Concerns over the bungled "Fast and Furious" gun trafficking operation led the House oversight committee Wednesday to recommend holding Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress. NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports.
Darrell Issa's witch hunt reaches an unprecedented level as a House panel holds Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.
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Alright don't investigate what actually happened in the operation, don't investigate the ATF who put it on....no then you'd come upon a solution and that can't while a democrat is in the white house right house republicans.
Take out Eric Holder, Take out Obama and I guarantee you this will happen again. More will die.
Wasting time on a silly expensive witch hunt......Please we have more important things we need to work on. Typical republican obstructionism. We all know why.
Indeed TMom haven't they something more important to do. like name a post office and shut it down!
What about HOLDER going after Roger Clemens. Now that is a waste of taxpayers money. Trying to find out the truth so agents Terrys family can get a little closure doesnt sound like wasting taxpayers money. Not to mention the hundreds of Mexicans familys as well. In all seriousness Holder and Obama should cooperate in the fullest in this matter. This is not something they should be trying to hide just hand over the documents to congress.
Roley you think they care about getting to truth even though they have investigated anyone who was actually involved in the ATF....god you're a sucker......
The Congress is not interested in the truth which is why MORE things like this WILL happen and more people WILL DIE. Congress will hold this vote and then move on to the next shiny thing in front of them and no reforms nor changes will be made. Keep in mind I will be satisfied with nothing less than the complete destruction of the ATF for cowboy antics and questionable operations. They must be shut down and placed as a department within the FBI. They are a flawed creation like the DEA which has wasted money and expanded the influence of dysfunctional government into the lives of americans all while coming no clsoer to solving their intended problems than on the day they were created. Shut 'em down, we don't need 'em.
No one from the Bush administration working on this when it was called the menendez case, since this has gone on for many years I'm sure the panel didn't even know that......so not one ATF official testifying. I'm sure you weren't aware of that either. You do realize this is not about anything that happened save for the right wing conspiracy(tea party) who believe a secret socialist plan to take all guns by Obama even though he it started under Bush....like Solyndra. So the right wants the DEA and ATF and their drug war and wants to pin the results on someone else although Obama has been a coward on these issues himself
Point this is not about truth it never has been they are going after him for saying he didn't know much about it and now they want thousands of documents...they probably haven't read all the one's they've already been given.........keep thinking they care about you......keep thinking the king of insider trading is there to cut corruption....keep being a pawn
They are not trying to get to the truth of anything. They can't because all they would do is come up with their own dirty Republican hands in the matter. That's why they haven't called anyone actually involved to come and tesitfy.
Why would Holder go after a baseball player, what truth was he after? I sure do think getting to the truth about fast and furous is alot more important than Roger Clemons taking steroids. Why dont Holder just hand over the documents? If they show things from the previuos adminstration then so be it. That adminstration shouldnt be exempt. I mean if you run from the cops your guilty of something right? It just makes alot more sense to let the cops search you if you have nothing to hide.
Because our culture places ridiculous value on professional athletes who do nothing to add to the world other than having fights, drugs, and bastard children. Remember congress started investigating steriods in baseball long before Holder came around. But I don't give a damn about that because I don't give a damn about Holder or his career. Having said this don't think I'll sit idley by while the GOP passes this shiny object in front of us and continues to refuse to end the drug war at the same time. Fire Holder if you like, beat Obama and sorry nothing will change 'cuz if you want to do that you should probably ask people who were actually there(crazy idea, I know) not people who don't even direct those departments. More will die, hundreds more and the right will not care again until there is another democrat president or an election. More will die. If you cared about that who'd be talking to the ATF and we all know you have no intention to do anymore on this than this contempt vote. I predict the Republicans will do zero reforms or moves to end the ATF and DEA drug war that has totally failed.
Documents they are "keeping secret"....gasp...fear.....are adamantly viewed by the administration as potential risks to real lives. What Rove did to Valerie Plame is what these documents would do, so more dead americans, and really for what? To show Holder heard about project only a couple days before he remembers saying he did or this hilarious idea that fast and furious was his plan or the president's in the first place...HA..what a joke....
is that really worth lives, the satisfaction of the most ineffective speaker of the house in recent memory and possibly even in our lifetime(Boehner) and the congressional king of insider trading(Issa)....???.....glad to see life is less valuable than a political witchhunt for the "pro-life" GOP
It does not need to be investigated as the whether the program started under Bush. That is a commonly known and indesputable fact in the first place. It's been on since atleast '06, that has already been proven.
Too bad these aren't cops....I mean didn't you get Mitt Romney's message from WI that we need less police......
You're not cops your a pitchfork and torch wielding town mob who want blood not answers.
And again the administration does indeed have something it very much wants to hide, the information and identies of federal agents involved in ongoing law enforcement operations......hmm seems like that's something you don't want everyone and their mother to know about
That realy confuses the hell out OF ME. They release documents that gave info anout the doctor who helped kill OBL. Also they release stuff about Obamas kill list. Holder lied in feb 2011 then in dec he admitted that he lied . The documents they are requestin is internal email on the subjst of him changing his story. Something is being hid here and its got nothing to do with saving lives.
Rolla...Don;t confuse them with the facts.
just saying...
Republicans don't do anything for 99% of us. All they do is wage war on the democrats and obstruct any legislation that would help the economy. To vote republican one has to be very wealthy or totally duped.
You've got that straight!
Fore...
Who passed the lower tax rates that have been in effect for the last 10+ years that have allowed thousands of dollars to remain in the average Americans pocket during that same time frame? Remember...ALL tax brackets benefitted from the lower rates.
just saying...
And all this just reinforces to decriminalize marijuana and end fruitless the $12 billion a year war on drugs. The teapublicans have been after Holder since the day he got the job. I wonder what they have to hide themselves that Holder may expose about what happened during the crooked Bush administration. If I was Holder I would find those little lies and bring them to light.
Down with the DEA, the ATF and their wastful drug war. Add that to Iraq and Afghanistan that's THREE wars we've been fighting no wonder we've got all this debt.
After all the underhanded dirty deeds the Republi-cons have done, this??? Where were these self rightous clowns when Super Hero Ronald Reagan was selling missles to Iran and covertly sending the profit made from these sales to the contras? That clearly broke numberous laws and intentionally circumvent congressional oversight. And the the blamed it on a Lt Col patsy Oliver North. And then the are the lies to get us into war in Iraq. Where is their outrage about these things?
Where is their outrage about these things?
There's no outrage because all that BS never happened. Liberals only hoped and prayed that it happened.
Iran Contra dip$hit
Those out there with access to google will find the documents unless Oliver North is just a fictional person who never existed....what a laugh...thanks right wing bobble head
Dick Cheney shot a guy in the face, consequences? Zero.
Torture, consequences? Zero.
Illegal executive powers ake the patriot act, consequences? Zero.
I agree with you on that one Reagans adminstration should have been investigated. However the fall guy was some guy from LA cant remember his name but I think hes still in prison. How Oliver North escaped being the fall guy I dont know.
cyn
What was Reagan convicted of? Nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What was Bush convicted of? Nothing!!!!
What was Cheney convicted of? Nothing??????
You won't be able to say that for Holder....He got caught...he's going down!!!
Glad to see the right applauds breaking the law, just remember that the next time you want to make some phony claim about the constitution
Glad to see the right applauds breaking the law,
Cyn
Nobody broke the law that's why there were no convictions..............DAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!
President Obama cant evoke executive privilege unless he has direct involvement which Holder and many others has testified that Obama had no knowledge of fast and furious so either Holder lied then or is lieing now so that is just more of a reason to hold him in contempt
You can call this a witch hunt all you want but remember we have a dead border patrol agent Brain Terry and hundred more dead Mexicans because of this operation and all of their families deserve answers and justice but the left feels it is more important to protect Holder and Obama then to give those families answers and justice
No we want answers but why not interview the guys who put this fast and furious together, it was holder who put an end to the program.He cant give Issa all the papers because they are confidential. i say lets put all the bush cronies on trial for killing 4000 women and men in iraq and then lets investigate Issa he has a cloudy background. This is racism pure and simple, from the time barack got elected there has been obstructionism all the way and that is why we r in a financial mess, they will do nothing. so lets go out and vote and kick the repubs out of the house they are way too far right.
TRFjr, We an call the two wars a witch hunt tooo, but we still have 6000 or more dead with another trillion dollar debt but Bush and Cheeney are still walking around
I would have to say Holder is racist because he let the black panthers go because they were not white. They should have been prosecuted for supressing voters, but since they were not white he let em go. Now a white baseball player however was brought to trail because he is white. I still have a hard time saying that Hermain Cain and Allen west are racist but if you say so ok.
Holder pulled a 50 million dollar witch hunt on Roger Clemens. Of course he failed....he's an Obamatoid. He should be sent back to the Panthers just for that alone.
TRFjr don't pretend like you care about whoever was killed, since what you support is this attack on the AG for saying he didn't know much about it not anything that happened since he had no involvement. If you care so much why hasn't anyone asked a single person from the ATF to testify after all it was the ATF that ran the program started under Bush that Holder ended. But you don't know that and probably don't care, facts don't let those of you on the right stop putting out pathetic spin.
And the president can invoke executive privelege for just about any reason he wants however it is intended to be used for situations where certain information must be held back for the potential dangers it would cause. So that people like Karl Rove who nearly got Valerie Plame killed wouldn't have to do that just to satisfy congress, of course Rove did that all on his own and no one forced him.
Rolla once again you're such a sucker, voter suppression isn't a crime nor was it would those NBPP could have been charged with, it's called voter intimidation which is remarkably hard to get even against the KKK. Look it up, of course you will not do that and so you won't find out that the men were found guilty on local charges so they didn't walk away with no punishment. If they do this again they can be instantly arrested. The 30 seconds of tape is not proof of anything, any one who's watch a law order marathon is going to point to the white women standing behind them near the door talking on her cell phone. If I'm the defense I say "clearly she wasn't scared, so why were this one guy?
I mean how dumb are you? If Holder doesn't like white people why does he work with them? Holder is a fool but that doesn't mean I'm going to excuse your profound ignorance. There are legit things to not like about him but this is just from your imagination. Funny didn't the right calim racism doesn't hold anyone back in a major way and since the president isn't white racism no longer exists in america? Before you dodge the question the answer is yes the right has said all these things to say those on the right who question the president's citizenship isn't racist.
Allen West is wack job and a disgrace to the GOP, why you people celebrate him like a rock star who knows....and Herman Cain is an idiot.
Why do think people are dumb enough to think we'll believe you want answers when you haven't interviewed so much as one person who was actually involved? What a laugh all we need now is blunder woman(Michelle Bachmann) and mama moose(Palin)
If those panthers would have been white, we would have seen marches protest Jesse Jackson and possibly riots. This is just fact look at the trevon martin case. Now look at the case in Norfolk where the two white reporters got beat up by several black people. Another example look ar the reporter who interupted Obama he was braded a racist because of that. You calling Herman an idiot is racist, also calling West a name is racist under the defintion of racist that MSNBC goes by. To be honsety with I personaly dont think its racist to disagree with Obama or Cain. My comments just point how silly it sounds to say people are because they disagree with Obama. So why dont we just stop with the racist comments about anybody who disagrees with Obama. Im just proving it can go both ways thats all.
high,
just because you say you aren't racist, doesn't mean that other people aren't. the naivete of people who think that President Obama will NOT pay a price as the first african american president is shocking. to say that racism isn't a factor in how our President is being treated is "magical thinking". in your world where racism doesn't exist, you don't have to deal with racism if it doesn't exist. you can continue to deny deny deny.
it might not be racism for YOU, but we have a right to JUDGE those who treat our President disrespectfully, because it sure looks like racism to us. how can we not consider racism as a factor when President Obama is our first african american President? part of it is the fact that he is also a democrat, repubbs will admit THAT. but they will never admit the racist part, even though they are unembarassable in how far they will go to express their hatred. by excusing their behavior, you are saying that we are making a big deal out of "nothing". that we should just sit back and let them continue to filibuster and obstruct and not give "our president a win" (words of a repub).
you say our President isn't a leader, that is why he can't get compromise from the repubs.
we say the repubs are keeping their PROMISE TO EACH OTHER to say "NO" to all of President Obama's policies, as evidenced by filibusters and obstruction on ideas and bills THAT THEY HAVE SUPPORTED IN THE PAST.
the repubs were led willingly by w. bush, and are responsible for two wars (not added to the deficit, ask mitch daniels) medicare part D, and other things ALL PUT ON THE CREDIT CARD. what exactly do the repubs need in a leader? it looks to me like they just need a republican, bush and mitt romney are proof of that.
when we see disrespectful things over and over that have happened to President Obama, we will rightfully judge them as racist, WHEN THEY HAVE NEVER HAPPENED TO ANOTHER WHITE PRESIDENT.
i don't know how you can read it any differently.
let go of your "magical thinking".
I mean how dumb are you? If Holder doesn't like white people why does he work with them?
Because there aren't any openings for a mediocre AG in Kenya!!!!
Ok I see your point however but what about the African Americas who are against the same things that these racist are. It just doesnt pass the smell test to me. Sure they are some racist on both sides but I would bet you my last dollar that if Obama was 100% white these so called racist would be against his policies just the same. In my opinion when your are the top dog and you blame all your failures on sombody else that means you are not a good leader. Its just my opinion but thats the way I see it.
CYNICAL CITIZEN I will bet my house that if a white person would have done the same thing he would have got the book thrown at him. Just look at the 2 reporters in Norfolk that were attacked by several black people. This should have been considered a hate crime. Trevon Martin was killed by a man who looks like hes hispanic and there marches , protest , Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpten were all bent out of shape. For god sakes Holder went after Roger Clemens for liying to congress. Holder himself has admitted to liying to congress. If your sincerly think its racist then you have to apply it to all races. If not it just dont pass the smell test.
Every time someone says he/she has faith the American public or voters will see the truth on how to vote, or stand fast against those who would buy their democracy . . . I have to laugh (LOL)
All I have to say is remember that the American public/voters voted for george bush and ronald reagan - twice each!
I'm hoping to God people have smartened up since then.
yea i know they are stupid!!!!!!!
The GOP have nothing to offer the 99% now or even in November...so they continue to obstruct to keep their faces in the news. This is nothing more than a witch hunt and a complete waste of time and tax dollars.
One thing the Republicans are forgetting is that the world is watching. If they are this sneaky and underhanded to their own people , what kind of behaviour do they try to get away with in other countries. They demonstrated to the world that they can't be trusted and that they will say and do whatever they want to achieve whatever end result they feel entitled to. People are supporting the Republican party just because they are Republicans, without admitting to themselves that their old party doesn't exist anymore. Bush proved to the world how he will lie and what extremes he would go to to get what he wanted and now the Tea Party Republicans have just confirmed they are all rotten to the core. Good luck to those sabre rattlers ever getting a decent coalition together again the next time they want to bring their type of democracy to another country.
im 15 and the way the republicans are doing is completely childish now listen to this look it up if you dont believe me there a psychic who had clairvoyance he saw what will happen in the future of Romney and this was in the 50's he was the Nostradamus of our time every one of his perdition's came true he said if he wins this country will fall,famine disease and death no disrespect to him but i dont wanna die or see any one else die or get extremely sick why cant they grow up
and this contempt thing that's bribing and discusting
Your 15 and you believe in magic enough said. Here is a clue no one has ever predicted the future what humans are good at is making links from what someone said in the past and saying ah ha after the event happened but no one has ever been able to use a prediction to stop an event. As far as the doom and gloom predictions go History is packed with those as well. Fact of life just because you don't want to die, get sick reality is you accept that you have no say in the matter so you just enjoy each day as it happens and ignore the bad moments that come into your life, remember they are only bad moments why let a moment ruin your day so you miss out on the good moments. Nothing last forever.
Karl Rove is simply a pimp who hooks-up a politician with a john, excuse me a 'donor' who injects more AIDS into America's political system. When people hear the name Karl Rove; they should think of Josef Gurbles, he was Hitler's Minister of Propaganda. Gurbles must have been a hero for Rove.
what amazes me is no one did this when President bush and his crazy Vice president tortured and water boarded so many people. and when george bush lied about weapons of mass destruction
Because lunatics knew if they opened their mouths they would be picked up and air lifted out of the country for being terrorists. Lunatics get really brave when they know they have nothing to fear from the government, like when democrats are in charge because they have a tendency to allow freedom of speech. Want proof, GWB had people removed for wearing T shirts they didn't like or placed in free speech zones. Or how about having to sign loyalty oaths to hear GWB stumble over words. Now look at the way democrats handled the health care debates, not only were the Koch brothers busing in tea baggers to disrupt debate they often came armed. FFS could you see that happening at a GOP debate.
Now we know what time it is its take the President down time....They cant take him down with were he was born, then it was med care,now its something that george bush did so why ya not talking to the rep.....when the President got the job as Plesident USA was all ready losing job, no money out here an with a rep houses an congress what is he to do.....give him some help out here.......
AG Holder will get through this new episode of Tea Party drama in good working order. Attorney General Holder will go onto to make sure that the 1965 Voting Rights Act is enforced in key states and all states where GOP bullies want to keep citizens from voting. Don't worry, by next week or the week after new Tea Party drama will come around in another soap opera called "Fishing Expedition Round X, Y, or Z". What any of this Tea Party drama has to do with passing the American Jobs Act is simply beyond me. Remember all those "jobs, jobs, and more jobs" Speaker Boehner? Your do nothing GOP Congress has yet to pass a single jobs bill. So much for caring about the country. All the radical conservatives want to do is tear America down so the oligarchs get more corporate welfare/subsidies and tax cuts while the middle class suffers. Facts are inconvenient things for conservatives aren't they?
Holder will go onto to make sure that the 1965 Voting Rights Act is enforced in key states
He doesn't have time for that. He's under orders to protect the Panthers and nail rich white baseball players with big muscles.
lol
while the middle class suffers
It just proves that aspiring to be middle class is risky.