Two weeks after the Supreme Court ruled that President Barack Obama's health care law was constitutional, the Republican-led House voted 244-185 today to repeal it.
It was the 33rd time in 18 months that the GOP House majority has tried to scrap, defund or scale back the law. Democrats control the Senate, so actual repeal won't happen this year.
While Republicans vow to "repeal and replace" Obamacare someday, they still aren't saying what they'd replace it with.
Before today's vote, Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) mocked the absence of a healthcare replacement bill from Republicans.
Green held a copy of the 2,000-plus-page Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act in his left hand, and the GOP's "invisible" plan to fix healthcare in his right hand. It is hilarious!:
In remarks delivered on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives on July 11, 2012, Rep. Al Green criticized Republican efforts to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act without offering an alternative.
"This is the replacement bill," he said, looking at his empty hand, "and they want me to be sure that I understand the replacement bill before I vote to repeal."
"So what I'd like to do now, for all within the sound of my voice and who are viewing this, I want to read the replacement bill," he said mockingly. "I shall read the replacement bill -- let me just read half of it first. I shall now read one half of the replacement bill."
After a silent pause of a few seconds, Green then said, "Now, I shall read the other half of the replacement bill (insert another silent pause here)"
To ward off complaints that he reads too fast, Green read the entire "invisible" bill again (silently pausing again), and asked that the bill be placed in the Congressional Record.
"I'm going to ask that I be allowed to place the replacement bill in the record," he said. "Thank you, Mr. Speaker."
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Republicans are trying to make the sound you hear when one hand is clapping.
This is all about the KKK taking control of congress.
GOP Healthcare " Replacement Plan ' !
First dig a really big ditch in every State in the Union and then :
Shove all poor people who are ill and diseased with no healthcare insurance in the ditch and let them die.
Shove all children who are ill and diseased with no health care insurance in the ditch and let them die.
Shove all old people who are ill and diseased with no health care insurance in the ditch and let them die.
Shove all workers who are ill and diseased with no health care insurance in and let them die.
Shove all foreigners who are ill and diseased with no health care insurance in the ditch and let them die.
Then declare a National Day Of Thanks Be To God that he let all of the useless eaters ( and not rich, fat, gun-toting, racist, homophobic, women hating, religious fanatic, white guys and their oppressed families ) who were ill and diseased with no health insurance die.
Praise the Lord and pass the ammo ( and the KY ) forward please !
GOP doesn't need a plan! Get the government out of our pockets and let up decide if we want health care and if we do where to buy it for our selves. Quit regulating state lines and let competition determine pricing.
@chemdmd,
You always come up with the best jokes.
Bush and Cheney said the exact same thing shortly before bankrupting the social security trust fund and committing the US to borrowing money from communist china.
Bush and Cheney were commie lovers. They loved getting into bed with them.
@chemdmd To let ppl chose their health insurance, well that is what PBO want to do. He just is telling you that if you don't want to buy insurance, ok but you cannot put your hands in OUR pocket if you get sick.
But there is a lot of ways to do that. If you get sick and owe the hospitals or doctors, you will not be permitted to go into bankruptcy. It will be as an equity you will still owe it. Right now every time a person goes into bankrupcy because of a health issue, his credit rating goes down which makes it almost impossible to come clean. Well this will help those. It is not as if it is going to be expensive.
Insurance companies will make up in volume what they don't do in high premiums. They will not be able to charge more than what they really need to operate.
Remember, this law is "not written in stone", we can work on it until it is good even for you. Of course I would like the public option. What congress has that we all pay for with our taxes.
those DAMN REPUKES. I am so sick and tired of their lack of compassion, epmpathy and anything else that fits. LET'S AMKE SURE EVRYONE GETS OUT AND VOTES AND GET RID OF THIS GARBAGE.
oops, MAKE
oh ho-lee-cow. you are so cluless about this.quit thinking of this law as ROMNEY CARE/OBAMA CARE and call it what it is AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT. then go look up the link called AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR DUMMIES (ACA) then read what they have put out there for us to read. It is written in simple terms, that even my 9 and 11 yr.old nephews understand. Also, you have to keep an open mind when reading it,then it's easier to understand.
ho=lee-cow you are so full of @!$%#. all your spouting is what the repukes put out there. these "FACTS" of yours is nothing but lies. Go watch C_SPAN for the actual TRUTH from these liars and OBSTRUCTIONISTS right from their mouths.
I wonder why does the GOP leadership think that if Government stops spending "job creators" will start creating jobs by magic. What does "job creators" have to do who government. This is not a fascist country. The money spent by government is not attached to the pocket of "job creators". Taxes are taxes. WE all have to pay them. Unless of course we have enough to have all our savings overseas.
chemdmd wrote:
GOP doesn't need a plan! Get the government out of our pockets and let up decide if we want health care and if we do where to buy it for our selves. Quit regulating state lines and let competition determine pricing.
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Gee, I thought the GOP was all about State's rights, such as how to regulate the insurance industry in their State. It is not the Federal Govt. that is preventing buying insurance across State lines, it is the Insurance Commission in each of the 50 States and the District of Columbia. Do you want to take away their State's rights?
The same GOP who PREemted the STATE supreme court of Florida to select GW as president in 2004?
The GOP has a plan, problem, the democrats can't read very well when it comes to bills from across the isle.
And take a look at how "Thick" that HCR bill is, loaded with tax increases and regulations that will reduce the level of care.
One tax is to tax the very companies that make the equipment that saves life's!!!
That is the stupist thing I have ever heard off. Cut off the head to cure the headache.
You watch too much Fox news ho-lee-cow...The republicans have no plan nor will they ever if it doesn't mean padding someones pockets...
@ho-lee-****,
Kindly post the link to the document to show the rest of us you are not lying.
Hint.
Use Thomas for your search (click here).
Happy hunting.
GOP has a plan, go to the web site.
But you liberals do not like the GOP plan so in your mind there is no plan.
@ho-lee-christ!,
Link? I don't see a link.
I see blue sky.
Instructions:
Again.
Happy hunting.
Path to Prosperity
Our government has a spending problem—a problem so large that it is driving up our debt, hurting our nation’s ability to create jobs, and threatening our future. In the past, Washington has not been truthful about the magnitude of these problems facing our country, but we can no longer afford to put off an honest, fact-based conversation on how to solve them. Unless we act soon, government spending on health and retirement programs will crowd out spending on all other government programs, including national security, and, eventually, will consume every cent of every federal tax dollar.
No one person or party is responsible for the looming crisis. Yet the facts are clear: major spending increases have failed to deliver promised jobs. The safety net for the poor is coming apart at the seams. Government health and retirement programs are growing at unsustainable rates. The new health care law has created a tremendous fiscal burden, and a complex, inefficient tax code is holding back American families and businesses.
The House-passed budget repeals the President’s disastrous new health care law and protects the health and retirement security of those who need it. With the creation of Medicare in 1965, the United States made a commitment to help fund the medical care of elderly Americans to ensure that a serious illness would not exhaust their life savings or the assets and incomes of their working children and younger relatives.
Medicare’s structural imbalance threatens beneficiaries’ access to quality, affordable care. A flaw in the structure of the program is driving up health care costs, which are, in turn, threatening to bankrupt the system – and ultimately the nation. Unless Congress fixes what’s broken in Medicare, without breaking what’s working, the program will end up causing exactly what it was created to avoid – millions of American seniors without adequate health security and a younger working generation saddled with enormous debts to pay for spending levels that cannot be sustained.
It is morally unconscionable for elected leaders to cling to an unsustainable status quo with respect to America’s health and retirement security programs. Current seniors and future generations deserve better than empty promises and a diminished country. Current retirees deserve the benefits around which they organized their lives. Future generations deserve health and retirement security they can count on. By making gradual structural improvements, Congress can preserve America’s social contract with retired workers.
Recognizing the problems facing Medicare, the House Budget Proposal:
Allowing the federal government to break its promises to current seniors and to future generations is unacceptable. The reforms outlined in the budget passed by the House protect and preserve Medicare for those in and near retirement, while saving and strengthening this critical program so that future generations can count on it to be there when they retire.
Reforming Medicaid in the Path to Prosperity
The Congressional Budget Office estimates that federal spending on Medicaid, a program which provides medical care for the poor, will grow from $276 billion in 2013 to $622 billion by 2022. This translates into an annual growth rate of 9 percent. Should this problem continue to be ignored, Medicaid will continue to overwhelm state and federal budgets and fail the vulnerable people who need it most.
Specifically, the Path to Prosperity:
All Americans will pay more because of this broken Medicaid system – and not just in higher taxes. Because Medicaid’s reimbursement rates have been ratcheted down to below-market levels, the care that Medicaid patients receive is often substandard. Offering states more flexibility for their Medicaid beneficiaries will remove the stigma Medicaid recipients face, and allow them to take advantage of a range of options available. Several of the nation’s governors have made innovative proposals to fix Medicaid. This budget encourages further efforts in this direction.
paulrayn.house.gov
Looks like Al Green needs to learn how to read.
And maybe talk to Paul Ryan about the "GOP" health care plan.
Before he puts his foot in his mouth.
Who is paulrayn? And why does he have to speak for you?
Still waiting for an explanation of Richard Feynman's "sum over histories" theory. It's been two days.
It's funny how apparently now the Republicans have been wasting time for so long and inhaling fumes from their oil company employers they forgotten what a plan is. You know first this because of this reason not just jumpling the results. You make all these claims yet none of it actually says how it will do that.........
A plan is showing what you will do that's a talking point a plan is how
show your work instead of just copying paul ryan's talking points
I am sure you have a great understanding of quantum mechanics.
Another name is sum-over-paths.
@ho-lee-what?,
The URL for link you posted isn't active in the IANA database so it looks like a fake link.
Which of the following does the Paul Ryan plan talk about since you seem to have a copy of the document?
The Affordable Care Act reduces the deficit and increases jobs, so repealing it will increase taxes and unemployment.
Most of "ObamaCare" is under 42 C.F.R.
None of that information is mentioned in your post.
Another name for you would be ho-lee-phony.
@ho-che-min,
You should run your URL links through one of the domain registry services before posting.
Posting a link to fake sites makes it look like you are trying to spread virus.
"the democrats can't read very well when it comes to bills from across the isle."
Yes, the Republicans are so detached from reality they really are on their own island.
The "STUPIST" THING is that all those companies who you say makes the equipment receives money from the tax payers in subsidies and Research & Development grants. But when their research is done the patents become privatize and only the wealthy can afford treatments because they are so greedy testing done with them is too expensive. Only their CEOs and their share holders benefit from those subsidies and the tax payers like you and I get zilch. They don't even want to pay taxes.
Well, he is.
The Republican party are so full of nothing for the American people. 32 times they have voted on this and wasted billions of tax dollars why they have sang the same old worn out song of repeal, filibuster or just plain do nothing. If they had spent half as much time on jobs bill as they have abortion and health care . But they haven't and here we are 4 years later with the bums ! Throw them out!
Good grief.
paulryan.house.gov
Ever hear of a type-o????
Everything you write is a typo.
If there are those of you who care to compare the GOP healthcare plan to the Affordable Healthcare plan you can compare, at this site. I should tell you though that the GOP plan is more of an outline than a real plan. It will probably take you as long to read it as Al Green.
Gollum ? Gollum is that you AGAIN ? There is a foul smell on the air once again.
Ditto.
I smell troll.
Hehehehehe . . . I knew you would get that reference Crackhead !
@ho-lee-cow: Your copy and paste does not make you any smarter. Opinions of conservatives with an interest does not help you at all. If you read the Ryan Plan even a few pages you will see that the poor who does not pay taxes right now because, of course they can't afford it will end up paying over 5% and the bottom 85% who shares only 7% of the wealth will pay more in taxes while the top 20% who controls 93% of the financial wealth of the country will pay 5% less taxes than they pay now.
Our economy is based on supply and demand. Now do like a Democrat and research what does that mean.
Then ask yourself, what will contribute to an increase in demand and what will be the effect on industry.
Democrats love to study and debate the issues and they are not easily brainwashed like the GOP base. You have been manipulated into voting against your best interests, and brainwashed into thinking that the GOP leadership love the country and its people. But the Ryan Plan proves they don't.
Now, if you research you will find out that PBO has put this country in the positive side of the graphs even with a saboteur obstructing congress. Imagine how much good he can do with a cooperative congress. Now be quiet and do your homework.
Publish the name of the five gutless democrats that voted with the tyrant republicans!!! Inform their constituents and get their worthless conservative leaning carcasses out! These gutless wonders aren't democrats!!!
I admit that they piss me off a bit too.
However, I prefer a Democratic Party that has a large tent and includes a conservative point of view.
‘This’ entire Republican Party is owned and controlled by fascist leaders who prefer the complete take over of OUR GOVERNMENT based on fabricated propaganda and lies.
A true democracy is based upon compromise according to the truth and based on facts in reality.
Today’s Republican Party has declared war on democracy and everything America stands for.
I know who they are. 2 from NC, 1 from Utah, 1 from Arkansas and 1 from Oklahoma.....
Rep. Kissell, Rep. Boren, Rep. McIntyre, Rep. Ross and Rep. Matheson
They don't have a conservative point of view. They have an insurance company's payoff in their pocket. Just like the Republicans.
exactly chris
Why are all the democrats that are against Obama from states with the most active members of KKK and domestic terrorist militia?
And why is Romney saying things in front of the NAACP to appeal to that crowd.
Nevermind.
Sorry I asked.
Of the five Democrats who broke party ranks to support repeal, two — Reps. Dan Boren (Okla.) and Mike Ross (Ark.) — are conservatives who are not running for reelection. Three others — Reps. Larry Kissell (N.C.), Jim Matheson (Utah) and Mike McIntyre (N.C) — are facing tough reelection battles. Matheson had previously opposed a repeal but switched his position in the face of a difficult challenge from Mia Love, mayor of Saratoga Springs, Utah.
cwynn~That's what I heard too and since this wasn't a REAL vote that was going to make any difference, I guess they thought they'd vote that way in hopes of getting re-elected again, so they would still be in Congress to vote with the Dems when it really counts.
Yea, the GOP has a plan alright, if you get sick, just hurry up and die quickly!
Filthy swines!
Why is it Repubs would do anything to keep from helping poor people, but don't mind forking over millions to big Oil, big Ag, etc. in subsidies?? Why is that, all you trolls??
Because only in the Foxaganda world does it make sense to give more money to the rich in hopes that they will work harder, and take more money from the poor so that they will work harder.
There are two kinds of Republicans. The rich and the stupid. The rich work to keep the stupid, stupid. The stupid work to keep the rich, rich.
Listen up GOP morons!!!
Every governmental entity has mandates you nitwits! Car insurance, homeowners insurance, etc., etc., etc.!!! Why aren't any of you ignoramuses against those mandates? The health insurance mandate is for those freeloaders that don't buy insurance! They cost all taxpayers money when they get sick and don't pay their hospital bills! You and I pay these bills, you bunch of feckless daft fools! Now they will be forced top pay their own with the insurance they get!
Wrong again ...
if you don't owe money on a house, you don't have to have insurance.
If you don't drive a car, you don;t have to have insurance.
If you don't own money to a finance company on your vehicle, you do not have to have collision insurance.
The car insurance that you are required to buy in order to operate a vehicle on the road is not to protect you, it is to protect everyone else around you.
Everyone is required to buy insurance, even the people who can afford to pay their bills without insurance...
just saying..
Car insurance & homeowners insurance is "liability" insurance.
Health insurance is not "liability".
What a laugh you are. Here is a clue Auto insurance is mandated in case you have an accident, but not everyone gets into accidents so they spend a life time paying for something they never had. Health on the other hand there are no people that get through life without getting sick so if you don't have single payer then you are stuck trying to force people into buying health insurance or watch the rates go up because people without health insurance show up in the emergency room leaving those with insurance to pick up the tab. Oh and there was a time when auto insurance was not mandatory.
And who by chance pays for the people's emergency care costs when they don't have insurance...hmmm who pays for that.....I'll give you a hint it isn't them
In your quet to be a thousand percent against everything remotely related to Obama you've trashed the conservative idea of the individual mandate and advocated for freeloading.
thats what these 'intellectuals' don't comprehend. the law was written to keep people from using the emergency room as their healthcare insurance. they whine constantly about paying for other peoples care but dont seem to be able to grasp this concept. good grief.
here here ROMAN
"if you don't owe money on a house, you don't have to have insurance.
If you don't drive a car, you don;t have to have insurance.
If you don't own money to a finance company on your vehicle, you do not have to have collision insurance."
if you don't want to stay healthy and get medical care, you don't need health insurance. Let's provide an option that says if you can't prove you have insurance and can't post a cash retainer, then you don't get treated. Very similar to the GOP plan that says don't get sick or you die.
Its not a tax on healthcare its a tax on freeloaders who weren't paying but using; It would be like calling a speeding ticket a driving ticket.
I have to buy health insurance just because I'm alive?! What's next? I have to buy auto insurance just because I drive everywhere.
These are two of my favorite expressions of the healthcare rationalizations.
He has to be a kid 16 to 21 years of age to post what he posted. People get sick no matter what age they are. Now the thing he doesn't grasp is there are working people out there that don't earn enough to buy themselves insurance and they can't afford to go to a doctor so they try to cure minor illnesses with over the counter meds or home remedies until the illness forces them into an emergency room by which time they need more then a simple shot or a prescription for stronger then over the counter drugs to cure them and because of the cost of emergency room treatment they can not afford that bill so guess who gets stuck with it, the people with insurance and the tax payer. Stupid jerks don't get sick or if you do die quickly, wtf talk about death panels, they are.
Donna...and what about the people who are being forced to buy healthcare insurance that did not game the system? Why should they be forced to buy a product or pay a tax?
just saying..
Al Green was adamant in saying his message was not for people who are not going to get sick.
He was also precise in his reading of the GOP replacement plan for the AFA after the AFA is repealed.
His attempt to educate his audience, that going back to "The way we were", was absolutely not sustainable and, thus, not an option, was totally correct.
It has been iterated here that we end up paying for the uninsured anyway when they are treated in hospital emergency rooms. This is true, as far as it goes. The problem is, if it is not an actual emergency, then you, as a patient in need of treatment, are screwed.
Thirty one votes and NOT ONE JOB CREATED!
Americans need jobs and DO-NOTHING-REPUBLICANS in Congress have been wasting our time for over three years with bogus and stupid illegitimate "votes" that DO NOTHING for any of US!
They are a disgrace to America.
These ridiculous and radical Republicans have proven that they do NOT WORK FOR AMERICA OR HER PEOPLE!
'This' Republican Party is jumping at the opportunity of doing all the dirty work that certain corporations and certain crooks on Wall Street bid them .
'This' REPUBLICAN PARTY who shows us EVERY SINGLE DAY, that they prefer to worship their own DEPRAVED form of "CAPITALISM" rather than actually DO THE WORK OF their own country and her people!
Finally!!!
Someone else gets the joke.
Well, voting for something that won't happen is more fun than sitting around doing nothing at all, which is how they usually spend their days.
And it's a break from passing abortion bills that are already law.
Yea, look at that picture of Al Green. Boy, I will bet you if Obama were white, he wouldn't be up there. That is all its about. Face up to it.
Five dems voted with the GOP.
Oh, by the way....what about all of these dems who are not going to the big party in Charlotte? THEY DON'T WANT TO BE SEEN WITH OBAMA.
Are you lefties proud of that? You guys are falling apart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yea, I am writing here too as well as the next section that big Ed put about Mit Romney getting boos at the NAACP speech when he said he was going to repeal Obamacare. What big blowhard lying ED didn't say is he got good applaus on a lot of other statements he made.
HEY...AT LEAST ROMNEY WENT TO MAKE A SPEECH TO THE NAACP WHERE WAS OBAMA?
You lefties are a big joke!!!!!
......It's the NAACP and Obama sent his surrogate, who got a better reception than Mitt Romney did. Mitt Romney has nothing to run on, but alot of stuff to run from. You are a joke and you know that is the truth. Stop trolling, it make you look trashy.
Johnny we get it your nominee sucks and you guys decided to pick him over someone with actual principles who can only run attack ads while running from his ever growing list of past contradictory statements. We get that and you need to deal that.
He isn't conservative, he is an innovative business job creator like a Steve Jobs or Henry Ford. He has never been an average middle class individual and neither has his wife and even she is selling him out on that. Luckily I think since the primary he's stop trying to pretend otherwise since he knows independent voters aren't as easy to fool as tea party republicans.
Your nominee is a cardboard cut out who even the GOP admits it can't trust because Romney has no core. He's a coward with no plan to show the people and no record to run on.
Which record of his should we talk about his failed congressional campaigns, Bain Capitol perhaps, ooh how about Massachusetts....
Romney bussed in supporters so that it would sound like the people liked what he was saying. Like taking your own yes-men to a buisness meeting.
33 times? Republicans seem to be defining insanity!
larry, their whole platform is based on insanity.
"33" Could the mysterious number on the back of the Rolling Rock Beer now be explained?
Total waste of taxpayers money. A done deal and still beating a dead horse. All of this talk of Clinton and Reagan. You can believe that if Reagan or Clinton and let's not mention Bush passed this same bill there would not have been 33 attempts to get rid of the bill. So what does all of this tell you? This has nothing to do with the Affordable Act Care. Romney passed the same bill in a state so it is the person who is an African American who generated the bill and passed the bill into law.
The Republicans in the House reveal once again that they do not have a plan nor do they intend on actually working across the aisle in creating one.
33 times to repeal obamacare, all failed of course, that even surpasses the number of fake deregulation "jobs bills" they claim to have done. Deregulation doesn't make jobs, beating a long dead horse doesn't make good policy.
The house has succeeded only in getting the nation's credit rating lowered and being an embarrassment to the nation.
They said they would responsibly lower spending, they failed to do that.
They said they'd tackle the debt, they failed to do that.
They said they'd create jobs, they failed to do that.
They said they'd work across the aisle, they failed to do that.
name me one accomplishment the house GOP has had
Speaker Boehner where are the jobs? Keep this we're gonna really give you idiots something to cry about in november.
well in their defense cc, they did manage to name a courthouse in midland tx after gw bush but didn't have time to honor the seals who served justice on obl.
First things first!
That's funny right there, John in Texas. FUNNY.
Yeah they them some GW. Has anyone else noticed how they've sort of given up pretending they weren't down with the GW legacy?
They named a courthouse after him, he should have been in a courthouse for some of the things he did in that presidency.
lol....exactly
Don't forget that this reflects a common attitude among the right wing. Remind yourself by going to YouTube and searching for "Republican Tea Party Debate Ron Paul Answers on Health Care"
LOL...sounds like the Republican bill can only we read aloud to dogs, cause no human can hear it!!!
Rep. Green, you are right as usual. The Republicans still have too much control of the debate, however. For instance, it's been repeated on the cable-news shows (including on MSNBC) that Republican governors who opt out will drive the "poorest" to states that opt-in. Why can't smart Democrats drive this argument to its true conclusion? The ACA will immediately enrich hospitals in every state that opts in. Hospitals will be hiring doctors, nurses, x-ray technicians, janitors, everything! Medical schools in states that opt-in will have access to the best internships, and there will be lots of them! Pharmacies in pro-ACA states will thrive. Public health will thrive. If a pandemic hits, pro-ACA states will be the first to know, the first to respond, and the first to provide meaningful assistance (vaccines, etc.) to everyone in their state who needs it.
Remember that "sick" people often are surrounding by loving family that is NOT sick. So while grandma's illness might cause entire family to move, the pro-ACA state will benefit from the new pool of young, healthy workers who are members of the family.
Meanwhile, hospitals in non-ACA states will suffer. They will still have to treat anyone who shows up on their doorstep. As the total number of people they treat shrinks, their beds will remain empty. Hospitals in non-ACA states will have to lay off workers.
Property values in pro-ACA states will rise because there will be more demand for housing in those states. Schools will benefit as children get preventive healthcare.
Why are Democrats silent on these things? Are they incapable of "thinking through" what will actually happen? Shame on hospitals everywhere for not speaking out. They know full well that they will benefit, and benefit greatly, if this law remains in effect. Whether or not they speak out, Democrats need to do it!!
In other words, these Republicans are giving the Democrats a golden opportunity to contrast the ugly desperation of America without the ACA with the growing, prosperous, healthy, hopeful America that will spring to life in pro-ACA states. The truth is, many hospitals are already benefitting. The big hospital near me got permission to expand it's number of beds. It has been buzzing with construction workers. It is located in an urban area marked by a variety of ethnic groups and income classes. It possesses amazing technology and gives everyone outstanding care, and yes it provides jobs to the people in the neighborhoods that surround it. So when the talking heads on tv talk about "jobs" as being separate or different from the Affordable Care Act, I want to know wny nobody is talking about all the jobs that will be generated as this act becomes law.
AlwaysaskMom / The Dems are not saying this stuff because frankly the people wouldn't listen to it. The average american has a very limited attention span and wouldn't sit still for a 5 minute talk like you just said so well. Sad but true.
This health care law is the best thing since sliced bread. One problem its only for anerican citizens. What will the illegals do and who will pay for them?
I like to think that Barack Obama is leading us to be a better nation. In reality, I think President Obama wants all of us to look at our neighbors who have been working in our workplaces, attending our churches, serving our school PTAs, and ask ourselves, "How can we treat our Hispanic friends and neighbors as anything other than friends and neighbors?"
House Republicans are like hamsters on a treadmill, running like hell and getting nowhere with these time-wasting bills.
Go Green!
Wish they would stop wasting time. They shouldn't get paid for every time they go back over this same thing they know has ZERO chance of passing. What about the jobs bill. They are looking like idiots and sore losers.
Only because they are.
Also the mandate is because now people with pre-existing conditions have to be covered. If there isn't a mandate a lot will wait until they get sick and get Insurance even if they never paid when they were well. In order to keep cost down you can't have people waiting until they get sick to get Insurance. Insurance companies make money off the well not the sick. It would be same as if you could run out and get Auto Insurance after you have an accident. People would do that all the time. The mandate is only for people who can afford it and don't get it. If you are low income you won't have to pay. If you have Insurance you don't have to pay. The Republicans have been asked about their plan over and over. None of them have given and answer. They just say they will repeal it. All of it. Health Insurance and health care has gotten out of hand because everyone needs it. I read somewhere on line that Insurance companies paid millions to try and stop AHC. They don't want to pay for sick people. Only the well.
Oh no I assure you it gets worse the republicans don't want to pay for the sick and don't want to help people without insurance to get it, this is true. But they also want to keep the very same system o health insurance they have. The provisions in the ACA they want to end are some of the same protections that republican members of congress VOTED TO KEEP FOR THEMSELVES. They want to take those provisions from the people and want keep them for themselves.
They want to take protections from us that they aren't willing to give up aas congressmen.
Pathetic. They don't give a damn about anything but themselves.
The health care law is going to be wonderful its going to save us billions. Remember how the stimulus saved so many public sector jobs. Yet we kept hearing some that oposed it. They kept screming at the top of their lungs that it was just borrowing money to make the payroll. Well come to find out they were right and cities across this country are going belly up. All we could here is how the stimuls would save teachers, cops, firefighters etc. Ok foks the stimulus money is almost gone what we going do about these public jobs now? I got it lets borrow some more money an do another stimulus that will save a ton of jobs. At least till the money runs out again.
Yeah and lets get rid of the provisions in the affordable care act that republicans in congress decided to keep for themselves.
VERY well expressed, and I sincerely appreciate Rep. Al Green's courageous and comedic approach to illustrating the differences, as well as the facts behind the two!
The GOP never has come up with a replacement plan for the Affordable Care Act because the Affordable Care Act is a Republican idea. Mitt Romney passed a similar bill in Massachusetts six years ago. Massachusetts has a 98% insurance rate and most people have good things to say about the plan. The American people are yet to come into contact with how the Affordable Care Act will improve their lives. The ACA is a good law but it needs to be fully resourced and fully implemented to be completely effective. The GOP is like a puppy chasing its own tail. Not only do they get dizzy chasing their tails but when they catch up with themselves and bite down on their tails, the pain will hurt like hell.
Rex...you are finally right about something...Romney did pass it...AT THE STATE LEVEL. This is not a federal issue, it is something to be decided at the state level.
Yeah a great plan..it needs something like 10 years of taxes to pay for 6 years of services....wonderful..
just saying...
I could of written this health care bill on one page.......keep the kids on parents plan until age 26, no deniel over coverage including pre-existing conditions. But NOOOOOOOOOO, President Obama and the Democrat controlled congress had to over reach and create an unaffordable and unsustainable entitlement on top of two others (Medicare and Social Security) that are going broke. I'm just average guy, average income, trying to put kids through college who thought the President was going to put jobs and the economic well being of the country first, but instead he made a land grab and messed things up worse. He just plain wasted the first two years of his Presidency.
Obama will good down in history as one of the worst presidents sense Hoover.
And what entitlement would that be?
No one will be given any insurance by the government
I liked the country better when First Lady Michele Obama was still ashamed to be an American.
When blacks were murdered with impunity and were in the back of the bus.
I smell another white nationalist republican
Mock the current GOP House, and mock them, and mock them again because they have given this nation nothing except a pain in the pit of the stomach for these of us who are poor or just hanging on the edge. The Democrats (and reasonable people throughout this country) need to take back the House of Representatives, need to give the Senate back a filibuster-proof majority, and need to put Our President back into the White House. None of this right wing foolishness will reduce the deficit nor make this country stronger, but it will hurt (even kill) a lot of good people (middle class and poor) who want to make a living and raise healthy, strong, well-educated, and generous children for our future. (Don't even bother trolling me; I don't read STUPID.)