Top Talkers: The Morning Joe panel – including Mike Barnicle, New York Magazine's John Heilemann, Time's Mark Halperin and author Catherine Crier – discusses the latest from the G20 Summit in Mexico, the president's announcement on illegal immigration and Sen. Marco Rubio's response to Obama's announcement.
President Obama will speak to reporters tonight from Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, at the conclusion of the G-20 Summit.
The president is expected to be asked about his new immigration policy and the unrest in Syria and Egypt. The news conference will begin at around 8pET (watch it live on MSNBC or here on The Ed Show blog!).
Ed will report from Los Angeles with reaction and analysis from Eugene Robinson, MSNBC Analyst and Associate Editor and Pulitzer Prize winning Columnist for the Washington Post, and Democratic strategist Bob Shrum.
President Obama's new immigration policy is a big winner with Americans, but Mitt Romney still can't give a straight answer about whether he would keep it or get rid of it. Jose Antonio Vargas, TIME Magazine Contributor, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and founder of Define American, a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization dedicated to changing the conversation around immigration in the U. S., joins Ed for that.
Romney keeps telling us he's got a plan, but he keeps refusing to give us answers on some of the most critical issues facing this country. Is Romney another Tom Dewey?
Ed will ask Bob Shrum.
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President Obama's new immigration policy is a big winner with Americans, but Mitt Romney still can't give a straight answer about whether he would keep it or get rid of it. Jose Antonio Vargas, TIME Magazine Contributor, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and founder of Define American, a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization dedicated to changing the conversation around immigration in the U. S., joins Ed for that.
The gop had to take the loser romney for their presidential candidate, so who will the looser veep be? Maybe they will sneak in a veep they want and then evict romney as incompetent, so they can change players.
Romney keeps telling us he's got a plan, but he keeps refusing to give us answers on some of the most critical issues facing this country. Is Romney another Tom Dewey?
President Obama's new immigration policy is a big winner with Americans
Really?
What polls are you referencing for such an opinion? What facts are you using? Please share. :-)
Here's a fact.
Romney's daddy was an illegal alien (click here).
I want to see the baby daddy papers that prove he's legal.
I don't believe he is qualified to be president.
... Deport Romney. Deport Romney. Deport Romney. ...
Did you just hear that NUN Talking About paul ryan -- She Basically stated that he Is Half-A$$ed !!! hahahahahahaa !!!
Obama Plan Favored 2 to 1 by Likely Voters (click here).
GOP Official: Romney 'Still Deciding' on Immigration Stance
By Rebekah Metzler
May 8, 2012 RSS Feed Print
The national Republican Party's effort to highlight their Hispanic outreach operation was derailed Tuesday when a top official said she doesn't know what presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's position on immigration is.
Bettina Inclan, the director of Hispanic outreach for the Republican National Committee, offered the statement during a briefing with reporters when responding to a question about how she would motivate Latino voters to support Republicans given Romney's conservative stance on the hot-button issue.
"As a candidate, to my understanding, he's still deciding what his position on immigration is, so I can't talk about what his proposal is going to be, because I don't know," she said. "He's talked about different issues and what we saw in the Republican primary is that there is a very diverse opinion on how to deal with immigration. I can't talk about something that I don't know what the position is
Bloomberg poll, 65% approve. Independents approve. Democrats approve. It is the right thing to do. It is the humane thing to do.
Republicans are averse to ever doing the humane thing.
Democrats are averse to defending the Constitution and following the rule of law in our Republic. :-)
No we are not going to defend republican uneducated rewrites of the constitution or laws made up by Fox news viewers who can't even begin to understand simple words or word definitions.
Once again you make no sense whatsoever as you stumble over your own words and definitions without making a valid point. :-)
The one who doesn't make sense is you, you keep trying to play school teacher while showing your ignorance of every subject you post about. To you sentence structure means more then actually knowing what you are talking about. No matter how well you say it ignorance is still ignorance and good sentence structure doesn't make it more then well structured ignorance.
Why does Mitt continue to say that he has a plan for job creation, a plan for immigration, a plan for foreign policies, a plan for - O my goodnes! Where are the plans? Talk, talk, talk!!! Does he think we fell off a turnip truck and hit our head? The President has presented proposals after proposals and the Republicans have refused to work with the President. They (Republicans) do not care about the people. As Rep. Issa stated, "We own everything." Well excuse me slave master.
obama's plans over the past 3 1/2 yeras has done what???
How Congress is hurting jobs
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New York (CNNMoney) - Everyone in Congress says they want to help create jobs and economic growth.
But federal agencies and government contractors in the private sector, which actually hire people, may find that ironic. They are still in the dark about future funding levels because lawmakers have not said whether they will replace heavy-handed automatic spending cuts set to take effect next year.
FULL STORY
If this shows up on yours TM, it was meant for Stupidita.
Yes Liberals. Please tell us the details of the Obama Plans of "Hope, Change and Transformation" that you all chanted in 2008 that led to NO federal budgets for the past four years. Tell us how Obama's government 'trickle down' economics have reduced unemployment rates while placing our nation in $5 Trillion of NEW debt. Tell us which plans of Obama have been a success for all Americans. Tell us how he made our economy stronger given we have more Americans on food stamps, social security disability, welfare and unemployment. :-) His plan is bypass the Constitution.
Wow so true.... Vote NObama 2012!!
Romney is a looser......vote NOwillard 2012... not going to vote for a man with no plan!
OBAMA will be BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN -2012
Yes, Obama will be in the White House January 2012 to retrieve his suitcase as he's sent packing back to Chicago where he belongs. :-) I'm sure the folks in Illinois would love his job creation record.
Robme actually does have a jobs plan.
"The Plan" claims Romney is going to create jobs without consumer demand (kind of like how Karl Marx was used to create jobs in the former Soviet Union and China).
Not one word about how Romney will increase consumer demand.
Consumer demand is used to create jobs with capitolism.
I find that VERY interesting considering that the Soviet Union created the Tea Party indirectly through the Koch family fortune (click here).
Sounds like Republicans are lying when the point at liberals and shout "communist".
Even more interesting that Ayn Rand (the Tea Party matriarch) championed the use of gold as currency in the Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged. Kind of like how they do it in China and Russia (click here).
Looks like Koch and Rand criticized communism only so they could avoid being prosecuted by Joseph McCarthy.
Inquiring minds want to know more.
I want to know more!
Vatican, Obama's job's record beats the hell out of Bush's and Romney's in MAss put together. Romney was 47th. Bush, well......zero jobs gained by 08. Bush was all about loss, loss, loss.
Obama had zero jobs growth in August 2011 - an unusual accomplishment! HA! His administration said unemployment would not exceed 8% if Congress gave him his requested Stimulus Plan, which they did. GW Bush took 8 years to accumulate $5 Trillion in debt vs. Obama's 4 years to place the nation in $5 Trillion in new debt. Tell us how that's better than GW Bush? :-) Tell us how having more people on food stamps, unemployment and social security disability under Obama is better than GW Bush's record? Please tell us what Obama made better since becoming President. Let the fun begin!
Hey India---And we've got to remember Louisiana was under water, that's why his state beat them, if it wasn't for their tragedy Massachusetts would have been number 48th. in the nation when it came to job creation., Under Mitt's leadership.
Tell us how many jobs Obama created in his career leading up to the White House. Tell us what businesses he created and managed. How about which states he was Governor.... you know... any CEO experience? Obama said he was unqualified to be President in 2004. Ain't that the truth! :-)
Vatican----YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH
Since I seldom see it on this blog from the Liberals, I guess I have nothing to worry about. Thanks! :-)
# 2.8 -
(kind of like how Karl Marx was used to create jobs in the former Soviet Union and China).
Really? Karl Marx was an accomplished author that was the architect of the Communist movement. He died well before the Soviet Union was established, and he was not as you claim, used to create jobs in the former Soviet Union, or China. At the time of his death China was not a Communist country.
I'll give you credit for one thing, at least you spelled his name correctly.
When I read comments like yours I fully understand the dismal failure of our school system.
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Lawmakers are expected to take their time deciding how to replace the sequester of automatic cuts scheduled for next year. Experts say prolonging the uncertainty will hurt hiring this fall.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Everyone in Congress says they want to help create jobs and economic growth.
But federal agencies and government contractors in the private sector, which actually hire people, may find that ironic. They are still in the dark about future funding levels because lawmakers have not said whether they will replace heavy-handed automatic spending cuts set to take effect next year.
The so-called sequester -- which no one in Congress likes but can't agree on how to replace -- would total about $110 billion next year alone. Half the cuts would come from defense and the other half from nondefense spending on domestic programs.
Most don't expect lawmakers will reach a decision until the lame-duck session of Congress after Election Day, and possibly not until early 2013.
The problem is that prolonging the uncertainty is likely to cause serious hiring slowdowns and possible layoffs, experts and businesses said.
Related: Fiscal cliff likely to cause recession
"If the deleterious consequences ... are to be averted it must be done before the lame duck. Indeed, since most elected officials will spend most of the fall campaigning, the [cuts] must be dealt with by September," according to a recent report from the Bipartisan Policy Center.
Virgil Starkwell,
Karl Marx published a book that is discussed in every high school classroom when the topic of communism comes up.
That is because he invented it. Only capitalism existed before K. Marx.
High school graduates tend to know things that.
How old are you?
Jobs created by Obama (current and future):
Again, because you were to busy reveling in your own rant;
"Karl Marx was an accomplished author that was the architect of the Communist movement."
"He died well before the Soviet Union was established,"
Do you u n d e r s t a n d what I wrote? If not I will simplify it for you.
How old am I? Judging by your writing abilities, much older than you.
Do not feed the trolls.
Wow bro, you really hurt my feelings. :-P
Virgil Starkwell, If you are such an accomplished scholar, why did you use the preposition TO instead of the proper TOO before the word busy in your first sentence?
Also, a comma would be placed after, "if not", by someone with a decent education, such as you claim to have had.
Where did you go to school? With all due respect.
Glad to see you here and strong India. Good Girl.
I'm pretty tough, TM. I just don't suffer fools gladly, and we sure have a few here tonight.
Gotta watch the Scorpio temper, though.
Obama Twists Romney’s Economic Record
A new ad from the Obama campaign takes aim at Mitt Romney’s performance as governor of Massachusetts, claiming he had “one of the worst economic records in the country.” But the ad overreaches with several of its claims.
# 2.22 - It's a petty mind that will focus on petty issues.
Architect is an appropriate term to compare Karl Marx's relation to communism. When you say the inventor of a political movement things become a bit fuzzy....there are other perspectives if we want to say someone was the creator or the first
Voted up CC.
Vatican12442 banned, rereg of Save The Republic.
stupidita banned, rereg of 56panhead.
Try another site, folks - it's not worth it.
http://instagr.am/p/MGs393yzF2/
Tyler, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Did I mention, you're terrific! Thank you. These two caused so many of us to nearly lose our mind!
Obama is trying to buy votes...
in 2009 did he care about this issue?
Notice that he has lost the black vote, so now he is trying to get the Latino vote...
Obama has failed..
Wake the "F" up and smell the unemployment , and the 40 million on food stamps.
You think that 300,000 + illegal immigrants will keep him in office???
You are so full of s*@t. LOL
In the Republican primary did Romney say the status of undocumented children was an issue of concern as he did today?
Answer: no he said they should all sel deport
Did Romney say let Detroit go bankrupt? Yes, and then he said he never did. Now he says it cost jobs...not sure how that jives it was all his idea claim.
SB1070, a model for the nation Romney says, then he says he never said that(we have the tape)
Romney Care, model for the nation, no he says he never said that.(we have tape)
You can't attack someone's consistency and then stump for Mitt Romney
Romney's daddy was an illegal alien (click here).
That giant sucking sound is the Tea Party brain removal machine.
I want to see the baby daddy papers that show he's legal. I don't believe it.
I'm looking forward to the Presidential Debates later this year between Obama and Romney, which will highlight the failed socialist experiment from the Progressives. Obama will be embarrassed! :-)
We are also looking forward to the Presidential Debate when Obama mops the floor with the willard, and his and the kochroaches Fascist plan to own this country and turn the population into slaves. The man who will not talk about anything important can not become important. He can go back home with is suitcase and un-pack it there. He'll cry.
OBAMA BACK in the WHITE HOUSE AGAIN in 2012 ! ! !
Obama can't decide if he wants his 'big government' plans to go Communist as he learned from his parents and mentor in Hawaii, or Fascist based on his lessons from Hitler's Germany where he tried to expand the governments role in the financial (Wall Street) and manufacturing (auto manufacturing and other industry) sectors of the economy. The GOP will ensure limited government that supports the freedom and liberties of us citizens. :-) God Bless our Republic; and defend against Democracy!
Stupida, So many of us thought you were gone. Some of us prayed.
Vatican, You talk nonsense. Why are you here? You clearly don't want to have a dialogue. Neither one of you want that.
Vatican,
The Soviet Union actually created the Tea Party indirectly through the Koch family fortune (click here).
Pointing at liberals and shouting "communist" is like shouting "fire" to stampede a crowded theater so you can hide a murder.
Obama embraces the Occupy movement, which also received support from the American Fascist Party, American Communist Party and American Socialist Party. Great company! Obama received funds from George Soros that said he was excited about the Nazis as a child in an occupied nation.
The Tea Party has actually been proven to be funded by a communist fortune.
ByYasha Levine
The Roots of Stalin in the Tea Party Movement
The Koch family, America's biggest financial backers of the Tea Party, would not be the billionaires they are today were it not for the godless empire of the USSR.
Here is a better historical fact, one that the Kochs don't like to repeat in public: the family's initial wealth was not created by the harsh, creative forces of unfettered capitalism, but by the grace of the centrally planned economy of the Soviet Union. The Koch family, America's biggest pushers of the free-market Tea Party revolution, would not be the billionaires they are today were it not for the whim of one of Stalin's comrades
George Soros - Nazi sympathizer Occupy Wall Street supporter - exposed! youtube.com/watch?v=BO8pFBDSLPI
You are a lying, disgusting, illiterate, uninformed, ignorant pig.
Yep teabaggin-gop-neo-con-Nazi's R PIGS !!
Purposefully
Ignorant
Greedy
Sleazebags
Booo Hoo Hoo little piggy. :-) India, don't you have some streets to walk this evening? Vagina work
Wow - Sounds like a personal attack to me !!!!
You're slipping up MD; you wrote something coherent even though you act like an illiterate here. :-)
Houston......I think we have a problem!
Houston......I know we have a problem!
Don't retort, fire off.
Please don't block the line of sight, my dear friend. <s> Can't shoot when you're in the way. Wrote back to ya.
Hey Kathe, I didn't mean to bump you, just trying to keep my friend from getting agrivated by the trolls and re-regs. Seems this one has a mind to stir things up. I did take care of business and had a visit with my friend.
I saw it . Got him. Disgusting, dirty minded, low life pig.
I love listening to thin skinned hypocrites that attack and then cry like the bullies they are. Enjoy! :-)
It would be nice if you came here and delivered some information instead of trying to get one of us to fester and blow up at you. What do you want? What do you need? You can call our policy makers names if you want to. But don't attack the individuals posting here. It is not acceptable.
Thankful mom, Unfortunately for our blog, that seems to be why they are here.
Attacking us is all they care to do.
I think it would be best for me to put them on ignore so I don't get angry in the first place, which is what they want. It may be all they want from us.
Always a good idea........ as we always say DFTFT..... DDR.
OH O MSNBC watch out you are going of script here asking if the Immigration announcement was "masterful political move" did you not get the memo from the white house saying it wasn't a political decision i guess you was to busy with your deceitful editing of Romney's speeches to have read it
LOL Romney speeches, you mean those fact free pep rallies Mittens holds to tell everyone of the misinformed nation that Obama is bad and yet has to put out what he will do except more tax give aways to the wealthy paid for by the middle class that have created nothing but economic failure for the 34 years it has been used. Give it a rest Mr I refuse to take a stand has no plans.
I don't think president Obama's decision to come out with an immigration policy had anything to do with this coming election, Romney has had months to talk to the people about this but he hadn't gotten permission as yet, now he's stuck with his hand in the cookie jar.. That guy romney is nothing but a stuffed shirt and not quit as smart as Bushman is was or ever will be, I think Romney has a terrible mental problem I really do..
President Obama had over 3 1/2 years
#5 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:23 PM EDT
"I don't think president Obama's decision to come out with an immigration policy had anything to do with this coming election"
But waited until three and a half months before Elections to Announce his idea????
But it HAD NOTHINg TO DO WITH THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS???
O.K. L.M.A.O.
Right yet when GWB raised the terrorist alert from yellow to orange because OBL sent GWB a prerecorded message every election cycle that was just honest politics. Poor little guy still playing the broken wing nonsense.
Hey can-0-Schlitz your guess is a illegal immigrant!!!!!!!!!
you know what mitt romney view is he will start deporting in a minute and that is a fact so watch and see .
More wishful thinking and fantasies of the Liberals on this blog. You'll learn his plan and policies real soon, which will receive support from a majority of the Latino community. :-) Enforce the laws on the books!
ROTFFL....... YOU are the one who is fantasizing! LOL
Well of course mom he has all sorts of fantasies going on, Mittens has always been his man, he will be rich soon, he has an opinion that wasn't given to him, he is smart, he has seen a real vagina just leave out he saw it on internet porn, his blow up doll is a real person and he is in a real relationship with the blow up doll. Really he needs to get out of moms basement and into a psych ward is apparent because posting on blogs only increases his delusions.
Romney answered. He's not endorsing any amnesty wild goose chase every 2 years that can't be enforced. He's going to obey the law. How refreshing.
Nice speech The President gave, He sounded so well informed about the problems with The Europeans, as well as Syria. -As well as the citizens of The USA.--Get some rest Mr. President.
He is a great puppet that says whatever he's feed by his Progressive puppet masters. He hasn't a clue based on his failed policies in America. Get some rest Obama, your strings must be stressed.
I think I'm seeing someone else with out a clue. ROTFFL.......LOL.
what was the best part of the press conference???
the end!!!
nothing was said
nothing was accomplished
Russia and China and Iran will not cooperate
and the BROTHERHOOD has taken over Egypt
you know what they say President Obama
You win some You lose some
Maybe you're referring to Mitt Romney. Oh well I forgot his puppets has a mouth disease;---President Obama has stuck his foot in them.
O.K. Rachael
Please share with us what actually was accomplished in Mexico?
Why do you guys always ask us girls to explain thing to you?
Just---are you watching Rachel? The President is offering his expert advice on how the Europeans can come out of their recession. He is also probably responsible for the action Russia took to turn their ship around that was headed to Syria, to do only God knows what. I'm sure the true account of the Brilliant mind of our President, will remain secret. But you gotta know that He did bring his big stick with him.
Because you're often full of hot air that bloviate nonsense while telling your Liberal men to explore their feminine side. :-) Obama + Billiant Mind = Oxymoron. I do enjoy the rants of mindless minions.
This from a guy who believes that an insane 3rd rate soap salesman was the greatest republican since Lincoln.
Bless your heart.
thanks six,
Bob Shrum......... is a totlal moron...
Like al the guess on MSLSD.
Can't wait to watch the dyke show....... I maen the rachel maddow show..
I sure hope she dresses like a "man"...
Well don't watch it.
I'm pretty sure it's the Randal Maddow Show because I swear I'm seeing a man as the host. :-)
I think
you
CROSSED
the
line
Shame on you!
You wish. I can talk about how a person looks just as you do about Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and Mitch McConnell. Enjoy! :-)
No you can't.......
because you agreeded
not to insult
People who work for MSNBC!
None of us agreed not to talk about congress, candidates or other networks or fools.
They crossed the line days or weeks ago, TM. They keep getting away with it.
Waaah Waaah Waaah goes the Liberal whine machine on this blog as you folks cross the line every day. :-) Insult? What makes you think she doesn't like dressing like a man? Now wipe the sand out.
Waah Waah Waah goes the republican whine machine that want-a-be in power, but fear they won't be.
Fear? No, we'll leave that to the desperate Democrats that rely on fear, deception and lies. The GOP is confident of a win this November against your incompetent man-child. :-) Beautiful liberal tears.
India, do you know how to fire off? Especially since he suggested in #3.15 insulting you. I'll be gone for a minute. Libs stay civil please. What is the advice of the Bible?Heap coals of kindness on the evil head.
I already fired one off on India.
Do not feed the trolls.
TM, Fire off? No, I sure don't.
That is ok, India, just try to stay cool and don't let him set you off. Since that is while he is here for. Don't want you getting in trouble because he is needling you. We enjoy your fruitful comments. Too bad so many come here to just disrupt the conversation that is constructive.
Thanks, TM. It means a lot to me to hear that from you.
You know we have some conservatives that do not stoop to the insults, and they remain. We disagree but we also some times find common ground. We find out they are pretty nice guys. Some are here for other purposes. They feel fear that we can talk together and let each other air our arguments. If they don't like what we say they rebut and if I don't think they are right I look it up and post it for their information. That is what some don't like for me to do. Sixpicks and I don't agree on much. But he has taught me a lot. We don't have insults between us and we often disagree. But we are both for America, not just parties. That is to be appreciated. After all we a all human.
TM, well, MOST of us are. LOL Thanks.
If Vat, fired one off he would be discovered. I hope he did!
Romney is reluctant to make a comment on immigration because he is afraid of loosing the crazy RIGHT. It will only take one word and they will turn on him. He is a coward.
You hit the nail on the head Martha. Too bad you can't knock some sense in it.
How about the "Penis" dialogs...
Think that will draw a crowd, how about penis's in the park??
Why don't you try it?
See if you could draw a crowd.
We'd have to have binoculars to see yours, even from the front row.
Now thats worth a LOL.
Teapublicans CAN'T....UNDERSTAND....NORMAL......THINKING!
XXX they believe Archie Bunker was a liberal, what does that tell you. BOL
I love the fact that the Catholic Sisters have picked up the Challenge.
This is the beginning of some big change for the Catholic Church St.Malachy said it would be end of the line for Popes...I guess the sisters have had it and will have Nun of it!
Whomie: If so than Raygunz waz a Democrat! But he would by today's boyz!
ROTFFL......LOL.
What would Archie Bunker & Ronald Reagan say to Obama?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMp8k0kPzXU
Archie Bunker is not happy with Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtRbIz-GHo8&feature=related
Except Archie Died in 2001, well Carol O'Conner did. Archie as O'Connor portrayed him was a typical working WASP who was bigoted and racist to the core as well as believing women where meant to be seen not heard, Archies views of the world came from his uneducated ignorance of the world he lived in, gee does that ring a bell. He was a product of the times, his main reason for not liking Obama would have been his racist hatreds. Nothing more nothing less. OConnor who played Archie never shared Archies views.
Sixpick.....I don't want to think like Archie.....what a bigot he was.
Get this in your head liberals.... abortion is not health care!!!!!
You are the only one who suggested it was?
Unwanted and starving is a longer end term plan!
You will have to make that more clear for her to understand.
stupidita,
Are you saying that you want to:
Which one?
DNFTT.
It is best to stop battling trolls until you learn how to use mirrors.
The worst thing is an emotional response. Trolls feed on emotions like blood sucking vampires.
Trolls don't like what they look like, and they are capable of seeing their reflection.
My post #14.4 is an example of a "holding up a mirror".
Trolls never tell the truth. That makes them vulnerable to fact checking.
They always claim that lies are facts and popular things are unpopular.
Trolls hate it when you explain their own false claims in a more obvious way (holding up a mirror).
Trolls tend to stop after the lies become blatantly obvious to everyone.
It starts to get really funny when they don't stop because it becomes more and more ridiculous when trolls try harder and harder to defend more and more lies.
There is a clever mathematical formula from game theory that says that an exchange involving false information cannot continue indefinitely because it becomes impossible for the lier to keep track of everything they have said.
So ... it is impossible for trolls to win when you use mirrors.
So that's why they always get things BASSACKWORDS!
Remember what? When in doubt give the Etch-A-Sketch a shake!
The nation magazine has a whooping circulation of 200,000..
And it is the donations that keep that fish wrap afloat.
It don't make no money!!!!!
well. stupid, nor is the business of no one else, beside the patient, and the dr.
Hey, Rachael.....saw MD for a minute on the other vine. I can't wait until the debate when Obama mops the floor with that troll.
Hey TM--yeah I didn't know which one to get on, so I just posted on the first one. I guess we will be split-up tonight.
Just rotate and note the puppet mistakes when you re-read.....Ho, Ho, Ho. I think we will be seeing less of some republican re-runs.
I'm out of this zoo these two are turning the vine into. Goodnight.
Do not feed the trolls.
Leave their threads empty.
Make them play with themselves.
OK.....we know better. We will take your advice. But you know they just follow us around.
Hold up a mirror and show the troll what s/he looks like.
G.O.P. political trolls stop posting the minute they figure out that their own posts are actually being used to convince people to vote Democrat.
Every republican platform position is unpopular or untrue this year.
That is why Romney is flip-flopping.
Create feedback on that topic.
Visit my site for post suggestions.
Crackheadawards, What does "fire off" mean? Tm asked me, and I should do it, I guess,, over what Vatican said to me at #3.15.
I sent you and explanation. Don't worry about what he said. It was collapsed.
TM, I am sorry, I didn't get it. Did you use the Harvard e-mail? That's no good now. Kathe has my new one. She can give it to you. Or Larry. I just spoke to Larry, in fact.
Well, it's after midnight and something tells me it's time to turn in. Once you get the right e-mail, let me know what you said.
Someone please give her a tissue to wipe her bully tears as you liberals are thin skinned hypocrites that can't take what you dish out. What a wuss. :-) I hold a mirror up to you all and you run away with your tails between your legs.
Vat. Hope you really enjoy throwing vile insults at people you know nothing about. But at least it tells us more about how little you righties care about the human race. NONE. Probably abuse animals as well. Just one more proof of how empty the right wing is.
Notice ed can not get anyone of any credibility on his show!!!
Hacks and want to bees..
Sound like the republican campaign.
Oh look a green star... that and $2.50 get you a cup of coffee at any starbucks..
Did all you liberals take the band-aid off and eat your peas yet?
Why do you always ask questions that don't make sense and have nothing to do will all the above information.
Pee brain! Can't help but revert back to the trickle down theory!
I don't get it. She just talks nonsense all the time. Nonsense and insults and hate. She must be here to ruin Ed's blog. I never know what the hell she's even saying, and she's damn near illiterate anyway. Or he I don't even know what she/he is. Nor do I care.
Never happen, it is too popular. Note how many members of the entire vine there are for this network, and how so many stay, and stay, and who leaves and leaves. I suspect that is what the trolls are afraid of.....
Stupid-- No, we had the Hannity diet, beans, rice and some cheap meat.
I think he said some dog food, but that was too expensive for the poor.
Let me quote obama: "It's time to eat ours peas, time to take the band-aide off"
So again I ask you liberals have you eaten your peas and taken your band-aides off yet?
Do not feed the trolls.
Don't fret Republicons, once Mitt Romney gets Bush's Brain into his skull he'll be able to stand on his own two feet by morning and then you can follow your $6 Billion Dollar Man into the valley of darkness and hope to see some light that could the oncoming Obama Express!
You have heard of the Paper Lion...Willard is the Paper Candidate and Obama is the Shredinator!
hey-X-
Obama couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag without a teleprompter. Biden is more gangsta than Obama. The only thing he's shredding are American jobs and our economy. :-) Shredinator. HA
vat-Rat - Howzit goin' ?? You still fishin' ?? Funny how you cant see into the water !!! hehehe !!
hey MD--we gotta stop meeting like this. how r u?
shhhhh - keep it down - im-ok- how bout you !!!
Well, MD, I got fire off, so I think we need to keep it on a low flame for a while and see what happens. I'm on the winning side. and I know you are.
Do not feed the trolls.
.http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-romney-one-president-time-014926297.html
President Barack Obama scolded Mitt Romney and his campaign late Tuesday for violating the unwritten rule that American politics stops at the water's edge by criticizing him overseas.
"I would point out that we have one president at a time, and one administration at a time," Obama said as he wrapped up a trip to Mexico centered on a summit of the Group of 20 nations.
"And I think traditionally the notion has been America's political differences end at the water's edge," the president told reporters, echoing a message from Republican Sen. Arthur Vandenberg in the 1940s.
(Vandenberg had urged Americans "to unite our official voice at the water's edge" to achieve "maximum authority" against the country's enemies. However, the senator had also affirmed that foreign policy "must be totally debated," though not for partisan gain, but to forge a consensus.)
Top Obama aides bristled recently when an adviser to Romney, Columbia Business School Dean R. Glenn Hubbard, assailed the president's handling of the European financial crisis in the pages of the German business journal Handelsblatt.Asked about Hubbard's piece, which described Obama's policies as "unwise" and charged they "reveal ignorance" of how Europe got into the mess it's in, Obama replied: "With respect to Mr. Romney's advisers, I suggest you go talk to Mr. Romney about his advisers."
"I'd also suggest that he may not be familiar with what our suggestions to the Germans have been. And I think sometimes back home there's a desire to superimpose whatever ideological arguments are taking place back home onto a very complicated situation in Europe," Obama said
to slep 2night i replay the speech the prez did 2night
Joe---I know doesn't it make you sleep more easily knowing, how good our President is, when it comes to National Security.... gotta love our President---He's one of a kind.
Tell me what you think Obama accomplished when it comes to National Security besides approving an operation to kill OBL based on SOF & intelligence assets put into play by the Bush administration.
A Quote from G.W.--"I don't know where he is, I just don't think about him that much". Thanks a lot President Bush for leaving a trail of famous Quotes behind, just in case some one get's the wrong impression of what your time in office consisted of.-"Good Job Brownie"
Not to mention that GWB ignored warnings that OBL was plotting an attack and 9/11 happened under GWB's watch.
Well, we all know what a good ole boy gw was, and he lived up to his ignorance.
TM--Yes He Did--An Accomplishment That Will Forever be Undefeated. He Holds The Record, And It Will Never Be Broke. -I Hope And Pray!
did we forget about JOBS oh its a dummycrat thing
It sure as hell isn't a Rethuglican thing.
Hi people!
The Bush family and the Bin Laden family were/are friends and playing patty-cake with each other for years. Can hear Bush's Brain now: "Nah. He wouldn't do that. I know the dude." Not really. 9/11 was an inside job....there's no doubt in my mind. Wasn't a truther until about a month ago.
Don't you know where papa bush was on the day of 9/11? Having lunch with OBL brother. They had and organization together at that time. Now what was it called?
Can't believe it!!!!!! Kathe and I actually have some agreement on something. Not necessary all of the details but definitely some agreement.
Wow, ...
- Romney and his camp acts like Neil Monroe! They must know that there is only one president of the United States! He is President Obama!
- The Catholic Sisters are calling on Paul Ryan and Joihn Boehner that these two politicians are telling the 1/2 truth about their church teaching!
- Wow, Mitt is the repeat of the 1948 republican presidentital candidate (Dewey)!
Obama will repeat Jimmy Carter in 1980 when he's made a one term President. We see it coming! :-)
At Least he wont repeat dubyas crap = like robMe Would - IF !!!
Tell me how Obama made our economy stronger and reduced unemployment compared to Bush. :-)
v-Rat - Do your own research and Open your Eyes - Once you pull your head out !!! Tissue !!
What a cop out for being so lazy that you can't even defend your simple statements. Typical MD on drugs. :-)
Hey MD, Been careful lately. I was worried about You, but are glad you are back on it.
The economy is the most important issiue and has been since Obamas been in. Its very discuraging that Obama puts other issiues ahead of the economy. He did the same thing with health care when he should have been focusing on the economy. The supreme court will have a ruling any day now on that law. Why is just about everything Obama is involved in has to be ruled on in court. It would have made a lot more sense for him to pass the imigration thing legaly through congress while the dems conttolled eveything. Just seems real fishy that he waits until a few months before election and then he does it illegaly. I personaly think hes trying to buy the latino vote, thats the way it appears. I just dont see any other reason for not getting it done in the first 2 years. Hes trying to con the latinos into voting for him.
Romney robs retirement pension funds to make a living (a.k.a.: turd sandwich).
The government investigator for pension fraud used to work for Romney (Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation).
Crackhead I dont see where any of that is relavent to Obama not focusing on the economy. He had his chance we will just have to see what Romny does. Obama decided not to make the economy his #1 issiue, we will just have to see what Mitt does.
http://www.politicususa.com/job-killing-dummies-gop-blame-lack-jobs.html
http://www.politicususa.com/john-boehner-deliberately-killing-3-million-construction-jobs.html
Thankful mom Im glad you posted those links. It shows the lack of leadership from Obama he had a dem controlled congress and he let the minorty stop him(wow). I sure as hell dont advise anybody to vote Obama back in he cant lead. How in the hell do you let the minorty stop you? He however was able to get the health care law passed. Why were the repuks not able to stop that? So if they could in reality if they could kill jobs then they should have been able to kill the health care law right.
When the hell did it become the executive's responsibility to hold congress' hand? The GOP are nothing but cry babies always wanting to talk about how those mean old democrats and Obama are mean to them. The GOP couldn't have made that argument before 2010 but look at what they have delivered on the economy. Zero legislative efforts, abortion, unions, sharia law, further unnecessary and illogical deregulation. The backseat drivers had their oppurtunity to share the wheel they did not take it or use it for anything other than personal gain Romney has been complicit in this as well. Not one single specific policy plan by the Romney campaign. The tin man has given no solutions to anything and they do not hide that they will not make any plan until after the election. Just like one romney spokesman said that women would have to wait til after the primary to find out the governor thought on women's issues.
Look up the senate and house rules, it's called a filibuster or for those of you on the right your oppose everything and make no attempt to compromise no matter who suffers routine. The GOP can heckle if they like but the people know that the repbulicans only solutions are deregulation and lower taxes.
Well let me break it to you we are not living under any new Obama tax policy nor has regulation increased drastically. We are on the Bush diet plan, lower taxes than most of ameircan history and less oversight. Taxes have no gone up,so unless the GOP wants to argue that Bush's policies on taxes were communist because they weren't historically lower enough. Remember you think GW was good and that he wasn't responsible for the state of the economy. Deregulation has happend for many years...bye bye wallstreet reform, glass steagal, holding banks accountable.
So if the GOP has such different great ideas that are so bold and daring why will they never tell us what those are? Fact is you can say whatever you want about the president but as you admit in your high rolling he has tried and the Romney let it die party has not
You wanna know why the economy isn't doing well? It's because we are still living under Bush era policy that the dems have been too cowardly to take down. So when you've got a candidate who wants more of the same failed policies and brags about it then it's quite simple to find the validity of their ideas is nonexistent.
Trickle down economics is wealth redistribution from the middle class up to the upper class and that's where it stops. Trickle down is really vaccuum up if we want a healthy economy we need policy that will keep the disposition of job creators (nope not rich, the working class) in mind. We need policy that does not forget about the majority of the population and is designed to help the middle class
helping the rich along only has helped the rich(gasp) so maybe we should help the middle class for once and see what happens..........this is a consenus and rule by majority nation aka a democracy(more specifically a republic) and thus the masses should have the most power on policy and that is not the case. It is the small cabal of right and left wing politicians in cahoots with corporations(which are not people) to establish autocracy.
Romney's lack of spine, entitled personality, lack of being aware of the struggles of the middle class since he has never been in it a day in his life nor has his wife who has never had to work for a wage
The Romney's move into the white house bye bye American basketball court so they can have room to dressage. I mean can you imagine that, it's not a feudal era palace.......but seeing as Romney represents not only cowardice but plutocracy it is not surprising
Cynical, Good post. You know, when I read the comments left by the right, I almost hope Romney wins. They will be quite shocked by what he will do to them.
Very shocked and very upset, especially if they care at all about this country.
Lets just use a little common sense here Obama just issiued another excutive order to withhold evidence in the fast and fury case. Now common sense tells me Obama could have issiued an excutive order or what ever the lawers wanted to call it on jobs bills. Lets just face the facts Obama dont give a damn about jobs. The repuks on the other hand have actualy passed 30 jobs bills in the house. This is fact so saying they havent is a flat out lie. On the other hand the dem controlled senate want even do the job that theywere elected to do and at least take a vote on these jobs bills. These are actualy facts so how can you possibly literaly think its the repuks when they have factualy passed 30 jobs bills. Only a f u c kin g idiot would not believe the actual facts. these are documented facts the senate refuses to even take a vote on the bills.
Rolla you conceed that your beloved GOP congress is not doing their job and the president isn't there to hold their hands. While you may think that the people in congress aren't smart enough to do their job by themselves like adults....which is probably true....they are grown ups if they can't do their job then fire them. Fire all 535 even.
The GOP HAS NOT PASSED ANY JOB BILL THESE 30 JOB BILLS YOU'VE BEEN FOOLED INTO BELIEVING WILL HELP THE ECONOMY BRING DEREGULATION ONLY.
That will not make jobs in a market is not lacking supply but demand. Create demand you will create jobs. It hilarious for you people to think the 08 collapse was because of too much regulation....yeah if we just paid less attention to the subprime loans and wallstreet trades this would have never happened......save that for SNL that's sooo incredibly hilarious.........where do get these jokes(beliefs)
If they care about creating jobs why all the filibusters? Why vote down an act to allow women retribution when they receive illegal unequal pay? Why do thing on the president's proposal which is generous since it is in no way his job to right any bills? Why focus on abortion? Why focus on sharia law? Why attack Dodd-Frank, a peice of legislation that never went far enough in the first place? Why? Nothing on Boxer-Inhofe which go 70+ votes in the senate?
Your beloved republicans have add many oppurtunities to put in their input and have not sincerly used any of them. Probably because we are living under their program for the economy, the bush taxes haven't expired, no one's taxes are higher. Corporate income tax isn't changed. Hundreds of thousands of fed and state workers have lost pension benefits or their entire jobs? So bring out something new not from the GW administration on the economy and maybe the people will take that seriously.
So congress with a 9% approval rating is okay in the GOP play book it seems
Lay off the bottle and whatever's got you rolling so high. Stop trying to get our daughters, wives, and sister's vaginas and start actually doing something other than political theatre. Maybe help your candidate actually come up with a plan for the economy.
All I know it is a fact that the repuks haved passed 30 job bills in the house. This is a fact, these bills are being held up in the senate by the dems. This is actulay fact and truthful infomation. So with all do respect Cynical CITIZEN you are a flat out lier.
come on dummycrats all you got to say there are doing that to Holder cause he is black
And all you need is an education.
Well, that came out of the blue, joe?
What about Roger Clemons Holder went after him but let the black panthers go. Holder went after Clemons because he was white but he let the black Panther go because they were black.
- Obama has a succesful foreign policy as well as national security!
- he ended 1 war and will be ending the next one!
- Obama uses the 21st century technology while the rep thinking is still in the 20th century! Leave it to Mitt we are still in Iraq, and also in Libia, ... and many other places!!!!
SC, Obama has an excellent foreign policy record. In addition, he knows to use high tech, state of the art weapons, like drones. Way, way less collateral damage.
Boots on the ground cannot fight the "war" on terror. The last ten years of American lives lost is proof of that. Obama is intelligent in his approach. Not to mention, on his watch, no terrorists have hit us and many have been killed who tried!
Can't say the same for the guy on duty when 9/11 happened.
And as oblivious and out of touch as Romney is, well...I can't even GO THERE!
@--JOE--let's not forget; it's a cry of desperation from the right. Look at me! Look at Me! Some body Please look at ME~~~~
What is it that Sara says. Lock and Load, Lock and Load. The troops have arrived. They are so needy, one brought friends.