Fortune Magazine is out today with the definitive report on everything you need to know about "Fast and Furious". It's long, it's detailed and there are six months worth of reporting that went into it. The bottom line for politicos: this story is obviously a hit job coming from Issa and the rest of the GOP. It is a MUST READ.
The other must read regarding tomorrow's contempt vote and AG Holder is from Salon's Steve Kornacki, who points out that it's really the NRA versus Eric Holder. You should read the Fortune article before you get to Kornacki's, but both of these will put the "Fast and Furious" issue into perspective like never before.
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Knew it all the time. The Republicans have a vendetta! Mafia-o-so TECHNIQUES!
while i am not surprised by this witch hunt, my question is ,WHO THE HELL DOES ISSA THINK HE IS? he'sa known criminal and he really thinks he's above reproach. it will backfire in his face and the nra's also.
Crazy is contagious until mass sanity breaks out after the catastrophe.
Republicans are doing EXACTLY the same things to democrat that puritans did to witches.
I'm just hoping republicans can't figure out how to suspend democracy in the whole US like they did at the state level if Robme wins,
The matter was still under investigation. I hope ISSA now stands for
IDIOT
SABOTAGES
SAINT
AFTERALL.
I still dont know why Holder still has a job. He lied to congress on feb 2011 and it wasnt untill dec 2011 that he admitted to liying. Fast and Furious was shut down by Holder on 2010, but in feb of 2011 he knew nothing about it. Then in dec he did know about it taking back saying that he didnt know anything about it. Liying to congress is a very serious offense and since he freely admitted to liying to congress he needs to be fired at the very least. Regardless of wheather its a witch hunt are not nobody is allowed to lie to congress.
Yes - Of course = it Just ANOTHER - Republican Fault - {DEBACLE} - that THEY {STARTED} and {MESSED UP ON} and want to Point Their FUZZY little Fingers ELSEWHERE Onto Someone Else -- Ha haaa - HOW Absolutely TYPICAL of THEM - HEY !!!!!!! SERIOUSLY - THEY Create A Problem And Then Point Their Fingers Elsewhere -- HOW=TYPICAL !!!!!!!
Off subject, but I want to go on record as saying that tomorrow we'll see a 6-3 decision to keep the Affordable Care Act.
I was right about fast and furious! What a debacle, and it will backfire on these GOP extremists. Drool....drool.....can't wait to see them eat crow.
Drool....
Wow Fortune Magazine knows it all! They should have told Issa was up so we wouldn't have needed all of those hearings, where Holder had to lie, and later print retractions. What is amazing is that Holder would give 100% of the documents in question to Fortune Magazine but not to Congress.
If those documents weren't incriminating to himself, Holder would have released them. If Holder would have arrested even one person in his investigations this all would have went away.
This was an attempt by the administration to show that gun control was too loose and it back fired in their face. If it was anything else they would bring the paperwork out to prove their innocence.
Holder lied to congress how can anybody defend liyng to congress? I dont understand he freely admitted that he lied to congress. Roger Clemens just went through a trail for liying to congress and hes got nothing to do with the gov.
This was meant to embarrass Barack Obama and Eric Holder and to distract people away from the fact that they haven't done a single thing about jobs.
GWB did. Cheney did. Gonzolas did.
that's right.
we don't want any black man lying to congress.
just white men like w. bush and dick cheeeeeney.
Roger Clemens was a white baseball player he was not black. The Black pantheres were black and they got a pass from the black AG. It sure looks like Holder only goes after white people and he lets the black people off with a slap on the wrist. Just got to call out the facts here.
Another fact free moment brought to you by todays GOP lie fast and furious.
Our government is being held hostage by a bunch of right-wing extremists who have no morals, no scruples, and no damn sense. This is both a dangerous and an unprecedented situation in the history of our government and is the result of the terrorism of the T-Party GOP!!
Get them the hell OUT before they ruin our country and destroy any hope of representative Democracy prevailing in America.
Bush never testified before the Congress, so Suzette once again your facts are wrong.
Have you ever considered that the justice department is a seperate agency than the ATF or DEA, they are their own departments which are not managed by the deputy AG or the chief but to a director? Of course not.
Don't mention the fact that he gave them over 7000 documents.....the right likes to bitch about obamacare being too long which is funny since they want more documents than there are pages in that bill.....guess that too long to read thing was bs
or that Holder still doesn't know anything about it because it's still not his department. The doj is not in charge of the ATF and the ATF does not, and does not need to, consult with the AG whenever they want to use a new tactic.
Fortune magazine had no access to any secret documents in fact they didn't many of the documents if they used them at all since Fortune actually talked to actual ATF agents who told them what really happened. How is it that fortune was able to get a more detailed report than congress without having any legal powers of government? It's just a confirmation that getting to the bottom of this as the GOP pretends it would like to do does not involve the documents which have not been illegally released
if Holder released what Issa wanted to the public he would have been violating the law...............so he offered to sit down with the chairman in private to discuss it because they legally can't do this in public. Glad to see the right thinks it's okay to flat out ignore blatant breaking and abuse of the law. The voter purge, wasn't legal and they don't care....voter id broke the voting rights act....tx gop wants to repeal the voting rights act
If you care about answers why did you talk to zero ATF agencies involved who clearly showed by talking to fortune that they weren't hiding and weren't worried about testifying....in fact they wanted to speak but Issa wouldn't let them just like he didn't let a woman on the contraceptive idiocy.....
You say you have questions well what are they specifically without contradicting what I've stated actually happened according to fortune magazine who did talk to the ATF.....so name these questions...I dare you
You probably won't since you're too busy trying to claim Holder is racist. He let the new black panthers and yes there is a difference get it straight poozers.......'cuz they had no evidence to prove voter intimidation in court. Before you talk about the thirty second video go ahead and look by the door with the woman on her cell phone and tell us what skin color she has. If this white woman clearly wasn't scared by them why should grown men have been? Oh yeah they're probably little cry baby wimps. Now also tell us the number of voter intimadation cases that have resulted in a conviction
How worthless and stupid does one have to be to think a half white guy and another african american who works with whites on a daily basis with the hostilities hate white people. Yeah Obama hates whites like his mom who raised him largely all by herself.....'cuz that's logical.....
Truth is many on the far right hate minorities and do nothing but talk down to them from their moral hobby horse that's why the stormfront nazis say ron paul shares nearly 100% of their views, a white nationalist spoke at CPAC, the birther bile, or the blacks are too dumb and only want handouts and thus they are brainwashed and can't support democrats because they are the real "racists"
what a laugh...blasting trolls is always good fun, keep it up I'm going to need something to laugh at tomorrow so get one it
white christian men have never been persucuted in this country, they've been to busy holding down everyone else..........now whites won't be the minority and will likely be naturally phased out genetically through intermarrying of cultures and that scares you we know....and who could blame you for being scared
revisionist history of the right has no power to change the truth
so go look for the loch ness monster that you teach your children is real in louisiana
I only hope that even the stupidest of republican voters can see the tactics and understand that whatever they voted for in the past, THESE Criminals are NOT THE same people. Or as I like to say," this is not your daddies republican party" The copy writer at Oldsmobile's ad agency or was it Buick must be proud of that campaign.
The stooge says "Watergate" and where was the NRA when Ollie North and Ray-Guns were selling weapons to "Iran"{remember Iran was checking Saddam at the time},where was the NRA when Rep.Joe Wilson was equipping the Muja-Hadeen in Afghanistan,and where is your nit-wit attitude that Mexican cartels buy their weapons in,what,Canada? You gun-toters have no solutions to anything except a gun dealers profit margin,legal sales or not!
Where was the NRA when Reagan was selling drugs so his Contra freedom fighters could buy guns to murder nuns with?
they wre in reagan's pocket.
Roger, you don't see any of our old friends show up to defend this do you. They believe what they want to believe. What a big waste of time, and the republicans sure have a lot of egg on their faces.....ROTFFL
#2.4 Drool......drool...........
Doe anyone believe that the GOP controlled House will not vote for contempt charges? The question is, how far will Boehner push it.
As far as he can, Larry. Even the speaker is being held hostage by his extreme, hateful and ignorant T-Party freshman House members.
This isn't government, it is terrorism, domestic terrorism!
Someone better save us from our domestic enemies!
Sure wish these jokers would wake up to the fact that we sent them to Washington to solve problems....not make them. To find a workable consensus by which to govern. Not go off on expensive and unproductive "witch hunts".
If there's smoke, there isn't necessarily fire. Congress, it seems, sees smoke and comes running with accellerant to make certain they can get a good blaze going from even the poorest fuel.
Slack, I know you only pay attention to what you want to hear but: the documents Issa is demanding are protected under Federal Law. They have informant information etc. IF Holder released them not only would he be violating the Law but also guaranteeing the death of all the informants and their families. But we know you don't care about that. Just what the GOP wants is all you give a rats ass about.
slacker,
not one repub cared when cheeeney and bush lied.
issa doesn't care what bush did, and he probably already knows. the repubs aren't going to do anything to bush or cheeeney, they are repubs. they don't go after repubs, they only go after democrats, EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO MAKE STUFF UP, and the repubs are very good at making stuff up when trying to bring a democrat down.
suzette~They don't even care what Issa did. They elected him anyway. How stupid and crooked are Repubs anyway??
The Republican Party are worse than theorists! They would double down on a vendetta against Obama and take Eric Holder down as well! Can people in this country afford what they have in store for us. If they are this devious they are capable of anything. Isa is a criminal how he ever got in Politics with his record is beyond me! Lies, deception and right in front of our noses! " AND NONE SHALL CALL IT TREASON! These words echo in my head and what can we do to hold them accountable. We did not go after Bush and Cheney for war crimes and yet they are out for blood! What has happen to the country we call home?
I feel no fear from theorists, it is just too hypothetical to consider.
Spending the big bucks to take down a nation is not "America", but good bye it will be.
Right but then again you believe Moon Bat, Palin and all those other insane hear voices in their heads air heads are smart women. Clean your own psycho ward up before talking about the other guys.
Yes Pam worst than a terroist!! My family have voted Republican before, but if they were alive now, it would break their heart. People don't see the big picture. Why wasn't any of Willard's supporters the average person invited to their weekend event in Colorado? Hello! Money wants to control America and the people and that goes for the people voting for these morons! Hello! My prediction: the GOP will take America down!
the greedy obstructionist party, a subsidiary of the nra.
must be a hit job..come on ed..wtf..when will you and the people behind this mess accept responsibility? People are DEAD because of this..AMERICANS
30,000 die each year from gun violence, the NRA denies this.
let's not forget that issa himself claimed on fake news sunday that they had to evidence of wrongdoing on holder or the whitehouse. this was from fake news. mind you. so it comes down to a racist,bigoted witchhunt paid for by the nra. no if's and's or but's about it.
oh mr. bill you still have your head in the sand i see.
People are dead from gw/cheney's fake war. Our Sons and Daughters. Now the republicans don't want to find funds for what they call "Hand out", Mr. Bill. Who was the president who started this, who lied about it? It was not Eric Holder. When the entire truth is finally exposed you will not have a leg to stand on. The guilty people, were bush/cheney, NRA, Issa, Boehner and the Arizona agents who didn't tell the truth.
Why did the dems let the fake wars happen? I just dont understand how the repuks can stop Obama but the dems were powerless to stop Bush. It just dont equal the reality test, surely the dems could filbuster like the repuks are doing right?
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Dems believed the elaborate hoaxes. Cheney/Bush had been war profiteers and still are. Congress should have kept that in mind before voting yes. Just spilled milk, huh?
The NRA is vying to be one of our leaders now? Wonder who they're beating out at the trough.
Why did the dems believe it? If it was a fake war surely they were smart enough to see through it right? No way they let it happen without some sort of cia intelligence information. Looks like the dems are just as bad as the repuks for not seeing through the lies.
Once again there is nothing said about either weapon as the murder weapon used in the crime so again you are lying.
Whomimay have you been living under a rock? Holder has admitted to liying to congress this is actualy fact. Did you not know that Roger Clemens ( a white baseball player) was tried for liying to congress. Now he was proven not guilty but never the less he was tried. How can you honsetly dispute actual facts.
In truth the NRA called this morning to polling on their position against everything in the world that might bear on the right to bear arms.
This morning's call intimidates that the United Nations might "discuss" this topic for a treaty (see below), but that it as likely to note on in about millions years from now. By then the U.S. Senate might reconsider Treaty of Versailles, rejected in 1919, delaying WWI's disastrous ending until 1921 (See Republican Senator Henry Cabot Lodge Sr.)
Imagine the waste in posturing of the Honorable U.S. Senate to Vote against treaty that has not yet been written, but has one half dozen provisions that require unanimous concurrence by all the Nations of the world. This has never happened that 200 "sovereign nations" would agree to interfere with domestic politics, and would take four millions years. (We are paying for Senators you know.)
If the NRA intimidated politicians by its blatant violent threats, then when asking a politician to provide a reason for his support of the NRA banal platitudes would not produce any point of reason. The whole point of reason is to show point by point both sides, not merely a rhetorical politician device to waste time. Thus any time the NRA raises an argument, we would access all the previous reasoned arguments, and judge if the argument is likely to happen.
Example: Read this document, and then review the validity of the NRA position, it clear that the two topics have nothing reasonable to share between them in productive discussion. A discussion that reaches a condensed conclusion or a statement of opposing facts (reasoning) is not forthcoming.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_Trade_Treaty
Therefore statements by political bodies are wasteful, because they cannot support what cannot happen.
"I vote for the impossible, because the impossible cannot happen."
The U.S. Senate would indeed waste our time, in delaying things that cannot happen, but it really should respect all Americans.
If you had asked "When would the U.S. accept reasonable limits on Second Amendment gun ownership?" The answer would surprise you.
Guns laws will appear to be falling from the sky as soon as ...
"Liberals Start Buying Guns"
And you just know for fact that liberal don't own or buy guns. How?
i'm with you larry. this has nothing to do with gun ownership, it's a witch hunt paid for by the nra.
yep the old democrats don't own guns or wouldn't want one or go hunting or protect their families or just plain are un American cause they don't live in a trailer.
you righties have been callin me a liberal ever since I've posted on this blog cause I don't like your politics. got news for ya....I got friends that are die hard conservative republicans that don't own guns and I don't call em liberal OR commies......oh my ribs....what closet do guys hide in during the day time??
oh yah....got a couple of Smiths that were made here in the USA along with my grandfathers huntin rifles....oh my ribs...
Funny how that is but reality is they are just projecting their beliefs onto others without knowing just who that other is. Like the numb nuts who thought liberals wouldn't fight back because a majority of liberals won't fight back. That doesn't mean all liberals are pacifists because no 2 liberals are the same. They love using the broad brush of all when it comes to labeling others. Are they in for a rude awakening.
howdy whom-it all gets down to the cut your nose off despite your face thing. why why why would a middle class American think the GOP has the middle class first attitude? where the heck do they get that idea?
what these righties can't get in their heads is, the constitution the idea of it was a L I B E R A L idea in its day.....and because of that liberalism we have a middle class today. the aristocrats and their plutocracy was hated by those that fought the monarchist..........
it took yearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs of liberal thinking and a civil war so that righties could all vote that includes their mothers. lets not even touch base with the blacks being able to vote....heaven forbid....we just might get a black president............
We have the right to bare arms. Legal Arms.....now the reps want to defend the illegal. What a mixed up bunch. No wonder they think willard is an acceptable candidate.
Here's the truth, there is a border agent dead as a result of the Obama Administration intentionally allowing weapons to fall into the hands of drug dealers. Bryan Terry's parents deserve answers and accountability. That's the bottom line.
Go ask Bush/Cheney about the dead agent!
Kill the NRA!!! Impeach Issa!!!
Notice he doesn't mention the lax gun laws supported by the GOP are the real problem as the Straw man gun buyers were committing no crimes that any AZ DA would prosecute. Seems our rabid little righties want to ignore the facts and run with the fake outrage.
whoitmay he will never mention anything but lies and hate for obama. that's in it in his nutshell.
the nra is pulling all the strings right now with this witch hunt, nothing more to it than that.
oh henry your starting to get mad here. does the truth about bush/cheney get to you because you know deep down it's the truth.
Notice also that they only said 2 ATF guns were found at the scene not that either gun was the murder weapon so grasping at straws again. In order to place the blame on either Holder or Obama one of the weapons would have had to be the murder weapon, no where in any of the reports do they claim either ATF gun was the murder weapon so reality is meaningless drama.
No but don't whine and cry when guns end up in the wrong hands because of lax gun control laws. You reap what you sow.
My answer to your question is no, henry.
Speaking of going through life with blinders on, who ya voting for in the Presidential election?
Attention: The NRA /Republican/Conservative/"Citizens United" has launched its final campaign to buy the House of Representatives, the Senate and the Presidential Elections.
If the contempt nut house wins, American Loses.
dave that border agents death does not fall on obama it falls squarely on bush's team.
One Last time BILLIE
Bush has been gone almost 4 years
Its FALLS on President Obamas Administration
Bush ain't gone and his cronies are still at it....where the heck do you get your news justasitus? yah I know fox..................
you two guys ever heard of this guy Karl Rove? ring a bell in dingy dingy land....oh my ribs............you know the guy they call the president maker.......
http://www.animalnewyork.com/2012/ill-doctrine-why-i-will-feed-the-trolls-if-i-damn-well-want-to/
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This is a man we need in Congress his name is Col Wayne Powell YOU SHOULD HAVE HIM ON YOUR SHOW FOR AN INTERVIEW THANKS i WATCH YOU EVERY NITE!!!
And even after this six month investigation by Fortune Issa, Boehner and the other idiots will not be satisfied.The Republican Party has become a very dangerous joke, and Boehner is an even bigger joke because instead of him leading the House he's letting his Republican Party minions lead him. Same goes for Romney for that matter for the same reasons since he's letting the Republican Party lead him instead of him being the current leader of the party by virtue of being the party's presidential nominee.
And Congress's reputation is being dragged down by whom? The idiotic shenanigans of the Republican Party.
Here's why the agent died............853 legal firearm dealers in the Phoenix alone!!!!!
NRA are the murders of our own agents!!
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Amen!
Didn't Issa make his name and wealth from selling those Cobra radar detectors? I think he loves to help people break the law then and if I remember right those ads had a fine print line saying "Illegal in the states of......." will Issa, you assisted high speed accidents likely too with those...and he was an Air Force officer? Thought they had respect for safety. I guess when you become unethical, safety goes out the door or maybe just safety of others, right Sir? No disrespect meant to the Services from this ex-Army soldier, just pointing out we have a big example of someone who could bring disrespect to the Services if people realize what Issa is all about.
reminds me of another guy and WMDs...........
Koch want voter suppression, and to spread their toxic waste.....so let's keep Eric from doing those jobs. Use any tactics......reminds me of the Mafia! Oh-so-la-me-o.
Watergate- fast and furious- not the same- in a sense that is correct- number of people killed in the watergate break in zero- number killed by the guns allowed to cross the border- at least 2- likely many more-
but that is not the point- the claim of executive privelege is an extreme measure- this is not about some national security issue- congress has asked for the production documents relating to the program- whether that is policitically motivided is not relevant- both parties when they are in power conduct hearings and demand documents from the executive branch- in most instances a waste of time- but this is what congress does-
that said- what possible reason could there be to not produce the documents- unless they really are trying to hide something-
hmmmm....if the border is not a security issue....what's all the fuss about?
There is no issue? There is scare the public, and make up stuff and scare the people some more......now who is the Witches they should be looking for?
yep TM.....it worked for McCarthy but the withces were commies then. nothing new with the GOP....just new believers.........
ok- point remains- DOJ refuses a lawful request for documents- why? what possible executive privilege could exist?
This was a SCHEME people by Issa and the GOP.. to STOP holder from investigating voter suppression.. and to destroy our President.
No kidding.....what else would you expect from the crooks on the right!
http://gawker.com/5920526/the-gop-is-unbelievably-full-of-@!$%#-on-executive-privilege
Thanks Thankful Mom I agree we expect nothing from the crooks on the right
You want the truth about fast and furious? Circle up poozers, and listen up. Since Nixon created on all those many new government departments to a size you would think Obama has done if you listen to the imagination land tea party.......the drug war has come with it and has failed. The drug war has failed, the ATF and the DEA are the architiects of the drug war.
Government has no right to tell us what we can not put in our own bodies save for when it interferes with the life of someone else while still allowing alcohol which causes thousands of deaths...so time to end it.
Turn off the lights in ATF, put some of those agents in the FBI...so the same for the DEA. Time for them to go away.
well since guns is an issue here....guess what? Texas don't think stand your ground is such a good idea after all. cost one guy 40 years to find out just cuse ya got a gun don't mean ya have the right to shoot someone cause ya don't like their music.....especially an unarmed music person........
Issa shooting blanks! Ha ha ha! He'll be looking for new job by Monday...
I'm waiting for the tan man and the rest of em to get the news...........hehehe
In someways I hope not because if the Tee Potty gains seats Tan Man will be gone. Unless somehow REPUPUBLICAN voters tip the Potty over.
if I'm not mistaken....that could already be happinin. Hatch considered a rhino took it. maybe the real republicans are starting to wake up to the potty?
It may be the only way to get anything done in Washington. My hopes for a democratic landslide aren't real high, but who knows about the way people in this country vote. Or why!
we had some real heated dicussions my friends and I concerning the hows of where we are going as a nation.....but....we all care about our nation. to me that's the key....caring about our others than me.
gonna take both sides of the coin to do it..............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ5DAkYKx-4 Why I Vote Democratic!
And not republican
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDckVeqPDAg&feature=related
What everyone seems to forget is that the only way this story came to light was because of a ATF agent turned whistle-blower who ratted out the operation.
So either he's lying, or you just got suckered Ed.
At least 31 dem representatives are in cahoots with the GOP conspirators.
HHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And they thought they wouldn't get enough votes to proceed. Hmmm Another liberal trick! Ha ha ha!
They are gonna back down sooo fast....in light of the new evidence, or something like that!
All Democrats in the House of Representatives should abstain from voting on this witch-hunt and political travesty!
Hey, House Democrats - act like a Democrat, walk like a Democrat, talk like a Democrat and Vote like a Democrat!
The NRA be damn** , the tide is turning and we democrats will remember your yellow-belly chickensh**of an excuse to vote for something you know will hurt all democrats.
We will survive and continue on, but your sad-sell-out self will not!
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