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This man will do whatever it takes to get re-elected.
Whatever it takes.
Right-Wrong
Up-Down
Right-Left
Good-Bad
Truth-Lie
Black-White
There are no ethics. No scruples. No conscious. Just whatever it takes.
This man has got to go. America will survive, believe it or not.
Jobs, jobs, jobs.....our young people out of work and now look. Boy, you lefties have a lot to spew about now. Let's hear it.
Are you going to spew about job shortage or are you going to spew about people here illegally taking the jobs?
Today is just MORE EVIDENCE That President Obama is SO DESPERATE that he is willing to DO ANYTHING, PROMISE ANYTHING and SAY ANYTHING in the LAST 5 months, to TRY to WIN this ELECTION because he has One Eye on the POLLS and His OTHER EYE on his FAILED ECONOMIC POLICIES
But the American People have already figured him out
And it will NOT WORK!!!
Did you think we would not NOTICE
WE GOT YOU!!!
johnny == Yeah-yeah-Yeah - Tell those VERY Words to The Wrongies - You Know - the Goofballs in the Congress - OK !!!!!
just - You continue to advertise the very same article - over+over+over+over !!!! PYUKE !!! ===== Tissue ??
At least we know this man we will re-elect. He is real. Not a money bought phony, that the republican party is trying to push on us. I hear Sheldon Adleston is buying romney's election can he can force us into a war in the middle east.....that ain't spew.
Even more desperate Romney Blast his bus horn at Obama Supporters. Now what is that going to get him but disgust.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-campaign-bus-taunts-obama-supporters
Thankful Mom-3182614 That is the most foolish statement I've read in a long time. You Libs cry on Wisconsin. Obama just stabbed you right in the heart. The jobs you libs are going to loose and you complain about wage fairness. You Thankful Mom is going to pay for their free medical, their free college. Los Angeles County is going Bankrupt 1.7 billion in the red because of illegals. And their going to TAKE YOUR JOB. This action is nothing more than a loser in motion. You morons have no justifications for his action. This was nothing but to gain votes. And each and every one of complain about the Wisconsin Election. You Libs deserve what you vote for. NO JOBS, FOOD STAMPS. This is Rock solid as close to treason to the American worker. AND YOU LAUGH, THEN LAUGH ALL THE WAY TO THE POOR HOUSE.
MD/MI Bring on your IQ remarks, this should be good. Since you showed nothing. You Libs are nothing but losers.
Hey Irish
Give President Obama some credit
He did TWEET
LMAO
Big decision in November! A Republican on the Democratic Ticket, [Obama] or a Republican on the Republican Ticket, [Romney] Both Candidates stink and both are right wing conservatives, so the only choice available is -- the PARTY VOTE!!! VOTE FOR THE PARTY THAT IS THE LESSOR OF THE EVILS! DEMOCRAT or BUST!!
Thankful Mom-3182614 You want to press pants for a quarter. Get ready, because that's exactly what your going to do. Here's the funny part We independents are trying to help you. We see the Amateurism Obama is. And you still like putting head inside the press. WOW
Mexican Immigration is NOT THE PROBLEM...War refugees are entering our communities imposing Muslim Extremism every direction we turn. The Chaos the professional politicans are creating ignores the greater problem...how do these people assimilate successfully? Iraqi People arrive here and somehow are able to live in Luxury Communities without any visible means of employment or somehow they become "Business Owners and Operators" without regard for our laws. If you are an out of work skilled laborer, why do you not take your argument to the Multimillion dollar Corporations who have disenfranchised you through cessation of retirement contributions, reduction of healthcare insurance coverage in high risk work areas, increase your payroll deductions by reducing their own income tax burdens decade after decade because of virtually no accountability due to massive deregulation of Federal Laws by both political parties? The only reason Romney doesn't like it is because his Corporate Feeders will now be forced to pay more payroll taxes and be responsible for accountability within their Corporate Structures where "Undocumented Workers" did not have to be accounted for. Why don't you request work on Romney's Multi Million Dollar Mansion Renovation in La Jolla, CA overlooking the Pacific Ocean where his vehicles will be available to him at the push of an elevator button? Do you know who maintains the grounds at that Estate? You guessed it...Mexican Immigrants who are better skilled at Landscape Maintenance and work with the Earth because the College Students at nearby UCSD are all from South Korea, Dubai, Saudi Arabia and don't do this type of work to pay for their $60K/year tuition minus living expenses...their funding sources pay for them to attend our Universities and what's left of our State Colleges. You all just crack me up in your reactive push button responses. There is a much larger problem looming than you can even see because you are so busy reacting to what politicos put out there. Why do you think University, State College, Private Colleges and once affordable "Community Colleges" have quadrupled fees and tutition when domestic spending has crashed? We are investing in "Foreign Student Education" where we once invested in educating our own. There once existed "Student Loan Repayment Programs" that came with mentorships and professional tracks for growth by the "Job Creators" in the Private Sector. Corporations including Hospitals are no longer accountable to any work ethic or laws that were in place to hold them accountable for their actions. They no longer have to be invested in this Country because of Global Interests.
No it's republican on the democratic ticket versus cylon on republican ticket but otherwise you're right. People want to pretend Obama and Romney are so different when as men it is clear they are very much the same. Gasp! Intrique! Outrage!
I find it hilarious certain re-regs wish to attack Obama for pandering while stumping for the guy who:
Claimed his Massachusetts law was a model for the nation and then said he didn't
who has claimed to be independent, moderate and severely conservative
says was always pro-life and also that he would protect a women's right to choose
supported gay rights to the left of ted kennedy and now says he has only supported "traditional marriage"
derides Obama for spending three years at Harvard after he spent for
dodged the draft yet supported the vietnam war and protested against draft dodging
said that illegal children who have been in the country for many years should be deported and today says he thinks that there should be a process to help them stay legally
says detriot should have gone bankrupt, and when it didn't go bankrupt that he was responsible for that success and then said that Obama should be blamed because all the jobs weren't saved
says he won't apologize for his success yet pretends to be an average american
says he doesn't want to ban any contraceptive but is willing to sign personhood acts which do just that
says young people who live off their parents for college are lazy and that those who do not work then are leeches yet lived solely off selling stock his father gave him and had no employment in college
Ol' Johnny boy, you go holler at your tea potty republicans in the house and senate. They are the ones who refused and continue to refuse to take up the JOBS Bill and get it through the congress in order to make more jobs available for American citizens!
President Obama had done his job, your anti-Aerican terroristis aka republicans do not want to do what is right by America, they only want one job, the Presidents and if that means everyone else has to suffer - so be it!
I loathe republicans and their treason!
Obama/Biden 2012
Johnny-3188986,
Are you one of those policeman that has been stealing cars from undocumented immigrants?
There is a new law could make it illegal for city employees to steal things from undocumented immigrants.
DemElizabeth Na I'm not the one going to hollier, you are. Obama you all know him, the one you support is a Hypocrite. He had his chance 2 years ago. He had the chance with the dream bill. It wasn't a thought. This is the same Obama that sold you chumps on 4,000,000 jobs along with Pelosi on Obama Care. Your unions are as good as gone. You say the Conservatives and we Independence took the middle class out. HA HA HA. Here is a Quote from Romans: " From thy own mouth you will condemn yourself" This was another Hail Mary Pass. But when June job report comes out all is forgotten. He'll dig his hole deeper. You Chumps crying for Jobs, Fair wages. HA HA HA. You just shot yourself right in the heart and your to stupid to figure this one out.
johnny,
don't tell us what President Obama will do to get re-elected.
look at the 2000 election that w. bush 1) stole by suppressing voters. 2) they put electronic voting machines prone to error in democratic counties in florida. 3)the repubs in washington also sent protesters to florida to protest the recount. those protesters got high-ranking jobs in the bush administration. 4) they got his daddy's friends to annnoint him president, after 5) katherine harris (secretary of state) manuevered a win for w. by stopping the recount.
in ohio, in 2004, they stole 90,000 votes from John Kerry (computer hacking).
in the year 2000, when bush was running against mccain, the bush campaign put out robo calls implying that john mccain had an illegitimate child due to an affair with a black woman. (they have an adopted "black" daughter from another country (bangladesh?).
don't tell us what Obama will do to get re-elected, when we have seen w. bush steal two elections. he ran this country into the ground for 8 years, followed by repubs who agreed with and gave him everything he wanted.
Johnny, you is wrong again!
So you and your cohorts in congress will be clapping for a bad jobs report? Yep, let's destroy jobs for American citizens and make President Obama look bad so illiterates will think he messed up or doesn't know what he is doing.
We know what congress is doing - obstructing- and President Obama has it right.
One thing is absolutely sure and positive, your incoherent ramblings and blame are ludicrous by a mile. Your republican rabies and conservative cooties will not be rubbing off on any sane, intelligent person!
Romney just foams at the mouth with his rabid republican policies that are proved to destroy all of the middle class in America!
100 % Obama/Biden 2012
Cynical,
your post #1.10-EXCELLENT!
Irish, don't be worried about me. I'm a professional, and I won't be pressing any ones pants. However, I do appreciate President Obama and how he thinks. I have many business associates, friends and family who think the same way I do. So your concerns should be saved for your own self. I sure do not think repugs have a single thing to offer this world but heart break and tears.
A-men, TM. I won't be pressing anyone's pants either.
Especially not my husband's. LOL
I showed him where the ironing board was.
suzette, cc, it appears you are supporting Obama on the basis that he is better than Romney and not for his policies and results.
That stance puts you and me in similar tracts. I am not a Romney backer at all, but the only difference is that, while I agree with you that we have two seriously flawed candidates, I put Romney as the better choice merely because he hasn't proven to be insufficient yet. I respect you for your similar views, just that you think the order should be switched.
rusty,
as i have said here before, i don't like everything that President Obama has TRIED to do, but as a general rule i do agree with the policies of a liberal president.
i like President Obama.
i DO NOT BELIEVE that he is perfect, BUT NEITHER IS HE SERIOUSLY FLAWED.
i'll tell you who i think is seriously flawed, and this will not surprise you. the repub/baggers/conservatives in washington, who haven't done anything to "compromise" (sorry for the dirty word) with President Obama in keeping with their promise to each other to say NO to all economic policies that President Obama puts forth, and in keeping with their pledge to the muslim grover norquist to keep revenues off the table in dealing with the debt that they are "so concerned" about, and largely responsible for while they were kissing w.'s ass.
grover norquist said repubs only need a president who knows how to sign his name. the repubs in congress will take care of governing. romney has proven during his long campaign that he will say anything to win the nomination, and then the presidency.
glenn beck and mitt romney as mormons scare the hell out of me. they are much like the religious right in that they feel it is their duty to fulfill prophecy that they believe to be true w. bush and they want to take the rest of us with them. i appreciate your post, but our views in regard to our candidate of choice are not similar at all.
i believe as most americans believe. w. bush along with repubs are largely responsible for the economic disaster we find ourselves in. this is not something that we will crawl out of overnight, and romney as president will make it harder for the middle class, and the poor. he will make it worse for women who have fought for reproductive rights, and for minorities (african americans) who died in the 60's for the right to vote.
americans believe repubs are mostly responsible for our economic situation. they also believe that repubs are obstructionists in regard to working with our President. they believe if repubs would get off their asses and stop saying "no", as per their agreement when President Obama was inaugurated, that our country would be further out of this hole that the repubs and w. bush dug.
It's just that you agreed with cc who said Obama wasn't a liberal, but was a Republican on a Democrat ticket.
Obama is flawed- Romney is unknown. In a real sense, people will be making the choice of taking a known inneffectual President or the unknown.
rusty,
its just that you agreed with cc who said....."
i said her post was excellent. i didn't say i agreed with everything.
big leap there, rusty.
point granted. It was a greata post by cc. I didn't agree with it, though...
@DemElizabeth.
Why won't Harry Reid bring up any Jobs Bills in the Senate that the Republicans have passed in the House? May if you tell them you have a Masters Degree in Education, they'll do something. Nothing but Democratic obstructionism.
@Rusty,
This is a failed President. He has done nothing but divide our Nation on race, gender, class, and religion. Romney at least will support something different, not the same old tax and spend our way to prosperity that Obama wants.
Drill- he sure is. Suzette and I both think CC had a great post, and we both disagree with CC. I know, usually when you think someone has a great post, it means you agree with them. Suzette explained to me that it was a leap to equate saying it was a great post to show agreement.
rusty,
i agreed with MOST of CC's post.
CC and i do not agree on everything.
Understood- I just find the fact that he says Obama is actually a Republican, and you hate Republicans, and you love Obama to be humorous.
That guy was a Romney plant no doubt about it.. It's no coincidence that about a week ago Romeny was talking about hecklers and what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, then this guy shows up.
Is that the best you can do.
Thats still 100% better then anything you ever posted.
I believe Romney is the kind of person that would pay people to fart loud in church if he didn't like what the priest was saying.
They CAN"T CLOSE The Borders because That's where American Cops get their drug money too & fro America from Mexico.
BILDERBERG Groups -EXPOSED.#!
Corporate Slaves
George Carlin - You are a slave
G.C. - a Wise Man !!! Miss Him !!!
[youtube]#![/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB-HZG1Zh7s == G.C. - You Are A Slave !!
There we Go Crystal !!!!
ROMNEY is Owned by the BILDERBERG / Rothchilds / MSNBC is fooling themselves with wishful thinking here.
Occupy Bilderberg 2012 is all over youtube
+plus Bilderberg Exposed = MSNBC can't blind the people any-longer - they Own Fox news all under the same company.
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/06/what-was-sheldon-adelsons-one-question-to-romney-before-giving-him-10-million.html
You need to get some sleep and let that stuff wear off, crystal!
Today President Obama stood up for what is right. He is demonstrating that he is a LEADER. ROMNEY is a LIAR like most REPUBS. They say one thing and do the opposite I have worked in Bureaucratic systems for many years and the Republican strategy has always been: Keep the nutcases such as BIGOTS Angry towards the minorities. Pit them against each other. Secondly, KEEP PEOPLE CONFUSED! It's the divide and conquer strategy. They love the poor whites as they know they can keep them angry towards minorities so it prevents them from realizing who the real enemy is, the crooked Right Wing Politicians and their MULTIBILLIONAIRE SUPPORTERS like the KOCH brothers who want to rule the world!!. WHY NOT they already own all the Republican's in office now! RIGHT WINGERS, distract and confuse the poor bigotted whites while they pocket money and then blame everything on the Democrats and now they have a President who happens to be a person of color, that they can blame everything on, making it much easier for them because they never have aplan the benefits the GREATER GOOD in this country. BUT... every chance I get. I set people straight reminding them of how they are being played as fools, while the likes of people like ROMNEY and THE KOCH BROS can continue to do their dirty deeds laughing all the way to their banks. I REFUSE TO SUPPORT THAT!! OH and "JUSTSTATINGITASITIS" You have GOT NOTHING BUT A HOLLOW HEAD AND BIG MOUTH!!
You idiot, you just received a wage demotion, You have to be on METH.
Oh that explains your anger, your addiction gets the better of you. Tea bagging republicans always project themselves onto others.
so President Obama stood up for what was right- by ignoring the rule of law- by letting one group knowing violate us law- while at the same accusing Florida of violating the law in terms of voter purges or whatever - so it appears that US citizens have to obey the law- but non citizens do not- what a great country we live in-
ST, have you ever heard of an Executive Order? Have you ever read the constitution? Didn't think so.
No one given has been given legal status. It's about prosecutorial disgression which can be legal justified. Essentially no one has been legalized those who meet these requirements have simply been moved to the back of the deportation line. Triage.
No one has been given any visa or citizenship
Too bad Obama does not use prosecutorial discretion with medical marijuana, which he said he would do but instead is shutting them all down, including in states that have medical marijuana laws withholding prosecution of MMJ patients. This Penn Jillette video gets to a visceral truth of the marijuana issue:
Google "Penn Jillette Marijuana Rant"
No. It's a shame he doesn't use prosecutorial discretion, quite legal to the pseudo-conservatives(tea party worshippers) claiming the contrary, for ALL marijuana. It's also a shame he won't get rid of the patriot act, ridiculous executive powers for "defense" that old dubs put in the works, and ATF and DEA
The Patriot Act gave new powers to the President and no President ever has given-up a presidential power that I have heard.
Yes people like to say Obama is great for being the first president to say he is fine with gay marriage in office or the first to say that children brought here through no fault of their own, have or are getting an education will be at the back of the deportation line so that dangerous people can be first to go.........but really it would be great if he was the first president in history to actually limit his own power as executive
But of course neither party really cares about those who are leaning libertarian
....and on a related note thinking about it I think Lincoln maybe could actually fit in the aforementioned category about presidential power since he declared martial law and then it went away but I suppose that really is the military giving up power...so there's that..the point is none the less understood. People never give away power once they have, it isn't human nature.
so as i see it here the ones complaining about what obama did today is that this will take away jobs,job.s and more jobs? well, you didn't hear or chose not to hear the message at all, just jumped on your high-horses again because it's obama once again. well what i heard was he said was he won't be deporting the young one that are in school. next, this isn't at our expense, and then if you are worried about them taking jobs away from you then why in the hell are you not taking those jobs. is it because that's beneath you or that it doesn't meet your hourly wage? well at least they want to work and not bitch like you. maybe you should blame the employer's that hire these people and pay them low wages instead of blaming obama. nobody got on bush's ass when he signed an immigration bill, and i didn't hear anybody get on rubio's case when he agreed with obama. OBAMA 2012.
Many Republicans are secretly supporting Obama because of his economic policies that funnel taxpayers money into Wall Street Accounts. Obama is a Conservative Republican posing as a Liberal Democrat! His policies support Wall Street and penalize SSA and low income. IE SSA payroll tax vs the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, the Public Option vs the requirement to buy health care. Obama is a Liar and a Traitor!
He is not Obama has always been a moderate democrat, the right just claim he is liberal.
I've been waiting for someone to remember why Warren Buffet is backing Obama.
Democrats understand investment and employment better than Republicans.
whomitmay You being a government worker, your forgetting again, I make your paycheck. Don't deny it whomitmay. You really have no say on this forum. Your Logistics are absolutely pointless. And after what your Obama just did, your job is as good as GONE. Just give it time.
Right because the GOP have done such a great job keeping illegals out of the country, except for when they hire illegals to do everything from building republican mansions to doing yard work unless it is an election year that is. Sorry but I do not work for the government, what are you one of those disgruntled postal workers whining about someone getting a promotion you felt you were entitled to.
Whom boy is a foreigner which means no valid opinion on this American political blog. Just more wacko noise from Europe.
Sorry about the closet I have ever come to visiting a foreign country was the year I lived in Texas, it was a pain because when I got close to the northern border of the Mason/Dixon line I had to burn my $300 boots so I didn't contaminate northern soil.
I would like some of Lisa's vagina, too. Good Night, and have a great week end! Freedom of Speech??? Should I be bared from voting for this blog??
I want to say good job Mr. Dyson! You were time enough for that Ron fella ! I just don't get these Black people who are "BLACK" and still allow themselves to look like and act like uncle toms for a party that don't give a "$#!+" about them ! and your right the President is a hell of a man to be able to stand their still being Presidental knowing in his heart that the disrespect he receives is "RACIST"and that it will continue until the end of his next four years! and yes there will be four more years for if the Republican's think they can run billion dollars worth of negative ads when "WE THE PEOPLE" know this man and have seen with our own eyes and have heard with our own ears ,everything they have said and done that we will pull the lever for them ! they've "GOT " to be drinking "KOOL AID"! The Republican's cannot put a billion dollars in my hands to make me pull the R lever and that is no joke !
I can truly say from the bottom of my heart , I and other's despise them with a vengence ! and if they think they can win this election with only Rich, and Poor Racist ,they had better think again !
And finally , Mr. Dyson you are right , no brother or sister would take that disrespect, or that pointed chin witch'es finger in their face , it would be like you said been broken off and stuck were the sun does not shine on her!
So let them keep it up ! this just fires us up and makes us ready to go! to the polls in 2012 !!!!!
P.S. If the President was" BORN ON THE WHITE HOUSE STEPS" HE STILL WOULD NOT BE QUALIFIED TO RUN "THEIR"WHITE HOUSE!!!!!
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Lindsey Williams: What's coming in 2012
Newsvine isn't a place for you to try and advertise your ridiculous conspiracy theories
Cynical,
i agree.
Lindsey Williams: What's coming in 2012
EVERYBODY I Been Searching the WEBBOTS Databases; ^Name of the MAIN video.
^LOOK Up the name of this video Online - Youtube search it;
THIS ELECTION IS A FAKE ACT; - We're being played - OBAMA Will have an October surprise -Begin war to discredit ROMNEY from winning his election MUST See this video;
Also REALIST News.com
@!$%# NOBODY is Talking about BILDERBERGS True Plans
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another example of why our nation should take mental health issues far more seriously
Just a question: Do you liberals favor a relatively open immigration policy? Or are you just backing Obama because he is Obama? Any union members out there- what do you think about allowing a significant number of people to cross the border to work? Or what do you think about free trade agreements? Just asking?
Oh give it a break rusty you keep asking black white questions to complex problems. Here is a clue the only time republicans whine about illegals is when it is election season as soon as republicans take office they are out hiring illegals to do everything for them, from building republican mansions to doing the yard work.
Free trade agreements help China. They don't help America.
this has nothing to do with border security and no one has been given any visa or citizenship.....people on all sides including you all have played this up for alot more than it really is......
Most americans would agree that we should deport those illegals who are a proven danger first, especially when we have limited resources. The right wants the great wall of mexico with barbed wire, drones, automated defense cannons, terminator robot and wants to slash federal spending and lower revenue.........
This is short term measure which doesn't apply to people in the future. Let us also not forget most of america is fine with these directions to prioritize the limited resources available. Even mitt romney says that the stauts of those who have come here through no fault of their own is an important issue.
You've said what the Right wants. Using those same type of terms, what does the Left want?
This has nothing to do with what the left wants this false equivalency both sides thing. You know people on the right rant about the massive border fence they'd like to see and then say no massive spending projects so guess what that's not possible.
The left wants to pay for a giant border fence since you can't do that for free. Nothing policy wise has changed.....people want to play this up as some ground breaking thing, there is nothing new or ground breaking about this.
ok whom- you're back off ignore because other libs are either afraid or too smart too answer.` Just answer the questions asked. We all understand that if Obama laid a turd, you'd be the first in line with a fork and spoon. But do you agree with his immigration policy laid out today?
PS- I do- long been on record as the needed policy is too allow educated immigrants in to work jos. Do you agree with me and Obama that we need to allow immigration to people with abilities to immigrate?
Rusty give it a break your dealing with a Government employee. He won't understand. He believes all is well. Until it bites him in the as@
Fishing again are we irish sorry but no I do not nor have I ever worked for the government. Right because the GOP who have been wrong since they got taken over by conservaturds has answers.
Poor rusty pimped out by the GOP and blames everyone except the people who pimped him out.
rusty,
we all understand if Obama laid a turd, you'd be first in line with a fork and spoon
your comment is disgusting. especially when we know that repubs ARE THE ONES WHO REALLY WORSHIP their dead leader of the repub party, ronald reagan.
you know, the one WHO RAISED TAXES 11 TIMES.
and lets not forget the other leader of the repub party, the disgusting rush limbaugh.
keep your bathroom humor to yourself. only repub/baggers find it funny.
hmm....was that the same Reagan who gave free amnesty to three million illegals?
wow Cynical,
i do believe you are right.
i believe clarity on that from rusty would mean so much more.
rusty?
hmm.
So Obama was willing to sign a controversial order to change the deportation focus of illegals but was not willing to sign the noncontroversial executive order that mandated that federal contractors not discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation......
WTF
you're lucky Romney really hates gays so much or you'd be in trouble mr. president
and before anyone chimes in the GOP have had little to no real move against that since this is not private industry it is government third party type workers.....
Michael Eric Dyson, great job this week. I always appreciate your appearances.
He is a moron....
He thinks hip-hop should be tought in grade schools....
There she is again. Making noise.
TM, Is that what that is! kind of like white noise?
Black Americans throughout the country have silently observed in shocked disbelief as Obama repeatedly lights one of his famous exploding cigars in rapid succession one after another in affirming that Obama is the most racist president against black Americans in recent history; that he pimps his half blackness solely to advance the cause of Obama; that he enlists the support the Congressional Black Caucus and Negro operatives of the DNC to play the race card purely to promote the cause of Barack Hussein Obama. Isn't it ironic that the nation's first black president has the most Lilly-white administration and campaign organization, which has not been seen since the racist Democrat Woodrow Wilson was president 100 years ago? This, of course, excludes the thuggish and thoroughly disgraced Eric Holder. These are facts Negro Elites know all too well, but zip their lips. They don't fit the narrative. Finding a credible black person in a position of authority in Obama's administration is only a tad less challenging than finding a chicken with lips. Finding a chicken with lips is only a tad less challenging than finding a black person in a responsible position in the Obama Campaign apparatus headed by the racist, David Axelrod. Obama and Axelrod both have a visceral disdain for black Americans that rivals the notorious, well-credentialed bigot Mr. Global Warming himself, Al Gore. If Obama was president of a private company, the EEOC would be over him like a cheap suit for his racist hiring practices. Stepping away from Obama's racist administration and his racist Campaign, in reviewing the impact on black Americans of having the nation's first black president, it can be unequivocally stated that the low-rent grifter in the Oval Office has caused more harm, caused more misery, destroyed more wealth, left more people jobless, killed more unborns, and dumbed-down more children in the black community in 3 years than a Eugene "Bull" Connor could do in 100 lifetimes. Black Americans are finally awakening to the reality that they hitched their wagon to the Lester Maddox of the 21st century—a genuine bigoted fraud. In this regard, Obama is the best thing that's happened to black Americans in terms of politics since the Emancipation Proclamation. Going forward, Obama will certainly serve as a constant reminder that the Democrat party is a criminally racist organization, a wolf wearing a sheep pelt spewing platitudinous soporific balderdash of social justice and "spreading the money around", while their only intent is to put us all in bondage as slaves to the state. The Negro grifters in the DNC and the Congressional Black Caucus will be remembered in history as traitors to the country and traitors to the black race. They sold their souls to Satan for thirty pieces of silver. They are an odious blight upon our Constitutional Republic. They represent nobody but their paymasters—certainly not the clueless African Americans who put them in positions of authority over our lives. I'm sure African American readers are deeply offended by this post, which is precisely why they call themselves "African Americans"—a term which is an oxymoron. One cannot be African and American simultaneously despite the hateful multicultural nonsense the Negro Marxist "professors" teach in Black Studies. You can choose to be "African", or you can choose to be "American". Happily, growing numbers of blacks are opting to be Americans. For all other blacks who share the same sentiments as Barack Hussein Obama, the DNC, Reverend Hymietown, Reverend Shakedown, Van Jones, Farrakhan, and Malik Zulu Shabazz, my counsel is to take your African American derrieres back to Africa. Robert Mugabe will be happy to arrange a "Welcome Home" reception. We don't want a thing to do with a third-world type Kleptocracy in America, which Obama, his nomenklatura in Hollywood, the Negro Elites, organized labor, mainstream media, and New World order globalists have promised as our future. And, to coin an old cliché I've been waiting to use for a long time; "I happen to be black."
Missed the Klan cross burning didn't you. That is the most racist clap trap I have ever seen a white person post.
You also happen to be stupid.
OldCoot You, Ron Christie and Alan West are the type of Black people that were in the big house while the others were in the shacks and old massah depended on you to keep his secrets from his wife when he went out to to the shacks for his nightly visits. You are the type that will never understand what Blacks went through in order for you to write that long cruddy blog denouncing the President and other African Americans. You are a disgrace to the Black race. You are that type of Black that is always agreeing with massah no matter the situation and that I mean when the President was called "tar baby" when those birther clowns are demanding his birth certificate and other situations where there are demands on the President. You are the type of Black person that did not see any wrong when that so-called reporter kept interrupting the President and then the fool said he thought the President had finished talking. People like him always has an excuse as to why they did what they did but what they did in the beginning was the actual way they wanted things to happen. OldCoot you and other Blacks like you are the sell outs. Oh yes you did not mention that so-called minister in Florida that was hanging a Obama doll. I guess that is OK with you. You should get in touch with him and let him know that as a Black man you approve of what he is doing and see how you are seen in his eyes. Yes OldCoot we Blacks have come a long ways and just think if old massah would not have brought your ancestors from Africa you would probably still be in Africa blaming some other Black person in the tribe because of your difference of opinion.
General rule anyone fearful is new world order globalists are clowns to be laughed that
So you're saying Liberals embrace the "New World Order" and global government? Is that the left's perspective?
Here is your first hint Then New World Order was a Bush 41 ideal. Funny how you seem to have been asleep at the time, but then like most tea baggers you are so misinformed.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8259800846851144110
Bill Clinton agrees with Bush 41 on the New World Order - both Progressives, one on the left and one on the right. Lousy good for nothing Progressives...
youtube.com/watch?v=NzUkhKaNylM
sodahead.com/united-states/the-progressives-and-the-new-world-order-the-bigger-picture/blog-290752/
No I'm saying you right wing nit wits are the ones running around with shiny hats to hide your brainwaves from the illuminati and the trilateral commission
Remember there is no New World Order.....in reality of course but most of you live elsewhere
I love this world peace is evil idea it reveals the real extremist denialist roots of your idealogy...........
Good day. Don't let the evil satanic government steal your brainwaves!
Crackhead must have passed around the crack pipe to all of your progressives on this blog.
Some of the most stupid comments and accusations and name calling are running rampant right now.
Keep it up. Nothing else for you to do but to call people names.
Its not even worth addressing. Have a great time.
To all you tea bagging republicans posting on a progressive blog, you have no rights to say whatever your little confused minds come up with, you are a guest of progressives you are not in charge as you seem to believe you are, that is just your delusions getting the better of you.99.9% of what you righties post are not worth replying to as it is nothing more then repeats of Reagan greatest lies. We call you righties names because that is what you righties do constantly so either suck it up or move on no one is forcing you to post here.
I think free speech applies to "...tea bagging republicans posting on a progressive blog,.." as well as anybody else, regardless of any perceived worth of reply.
Another person trying to use what he lacks understanding of. Since when has the Vine been a government agency. The vine is not a part of congress so it does not have to protect freedom of speech.
To whomitmay: To gain an understanding, in lieu of adherence to free speech in public that may be different in a "private community" forum: What are the guidelines, if you might direct me? Whatever might be considered a speech offense naturally could not be more offensive than free speech, if offensive speech is the concern here. Any help?
You agreed to abide by vine rules when you signed up for a vine account what you don't read agreements before you agree to them. That aside you seem to believe that freedom of speech allows you to post what you want then whine when no one will agree with your nonsense. We know that you righties are only here to stir the pot, how do we know this because you never see liberals acting the way you righties act on the vine on right wing sites. Now you want to whine about freedom of speech infringements then go to your right wing blogs and ask them why liberals aren't allowed to free speech.
Crack head does not mean he uses drugs......so Johnny you need to figure out what he means by his name.....he is checking out your thoughts.
To whomitmay: I merely made a claim as to the applicability of free speech in this forum and then asked how this all otherwise works. I didn't hear anything to whine about, but to question. I am curious to know if any of these missives have been edited or blocked and for what reason that we might look at in a context of free speech. Based on what I see blogged there hasn't been any infringement of free speech, if it were applicable, and anything goes. Does that make sense? Thanks---
Lets see in the last year we have dealt with dishonest tea baggers getting banned and coming back under new names, often we find out that these people have not one account but a number of accounts using different nicks as well as faking sex and race. In the last year we deal with the same 5 or 6 right wing talking points on every topic repeated no matter how many times its been debunked. We have suffered personal attacks as well as attacks on spelling and grammar when the tea baggers have nothing left. Tea baggers have been rude, crude, fact less as well as egotistical, self centered self seeking @!$%#s who seem to believe they can educate us with their bull @!$%#. That is not freedom of speech that is nothing more then childish antics often paid posters from Koch industries who think they are cute. What you hate is when liberals play your games back on you. It has nothing to do with free speech it is all about taking over left leaning blogs as you very well know.
Blue boy I think the main idea here is that if you want to come on to a place of opposite political beliefs intentionally to throw names and things that aren't facts to get attention don't whine that people are not nice to you......
It's the people who want to go on a show site to say the show sucks.....it's like don't watch it if you hate it so much then or go on the show's blog ya' know. Do you see what I'm saying. Now personally I believe Johnny is outlining the perfect "you're as bad as I am so I'm more moral" or vice versa approach by saying it's bad to name call while saying others are smoking crack or are stupid
Don't complain about being dirty if you choose to roll around in the mud
Whom boy is fighting to keep Conservative perspectives off the vine because it knows Liberal beliefs are very weak and can't stand up to scrutiny based on facts. So Whom boy attempts to claim that the vine is for Liberal/Progressive views only with no freedom of speech. HAHA! Speaks volumes about the weak positions of the left that can't survive the light of day. Truly amazing, but I expect no less from Liberals. The same poster that believes all Liberals think America is NOT exceptional. Very sad.
Right because conservatives who are lost in their own delusions are a threat yeah to Amish school children and themselves. You prove just how weak conservatives are, you have nothing but long worn out Reagan talking points. The only thing conservatives are good for are the laughs they provide by opening their mouths and inserting their foot. You just prove that you are far from exceptional in fact you are just another run of the mill loud mouth with nothing to say.
So what I get from whom and CC is some people have been "banned" for "dishonesty" and still come back. How does someone get banned as you say? It seems that regardless of any "rules", none are being followed that can't be overcome by some form of deception. How I ask my questions to get the facts of this matter may sound to you like whining and complaining coming from a loud mouth with nothing to say, but my quest for answers is genuine. So, let me rephrase and ask: Are there rules being applied successfully? So far, rules seems rather haphazardly applied and work only temporarily, where freedom of speech may not apply in law but is certainly practiced freely.
This is just another example from Dictator Obama, aka Liberal "Dear Leader" that believes he can bypass our Congress and the legislative process to implement his 'Dream Act" to provide amnesty to illegal aliens with a policy not vetted by the Representatives of our nation. He has no clue what the repercussions are from this dictatorial mandate. I'm so glad he will be voted out of office this November as Democrats are fleeing the party that embraced gay marriage, etc. We'll get America back on the right path soon... very soon. This was a sign of Obama desperation and pandering for Latino votes without realizing that a majority of Latinos came to America legally, don't support gay marriage and believe he is making matters worse, not better for our Republic. This Socialist despises the Constitution, which is why he tramples on it daily. You will see a stern Congressional response this week. This battle is not over!
The only desperation we see is yours knowing that Mittens magic underpants isn't enough to win in November. Go back to free republic rimjob needs to teach you more about posting on left leaning blogs.
Mittens and his magic underpants will get elected president of the nut house that conservatives escaped from.
Whom boy you sure love to talk about men's underpants and the 'magic' they appear to possess for you. Typical lunatic liberal with nothing much to say. HA! :-) Topic for left leaning blogs? underwear
No one legal immigration status has changed why do you lie about that?
Why are trying to lie to those here?
Could it be because you think we're as stupid as you are and will be willing to believe that?
who's been given amnesty
who's been ensured a visa
who gave amnesty to three million illegals no cost in the '80's
who's deported more illegals in three years than dubs did in eight?
Vatican: Obviously you are a racial bigot who is un-American and unpatriotic. You should be ashamed of yourself. Anyone who is against the Dream Act hates children. These young adults have spent most of their lives in America and gone through the public education system. Most of the "Dream kids" don't know anyone from their native countries nor know any language other than English. Deporting these children and young adults is unconscionable. Deporting these young adults, who are America's children, is about as vile, despicable, and un-American as you could be.
You fail to remember that the Dream Act passed the House of Representatives and received a majority of votes in the U.S. Senate back in December, 2010. The vote in the Senate was 55 to 41 in favor of the Dream Act. The GOP filibustered this bill requiring a 60 vote super majority. Several GOP Senators like Lisa Murkowsky voted for the Dream Act. The Dream Act will become law someday soon because even GOP filibusters can not stop what is the right thing to do forever.
There you Liberals go with your extremist and irrelevant speech: "You disagree, therefore you must, hate." Of course the Democrats in Congress supported the "Nightmare Act" since they could care less for our Constitution and the rule of law for legal immigration. Why do you hate legal immigrants? Why do you hate the Constitution and rule of law? Why do you hate American citizens as you place the rights of illegals ahead of law abiding Americans? Why do you want to bring down our Republic with a policy that encourages illegal immigration? The Dream Act will not become law because the GOP believes in legal immigration reform vs. mandates from a supposed Dictator that will be run out of town this November. God bless America. God bless our Republic. God bless immigrants that join our nation legally. You Progressives are a real cancer to our nation. You're a dying fringe breed. :-)
American legislatures need to change the laws and stop "Anchor Babies" whereby they simply give citizenship to illegals that manage to cross the border to have their babies born in the USA. It's big business in Mexico with their Progressive partners in the states. Democrats are anti-American!
"From 2008 and 2009, the figures are startling. In 24 months, 2.4 million immigrants, legal and illegal, arrived, as U.S. citizens were losing 8.6 million jobs. ... Why are we importing a million-plus workers a year when 17 million Americans can't find work? ...each year between 300,000 and 400,000 'anchor babies' are born to illegal aliens. These newborns are entitled to citizenship, free health care and education, welfare and food stamps." Democrats must pander for the Latino vote.
340,000 anchor babies were born in 2009 and constitute 8 percent of all live births nationally. We have over 4,000,000 anchor babies under the age of 18.... Birthright citizenship is not allowed in Mexico, or in South Africa, France, Germany, Japan or China. In fact, it is allowed almost nowhere except the United States. Yet, Americans are told that ending this practice would be 'racist.'"
Medical tourism has taken a new twist, exploring opportunities for noncitizens to obtain “birthright citizenship” for their babies by taking vacations to the United States with the chief goal of having them in U.S. hospitals, Jerome Corsi’s Red Alert reports.
“Since 2003, more than 12,000 Turkish children have been born in the U.S., giving them instant citizenship, under the 14th Amendment,” wrote Dave Gibson in the Examiner. “They are part of a growing trend known as ‘birth tourism.’”
Flourishing in countries like Turkey, companies in the birth tourism business are able to arrange trips to U.S. cities like New York, Los Angeles and Chicago at a price ranging from $25,000 to $40,000, all for a package that includes the flight, city tours, living accommodations for several months and hospital expenses.
“Birth tourism relies on the lax interpretation of the 14th Amendment that Hispanic immigrants entering the United States through Mexico have used to argue Hispanic children born in the United States to illegal immigrants are ‘birthright citizens,’” Corsi explained. “The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified in 1868, and its purpose was to make sure citizenship rights went to the native-born African-Americans whose rights were being challenged because they were recently freed slaves.”
He wrote that because hospitals issue birth certificates for every baby born, and birth certificates are key documents needed to get other official documentation, including driver’s licenses and passports, birth in the United States has been the backdoor for illegal immigrants to get their children rights of U.S. citizens.
Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies, estimates that one out of every 10 births in the United States is to an illegal-alien mother. He points out that consular officers are not permitted to turn down a visa application simply because a woman will soon give birth.
Red Alert reports that each year 400,000 pregnant women enter the United States specifically to take advantage of birth citizenship opportunities.
ok.....I get it. all woman should be stripped searched on the spot anywhere anytime they ((don't)) have vails and clothing covering their bodies.
a blood test immediately performed to diagnose if the unvailed woman is pg. also she should be carrying a valid thumb printed pictured gov license to validate her American born status.....now.....if that said female doesn't have a valid thumb pictured valid license.....an obortion said be performed on the streets at once by an accredited tea bagging doctor.
if an accredited tea bagging doctor is not available....that female should be shot on the spot.............
Thanks for adding your less than .02 cents of Liberal nonsense vs. attempting to debunk the facts I provided. I can always count on the radically clueless to provide irrelevant posts. Thanks! :-) Morons.
did your mother have to have an id to have you?
were you born in the United States?
are you an exception?
are you the entitled?
red alert.....you got that right....a red alert needs be made to the people of democracy that the right has transended to the past...........
the civil war is over.....just is the right has forgotten that...........red alert........
dixie went down in flames.....you guys want to do it all over again........
Vatican just here to serve his Koch Lords thinking we're as stupid as he is.
You have to understand the far right does not care about facts only beliefs, and they believe they can say anything whether it's trye or not and think that others will believe it. You see they are terrified by the idea that the white nationalist sympathizing base of followers they've worked so hard to cultivate over so many years is dying and won't be raising again...much like the confederacy....so their in the death throws of the end of the irrational movement.
it's hilarious to watch half wit idealogues try to invent facts and then think those with access to google won't know their not bs
Funny you fear the nonexistent new world order yet you named yourself after the capital of the organization that lead a centuries long quest of torture and brutality, inventing some of the most gruesome torture methods in history....and in modern times has hidden pedophiles from justice using the money of their parishoners to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars worldwide
I see the mentally ill are using the vine back logs to post on trying to hide from the mods again. Re reg insanity at its best.
Vatican: You continue to prove my point that you are a bigot who hates women, Hispanics, the working poor, and anyone else you think might cost a dollar of tax money. We need to recall that President Obama has asked for comprehensive immigration reform repeatedly from Congress. No president can pass comprehensive immigration reform without both the House and Senate voting on a bill. So far thanks to the "sit on your butt do nothing GOP Congress", immigration reform has languished in Congress for years. Anytime Democrats try to bring it up the GOP sponsors run away and hide or else filibuster good laws like the Dream Act.
What the GOP is good at is a double standard of hypocrisy. The GOP wants to exploit cheap labor. Big Banks on Wall Street run pay day lending shops on many Main Streets across America that charge exorbitant fees when the undocumented workers wire money home to their families. The eleven million undocumented workers are exploited by large corporations who like cheap wages and workers who don't complain about rules being broken by their employers. Major corporations that want cheap labor continuously seek out more undocumented workers while making generous campaign contributions to GOP candidates. Then the GOP loves to bitch about anyone who says these 11 million people need to be treated like human beings because it might cost them more money.
What the GOP really fears about immigration reform is that this cheap source of labor will dry up. The people who work in the fields, in our small businesses, in our construction trades are often undocumented workers. If these people are good enough to work here year after year doing our hardest dirtiest jobs they are good enough to become our citizens. I met plenty of Hispanics in the military. Many Hispanics also work in packing plants in guts and blood all day long. These people are good hard working family people who deserve a path to citizenship. Also these undocumented workers are paying Social Security, Medicare, federal and state income taxes and sales taxes. Don't let anyone tell you that these eleven million people do not pull their own weight. All of these undocumented workers deserve a residency card and a legal path to citizenship as long as they work and obey the law. I am really sick and tired of the prejudice that so many conservatives have for these 11 million people who build our buildings, work in back breaking service jobs, pick our vegetables, prepare our meat products, and serve in our military. If these eleven million people are good enough to do this heavy lifting for us the least we can do is give them all a legal path to citizenship.
Much of the paranoia about massive numbers of Hispanics wandering across our borders is somewhat misplaced. President Obama has tightened up border security by increasing the number of agents and using surveillance drones. Arrests on the border are up considerably while many Hispanics are staying south of the border because the jobs in America have dried up. One important fact that people forget about is that young Mexican women in their child bearing years are having less than the 2.1 children that demographers say are needed for replacement of the parents. Family planning and birth control programs have been very successful in Mexico.
The real fear that the GOP should have is that their won't be any undocumented workers wishing to come across our border in the future. A cheap source of labor for the Republicans will dry up. Many educated Hispanics are staying in Mexico because the Mexican economy is industrializing and moving into highly technical industrial manufacturing and service jobs that pay reasonably well. The GOP needs to fear too few Hispanic workers in the future. God forbid you have to pay someone who pulls the weeds in your garden or empties your bed pan in the rest home a decent living wage. The GOP are such a bunch of pathetic hypocrites and downright filled with xenophobic bigots who are more than happy to exploit cheap labor to subvert unions. My hope is to get all Hispanics turned into citizens then get them organized into unions and politically active on labor issues. Now there is a real nightmare for a conservative!
Rex, vatican doesn't have to worry about a bed pan or a rest home. if vatican gets its way the elderly will be ground into that pink slime.
then finally they can have the made in America label..............no offshorin that commodity.....lots of money to made until they run out of oldies.
@Rex,
Have you ever been to the Far East? (Thailand or Malaysia) These people make the very computer that you post on. They take pride in their work. I feel more threatened by them than I do about American workers. Guess what? They make a couple dollars an hour.
Yeah, you might think that we're taking advantage of cheap labor, but when I was there I could eat well on a dollar a day. Breakfast, lunch and dinner on a dollar a day. A couple dollars an hour is upper middle class for them.
Americans need to realize that there are people in the World that will do their job happily for a lot less money and a lot less hassle.
And die of horrible diseases before they are 50 years old. But leave it to a republican to only look at the advantages of those types of slave wages and ignore that he would be one of those earning slave wages instead of visiting those slave wage countries if he didn't have the high wage US job that ensured his safety from management stupidity causing him disability and death from them cutting back on safety to save a buck.
Democrats and Progressives are anti-Republic and anti-Constitution as they and only the left chose to ignore the rule of law in America. We have immigration laws on the books and Obama is the 1st President to NOT follow his Oath of Office to uphold and defend the Constitution by making these campaign pandering promises to the latino community. This is all about Obama while he plays with a segment of our population; thinking their simple fools. They all talk about how the Constitution 'gets in their way'.
Obama is playing the latinos as a bunch of suckers for the 2012 election. Typical Liberal that gives out "free stuff" that wasn't his to give in the first place. If you don't like the law have your Democratic leaders in the House and Senate propose new legislation. If the proposed legislation goes no where then that's because the Representatives of those states, voted in by their constituents, do NOT agree with your so-called, "reforms". Typical radical leftist that hate America.