The closing speech in Lansing on June 18, 2012 after Eve Ensler's highly-acclaimed performance of The Vagina Monologues, as performed by female members of the House and professional actresses.
A Michigan lawmaker who was barred from speaking because Republicans objected to her saying "vagina" during debate over anti-abortion legislation performed The Vagina Monologues last night on the Statehouse steps in Lansing.
"I'm overwhelmed," Brown told the crowd. "Who would have thought one little floor speech could end in this?"
Capitol facilities director Steve Benkovsky estimated about 2,500 people watched the "Vaginas Take Back the Capitol!" event, although other sources such as Think Progress estimated 5,000 people in attendance.
Eve Ensler, whose groundbreaking play about women's sexuality still packs theaters 16 years after it debuted, oversaw the performance by Democratic state Rep. Lisa Brown, other lawmakers and several actresses.
Watch the video of Ensler closing the performance:
Brown made her comments during debate last week on legislation that supporters say would make abortions safer but that opponents say would make it harder for women to get abortions.
"I'm flattered you're all so concerned about my vagina," she told Republicans. "But no means no."
Brown was barred from speaking in the House during the next day's session. House Republicans say they didn't object to her saying "vagina." They said Brown compared the legislation to rape, violating House decorum. Brown denied the allegation on The Ed Show on Friday.
Watch the video:
Democrat Rep. Lisa Brown was censured after ending a speech against new abortion legislation by saying, "Finally, Mr. Speaker, I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but 'no' means 'no'.'" Rep. Brown was not allowed to speak on a different legislative issue Thursday. Brown talks to the Ed Show about what she meant to say in her speech and when she'll be allowed to speak again on the Michigan House floor.
Democratic Rep. Barb Byrum said she also was barred from speaking last Thursday because she referred to vasectomies during the debate.
"I'm overwhelmed by how much attention we're getting around the world," Byrum told the crowd last night, just before appearing on The Ed Show. Watch the video:
Hundreds of protestors gathered on the lawn of the Michigan statehouse to listen to a performance of "The Vagina Monologues". Eleven state congresswomen participated in the performance. The demonstration follows the Republican censure order which silenced two state representatives after a debate about an abortion bill last week. We talk to one of the women who was shut down after the abortion debate, Representative Barb Byrum.



Unstoppable !!!
Ha! They never made any measurable progress let alone be "unstoppable" - perhaps the flapping of their glossy lips. Democrats always find a way to make themselves appear irrelevant to the American people with their lame theatrics. I'm actually glad they play these childish, ridiculous and wacky leftist games because that tells me they all still "don't get it". Completely aloof as America rallies against Progressives and their failed polices while ignoring jobs and the economy. Remember Obama said, "employment in the private sector is just fine." HAHA! :-) You're providing us great fodder for ads!
Childish games? When is standing up for a persons rights childish games? 2 elected officials were denied their legal right to speak on the house floor. Is that childish games? if so, is you radical right wingers playing them.
Since you're a whiny liberal, you probably don't understand there is a Code of Conduct and Rules of the House when you speak on the floor of any state House, Senate or Congress. If you chose to break those rules, there are penalties; has nothing to do with restricting freedom of speech. This is about assuming responsibility according to the rules while using your freedom of speech. Here is a recent example of an idiot Democrat in Congress, Rep. Bobby Rush, that was escorted from House floor for wearing hoodie in honor of Trayvon Martin.
cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57405846-503544/dem-rep-bobby-rush-escorted-from-house-floor-for-wearing-hoodie-in-honor-of-trayvon-martin/
Oh look the dude that did 3 tours in the Nam..
larry74 you have yet to tell us all just part of the military you were in...
III MAF 3rd Marines 68'-70' here...
stupida
You just weren't paying attention. You got there after it was over. I was there Nov. '65. First major battle the US was involved in. But then you wouldn't know about battles.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/13/498186/michigan-anti-abortion-bill-passes-house/
Five Reasons Why Michigan’s Anti-Abortion Bill Is The Nation’s Worst (UPDATED
1) Bans Abortions After 20 Weeks, Even For Rape And Incest Victims: A woman would not be able to have an abortion after 20 weeks of gestation based on the widely disputed idea that a fetus can feel pain after that point. The only exception would be if a woman’s life was in danger.
2) Transforms Doctors Into Detectives: The Republican-backed legislation would make it a crime for anyone to coerce a woman into having an abortion. Doctors will have to give their patients a questionnaire to inform them of the illegality of coercion and determine if the woman had been coerced or is the victim of domestic abuse before the abortion procedure.
3) Limits Access For Rural Women: Under the omnibus bill, doctors would have to be physically present to perform a medication abortion, thus preventing a doctor from administering abortion-inducing medication by consulting via telephone or internet. This would especially hurt rural women, who may have to travel hours to meet in-person with a specialist.
4) Requires Doctors To Purchase Costly Malpractice Insurance: If HB 5711 goes into effect, then doctors would be required to carry $1 million in liability insurance if they perform five or more abortions each month or have been subject to two more more civil suits in the past seven years, among other requirements. But the qualifications are so vague that almost all doctors who perform abortions could be required to carry the additional liability insurance at
a potential cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
5) Regulates Clinics Out Of Existence: HB 5711 would create new regulations so that any clinic that provides six or more abortions in a month or one which advertises abortion services would have to be licensed as a “freestanding surgical outpatient facility.” That means that even if a clinic does not offer surgical abortions, it would be required to have a full surgical suite.
Now that the state House has passed the largest of the three bills, it will likely approve the two companion measures as well. Even though lawmakers rushed the bill through the House, the state Senate is not expected to vote on the measure until September. The body is composed of 26 Republicans and 12 Democrats.
Annie-Rose Strasser contributed to this report.
Thank you GOP for defending human LIFE (babies) vs. the Democrat Pro DEATH platform of using abortions as birth control. The leftist radicals worry more about the rights of animals than they do of newborns. :-)
Maybe you you should realize there are rules of conduct on the vine that you agreed to uphold when you came to the vine.
Put a leash on Whom and we'll talk about rules and code of conduct. I'm happy to play by the same rules as you all. :-)
Democrats are not pro-death-they are pro choice!! and vagina is an anatomy term. how is that banned from the house floor???
Democrats are largely Pro Death (Baby Killers) that embrace abortion as a means of birth control. She was 'educated' on the house floor for the same reason why a Democratic Congressman was escorted from the Congressional House floor for wearing a hoodie. Follow the Code of Conduct and Rules of the House; and you can exercise your speech responsibility vs. idiotic theatrics of the left that have no respect for the political forum where they conduct the people's business. Occupy Nuts.
Hey Vatican,,,,,, The repubs want to end anything that will help the poor.. Most of these women that have babies are poor... So make them have all the babies that they can have then the rpubs can starve them to death.. You are soooooo dumb!!!!! The poor don't have a chance with you people.....
Looks like Obama is doing a great job creating more poor in America as we now have a record number on food stamps, social security disability, unemployment and welfare. The Democrats have done a great job at killing the poor while creating more of them with their failed policies. The GOP will turn this nation around and provide opportunities for the poor to join the middle class. You're a typical Liberal that believes Democrats support the poor by making them comfortable in their poverty vs. helping them out of their poverty. :-)
Sorry but again no storm that is the direct results of the Reagan legacy. Funny how you just can't grasp that you earn the same as you did in 1979 while the wealthy have been jacking up the costs of everything you buy and somehow you believe you are going to be wealthy, talk about delusional.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sohB922c2uQ == KISS = Shout it Out Loud -- V-A-G-I-N-A !!
What does this have to due with the economy going down the drain and the unemployment numbers??
Democrats love to use dead people as political props. They used the death of young Travyon for their political agenda and were quick to use the death of Rodney King for an Al Sharpton led rally to advance a racist agenda. Liberals prove that the only politically useful liberal is a dead liberal. :-)
Massive Crowd Gathers For Reading Of Vagina Monologues At Michigan Capitol
By Judd Legum on Jun 18, 2012 at 7:36 pm
After two female legislators were banned from the Michigan House floor last week after saying “vagina” during a debate about an anti-abortion measure, a massive crowd has gathered at the state capitol for a reading of “The Vagina Monologues.” There are an estimated 5,000 people in attendance.
The Michigan House has passed HB 5711, the nation’s most restrictive anti-abortion bill that combines some of the worst attacks on women’s access to abortion care into one bill. The massive 45-page, Republican-backed legislation limits when a woman could have an abortion and puts a greater, unnecessary burden on abortion providers.
Opponents have loudly protested against the measure that has been jammed through the legislature — it was introduced on May 31 and a committee approved it last week — and Democratic lawmakers spoke out against it before the House passed the bill 70-39. “This bill is not about protecting women’s health,” said state Rep. Kate Segal (D).
Here’s what you should know about these far-reaching anti-abortion bills:
Boring... more Liberal theatrics to deflect from Obama's failed economy and unemployment numbers. You people think this really matters to most Americans? Wow, you really live in an alternate reality, but we'll wake you up this November. :-)
Ed.
With the republican party suppressing womens rights, and the freedom to speak in thier own goverment house. Also, failing to recognize equality in the workplace for women. Are the Repulicans becoming the American version of the Taliban. ?
Please tell us how the GOP is "suppressing" women's rights when MSNBC once again tells only part of the actual story (they have a record of doing that time and time again....), which was schooling another radical unprofessional Democrat that attempted to make the State House... leftist theater where there is an expected level of decorum. A concept foreign to Liberals. :-) You people are jokes.
Women have the right to make a choice. Women have a mind to make their own decissions about their situation. Women don't like men or the government deciding what they should do. Give us back our voice. We are tired of being treated like second class citizens by the gop. Drive us bo commit suiside, or to go to some back ally doctor. Thank you for proving to me you go to fake noise for her right sided rehtoric. You seem to think it is ok, to just shut women up. Not going to happen.
Yawn. Your rights have not changed one iota between the GW Bush administration and the Obama administration. You sound like a desperate liberal looking for a wedge issue where there isn't one. Go fish! :-) Give us an example of a legal "right" you gained under the Obama administration. HA!
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm sick of reading Pope Boy's babbling. I say we either ignore him or ban him. What do you think? I already have stupid on ignore.
Why is it that women have the right in NYC to decide if they want to abort a baby under the philosophy that it her body and she should have the right to do with it what she wants, but I don't have the right to buy a 32 oz soda because the city can dictate what I am allowed to drink?
Something isn't right about that...
just saying..
MJB, I say you have no power in the matter except your delusions in your frail liberal mind. Enjoy! :-)
Crickets...
just saying...
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, but I'm not a professional troll like you two. I have a life life.
Their problem is all the leaks their blow up mates get means they have to patch them up and because they are in closed spaces the glue gets the better of them. In their minds glue sniffing is better then paint huffing.
Why, nothing, Stupidita. Surely you don't think that's the ONLY issue our nation faces, do you? If so, certainly the handle is apropos.
Absolutely. The average man and women that can't find a job during Obama's four years of record sustained unemployment since the Great Depression are concerned about 'vaginas'. Yes, you liberals are definitely in tune with the average citizen while Obama has dinner with the 1%ers. I want to thank you and MSNBC for making you all out to be such fools that are out of touch with the average middle class citizen. Thank you! :-) You're going to be surprised again this November.
"THE SIX MOST IMPORTANT
ISSUES IN 2012 AMERICA'S PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS"
As the American 2012 presidential elections draw closer
daily, the key players in this game of politics from both political parties are
all very busy criss-crossing the 50 states and making their cases and
their positions known on the most important issues to the all American
voters who will elect the next occupant of the White House.
The most
important question to be asked about 2012 presidential election is this:What are
the most important issues to the American voters today? The following is
(i) Jobs, Jobs and Jobs:The national unemployment rate
today stands at 9% at the moment with 14 million Americans unemployed and
another 10 million Americans are under-employed. The economy must produce at
least 200,000 new jobs to bring down the present unemployment rate to below
5%.
(ii) Economy, Huge Debt and Deficits:America's foreign
debt today stands at $14.5 trillion with yearly huge deficits that are no longer
sustainable. The revenue that is generated today by the government through the
IRS is far less that government spending. The biggest challenge to the next
occupier of the Oval Office is how to generate more revenue. The two political
parties are divided about this issue. GOP wants cut to Medicaid, Medicare,
Social Security and all government financed entitlement programs. The Democrat
wants tax increase on the top 1% of the richest Americans and the corporations
as well as a deep cut to defence spending.
(iii) Fair Tax
Systems:The top 1% of the richest Americans and the corporations
control more than 70% of the nation's wealth and their incomes have grown by
more than 200% in the last 30 years compared with the middle-class and the poor
Americans who had a mere growth of about 30%. The top income earners and
corporations pay less in taxes and have enjoyed tax break that they did not need
or asked for in the first instance since 2002
iv) Immigration:America's immigration system is totally broken
and needed an immediate reform to fix it. Today, there are between 12-20 million
illegal immigrants in this country according to many reliable estimates. The
illegal aliens are not paying taxes, not in our national systems and putting
financial pressure on our social services and public infrastructures.
(v)
Terrorism and Foreign Wars:Who can truly keep this country safe
from the domestic and international terrorists who plan daily on attacking
Americans and our national interests around the world? How do will bring these
two foreign wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a final end? America has spent over
$1 trillion in these two wars and lost about 5,000 precious Americans.
(vi)
Occupy Wall Street:These political protests against corporate
greed that started about 5 weeks ago have now reached close to 300 America's
major cities and commercial nerve centers and with no sign of it abating. These
protesters will definitely have a say in the midterm and the presidential
elections of 2012.
(vii) Abortion and Gay Rights:Americans
are heavily divided politically along pro-choice, pro-life and the gay rights
issues in this country. These issues listed above will play a major role in the
way Americans will vote in 2012 for their
president.
The battle line is now drawn and these six
issues are the key factors to look out for in the 2012 presidential election
slated for November 11, 2011. For now the race for the White House is in full
swing and only time will tell who will be the next occupier of the Oval Office.
(i) Jobs, Jobs and Jobs:The national unemployment rate
today stands at 9% at the moment with 14 million Americans unemployed and
another 10 million Americans are under-employed. The economy must produce at
least 200,000 new jobs to bring down the present unemployment rate to below
5%.
(ii) Economy, Huge Debt and Deficits:America's foreign
debt today stands at $14.5 trillion with yearly huge deficits that are no longer
sustainable. The revenue that is generated today by the government through the
IRS is far less that government spending. The biggest challenge to the next
occupier of the Oval Office is how to generate more revenue. The two political
parties are divided about this issue. GOP wants cut to Medicaid, Medicare,
Social Security and all government financed entitlement programs. The Democrat
wants tax increase on the top 1% of the richest Americans and the corporations
as well as a deep cut to defence spending.
(iii) Fair Tax
Systems:The top 1% of the richest Americans and the corporations
control more than 70% of the nation's wealth and their incomes have grown by
more than 200% in the last 30 years compared with the middle-class and the poor
Americans who had a mere growth of about 30%. The top income earners and
corporations pay less in taxes and have enjoyed tax break that they did not need
or asked for in the first instance since 2002
Exactly...Liberals don't know. Nice list. A perfect Liberal post on this blog. The following is:.......? :-) I didn't see vaginas listed. We know its a BS list when it contains the Occupy Wall Street movement and Gay Rights as a "top priority" for most Americans. HAHA!
34 years of GOP economic failures that have kept the workers wages at the same place they were in 1979 while the cost of living has climbed higher and higher yet you believe you are going to be wealthy. BOL delusional at best.
Silence the mouths of our opponents is the Republican's policies these days while they can't seem to shut up Romney who buries himself every day with some whimsical nonsense no one really buys into but has no other choice but to support.
Funny thing about Democrats, we don't let someone try to shut us up, we'll talk over you with creativity every time.
Yes, your "talk over" tactics worked so well in the Wisconsin capital that you had your butts kicked during the recall election. Please keep up your lunatic "creativity" because you're helping us this November. :-)
You have 2 ears and 1 mouth for a reason...
So do you. Too bad you don't know when or how to use them.
.......
Health Care Insurers Spent $100 Million To Defeat Obamacare
By Annie-Rose Strasser on Jun 13, 2012 at 1:04 pm
As the Supreme Court readies to announce their decision on the individual mandate portion of the health reform, it has emerged that the largest health care lobbying group in the country spent a total of $102.4 million in just 15 months to prevent Obamacare from becoming law in the first place.
In 2009 alone, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) pumped $86.2 million into a conservative lobbying group, the US Chamber of Commerce, to combat President Obama’s health care reform plan. But with the added months of 2010 prior to the ACA’s March passage, AHIP piled on an additional $16 million to be used against the bill.
That staggering total, which the National Journal’s Influence Alley uncovered today, was not out in the open — rather, the funds were transferred through a secretive process and listed only by the organization as ‘advocacy’ spending:
.
The behind-the-scenes transfers were particularly hard to track because the law does not require groups to publicly disclose where they are sending the money or who they are receiving it from. [...]
The next year followed a similar pattern. In 2010, AHIP reported giving $16.5 million to unnamed advocacy organizations working on health care reform and the chamber reported receiving about $16.2 million from an undisclosed source, which the Alley has learned was AHIP. The $16.2 million accounted for about 8.6 percent of the total contributions and grants the chamber received that year.
This funneling scheme allowed health groups like AHIP to save face no matter whether the bill passed or not — if the bill failed, the groups figured, they would be able to point to their lobbying efforts against it. When it succeeded, AHIP and others remained quiet about any efforts against the legislation.
With the ruling coming down in the coming weeks from the Supreme Court, and with all the money spent to defeat the law, AHIP may be all to happy if it’s overturned.
vatican....if your sooooo sure about yourself and who's gonna win.....what are you doin on a liberal progressive blog trying to convince people by your logic?
tell me, what is so positive about your logic that compells you to come to ED's blog and waste your time since you already have it in the bag?
Even Rubio knows he has to talk of immigration apart from the economy. what was it said....I'd would sneak in the country if I had to.
wait for a little bit and woman's concerns will bite you righties again.....keep up your lunatic creativity of obstruction and irritation where ever you go.....it's helping us...............
Romney and the GOP will discuss their immigration reform plans in good time, not on your timetable. I'm not trying to convince you of my logic. I'm here to provide truth to your nonsense for the rest of the nation to read that might be curious of this obscure blog. :-) I called the Wisconsin recall election, and I'll call the November election too. You are your own worst enemies because you're a bunch of ideologues.
Vatican probably doesn't have a life or a job remember it's poor southerns in republican states with little education sucking off the government teet
You'll never know how independently wealthy I am, but you can keep on guessing. I sure enjoy it. :-)
And you have no way of knowing how independently wealthy each of us who post here are. Because we can tell you anything we want to or not. So we don't care about it.
Cynical just made the mistake of treating you like you do every one else who post here you don't agree with. Your cynical attitude makes you treat all of us here as if we are low life that you have no respect for. There are many conservatives that have come here daily for months, yet they come here respectfully.
Not that many.
All that use of word "vagina" I'm surpirsed the Governor didn't declare these women's vaginas in financial crisis and appoint a bureaucratic financial manager
but in all serious that must end it is a facist policy which in its execution will undermine democracy
If the GOP was smart they'd stop kicking the bee hive(women voters)
More importantly how does this create jobs? Seems like if Michigan hadn't got that auto bailout and had to live on what the Republicans have delivered the state they'd be in a third world country
Wrong again. FORD took zero federal bailout dollars and they're doing just fine. GM and Chrysler still went through bankruptcy procedures - the same procedures they would have gone through without the tax payer "pay offs" to the labor unions while screwing shareholders. The GOP is doing just fine with women and their votes for this November while Liberals keep promoting fake wars and other nonsense. Leave it to the Democrats to see Americans by color, race, religion, sex while the GOP only sees red, white and blue. It's very telling about your racist class warfare party of lunatics.
Not the subject! Wrong again!
What is the source of your list? I'll place a bet it's a Progressive Democratic list vs. one that reflects mainstream America. :-)
Just above you head my dear. Pay attention. Go back to the top of the page and read down. Didn't you see the quotation mark? I just used my copy and paste to move it to get your attention. ROTFFL.
I was right: sunday1967.blogspot.com/2011/11/six-most-important-issues-in-2012.html
The last sentence exposed the liberal nature of that blog:
The battle line is now drawn and these six issues are the key factors to look out for in the 2012 presidential election slated for November 11, 2011. For now the race for the White House is in full swing and only time will tell who will be the next occupier of the Oval Office.
You just weren't paying attention. You got there after it was over. I was there Nov. '65. First major battle the US was involved in. But then you wouldn't know about battles.
Oh, I see now, so where did that take place? and what unit were you in??
Here I'll help you out some, the 1st official battle was in the Ia Drang valley, now tell me what LZ number were you part of???
Since you know everything about me, you already know LZ's don't use numbers, but it was X-RAY. You probably know who the worthless major was. You probably believe I give a Rats a$$ what you think. OH, since you know everything about me, when and where was I wounded? How many of us were there? How many enemy were there? s I said, I don't give a rats a$$ what you think so have fun.
Again no unit number, no divison number, no LZ umber...
You were never in Veitnam.
You do not live in the USA....
One more time larry74, what company were you in? where did you inter the country?
You don't read real well. LZ's don't have numbers. X-RAY was our LZ. ZEBRA was 5 miles away. And once again, I don't give a rats a$$ what you think. Once again you don't answer my questions. Who was the worthless major? And FYI, 1st Battalion of the 7th cavalry. How many of us were there? How many of them? But sinse you want to continue your BS about all this. You can kiss the tail end of a frog. Don't bother answering, as I know you won't, you are now on ignore. Bye!!!!!!
Democrats are pro-choice not pro death Vatican!! and isn't vagina an anatomy term so why would it be banned on the house floor?!
Democrats love to call babies a choice just as they believe in moral relativism and live by hypocrisy. You place such little value on human life, which is why you're easy to manipulate through your own self-interest and materialism by the radical left. As Bill Clinton said, "If it feels good; do it." :-) moral?
Republicans want to end the increase of babies to ensure that minorities don't out breed them but they miss out that
1) by forcing their views they are causing the down fall of white majority because unlike them minorities are having sex meaning more minority babies
2) they can't find any woman that will put up with their woman hating ways
excuse let me back track-many democrats are pro-choice. not all.
I wish these guys well; but when it comes to debating women vagina's, I think the women will win by a landslide. Besides, most men can't control their own reproductive organ they were born with.
The only debate on a woman's vagina is coming from the left in their desperate attempt to advance their fantasy GOP War on Women, which continues to gain no traction. America however sees the left for what they are; no substance, all theatrics and out of touch with reality. :-) Radicals only know how to make headlines, but not govern. Obama is living proof.
Just ignore that the right are waging a war to repeal womens rights that were granted in the 1920's, they really hate that women can say no to their perversions.
Vatican is nothing but a troll. Goes all over leaving hateful comments for anyone he disagrees with. Hey troll, don't you have a life? I seriously doubt if you have friends.
Give Obama a big wet kiss good night. What a pathetic person to "Love Obama" vs. respecting a President. :-)
He has a blow-up doll he's engaged to.
Chris isn't it funny how they always judge others by their own failings? They have no clue about the other posters inn here and if you noticed they have misconceptions of liberals made up mostly in their own minds as well as rewrites of the 1960's, they call liberals weak yet ignore facts like liberals faced guns and tear gas unarmed. Remember most of these tea baggers hide in their gated communities never deal with the scary world outside of their gated communities all they know is what their TV's tell them, whats rather telling is they watch Fox news which plays on their fears of a world they never deal with.
For every man who denies there is a war on women, in spite of the massive onslaught of bills in Congress and in numerous state legislatures around the country, there are several more intelligent and advanced men who understand and side with women. And these more "evolved" gentlemen are so confident of their maleness they can utter the words that seen to frighten the GOP extreme rightists. While watching that scene in the Michigan legislature, I could sense the shrinking of numerous male gonads when countered by a strong woman. Their activities do not reflect their strength but their inherent weakness. These are the playground bullies that picked on what they perceived as the weaker kids, now they are going after women because they are too cowardly to actually do something positive for their states, such as pass some bills that would put more people to work because their corporate "sponsors" wouldn't like that. All these actions are time-wasting messes so they look as if they are doing something when actually they are doing nothing. No gumption, as my grandpa would say.
That or listen to some of the recent comments by Lisa Murkowski and ask the women in their lives. Even republican women don't care about these alleged social mandates of the current GOP
Well they're certainly not more "evolved", remember the Republicans don't believe in evolution either
Indeed. Meanwhile this is the congressional republican serious job policy efforts:
(nothing)
Clearly the GOP is more concerned about getting into the vaginas of our wives, mothers, sisters, neices, aunts, girlfriends, platonic friends, and daughters to get anything real done
Alright! This dummy Vatican12442 probably belongs to FOX team. Maybe a Rush Limbaugh in disguise. What you mean America??? Your GOP take America for 8years! See what they have done! Lies, corruptions, trillions of deficit, millions of jobs lost, thousands of innocent lives, thousands of wounded veterans and you as republican voter are directly responsable for that and now you call the Democrats radicals, out of touch! You must be kidding! I have to tell you this: Vagina's will make a huge difference in november re-electing OBAMA for sure your DUMMY...
Wow, another clueless teenager that has no clue about living in the real world except for what he sees on X-Box. You're in for a rude awakening when you leave your parents house and compete against others more prepared and educated. Keep calling women, "vagina's" and see how most women across America will react to your Liberal nonsense. Please keep it up. I'm counting on it! Thanks! :-)
Yet he knows more about whats going on them you how surprising is that. NOT.
NOW, there's something to be proud of!
Vagina...there I said it.
Republicans hate they can't control vagina's. There I said it.
Stupidita: You are a miserable excuse for a human being. You also are acting like a little pussy. Larry was at Ia Drang in 1965 with the 7th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division, U.S. Army under Colonel Moore's command. I have read many books about Vietnam, including "We were soldiers once and young". Larry told me things that only a veteran could have told me over the phone about the battle of Ia Drang. Specific details like the number of days in the field, the fact that his BN was essentially on the defensive for the whole fight, various METT-T factors, number of casualties taken and inflicted on the North Vietnamese, and he even identified specific types of close tactical air support such as the WW II vintage Skyraider that dropped napalm and shelled NVA positions, jet aircraft of the time, and helicopter gunships. Larry also talked about use of the new rotary minigun that was placed on the Huey that could fire 3,000, 7.62mm rounds per minute.
Larry even told me about close coordination of artillery fire with aviation troops from artillery fire bases. Typically this was done with 105mm artillery pieces because those versions of the 105's were light enough to be sling loaded under a helicopter. Artillery was used as a shield to protect Ia Drang soldiers from a relentless onslaught of an entire NVA regiment. Larry was there regardless of what you think. I have read military history all of my adult life from the time I was 12. Only a veteran could have described what Larry described about the battle of Ia Drang. There were two big fights at Ia Drang, one around LZ X-ray and another fight with another US. Army rifle BN at LZ Albany were a major ambush occurred. B-52 air strikes were called in what was the first use of B-52's in a tactical combat situation.
Did you know that the modern FM 22-100 Military Leadership has a section on the Ia Drang battles as required reading for Army Sergeants at NCO schools? We read about SGT Savage and his platoon getting isolated from the main body of his rifle company. His Lieutenant was killed and SGT Savage had to get on the radio and call in 105mm artillery fire from helicopter supplied fire bases. Savage and most of his "lost Platoon" survived the battle after being isolated overnight but many men in his platoon were killed or wounded. It was an epic fight. The NVA learned that they had to close quickly with U.S. rifle platoons or else air power and artillery support would inflict major attrition upon them. This is the origin of General Giap's bear hug tactics that worked well for troops equipped with AK-47's and RPG's using his various phases of guerrilla and conventional warfare tactics. Giap divided his strategy up into phases with military and political components linked to all phases of combat.
I served in Desert Storm with the 1st Infantry Division during the 1991 Persian Gulf war. The 1st Infantry was part of VII Corps on the extreme left flank of the armored hook that went through Kuwait and into southern Iraq. The British were always nearby us with their Challenger tanks and Warrior infantry tracked vehicles. Plus I served during five other military conflicts and other engagements providing combat information to warfighters over a career that lasted 20 years. These conflicts include Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan plus many other smaller conflicts and operations in support of the No Fly zones in Iraq. I was a professional soldier that did his job but this does not make me special.
I know that when I served in the Army I was with the best America had to offer. We always had a belief that became part of our values: Leave no fallen American behind. All of us who were career soldiers felt a deep moral commitment to those who were in a combat zone. Quarterly corporate profits statements or tax cuts or personal comfort were never talked about but doing our jobs right so soldiers in the field could go home to their families always was talked about. We carried a lot of responsibility and worked day and night in support of troops in the field. People forgot about their personal issues and coalesced around getting the job done so our guys out in harms way had a better chance of coming home. When I come to this blog and others and read about the petty selfishness, mean spirited, and ignorance of conservatives who want to tear America down and leave fallen Americans behind, I know I am seeing America at its very worst.
Most conservatives are also clueless about the military. The U.S. Army is studying how to deal with effects of a world at Peak oil. Many U.S. Army officers are concerned about the potential increase for conflicts caused by peak oil productions. Many officers are also working with engineers both in civilian sector and in various components of the U.S. Army to push hard for the development of green energy. The U.S. Army and the Marine Corps are studying how to use solar panels to generate electricity in forward operating bases and field cantonments such as BN assembly areas. The reason for this is to minimize the number of fuel truck convoys. These fuel truck convoys are prime targets for insurgents. Many of the bravest infantry soldiers were the soldiers who served in converted gun trucks in Iraq. These guys took the brunt of IED attacks and ambushes. Fuel trucks make horrendous wounds on drivers and other personnel guarding them in convoys. Officers in the Army are trying hard to reduce these horrific burn injuries by saving fuel and promoting green energy. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates also is pushing green energy as is the new Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta.
Another thing that will drive conservatives crazy is the fact that the naval war college is studying the geopolitical and military implications of global warming. Rising sea levels and altered rain fall and increasing desertification could have dire consequences for struggling nations in Sub-Saharran Africa or Southeast Asia. The U.S. Army and Navy are pushing this amongst their future generals and admirals because global warming will cause conflicts and humanitarian disasters that could involved millions of people becoming refugees in desperate situations involving terrorism, regional war, and humanitarian crisis from famine to homelessness.
Conservatives who are in denial about global warming need to go to the Department of Defense websites and do Google searches. Type in "energy conservation", "global warming" and "solar development", "energy efficient vehicles or trucks" or "electric vehicles"etc. You can read until your retinas burn out about measures the DOD is taking to mitigate our coming energy crisis with a world at peak oil production. U.S. military planners are already planning for peak oil and global warming and are working on major plans to save energy and build up green energy sources. The DOD has studies for massive numbers of solar photovoltaic cells in California and Nevada. Solar panels are also going up in many bases and Army Reserve centers from coast to coast. The Air Force and Navy are looking into coal to liquid fuels for increasing amounts their jet fuel in coming years. Smaller nuclear reactors used by the U.S. Navy in submarines, carriers, and cruisers are being improved and studied for applications for local electricity generation for commercial power. I can not list everything here that the DOD is doing because I could fill up this whole blog doing it. Electric hybrid trucks and flex fuel trucks, along with biomass fuels are also being studied by Defense Department technicians, scientists, officers, soldiers, and engineers. The reason for all of this activity can be found in the burn unit in the Army hospital at FT Sam Houston in San Antonio, Texas. Fuel convoys were major targets and if you walk through FT Sam Houston burn unit you will see why Admirals, Generals, and Secretaries of Defense talk about green energy and energy conservation including electric vehicles, hybrid trucks etc.
If you are still in denial about peak oil or global warming why are the U.S. military services and the Department of Defense spending so many billions of dollars trying desperately to reduce their energy consumption? Why would former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates talk so much about green energy and trying to reduce fuel consumption in forward operating bases? Professor Hubbert predicted peak world oil production in the first decade of the 21st century. Hubbert's statistical analysis and bell curve techniques worked for predicting the peak for the U.S. in 1970 and in the Russian Federation/FSU in 1987?
"Flat earth" conservatives today who deny global warming and peak oil are like the isolationists in the 1930's up until the attack on Pearl Harbor. FDR did the best he could with a hostile Congress to try and build up a modern mechanized tank army with planes, tanks, and trucks and a modern naval air corps. But FDR could only do so much when so many Americans decided to stick their heads in the sand about Axis aggression. It took a huge crisis in order for the U.S. to sacrifice anything and build up a modern military. So it is today with President Obama, who is doing the best he can to build up a new green energy future for the United States. President Obama knows that a major energy crisis is coming but "flat earth" conservatives deny and obstruct many things that could help our country mitigate the crisis caused by Peak oil and the BRIC countries growing demand. It is going to take another "Pearl Harbor" type crisis before the idiotic conservatives realize that the energy crisis is real. Not only is that energy crisis caused by peak oil real, it is already here. The more we deny and delay dealing with it the worse our energy crisis will be for America. We will also suffer more casualties in avoidable conflicts to secure our oil supply lines in unstable parts of the world.
I honestly don't think I have seen more inflammatory posts from a single poster on a single vine since I came to newsvine.