birther" movement on the right - it is great for getting the hardcore base fired up (the people who will vote for their candidate regardless), but it doesn't really do anything for the majority of voters - those that swing elections.
Dont hand Us that Trickle down CRAP - GOMER !!!! - Yeah - Distractions --- OH Ohohohoo Distractions ---- REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLLY ????
What's Romney's record? Four years as governor of a state 47th job creation, increasing fees, Romneycare, giving money to solar companies he had friends at that failed....funny he wants to mention Solyndra and for those of you who don't get what that menas the adminstration gave Solyndra no special anythings. Obama had no friends there.
CC - OH - They Don't Want to Bring These Things To Light -- NO - NO - They Just Want to Avoid these Things --- Just Like robMe Ducks and Dodges EVERYTHING --- You Know - Like The DRAFT and TAXES and Keeping and Isolating His Money That He ROBBED Americans OF - OUT Of the American Deficit Equation -In Multiple Offshore Account's - For Nothing Other Than Tax-Evasion Purposes --- hey !!!!!!
So you are slamming Romney for low job creation, increasing taxes/fees, government run healthcare, and crony capitalism...yet seem to see Obama as a better choice? Hmmm
I did see the new Obama ad (in fact Ed discussed it in a thread) where he talked about his accomplishments. Actually he just slammed Romney for outsourcing and foreign investments. Funny, he didn't mention anything in those ads about Fisker (stimulus money to create jobs...in Finland), his overseas fundraising adventures, Valerie Jarrett's line of credit at a bank in Bermuda, Wasserman-Schultz's overseas investments (foreign drug companies, State Bank of India, etc.) etc.
The problem with Solyndra and companies like it is the Obama administration wants to create an inflated market to prop up the industry...on the taxpayers dime.
The birther nonsense is based on a lie made up in the minds of some very insane people. Mittens Bain problems come from what Bain did and what Mittens hid. That you can't tell the difference shows either a very dumb person or a person who seeks to misinform.
robMe/bain capital is Responsible for Negative Job Creation/Destruction IN The USA -- YEAH - YEP !!!!!!
Not surprisingly you missed another point.
If you would leave this blog for a few minutes, you would realize that majority of people don't care about Bain and what happened years ago. They care about the state of the economy and the country moving forward.
The birther issue - appeals to a small percentage of people who don't matter.
Bain - appeals to a small percentage of people who don't matter.
Perhaps Some Day - You Will Become Conscience as To The World That Is Around You !!!! ---- Butt - I Doubt -IT !!!!! DUH-Dit-Da-Dit-Da-Dit-Da-Dit-DUH ---- Whhhhaaaaaaatttt ????? Just Cannot Figure it All out --- Hey !!!!!!
No the majority of republicans don't care about Bain but as seen time after time when people learn about Mittens and Bain Mittens loses.
was a rumor that Romney's wife had Romney by his ear yelling at him....when I say open your mouth, that's when you say what I told you....yank yank yank.....
His mouth doesn't work properly unless someone Inserts Money ---- What an Automaton he IS - hey !!!!!! Even Then His Mouth Does Not Function Properly --- What A GOMER !!!!
No I'm slamming Romney for never talking about his record and lying about his in those few instances he thinks bringing it up will get somewhere will get him somewhere and the general lying
Taxes haven't increased. The right wing claims of cronyism are thoroughly shown to be unfounded upon actual investigation and they do actually investigate
Neither of the two men created a government run healthcare system but only one of them is willing to mention that
If Valerie Jarrett or Debby Wasserman-Schultz was running for president perhaps there offshore dealings would be a problem for them luckily for those two women they aren't.
The right just can't bear to think of the fact this isn't about all people with wealth or offshore investments it's about one man Mitt Romney who's ruinning for president saying he has all this faith in America but his hedging his bets on other countries expecting that not to think that won't cause people to not have confidence in him. But anytime you criticize Mitt Romney suddenly he becomes the avatar of all these different groups, well he's no avatar or representative of anything but himself.
Now on solyndra that's the point of subsidies to begin with. But the congressional republicans want to use tax payer money to prop up an industry which is in no danger of failing and voted to keep doing it. Guess the GOP has given up on their self professed "all of the above" energy plan. Apparently what they really mean is "all of the above but only if that is fossil fuels"
The Bain attacks are working, they always do whether it be in the Republican primary or any of Romney's failed congressional campaigns. Every time he calls himself a business job creator for his work at Bain, every time the opponent attacks that with specifics like these and every time it works. Surprisingly Romney has yet to develop any defense to this even though this is always played against him.....I'm mean come on it happens every time that campaign might be a little inept. This fact that it is often used and always works to some extent, some greater than others, shows it does matter to more than a tiny group of people who don't matter.
Don't you get the idea that Mitt's entire reason he says he knows about the economy is his work at Bain. So Bain is his record of experience on the economy but critiquing it is irrelevant to the economy? If it's irrelevant to the economy then that would mean Romney has no economic experience he claims he has.
If birtherism only appealed to a tiny group of people who don't matter why did Donald Trump climb the polls in GOP politics when he started talking about it? Now he's some right wing extremist superstar? Why? Why do Representatives keep trying to play it? If it only matters to a small group of people why are republican politicians still playing with it 3.5 years later? I'd like to think it only matters to a small group but sadly it seems to not be as true as we would like.
The Loose Cannon appeals to a small percentage of people who don't matter.
Ha Haaaa - cannon Doesnt even Know What Direction he/IT is Pointed In - Ha Haaaa !!!!!! GOMER
C'mon Cynical, taxes haven't or won't increase under Obama's watch? Well, there is the whole Obamacare tax and everything associated with it. Excise tax on charitable hospitals, tax on innovator drug companies, medicine cabinet tax deduction, indoor tanning tax, cigarette tax, are all examples and that is just a start.
Why do you think Romney does not want to talk about socialized medicine aka Romneycare? Well, because it is a losing issue...why is Obama attacking Bain , rather than advertising his "accomplishments" like Obamacare. Well, because again it is a losing issue.
I have asked this before in regards to offshore investments that the Democrats claim to hate so much. Where do you draw the line? It is apparently a big deal if you are running for President, but they don't seem to care if they are an elected member of congress (to represent Americans), plus the head of a major political party (Wasserman-Schultz) or a close adviser to the President (Jarrett). What is shows me is that it just a political stunt.
Here is the thing with Trump. I don't think birtherism was his main selling point, I am sure he appealed to some people with it - not enough to matter though. People like Trump because he comes across as a successful businessman - the anti-Obama. Again, the economy is what matters. If birtherism was such an issue he would have had more longevity and more Republicans would talk about it...except for a a few people on the fringe no one else cares.
I am not saying Romney's record at Bain should be completely off limits, but it seems to me it has crossed the line to stunt. Think in terms of the general election...not many people are going to walk in the voting booth and decide between Bain or birtherism and that is my point, they will both fade into non-issues.
Awwwww how cute he has his GOP talking points to keep him warm.
Chris and MD/MI - witty as always, completely pointless, but witty. Of course I don't have the bar set too high for either of you. What is Ed telling you to think tonight?
Whom, you can't fool me - I know you can't read and comprehend a post longer than one or two sentences or one that requires any critical thinking or research. I asked Chris and MD/MI, but I would like your input as well. What is Ed telling you to think tonight?
Oh and Whom, you are always welcome to contradict me with any of sort of debate or facts. There is a first time for everything, right? Well, not everything...
Hilarious that you think anyone here respects you or anything you have to say.
You're like a little kid all dressed up in his big boy pants and thinking he's an adult.
Just keep parading around in front of that mirror.
Oh Chris, you don't respect me? That really hurts my feelings...I just wanted to come in here so you would like me. Too bad...sniff, sniff.
It is comical that you refer to me as the little kid, when you troll calling names to anyone you don't agree with...because you have nothing meaningful to say. It is funny you think you are getting a one up on me, when with every pointless, name calling post you prove my point about your lack of self-awareness and knowledge. Please read the posts between Cynical and I - we may not agree, but that is how adults speak.
What taxes have been raised in Obama's term? Zero. You can not say taxes have gone up if they haven't no matter how one feels about that. People on the right costly claimed this happened and it hasn't so to say otherwise is a lie. It's that simple no politics necessary assessment of reality. You can argue not raising taxes was good. You can argue no raising tax revenue was bad but you can not argue that taxes have been raised
Now to Obamacare there is a penalty in it but no taxes. I have no problem with people not being to have all their emergency care paid for by us you should as well. In the right's quest to be 1000% against everything Obama related it advocating for freeloading. I have no problem with taxes or penalties or whatever context one wants to apply. Unless you've a got better idea to not have the people pay for the entire medical care bills of others....frankly just can it.
oh and FYI you do that things like cigarettes and beer have been taxed higher than other products for decades.....drug companies do more advertising and bribing than innovating they are the drug pushers we should be fighting. These companies are looking for the cure to AIDS or cancer they are developing newer cheaper antidepressants and boner pills. Hardly a major worthwhile contribution to society.
Funny you mention drug companies since Glaxo-Smith-Klein just got cited last week with potential crimes and have been ordered to pay one of the largest drug company settlements in history for off label marketing. This comes after already having to pay billions only a few years ago for other unsavory business practices.
And I be 'ya in a few years they'll do it all over again
Neither Romney nor Obama wrote government take overs of healthcare. If it was how would their be any for profit private insurance companies if government is now running everything. Doesn't even pass the simple logic test. In fact the companies helped write the law! Look around the world and you'll notice every single industrialized country in the world has a healthcare system vastly more socialist than our own and it isn't hurting nations like germany.
Remember all the various provisions of the ACA are incredibly popular with the exception of the individual mandate and all those numbers continue to increase. Nancy Pelosi was right, now people are actually seeing what is trully in it without the distortion fog of the right wing misinformation/noise machine people are liking it. It isn't a losing issue. Certainly not for Obama vs. Romney
And in fact Obama has been talking about the affordable care act on the campaign trail as well his a record of various accomplishments. You may debate the merits of any one of the aforementioned accomplishments however when has Romney talked about anything he did as governor of massachusetts? What's Romney's plan? He has yet to inform us as to what that is
When has Romney talked about his record? He doesn't want to talk about massachuseets and he refuses to elaborate on Bain. No one knows what he thinks or plans to do at this point.
Well are Valerie Jarrett or Debby Wasserman-Schultz running for president? Have they refused to release tax returns or any other financial information to the public? What you fail to see is Romney is not a symbol for all people with any form of offshore investments people like to play into that too much helps cement the falsehood and false equivalency on both sides. No one alleges his overseas money is illegal but you can not deny his choices on them have been very stupid in this campaign. When you're running for president saying you have all this faith in america and you have money in common tax shelters renown for their opacity and people don't trust you to begin with it doesn't inspire confidence.
He brought this on himself just like the Bain attacks how did the Romney campaign not know this was going to happen....really...if Mitt likes to fire people so much he should start with his campaign advisors since they aren't providing good services to him by shooting him in the foot. No matter what somehow the Romney campaign always manages to hit the bull's eye on the campaign's biggest insecurities
Now to Donald Trump if that is really what people think than it is a sign a giant portion of the right lacks critical thinking skills. Trump isn't a successful business he's finaled for corporate bankruptcy two or three times now. What other issues did he ever talk about other than birtherism? He certainly didn't say anything intelligent. Trump is not a successful business man, he's squandered more of the wealth he was born with than add to it. Thus I have no other reason to conclude it was anything other playing games with birtherist obama denialism and hatred
When people walk into a voting booth they will not have forgetten things like Bain and birtherism. Bain is Romney's only reason running he needs people to remember it since his campaign only has a fragmented, vague message based around it. When people walk into the booth they will also be making character judgement. Many and well most right and left have little respect for Romney's character. He has not given people any reason to believe in him and so no matter how bad the economy could ever be, Weimar Republic territory, even then he will have a hard time winning. People want someone with a backbone. Mitt and the GOP's failure to just stop playing with birtherism in any fashion and to call it out when they see for many shows a lack of character qualities. People are thinking these guys are too afraid to laugh at the crazies and instead issue these long winded sort of half cocked remarks about how they take him at his word...which sounds like nothing but if someone asked you if you believed nonsense like this if you were really so against it wouldn't you have just said "no"?
So, you think (falsely) that since none of the tax increases that Obama has rubber stamped have taken effect that he has not raised taxes? I just bought a new house (signed all the paperwork) but I have not yet moved in...therefore I did not buy a new house?
I am aware that tobacco products and alcohol have been taxed for a long time...that does not mean that increasing taxes on them is somehow not a tax hike.
I always find it funny that the party of entitlements is now claiming that Obamacare is about "personal responsibilty." It is a loser...why isn't Obama advertising this big accomplishment, instead of attacking Bain?
So, I assume by your statement about Wasserman-Schultz and Jarrett that you really don't care about overseas investments, outsourcing, etc. by elected officials (or in Jarrett's case those who work closely with elected officials) as long as they are not running for President? Or if they are part of the party your support? My problem is the huge hypocrisy. Like I said before your limousine liberals don't care about Romney's money, they do the same things...they just use it to con the uninformed voter.
I just walked by a Trump building in NYC, I saw he just opened a brand new golf resort in Scotland, to name a few of his accomplishments..get real that he isn't a successful businessman...every successful business or business person has failures. People want to see someone with business success like a Trump or Romney, rather than someone with no business experience like Obama.
You are fooling yourself if you think people's main thoughts walking into the voting booth this November are Bain and birtherism. People care about the economy...you may think Romney's message now is vague, but you seem to forgot Obama's record is real and he can't run away from it. Obama has done nothing but blame others...and you say voters want someone with a backbone.
And these taxes are? Who's paying more in federal income taxes? Again you can argue he should or should not raise taxes but you can't argue he has. Who will be paying more in federal income taxes in Obama's plan that isn't as of yet law?
Cigarette taxes how many people will experience that? You know that in our system of refference and debate we don't lump these things to the forfront as if they are analgous to corporate or income taxes.
Taxes you don't have to pay aren't taxes. Who has to drink, smoke or tan? Who is forcing people to make that decision? Conservatives have never once protested taxes or increased fees on either one of those products?
Tax are things you have no choice to pay. Quick question so should we lower user fees on these things? Is that something that'll help society? Just asking.
Don't read much do you I just said he is talking about the ACA because well...he is.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5zU1y_0Geo&feature=related
Individual mandate is a conservative idea you know that. It stops putting the public on the line for people who choose to not have insurance. Got any better ideas? Don't for second of your pathetic life convince yourself I care to give anyone anything ever. Could care less about most of the human race. I'm just being honest. Point is the idea is about personal responsibility so on what grounds are you attacking it other than politics. I support when governor Romney does it, Obama or anyone else.
Better question why isn't Romney going into detail on his business experience or romneycare? Where are Romney's accomplishments?
Even funnier I just watched a commercial promoting the healthcare act and urging people to learn more about it online
Nope don't much care about offshore investments by american officials, to say that is far too simple but either it doesn't matter much. I already told you that and you must have chosen not to read that
What you fail to see is Romney is not a symbol for all people with any form of offshore investments people like to play into that too much helps cement the falsehood and false equivalency on both sides. No one alleges his overseas money is illegal but you can not deny his choices on them have been very stupid in this campaign. When you're running for president saying you have all this faith in america and you have money in common tax shelters renown for their opacity and people don't trust you to begin with it doesn't inspire confidence.
Once again its got little to do with the actions as it does how it looks in the campaign. If you believe there is a potential to help the Romney campaign with this contrary to the only point I have attempted to make I would love to hear those ideas. Furthermore from you have said Jarret and Wasserman have investments in actual business it would appear Romney has money in bank accounts not really companies. His money is basically just sitting there collecting interest it does seem to be connected with actual commerce.
To not deal with this stuff early in the campaign or before the race was just a huge unnecessary political miscalculation. Romney has money in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and Switzerland which accurate or not the american people instantly associate with tax dodging. These country's name evoke the term tax dodging for mot people you may wish to say that is not a logical belief by the country but it is none the less what people think when they hear those names. Every single one of his republican rivals said this was stupid politics so it did not take a public policy genius to realize this wasn't going to be good for the campaign. Romney was warned this was going to happen. Forgive me if I don't feel all that sorry he walked himself right into this one. He put the bullet in the other team's gun.
Perhaps if people on both sides did not unanimously agree Romney can't be trusted to do anything because no one knows what he trully believes as a result of all his drastic flip flops. he has a record number more than any other democrat or republican politician out there right now.
As you may read or more likely not because you already didn't read.....I have said that if Wasserman-Schultz or Jarrett were running for president than it would probably hurt them too. It's just a dumb campaign move political ideology has nothing to do with it.
On Trump he is a joke and is no where as successful as he claims. If the right loves all successful business men why no love for Warren Buffett or George Soros? They have money and you don't want them to run......You and I both know the right likes him because he's willing to say crazy things nad lie about the president. People don't care or listen to Donald Trump 'cuz he has lots of money it's because he will say anything just Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann.
More importantly I don't care how successful anyone is at anything, someone who believes seriously and continues to spread the idea that Obama was not a citizen is not someone who should ever be an the whitehouse. I don't care if we're in Weimar Republic territory and they've made 100 trillion dollars if they believe that they aren't someone worthy of the highest office. You forget character is a factor. If the Grand Dragon of the Klu Klux Klan had a quadrillion dollars and the country's finances were worse than the Weimar Republic and Greece combined are you going to tell me you'd be comfortable with that person being president? I hope not.
Once again you lie about my comments I thought were a rather simple argument guess not. So first I'd like you to show me where I said people will vote solely on Bain or birtherism. I won't hold my breath because I know what I did say is that people will not forget about those things they will have a factor. You may argue it is a small factor but it is foolish to believe that no one is in any way going to be influenced by something just because it is not the top issue.
Character, personality, temperament and leadership in fact do matter. When people vote for President they are voting for more than just a set of policy positions again Grand Dragon ya' people are going to want to vote for that person even if they had an amazing list of plans. People may elect them but they will not want to or feel good about it so those personal character things do have some influence.
If that is not true why does the right believe Obama's alleged lack of leadership will influence the election? Leadership is not a public policy plan or piece of legislation but it's still an issue 'aint it?
So Romney has not shown a tremendous conviction consistently on anything in his political career if it is not true why did all Romney's rivals mention that? There is changing your mind but I and most have seen little to nothing to suggest this is the genuine case with Romney. He has said he would always support a women's right to choose because someone he knew died in a back alley abortion yet he is saying now he was always anti-choice/pro-life, what changed?
If he'd tell people why he changed his mind and acknowledged that he did there would be no problem. Do you think it's a coincidence he was pro-gay marriage and pro-choice running for congress in massachusetts and that he has denied both those beliefs running in a 2012 GOP primary? That's just coincidence?
Romney has not shown a backbone and most GOP would say he has no core. Whether Obama does or does not has nothing to do with whether Romney does. At worst then neither of them have a backbone so no matter how you spin that it isn't going to help Romney now is it
Song for Willard and his (our) money! RIP Jon Lord
http://youtu.be/XxNYOcNnmGI
The president NObama made the comment Friday during a speech
to supporters in Roanoke, Va. Arguing that business owners got help from others
along the road to success and suggesting they should pay more in taxes in
return, he said: "If you've got a business, you didn't build that.
Somebody else made that happen."
NObama the Tax's and SPEND president..
VOTE NObama 2012!!
I think Mitt Romney establishes off-shore accounts to avoid paying the IRS over the the money (or values of the properties he owns overseas). He can do that by not filing Form TD F 90-22.1, the so called FBAR (Foreign Bank Accounts Report) form every year. He should be asked to reveal whether he had filed this form yearly. If he can not show these forms properly, then he's cheating the IRS.
Finally, Obama has come out with record!! Yayyyy!!!
8.2% unemployment
18.9% unemployment for Blacks
9.1% for woman,
685,000 woman lost their job and health insurance(who cares about FREE birth control when you do not have health insurance)
The poverty rate for woman has gone up to 14.2% from 7.6%
We have 5.1 million fewer jobs than 3.5 years ago
3.6 million Residential foreclosures
2.6 million Commercial foreclosures
Over 3.8 million business have gone out of business
38,000 US products moved offshore for manufacturing
The lowest number of patents in 35 years
The highest number of people receiving food stamps in 30 years
A 26% decrease in the value of the dollar
The fewest new prescription drugs in 25 years, 308 prescription drugs in short supply (as of 6/1/11)
Housing values drop 33%
Housing starts the lowest in 35 years
Gas $5 a gallonInflation at 18% (counting food and energy cost), a budget that is 24.6% of GDP (Clinton's was 18%), this is the slowest recovery in the history of the United States
Gave Al Gore $527 million to build electric cars in Finland
Fast and Furious - Americans and Mexicans murdered
The only President to drop our credit rating to AA from AAA+
Over 2000 EPA regulations on business and farmers.
Oh, better accuse my rival of felony, that might divert just enough for me to win.
vote NObama 2012!!
Mitt and his Kit is indicative of the modern republican party today. Lie and decive the american people so that they can prosper in money, power and control of the american way...that is, the American Way that they invision..which is very similar to what caused the Civil War.
plain and simple...Romney's a crook...but i guess that's the best the republicans can do....
Romeny just needs to show his taxes it that simple, or just quit the race and go home. I think he is hiding something and just doesn't want the american people to know that he is really for rich and doesn't want to pay his fare share of taxes
Bravo to John McCain! I disagree on many things the far right-wing republicans say or do (that is the tea party people) but I am happy to know that at least one Republican has moral ethics... He has restored my belief that Democracy still exist in this great country. Thank you John McCain. Thank you! I read very recently that great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, and small minds discuss people. John McCain... you have a great mind however the tea party people, Fox 2, the paul ryans, and the drug addict Rush Limbaugh and others like them, sadly to say but they are acting narrow-minded in their thinking, and acting so disgraceful as Americans. Especially, when they attack and call the president un-American for it is they that is truly acting un-American... Those attacks and remarks represent a "small mind." This is not leadership for this country this is foolishness driven by foolish people.