Gov. Jan Brewer says the U.S. Supreme Court's 5-3 decision to uphold part of Arizona Senate Bill 1070, which she signed into law in April 2010, is a victory for all Americans.
But immigrant rights supporters say the decision marks a loss for Gov. Brewer.
Which is it?
The court struck down three major provisions: requiring all immigrants to obtain or carry immigration registration papers, making it a crime for illegal immigrants to seek work in Arizona and allowing allowing police to arrest suspected illegal immigrants without warrants.
The justices did uphold the provision that allows state police to stop, question, and briefly detain immigrants if state officers have a reasonable suspicion the immigrants are illegally in the U.S. But even then, state law enforcement must check with federal immigration agents before taking suspects into custody.
When Gov. Brewer held a news conference about four hours after the decision was announced, reporters pointed out that many provisions of the law had been stripped.
But she simply repeated the "heart" of the law was "vindicated by the highest court of the land."
"It's certainly not the end of our journey," Brewer finally conceded. "We expect lawsuits to be filed."
In her opening statement, Brewer dissed Democrats in Washington, saying they "failed the American people regarding immigration policy," repeating the untruth that President Obama had a filibuster proof majority for two years.
"We also cannot forget that President Obama and and his party had both houses in Congress for two years and could've secured our borders and fulfilled the promise to fix our broken immigration system," Brewer said. "They failed."
In reality, Democrats had a filibuster proof majority for less than seven months, from the day Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) was sworn in on July 7, 2009, until Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) was sworn in on Feb. 4, 2010.
Of course, Brewer is not immune to making false claims or showing disrespectful behavior. While running for re-election in 2010, she falsely claimed that undocumented immigrants are pouring into the country to decapitate innocent Americans.
And in January of this year, Brewer wagged her finger at President Obama when she greeted him upon his arrival in Phoenix.
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer said she felt threatened by President Obama during her finger-pointing session yesterday. Ed Schultz plays the President's response, and Dr. James Peterson sounds off.
Ed will look at today's immigration ruling tonight at 8pET on The Ed Show on MSNBC with U.S. Rep. Raúl M. Grijalva (D-Arizona).
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Ed, your heading here should read:
OBAMA DECLARES VICTORY IN SUPREME COURT DECISION....BUT IS IT????
YOu have it backwards Ed. Obama has already issued a statement on how the great Supreme Court backed him up in this. But the court upheld the key privision in the Arizona law. That is why Jan Brewer said that part was a victory.
I just want Obama to have the same respect and the same great words to say to the Surpreme Court when they publish the ruling on Obamacare. You watch though....if it does not go his way....watch him and all of you lefties whine that the court is political.
Lets see what happens. Obama just praised the Supreme Court on this ruling. This is going to be interesting.
You know this all started when the Obama and Holder were doing NOTHING about the border in Arizone and other states. The govenor said enough was enough and started to do something about it herself....then all of a sudden the feds wanted to get involved because it didn't jive with Obama's idealogy. Sad. Holder even sued the state.
I sincerely hope Eric Holder gets what is coming to him and after all of this Fast and Furious stuff comes to light...that the light shines where it should. Snake in the grass.
since ya mentioned Obamacare.....hope they do get rid of the mandate part. then we can get on to single payer and the public option....... where it should have gone in the first place. but ya know, try as you will to find a compromise with the house....they'll just walk out on their earlier ideas..........
Police cannot stop anyone that has not broken any laws (lawful stops).
Police cannot incarcerate people indefinitely while checking immigration status.
Police can check immigration status in accordance with federal laws. Can't require photo ID for that though.
Federal immigration law does not require all immigrants to cary identification (special exception for agricultural workers).
This administration has deported more illegals in three years than the previous did in four but you wouldn't know that watching faux news
you also wouldn't know that there is more resources via man power and drones on te border than ever before and not because of GW's either
Ditto.
1.7 million left on their own after states like KKKalifornia outlawed immigrant drivers licenses then started stealing/deporting cars/drivers with foreign license. Obama deported 1 million more before the light bulb went on.
Somewhere between 1 and 2 million abandoned dwellings by my count.
Even Faux !News has covered the housing abandonment problem that has no earthly explanation.
No.
Wait.
Housing was abandoned because people were suddenly raptured to heaven.
Correction: They've deported more in three years than Bush did in eight
On the rapture that just couldn't be because all our champions of tradition and "religion" GOP friends are still here and since their such sincere christians that could possibly have happened.....I wonder how many of them know the rapture is biblically bogus
I keep thinking I'm watching a King Crimson concert every time I hear something about Florida and Arizona.
INDEED! 20th century man. What happened to that music from the past......I haven't heard that one for a while....kinda like the I haven't heard that one for a while...
THANK C.A. That was soooo Cool! Indeed its paranoia from the rich they will leave us in a ditch.
Yet I hear GOD is COMING! Soon!
Soon/YES/Relayer
http://youtu.be/cGtjr-U5bT4
Cool.
I haven't heard Yes since my old stereo wore out.
You know, they've released all their works on CD. Unless you've got an 8-track.
so what victory is she referring too? she is from the same planet as the other repukes.
Arizona won a spectacular victory today in the Supreme Court in its ongoing efforts to do something about the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who reside in the state and cost Arizona taxpayers an estimated $1.3 billion a year. In its ruling against the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Obama administration, the Court also disproved the breathless claims of liberals and the editorial pages of publications like the New York Times that the conservative justices on the Court are just the handmaidens of big business who always rule in favor of corporate America.
Idiot.
I kept it short so you could understand it.
Day laborers don't have to carry identification according to federal law, so they can't be deported because they lack documents.
ICE uses face recognition and fingerprints for that reason. Police do not have that in their cars.
Ergo.
Arizona voters just converted police into taxi drivers and hotel operators for immigrants that can't be deported because they are here legally without documents.
Brains.
Optional in Arizona.
I think you can lease with an option to buy. If you learn how to use it.
Actualy when I worked day labor in vegas you had to have a social securty card. You couldnt just give them the number. Also I knew this one guy that was from Romania. He actualy had 2 ss cards one to work and one to get a check every month.
And we know that is a lie. How do we know that, really easy as the SS number has to match one in the system to get a check, which is how illegals get busted when payments are made to SS and the numbers don't match any in the system. Really you need to research before you try to run bull@!$%#.
No im dead serious he did he had one to work day labor and he had one to get a check. Thats is a true story I actualy let the guy take a shower and spend 2 nights in my motel room. I dont know how the hell he did it but he did and he still was homeless. Im asuming he was legal in order to get a check or he was using fake ids. This is real life experience no research needed it actualy happened.
You do know Las Vegas is in Nevada right.....not Arizona aka the place were actually talking about
In Arizona it's illegal for illegals to seek work however it is not illegal to offer work to illegals.....
There is also a LAS Vegas in New MEXICO. I thought we weretalking about federal law anyway.
Well I'm talking state of Arizona and its laws...or at least proposed laws like making it illegal for illegals to seek work but not so much to employ them by giving them work.....that seems silly because they come for work so why not cut off the work and thus the desire to hop over here
Or that in the SB1070 issue that the police can be sued if people don't like how the police are enforcing it if they think they aren't being argressive enough on it
They wanted to have them be able to detain almost without warrant if they couldn't produce papers until they could, they struck that down because of the risk to actual citizes since obviously not everyone carries around their birth certificate all the time....and you have all these right wingers always saying they get fake documents so they can flock here for the winter and vote......so huge problems there
(R) Pharaoh said he was boss...until.... Get ready for a big surprise! BOOM!.... V.(R)
XXXOOO, What do you mean? What big surprise?
India its written in the stars...the time is now. Soon as it has been promised. Kolob will be put into a prison for 1000 years.
Maybe I should have said the DEVIL.
All the people even if they are republican voters they will come to their senses! Odd as it may seem....they will. We are we! We are one in not wanting of hate and war. The time has come and we will make this a world for all to live in peace.
Jan Brewer has been living in Foxworld. Another example of the right wing extremist T-party prejudices against everyone whose skin looks a little different from their own.
Well, it will help Obama, anyway. I try to look on the bright side. Personally, I fear the T-party much more than any immigrant!
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Maybe, since Romney's relatives are in Mexico, the Mexican government should think about sending them back here. Especially since they fled into Mexico to escape our laws.
I still haven't seen Mittens' long-form birth certificate. I don't want any Mexican running for president.
i love your sarcasim real
Yeah, right.
Maybe the Mexican government should think about sending Romney's relatives back here. Especially since they fled to Mexico to escape our laws.
Doubt Ed Schulz will report on this
A new poll released Monday by The Hill shows a “clear majority” of likely voters nationwide believe that President Barack Obama is over-reaching with his assertion of executive privilege over Operation Fast and Furious documents.
Overall, The Hill said 56 percent of likely voters nationwide disapproved of Obama’s assertion of executive privilege in this case, while 29 percent approved.
A total of 61 percent of independents disapproved of Obama’s actions, while only 25 percent approved. Seventy-eight percent of Republicans disapproved of Obama’s executive privilege move, as did 28 percent of Democrats and 30 percent of liberals.
And in more news Fox news viewers are more misinformed then people who watch no news.
President Obama
Now what?
Muslim Brotherhood candidate Mohamed Morsi was officially declared Egypt's first freely elected president on Sunday after a run-off vote against ousted leader Hosni Mubarak's former prime minister, Ahmed Shafiq. Morsi supporters erupted in celebration following his victory, while the grief of Shafik supporters settled hard on a nation no stranger to revolutionary results in recent years.
Egypt's Mohamed Morsi wants to renew ties with Iran
Egypt's president-elect Mohamed Morsi, a hard-line Islamist, says he wants tor restore ties to Iran. Iran hailed Mursi's victory as an "Islamic Awakening."
you're a idiot get off this good blog and got to f@ck news and stay off here
He likes to come here and feel he's MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
It's the only place a righty can come and stand out. On the right-wing blogs, he blends in with all the other crazies.
He needs the attention.
Nah Chris he is just another tea bagged republican who is in love with his own voice pretending he is presenting his greatness even though only he see his greatness.
3 Posts by 3 different ImPosters
None can Refute by all RESORT to name calling
Its OK if you are a Liberal
WELL! I never!
Thought that might help.
The more you post, the funnier you get.
You do know that the documents that were withheld are wiretaps and transcripts that would allow criminals to hunt and kill witnesses and federal agents.
You also know that every classified document given to congress leaked within hours.
When did we declare war on Mexico Crack?
Actualy you are wrong again crackhead. The documents they want are from after feb 2012, That want to know why Holder lied and then in dec changed his story. See he actualy lied to congress and admitted it in dec. Liying to congress is a huge deal just ask Roger Clemens.
They're also not reporting how Obama has a 30+ lead in a new favorability poll of latino voters
But to Egypt you're saying we should overturn their election because we don't like the results or that we should have given Mubarak more money to be a dictator and put in his private family bank accounts.....how does that jive with our fundamental American values?
We can't just go around "We are America. Your fossil fuel and cultural significance shall now be made to service us. Lower your shields and prepare to boarded. Resistance is futile"
It is somewhat childish to call people terrorists just because they want to kill you.
Iranians want to kill Americans because Eisenhower and Nixon killed about 800 people in order to overthrow the country in 1953 so we could steal their oil. Some of those people were from influential Muslim families similar to our Kennedy and Rockefeller families.
Now republicans want to bomb Iran to punish them for being mad at us because they never want a US president to ever apologized for murdering those people.
Israel and Egypt have a similar history.
Requirement for graduation from kindergarten: must play well with others.
Iranians don't want to kill Americans, and by that I mean the Iranian people aren't really against us it is the regime that hates us. It is true we have done things we probably shouldn't be proud of over there but one also has to remember these influential families akin to the Kennedys or Rockefellers aren't quite the same....these are super wealthy families because of business and politics these families had power because of their noble status. These families were the royal monarchs and official that had controlled and upheld the feudalistic system that put them in power. Those families had no right to rule in the first place any more than the Al Sauds of Saudi Arabia.
So perhaps the hate of us over there started as legit but it isn't now. Remember Iran had another revolution which made it into a theocracy. Lets also not forget all the westerners and israelis that have been killed by the Iranian guard who fire on their own unarmed civilians or hezbollah
Republicans have been hunting Democrats since Carter and Cheney lawyers! But he has had to slow down because his hearts not in it!
Cheney's a real hunter he's willing to shell out a bunch of taxpayers money in a heartbeat!
Well, now that he has one.
Where ever he goes he's always got a cooler and its not BUSH LIGHT! that's in there!
she is an ugly bigoted troll.
The bus lady! WOW! Isn't she suppose to be the one keeping the kids under control? Hey I don't condone what the kids did, But now shes got a bunch of money for.....for ...being a wimp! OMG if you can't do the job why is she there? I hope its not the only source of income she has. If so I feel real sorry for her and our country. JC What does it take now to make kids behave! I'm not a big one on extreme punishment, yet when I was kid NO meant NO by any adult when I was 8 or about. Pain isn't a good way to provide restraint to behaviour. To me the media making so much of this just going to make matters worse. It will go viral and it has taken the message with it.One thing that has changed though the years is that children have realized that adults can be charged will abuse if it any kind of contact in a negative way, and I don't mean physical contact. Anything one might say if your not the parent or guardian could make you end up in courtroom. I don't want granny to be insulted as much as I would care to see anyone I thought should. But I just think she should have stood up for herself more. But some of the laws have made kids protected to the point of this,where the kids have realized the have a loophole to bully. Cracker Jack!
The SCOTUS decision to uphold the Arizona law on stopping any brown skinned person is extremely discriminatory because there are many millions that are 1st or 2nd or even 3rd generation Americans with brown skin. Why should those citizens carry documentation of proof that they are real Americans. I shouldn't have to proof myself to anybody that I'm an American. Does that mean I should have the right to question the citizenship of a white person? In the same manner does a black person have to proof that he/she has to proof their citizenship so as not to be sent back to Africa? Lets question all white people on their citizenship!!
The fact that she (the old lady with no respect) is proud of having this part uphold (pure profiling) is not looking for immegrtion law, but rather for descrimination... When she pointed her finger at President Obama with no respect to the office the first time she met him in AZ with no hesitations, just being so natuarl, shows the descrimination she holds inside her. If she is pointing finger to a maid.
Hey Eduardo, you do know that one of Obama's own and a fellow 'Brown Skin" appointee upheld that section of the Law. So it is not "discriminatory" as you stated.
I was driving down the rode the other day and ran into a police road block. They made me stop roll down my window and had the nerve to ask me for my drivers license. I simple showed them my Id and I even ask the officer if he needed my registration. He said no thats fine have a nice day, now that did not upset me in the least. basicaly he was asking me for my papers, now had I showed him an ID from Russia I might have been a possible illegal alien. I dont see how asking anbody to show their ID is racial profiling. If you show a us id you are good to go. If you show a mexico id then you are probaly not here legaly.
So what? You never mentioned what the police road block was there for, police do not set up road blocks to look at ID's. So I guess we can assume you made the story up to prove what a good little German you are. The only time I see road blocks is when police are searching for a suspect, rarely or drunk checks or an accident on the road ahead needs cleaned up.
They do here in South Carolina all the time. Mainly looking for drunk drivers people with out drivers licease, people driving under suspension. They do it during every holiday. They even set em up after the beer joints close as well. Hell when I was living in vegas 2 cops stop me for crossing freemont street. They said as long as I checked out they would let me go. Point is everybody needs to carry id and if you dont have US id then you are probaly not legal unless you have a work permit or student visa or some kind of paper work. Brings me to another situation I was in, a dude stole my watch the police came and when he gave them a false name they arrested him for that. They couldnt arrest him for stealing my watch because he hadit on his wrist.
http://knowmyrights.org/faq/4th-amendment/when-do-i-have-to-show-id.html
I will keep that in mind next time a cop ask me for my drivers licease. Of course all hes got to say is that he thought he smelled alochol or weed. Always remember its best to give the police officers what they ask for. Telling them they dont have the right to check your id may cost you a trip to the pokie.
That would be fine with this white boy.
I have carried an I.D. since I was 16,
as the law required when I lived in Los Angeles.
At that age we were stopped almost on a daily scedule.
Maybe they have different cops there today, but we were terribly harrassed in those days just for being young.
A POWER HUNGRY REPUBLICAN IS Arizona Gov, As thay all are in this country is Republican.. we must vote DEMOCRAT..2013..
You're going to be a year too late:)
Why, so the Dems can have the power to destroy America?
Did this old lady Arizona Governer proposed any such law during Bush's first 4 years administration? did she propose such law during bush's 2nd 4 years administration? now every law (whether it is good or bad) belong to Obama? we have to blame him for the lack of law of certain section?
we blame him for economie that Bush ceated, we blame hime for gay's existance, and so on. now we blame him for immegraation that existed for years?
and what makes is easier for this OL governer to point finger to the man who holds the oval office? is it because he is black? an old lady governer who has no respect to the highest office (her superior) has the nerve to talk about president being wrong?
Hakiem, do some research before asking a question.
Gov. Brewer was not a Gov under President GW Bush's term. and you libs call Conservatives uninformed.
The Gov. answers to the people of the state, not the pres.
Remember back when the states were told to keep the speed limit at 55 or they would get no fed. funds for the highways?
Not all states agreed and left the limit at mostly 65.
Others refused, just like the daylight savings time thing.
I love it.
States are supposed to be sovenign.
WE need to VOTE THIS Dummy out of OFFICE. PLEASE !!!!!!!!
Jan Brewer has left the reality long ago for the parallel universe into the Twilight Zone of right winged denial. The ruling today upheld "the papers please" Arizona law today but three out of four other provisions were overturned. Justice Scalia today almost burst a vein in his anger over Obama's recent change in the Dream Act so kids that were educated here for many years can stay here. Most of us know that Arizona faces many challenges in regards to undocumented workers. The answer to this problem is to pass the Dream act which passed both chambers of Congress but was filibustered in the Senate despite receiving 55 votes. We also need comprehensive immigration reform in this country. In the meantime, as President Obama said in a recent speech in front of Latinos last week, this Arizona law only makes things more complicated and more difficult to solve. So the President made his own policy because the Dream act failed to pass because the Republicans filibustered it. What a disgrace for our nation to have to endure. Good countries do not harass families that are have been here for years. The GOP is lowering our democracy to the gutter.
Jan Brewer is the one making threatening looking moves wagging her finger at the President of the US. Are the people of AZ really wanting this as the image of them to America. They need to get rid of this witch
Why, you loved it when a reporter threw a shoe at GE Bush. and would have loved to see anybody disrespect GW Bush. She had every right to shake her finger at BHO.
Nope. Swing and a miss.
Not to mention the person that threw the show was not a US citizen. So we get the usual apples to oranges syndrome the right love so much meaningless nonsense.
AA-Republican you missed the whole point I was making about citizenship. Seems to me that now its season on any and all people and that includes all others in this country.
See, here's the delusional part. She sees this as a victory for ALL Americans. If that's the case, I am staunchly not American. She excludes me from her version of America with prejudice. She's delusional, but inherent in that statement is that some of the people I love and respect are also delusional on this subject and I don't know what to do about it. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Brewer is so strange, i think she is willie/nillie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Americans have lost the American Dream.
Whats wrong with Illeagls from losing the Dream Act.
And why should we even be making laws in favor of law breakers anyway?
The dream act doesn't apply to those you've entered the country of their own free will....having I don't particularly care whether it passes or not. As a black americans kinda makes me think gee if only we'd had this after all we were brought not of our own free will legally, not breaking the law, with citizenship......gosh that would have been great