That's not a rhetorical question. The latest ad from the Obama campaign hitting Mitt Romney for his offshoring and offshore bank accounts is registering far beyond the inner circles of the DC Beltway. Here's Gawker's take on the ad. What's yours? Leave us a comment below.
How Good is This Ad?
Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:32 PM EDT



The NObama campaign is lying!
VOTE NO Obama 2012!!
Facts are facts. How can you say the President's campaign is lying about Romney? Do you live in a cave someplace?
Do you have any idea what you are saying. lol I know republicans only have a 5 minute attention span; do you need a history lesson? LOL
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romney-and-his-departure-from-bain/2012/07/12/gJQAASzUfW_blog.html#pagebreak
vote NObama 2012!
mitt romney is the only liar out there. what is he hiding in those tax return.
this is the BEST ad from the Obama camp so far this campaign!
I LOVE IT!
i also love the fact that the Obama campaign/Obama is going after mitt romney the way repubs have gone after democrats. CASE IN POINT; John Kerry and his service to this country. just this morning i heard rush limbaugh complaining because he thinks that President Obama is "swiftboating" mitt romney.
i am slackjawed that they have the balls to complain about President Obama doing to mitt romney (sort of) the same thing that repubs did to John Kerry, to Bill Clinton, and countless other democrats.
i can't help but smile when they cry like little boys when democrats do the same thing to them that they have been doing to democrats for years. karl rove was crying the other night on fox news. the entitled and special mitt romney has been crying also.
President Obama has learned lessons well from the repubs for the past 3.5 years. he learned from repubs by trying over and over to compromise and get work done for the american people, and all they did was REPEATEDLY tell him "NO". he can either learn these lessons and use THEIR tactics against THEM by telling the truth, or he can continue to take the same $hit and lose the election.
turnabout is fair play, and the repub party doesn't like it.
Do you enjoy being a complete ass? Start researching and then let us know!
wfototrac,
who you talkin' to?
Dude...you don't make something factual simply by repeating it over and over. Grow a brain, then get back to us.
Romney is listed as 100 percent owner of "BainCapital Inc." Bain Capital Inc. was the
management firm, which was paid a management fee to run the fundsand actually
made virtually no profit, since it existed to pay salaries and expenses. After
Romney formally left Bain in 2001, a new entity called "BainCapital LLC" took over the management function.
Again you DEMWITS KNOW nothing about BUSINESS......
vote NObama 2012!!!
Then how come in an interview with the Boston Globe in 2002, when he was being questioned as to whether he REALLY qualified for state residency to run for Governor of Massachusetts, he said he got back to the state regularly for holidays and Bain Board Meetings? 2002. He says whatever works best for him at the time, which means he's usually lying. Today they're saying he "retired retroactively" - I guess he found a tax loophole in the space-time continuum.
What you are describing makes Mitt sounds like he games the system skirting the spirit of law to doge regulations.... Now I have a better idea as to why Mitt doesn't want to release his financials Hmmm looks like we need an investigation. We need a look at his records going back to at least 1995!
What a moron you are, no one is paid $100,000 dollars a year after the date their quit. How ignorant can you guys be, plus Romney said he was coming back to meetings for Bain when he was challenged in 2002 about his residency when he was running for Governor, now which is it. He was not there when it's convenient for him to say he was working for Bain so he could run for Governor or now after it was found that Bain was outsourcing jobs. He lied in one of these instances, which lie do you want to stick with.
b113, are you sure you know how investment funds work? You say that Bain Capital, Inc. and Bain Capital, LLC were the management firms that were paid a management fee and "made virtually no profit, since it existed to pay salaries and expenses." I think you're wrong. "Bain Capital" was actually not one company but a succession of investment funds. Those funds typically were set up as limited partnerships or LLCs. I think you will find that in each fund, Bain Capital, Inc. or Bain Capital, LLC, served as the general partner (in a limited partnership) or managing member (in an LLC). The limited partners or non-managing members, are the people or companies who are investing in the fund. Their involvement is passive--they supply money and they get a return. The general partner or managing partner, runs the investments and makes the decisions.
Often times, an investment group will serve both as the general partner and also invest as a limited partner, sometimes through a separate corporate entity. The "management fee" is not simply to pay salaries and expenses, but is to compensate the manager--in this case Bain Capital--for its role in making the investment successful.
That is the outrage of the "hedge fund manager" tax loophole that allows the managers to be taxed at the 15% capital gain rate, simply because they are taking a cut from the passive investors, when it is supposedly their knowledge, experience, business acumen and actual labor, which generates the profits (i.e., they should be taxed as wage-earners, just like you and me.
It looks like maybe the SEC and Massachusetts regulatory documents were simply a lack of sloppy paperwork by Bain. But the documents identify Romney as President, CEO and Sole Owner (or Member if an LLC). I've been a business litigator for 25 years and I do not believe that the public documents satisfactorily answer these questions (and I have looked at them). I think the "fact checkers" are jumping to conclusions. I'd love to ask Romney, If you weren't President and CEO, who was? Looks to me like they didn't bother making the formal change for years. And he was still the sole owner. So tell me he wasn't communicating with the guys he left behind about what they were doing with his money. I'm sure they had telephones, fax machines and email in Utah. Or don't you know how business really works?
The Mitter's can carry a tune lol. We should vote him in as President lol.
NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember these?
LIES!!!!
THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
"I promise 100% transparency in my administration.".
"I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.".
"I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.".
"I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.".
"I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.".
"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
"I'll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who isat the table!".
"I'll have no lobbyists in my administration."
"I'll close Guantanamo."
"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
"I'll unite the people of this great country."
VOTE NObama 2012!!
You prefer R(money) to President Obama?
you must be very young Mr guy lol because you obviously don't understand how things work. You must also be blind to all the damage McConnell & Cantor (others also but those are the main contenders) did to stop progress. Remember their only goal in 4 years was to remove Obama from office no matter what it takes. That means making the American people suffer like YOU AND ME so why are YOU fighting!?! Your own party betrayed you trusting them to help you and your childrens future.
There have been no new taxes for families making under $250,000 a year. In fact, President Obama has CUT taxes for the middle class 18 times in 3.5 years. We have the lowest tax rate under any President in 30 years. Quit yer bellyaching. I tried to make a list of all the lies and flip-flops ROMNEY has made - and it was so long it wouldn't take it. Your argument rings very false with the Republicans fighting the President every step of the way on EVERY issue. Even the issues that were legislation that THEY WROTE and THEY SPONSORED. They simply wouldn't agree with the President even on their own ideas. Yet he still brought us Fair Pay For Women and eliminated DADT and brought us home from Iraq and saved the Auto Industry and Banking Industry and kept down Student Loan Rates and started Consumer Protection Bureau to protect citizens from credit card fraud and started to reign in regulation on a rampantly out-of-control Wall Street, signed new trade agreements, killed Osama Bin Laden and created Affordable Healthcare - all without ANY Republican support. What's Romney done lately?
As far as I can see, you are correct!! As far as Romby saying that the President is "Being mean to him in his political ads" Romby and the GOP have done nothing but bash the President for 3 and 1/2 years that includes more lies than I have EVER heard in my entire life!!!!!!!!!!!!
As President he has been more transparent then most. What new taxes are you talking about? He has kept the Bush tax cuts in place. How many bills has he signed? And how do you know he hasn't allowed 5 days for comment before signing? You been up is ass? Have you been closely reading every bill he has signed to the point your know this as fact? I don't know for sure but as for elderly and taxes I know I don't pay any because if income. As for the rest as well as the above he in most cases can not alone make decisions. Congress has to agree to it ant then send it to him to sign. But since congress is in control by the party on no a lot of what needs to be done doesn't get done. As for lobbyist not being in his administration how do you know there is any? Most lobbying goes down on the congress floor where the bills are written not at the white house. So I'm sure you will be voting for Romney because I don't think your smart enough to vote for the President.
If the President didn't have to deal with the ignorant Republicans in the House, a lot would have been done. They have blocked him from many things that would have helped the American people, but they listen to that racist little man with the little Johnson Mitch McConnell and the in the closet gay man Eric Canton, rather than help the American people and we will not forget any of it come election day.
b113, I guess you like being told what to think and do by a guy who dresses up in his own Michigan State trooper Unifrom and rides his prancing pony, buy up companies, mortgage them to the hilt, fire everyone and let the tax payers pickup the tag for looted pension funds. Mitt walks away with hundreds of millions in profit while real people are unemployed and their communites take an economic hit.
Mitt's plan for America? MORE tax breaks for the rich, close public schools and privatize them, privatize prisons and toss everyone, who can't pay into them.
I can go on..but, I'm why waste my time.
It's a matter of public record. You can track the time from when Congress presents a bill to the president and when it is signed.
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/bills_res.html
sheikwil - isn't it just horrible when things like the constitution and elections get in the way of your candidate taking over and ruling this country? it really is just a horrible inconvenience....
just saying...
b113, you can't just put something in quotes and make it come out of someone's mouth. First of all, most of those are misquotes of THE PRESIDENT OBAMA by Faux News and are only quotes of Righties. Secondly, OBAMA is not God; he can't do anything alone and when the Can't'-serve-it-tives use ONE Senator to block every vote the President and the Dems request, he can't make it happen on his own.
Third, I know you can't possibly believe any of these lies you are PAID to post. To hold a PRESIDENT's feet to the fire for not achieving the GOALS he set for Congress, is ludicrous. He has come closer to ALL of those goals than all of the previous presidents put together.
1. He has been more of an open book than any other President. He is the most honest, genuine and earnest person that has ever run for President much less been elected.
2. He never requested any new taxes on the middle class and can't be held responsible for the taxes the Re-Can's shoved down our throats to cut our taxes 18 times, not to mention the savings to the middle class in the ACA through closing the donut hole, eliminated pre-existing, allowing Medicare to negotiate pharmaceutical prices and removing $5 billion of profit to drug companies given to them in Medicare Part D by GW Bush and NOT paid for, giving grants to small businesses to hire people on unemployment and to pay for health insurance for their employees, kept student loan rates at 3.4% instead of 6.8% ... shall I go on?
3. The Repukes have been on a campaign that you have outed with this list. They take the list of what Obama said he would do and purposely and with vengeance have set out to deny him the ability to do every one of the things on your list of quotes from the right wing that twisted things Obama said. So when the righties drag their feet for months and months at a time, wasting $33 million a day and precious time by voting down the ACA 33 times and getting little or nothing accomplished for four years, it is by their own making that Obama decided not to wait FIVE days to enact the legislation the contraservatives have wasted 500 days trying to prevent. We support him in CHANGING HIS MIND IN THE INTEREST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE which your cash clowns wouldn't even consider.
4. To blame Obama alone for all of the PORK the tea party freaks, the gun fanatics, the abortion obssessionists, the pharmaceutical patsies, the banksters, the outsourcers, insurance maggots, the women-haters, the homophobes, the environmental rapists,the healthcare sickies and the oil barrens (no typo) pack on bills just to get a few roads and bridges repaired, create scant amounts of jobs, keep student loans down to the prime rate so the govt and banksters aren't making PROFITS off of college students, and require the insurance opportunists to spend more on paying healthcare bills of insureds than they use to line their Swiss bank accounts, is ignorant, uninformed, unfair and ridiculous.
5. Blaming OBAMA because the Conserva-kooks who control the House and therefore the budget, would rather focus on denying seniors their right to vote and destroying Medicare and Social Security while they are cutting seniors off from the rest of us by trying to help the pharmaceutical creatons make huge profits off of them, re-open their donut holes, deny their free preventative care and limit their access to post offices and the infrastructure of America instead of helping Obama give them a tax break is typical of you Faux-Noise headshakers.
6. When Obama actually got into office and saw that Bushee left him a far bigger mess than was communicated to the public, and it took the President longer to clean it up than he thought, trying to blame Obama for taking longer to get us out of Iraq, actually kill bin Laden and bow out gracefully while improving our relationship with the world community, is using fancy hocus-pocus magical tricks of psychological misdirection and cognitive illusion straight out of the Penn & Teller handbook. The righties tie his hands and feet behind his back and then cry foul when he can't clean up the mess. That's a joke, right?
Btw, President Obama killed Osama bin Laden AND ended the unnecessary and illegal war in Iraq ... however long it took was faster than what Bush and his cronies did while they were in office. The argument that GW could have done it if he had more time just works against you cuz it says he could of ended it if he wanted to but...
He also TRIED to close Guantanamo but the Republican'ts in the Senate blocked him at every turn and now make fun of him for not doing it. Just like the schoolyard bullies who block every exit and mock the smart kid who can't get home!
7. The whole crux of cutting the deficit in half was raising the incremental tax rate by 4% on the TAXABLE PROFIT of more than a quarter of a MILLION dollars and investing in the country's workforce to fix roads and bridges, create jobs in alternative energy and invest in extending our information network to all areas of the country. The Congress has to raise the money to cut the deficit by investing in the middle class and letting us create a robust economy.
The government is NOT a profit center; it is NOT a business and we don't need a PROFITEER, corporate rapist/opportunist/raider to run the country. We don't have investors to put ahead of the needs of workers and middle class Americans.
President Obama HAS united the country. He has United us AGAINST Romney!
VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 ... THEY'LL KEEP THE LIGHT ON FOR YOU!
Yes...I don't have the time to dissect your post point by point, that would take way to long,,,but I will say this because of how you insulted the fine members of our military with one of your statements...
Obama did not kill Bin Laden...if you want to say that he authorized the operation which ended up in the death of Bin Laden, I will not argue with you on that point and I actually commend President Obama for making that decision. But to say that he killed Bin Laden is a direct slap in the face of the men from Seal Team Six who actually put their lives on the line when they invaded that compound and took Bin Laden out...
just saying...
It's FANTASTIC. Hit's Mitt for being a lousy singer while hitting him for his Bain record. It fires on all cylinders.
The ad had nothing really to do with him singing bad sorry you missed the msg :)- that was a bonus
I love the ad, Mitt is off key on the music and his message!
OBAMA/BIDEN 20112
Excellent message...........................Horrible Singing!
OBAMA 1012!!
It's a great ad! I hope it will be really, really effective. Since the Prez has less money than Mr. Bottomless Pit, he needs to make every ad spectacular!
I think it's a great ad. Showing the news sources for the comments proves these allegations are not those of the President but the actual way this "Patriot" does business and his total lack of concern for the good of this country and her people.
I love the ad also! best since Christine O'Donnell (no relation to Lawrence) "I'm not a witch ad" lol
This is the slap in the face (with a frying pan full of truth) the R(money) campaign deserves.
If Romney, the Patriot, wants all of this to go away, why doesn't he just release more tax returns, say 1998 to the present? I'd like to know where he and his accountant stashed his $ all over the world. The buck stops with Mitt so quit acting like he had nothing to do with where his $ was invested, i.e., Switzerland, Cayman, etc.
I caught this ad on TV this morning, first the singing made me laugh. But the messages transposed with the words of the song made a striking point. It tells me that Romney wants us to think he is all-American (he even knows the words to a great patriotic song) but his actions, which he will neither defend nor deny truly show that he lacks a commitment to this country.
;)
Fact checkers debunk Obama claim
...because Romney found loophole in the space-time continuum and "retired retroactively", and therefore wasn't responsible for the actions of Bain between 1999 and 2002, even though in the 2000, 2001 and 2002 S.E.C. filings he was listed as "President, Chairman of the Board, Sole Owner and Sole Stockholder". And even though in a 2002 interview with the Boston Globe, when being questioned as to whether he REALLY was a Massachusetts resident to run for Governor, he stated that he got back to MA all the time - for holidays and for Bain Board Meetings. 2002. He can't just etch-a-sketch his comments away, they're in black and white, along with his SIGNATURE stating he was President of the company through 2002. As much as Romney would like to make it so, even rich people aren't allowed to "retroactively retire" and erase their responsibility. I know he doesn't think he has to follow the same rules as us little people - and wants to change his stories and standings on issues all the time, but we have things now like video tape and copies of old newspapers that show the truth - not the etch-a-sketch version he is so fond of. ROMNEY IS EVEN OUTSOURCING THE CONFERENCE CALLS IN HIS CURRENT CAMPAIGN. He can't seem to learn the lesson to at least LOOK like you'd create jobs in the U.S. - he just can't RESIST OUTSOURCING - it's in his blood. Too bad releasing tax returns isn't - his own Dad said "one year could be a fluke" and released 12 years. What are you hiding Mitt? If it was all on the up and up - you'd just release them and end the questions and suspicions.
#10.1, Long time since I've heard the term, "space-time continuum"! College? (Dark ages) LOL
I don't believe he will release his tax records as he is hiding too many things. The problem, as I see it, is, he (and I think, rightly) believes that it won't matter. While I think he is a dolt, I think he is smart enough to know that he ISN'T OBAMA! Therefore, he figures the GOP doesn't have to love him as their hatred for Obama is so virulent!
I think he is going on that assumption, that he will sail into the White House on the heels of hate, and needn't do anything he doesn't want to.
Like show us what a greedy crook he is.
b113 - You have the Obama Administration confused with the Republican Party - Republicans lie, cheat, steal, and rig elections by voter supression. Republicans can't win an election honestly if their life depended on it.
We should pray for those that have been brainwashed or who simply don't care who they hurt.
B113 has no idea what he is talking about! lol You know how republicans are ,they can only retain the last 5 minutes of political information lol
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romney-and-his-departure-from-bain/2012/07/12/gJQAASzUfW_blog.html#pagebreak
vote NObama 2012!
Check out CNN finance. We all know what a right wing tool they are.
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/07/12/mitt-romney-bain-exit/
We will just wait til he releases all his tax records for that period, that should clarify things. Meantime, his name was on record as the CEO, President and sole shareholder of Bain in that period. What is Mitt afraid of?
Unless you started paying attention yesterday you would know Obama had done a lot better the most
The ONLY thing Osama Obama has done is ruin this country.
After what the Repugnant Swift Boaters and other creations of Carl Rove have done, this is quite mild and factual. It actually gives Willard another opportunity after his loss in November; he can enter American Idle, or even buy the program......
b113... try and keep up with the class.
MORE LIES From Obama "
All the Rethugliklans are crying about how unfair it is to bring up Mittens records at Bain.First Mittens says he stands on his business record so lets see ALL of it and ask questions.Second Unfair????!!!! this from the party of Karl Rove and Newt Gingrich and the infamous "Plumbers". And last Mittens wants an election on the issues fine get rid of all the racists calling themseves "Birthers"
Lord have mercy on all of us. The Obama lie and attack machine is on fire and if the GOP and the demorcrats doesn't stop it, 4 years from now the the US will be bankrupt and unreconizable. If Obama gets re-elected with the votes from the American people who owe him because all of his base is on some sort of government program then we are a doomed country. We, all of us, democrats and republicans must stop him, or you will have to live in a world where you will have no savings, no jobs no house as you do now. It will not get any better, it will be the same or worse as we are today. Nothing positive coming from our President, only attacks on a good man who has done nothing wrong. Shame on you Obama.
I'm glad Obama is giving the republicans a little taste of their own medicine.
Obama/Biden 2012
Now, when will Mitt release those tax records for those years?
wow so true... dave..
vote NObama 2012!!
Check for your self...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romney-and-his-departure-from-bain/2012/07/12/gJQAASzUfW_blog.html#pagebreak
vote NObam 2012!
Nope, I don't believe it until I see Mitts tax returns for those years. The FACT is that Mitt is listed as CEO, Pres and sole shareholder during that time. If someone holding those titles isn't responsible, who is?
Check for YOURSELF why wasn't he listed as passive?
current.com/shows/the-war-room/blog/footnotes-in-romney-filings-show-he-was-active-at-bain-long-after-1999
After the Repugnant-produced Swift Boaters and all of the Rove slime that have been around for the last dozen years or more, this ad is mild in comparison. It also gives Willard something to try after his November loss...he can go audition for a Fox program such as American Idle, or even buy the network from Murdoch, who might not be needing it much longer........
FACT : Romney would make the Bush tax cuts for wealthy Americans permanent that would add $5 Trillion (to the deficit if not paid for) in new tax cuts weighted toward the wealthiest. Imagine how he would pay for it - steal from the middle-class by ending medicare, medicaid, and social security. Romney himself said, nothing is free.
FACT : President Obama would extend tax cuts for 98% of Americans and return rates for the wealthiest to what they were in the Clinton era.
Because you have more wealth than 98% of the country does NOT give you the right to pay less taxes than those that don't. MAN-UP and pay your fair share - I promise you, you will still have enough to live the rest of your life in comfort. When does the greed stop ?? If you don't wanna pay your fair share, then leave this country for good.
I agree 100%. The wealthiest people in this country have enjoyed the lowest taxes in history for the past 10 years. Now that they've had their fun and made their millions, it's time to get things back to normal.
Romney recently said "no more free stuff". I hope that includes subsidies to oil companies. According to Romney, if "Corporations are people too" then I hope we can do something about THEIR taxes as well!
ChuckBlanton, You are so right! It is not just unfair, it is counter-productive to the economy. We need tax revenue and the GOP wants to starve the government so the states cannot operate properly. It is madness.They want to take away teachers, firefighters, and police.
Now they're saying they won't accept free medicaid for the poor. That's beyond stupid and immoral, and will hurt the economy of their states.
The GOP mantra: Any sacrifice for the rich, nothing for the poor.
I absolutely LOVE that ad. It is short and to the point ... He's not the solution he's the problem. That says it all.
Love it!
I love the ad - it lets Romney's record sing a different tune. LOL! And for people who keep posting the links in support of Romney on this matter, it's interesting that you think your news source is credible but all of the ones in the ad are not. Hmmm??
Chuck, you are nuts, the richest 2% pays almost all the taxes that come into the US Treasury. 58% of all Americans pay no income tax at all. So when you and your friends say Obama wants to cut taxes for the 98% then how can you explain that 58 % of those 98% people pay no tax as it is. How can you cut taxes to someone who does not even pay taxes. It is just another scheme Obama uses to play class warfare and you people fall for it. Trust me, once this middle tax tax hike comes after Obama lures you in, you will be singing a different tune and looking around wondeing what happened to your beloved savior Obama who promised to rescue you. After you sink and get a prospective we will take you in and save you.
And then there is the real world where loop holes and other GOP tax gimmicks have people like Mittens paying 15% on their taxes. Really Fox news is not your friend and really you need to go back to school an get educated.
Dave (bunch of silly numbers) - Anyone that does the bidding of the wealthiest by regurgitating the worn out Republican mantra, "the richest 2% pays almost all the taxes… blah, blah, blah" is only fooling half-wits, such as themselves, that are looking for some lame-ass excuse for justifying greed at the expense of everyone else.
The Survey of Consumer Finances, sponsored by the Federal Reserve Board*, provides data from 1983. The data shows that wealth is concentrated in the hands of a small number of families. The wealthiest 1% of families owns roughly 34.3% of the nation's net worth, the top 10% of families owns over 71%, and the bottom 40% of the population owns way less than 1%.
If you apply a sliding scale, you'll will find that the percentage of taxes relative to income paid by those on the lower rung has a profound impact on basic sustainability, while those at the top find it no more than a slight annoyance.
On a personal note, what makes trolls afraid to use their actual names?
Link to data source was deleted: federalreserve dot gov/econresdata/scf/scfindex dot htm
So then the right wants to raise taxes then?
So then most people don't pay federal income taxes, which still means they do pay some taxes it's literally inavoidable, so that's bad. But Obama wants to raise taxes on the 98% who mostly don't pay taxes....shouldn't you be happy then isn't he making pay like you want to?
In your quest to be 1000% against Obama you've made no since at all
The top 10% or so do pay most of the federal tax dollars but they have most of the money in the country so that's appropriate isn't it?
"Who do you think should pay more in taxes the millionaire or the bus driver?"-Ronald Reagan
Derek...the same thing that stops the libs from using their real names on this site...crazy nut cases from either side who could explode at any time and track you down because they simply do not like your point of view...
just saying
Stormguy - With free speech comes the responsibility of owning up to what one espouses, whether right or wrong. The ones that spew hate are cowards and liars, and therefore have something to hide. I'm too old to use a nom de plume. Besides, I keep a shovel and a roll of duct tape in the trunk of my car ;) Peace brother.
Instead of a shovel and duct tape, I keep a .38 special and a 12 gauge in my vehicle. However, with the nuts I have seen from BOTH sides of the issues on this board and others, I can not protect my family at all times and I honestly believe that there are people who would try to harm them because of a difference in opinion.
just saying....