And we thought Bill Clinton and Newark Mayor Cory Booker were off message.
Jeb Bush is back in the news today for saying there's no place in today's radical Republican Party for former President Ronald Reagan, nor his own father, George H.W. Bush, who served as Reagan's VP then was elected to succeed Reagan as president.
Jeb Bush says Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush would not succeed in today's Republican party. Michael Eric Dyson discusses the topic with Salon's Joan Walsh.
"They got a lot of things done with bipartisan support, but right now it’s just difficult to imagine," Bush said in a round-table discussion with reporters and editors held by Bloomberg View here in New York.
"Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, similar to my dad, they would have had a hard time if you define the Republican Party — and I don’t — as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement, doesn't allow for finding some common ground."
But no-new-taxes-ever pledge king Grover Norquist of who leads Americans For Tax Reform will have none of it.
"That’s foolish," Norquist told TPM in an interview. "It’s stup—it’s bizarre."
But, of course, it's not stup—or bizarre. After massive tax cuts for the wealthy early in his presidency, Reagan raised taxes 11 times in subsequent legislative compromises with Congress.
And then there was the 1990 budget deal that Jeb's father struck as president, which included tax increases in spite of his "read my lips, no new taxes" campaign pledge.
That deal angered many Republicans and is viewed as contributing to George Bush's re-election loss in 1992, but Jeb Bush said "that created the spending restraint of the 1990s; more than anything else that was helpful in creating a climate for sustained economic growth."
But here's where Jeb Bush does say something truly bizarre: he blames the hyper-partisan state of affairs in Washington (and the GOP's shift to the hard right) on Barack Obama. Was he he was on vacation when all those high-profile Republicans vowed to deny him a second term:
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dadgum....pardner.....looks like a bushwack a commin......again.................
Jeb may be looking to be VP. Romney could do worse. Romney probably will do worse. My money's on Portman of Ohio.
Jeb is correct about Reagan being too moderate for today's GOP. Today's GOP is just to the right of the Third Reich.
India, I think you are right about VP being Portman . Romney opened a new campaign office here and the moneys all ready burning a hole in there pockets.
I have to admit i am surprised Jeb Bush said they are to radical. Should speak volumes to them . I think if Regan was alive he would of ripped them a new one for what has happen in this country. He may been allot of things but i wonder if he would of told them to shut up and work for the people not them selves!!!
Yea, but it was Reagan who gave us the pain in the butt norquest.
I see Jeb is now apart of the bush coloring book and comic book business. Good for laughs
Now i suppose they are planning to ad a bunch of pledges.
Pam, I hadn't heard that about the new campaign office and money pouring in to Ohio, but that is probably due to Portman. I think Reagan would be genuinely shocked at the turn the Republican party has taken. I know my late parents, who were Republican, would be appalled.
By the way, has anybody on this vine from either side ever voted Grover Norquist as official policy maker for the USA? How did this joker get control of our law making body?
More to the point, how the devil do we end his reign?
I have an idea, but I'd get arrested for it.
India~ You haven't heard? Old Grover was elected King of All Repubs in a smoky backroom at the Heritage Foundation. It was reported on Fox, did you miss it? LOL
Norquist is just small enough to be drowned in a bathtub.
You're probably right. He's rich enough to have one of those huge bathtubs with all the bells and whistles. There would be PLENTY of room to drown him in there! :)
Had no idea Jeb was runing for office....
Hey ed show, why not talk about jon corzine????
The over 8% unemployment?
The over 40 million on food stamps???
The over 12 million Americans out of work???
Oh wait, the ed show thinks those numbers are just fine, and would like to see them go up some.
They need more ammunition for their long "War" on former president Bush..
your name says it all and your so far right you can't EVEN SEE what good ol' JEB is talking about.
See ya! I can't deal with this again tonight. Have fun Stupidita.
India out.
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The Financial Times reported that many industry professionals were resigned to the idea that there would be no criminal charges in the matter of massive misuse of so-called segregated customer funds by MF Global. According to the article, MF Global's Trustee, James Giddens, is trying to sell the story that sloppy bookkeeping in chaotic final hours prior to the firm's bankruptcy was the problem. You see, according to Giddens, it was unintentional. Former MF Global customers are not buying that story. This is the computer age, and any adequate control system can more than keep up. Moreover, MF Global's officers attested that the firm's internal controls were adequate. At the very minimum it seems they should face a Sarbanes-Oxley lawsuit, and it looks as if there's even more to it than that.
Behavior that Giddens is trying to pass off as sloppy bookkeeping is fraud's identical twin and a serious violation of U.S. rules. Early estimates of $600 million of impermissibly transferred customer money later climbed to $1.2 billion.
President Obama's Campaign Appears to Embrace Jon Corzine, a Top Bundler
Up until now, President Obama's campaign has given the appearance of an endorsement of Jon Corzine, the former CEO of MF Global, a former New Jersey governor, a former New Jersey U.S. senator and major campaign contribution bundler for President Obama. At least this is the interpretation of many who viewed the list (as of April 30, 2012) of President Obama's money raisers through the first quarter of 2012. With no clarification or footnote, Jon Corzine is shown as having raised more than $500 thousand in the roster of 2012 Volunteer Fundraisers. The re-election campaign has not disclosed the exact number. I requested further information from the campaign and received this response:
That may be. The campaign responded it told the press this in January, and the press has forgotten. Really? It told the press in January and now the campaign is blaming the press for its interpretation of a list released in April titled "2012 Volunteer Fundraisers." If the campaign wants to eliminate ambiguity, it can put it's assertion that Corzine "is not a part of the campaign any longer" on the list in writing for all to see. But that would make it clear it is distancing itself from Corzine. It seems to me that President Obama's campaign is trying to have it both ways: deniability as it gives the appearance of support for Jon Corzine. Both President Obama and Vice President Biden have publicly praised Corzine during Corzine's previous campaigns:
Vice President Biden Praising Jon Corzine
As a mere freshman senator, Jon Corzine became the chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) in 2004. Senator Debbie Stabenow (D. Mich.) was the vice-chairman of the DSCC while Corzine was chairman. The DSCC raised money for the campaign of a hopeful who would become Senator Barack Obama (D., IL).
Jon Corzine, Chair of 2004 DSCC, Senator Debbie Stabenow, Vice Chair
Farmers' money (along with other customers' money) was impermissibly transferred from MF Global. Senator Stabenow is the Senate Agriculture Committee Chairwoman who lobbed soft-ball questions at Corzine during hearings. If you don't look for fraud, you don't find it. She kept asking "where is the money?" but that is what the investigation is supposed to uncover. Corzine claimed he didn't know. If Senator Stabenow wanted to ask a sensible question to pin down Corzine and get to the bottom of matters, it would have gone something like this: "To the best of your recollection, to which financial institutions was money of any kind transferred from MF Global the week before the bankruptcy? Can't remember? Then please name one."
For example, it later came out that Corzine knew of a $175 million transfer to JPMorgan and still later it was revealed that the source of funds was "segregated" customer accounts. This gives the appearance that the Agricultural Committee hearing was cheesy theater instead of a genuine attempt to hold Corzine accountable under Sarbanes-Oxley rules and the rules of the entities that regulated MF Global.
[After Stabenow's shameful performance, she can be thankful that her Republican opponent this election cycle is Pete Hoekstra, who approved a bizarre campaign ad that helped tank his lower poll numbers even further. Are these two the best people Michigan can find to run for that senate seat?]
Yet another Democratic Member of Congress asked tough questions in the matter of MF Global and was accused by other Democratic Members of not being a "good Democrat." But the accusers have a warped definition. Their definition of a so-called good Democrat is at odds with the definition of a good American.
A Classic Situation for Fraud
Terrence Duffy, executive chairman of the CME Group, testified to Congress on December 13, 2011 that a draft report showing a more than $900 million shortfall in required segregation was withheld from regulators. MF Global employees later claimed this was due to an "accounting error," but auditors found no such so-called accounting error. Later, MF Global admitted the shortfall was real and that so-called segregated customer funds had been impermissibly transferred. Lawyers notified Duffy by phone and email that a senior MF Global employee indicated Corzine was aware of "loans" of money from segregated account to MF Global's European affiliate and that at all times the people doing the transfers were under the authority of MF Global management. Duffy's testimony on these matters begins at 17:24 on this C-Span clip:
An Apparent Indication of Intent
Former MF Global Chief Executive Officer Jon Corzine has told lawmakers he "never intended" to break any rules and did not give instructions to misuse customer funds. But Corzine was in charge, rules were thoroughly broken, regulators claim MF Global employees lied to them, and an estimated $1.2 billion in customers' money was impermissibly transferred
Are you from New Jersey? Wasn't he also on GW staff?
How did we get to talking about John Corzine in an article about Jeb Bush saying that his father and the Messiah Reagan wouldn't be part of the Republicon party of today?
Another Right Wing conspiracy!
"Conspiracy" tell that to the people that lost their money at MF global under corzines leadership...
He broke the law!!!!!!!!!!! lost over close to $2 billions of the customers money.
But the liberal media keeps pushing it under the rug.
Way more important to twist what Jeb Bush has to say.
What Jeb Bush is saying is all too true about the Republican party today. The Republican party is a party of right winged radicals and bigots interested only in partisan ideology. The Tea Baggers with their John Birch Society, elements are tied together by ALEC and donations from the Koch brothers, to push an intolerant radical ideology. The radical right would destroy Medicare and Medicare under the Ryan budget proposal. Senior Citizens would pay an extra $6,000 per year for coverage by the GOP "voucherization" of Medicare.
The GOP wants to destroy programs the middle class needs while promoting more tax cuts for the wealthy. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan's budget would make the Bush tax cuts permanent. The Center for Budget Policies and Priorities says that the Bush tax cuts and the two Bush wars are the major drivers of today's trillion dollar budget deficits. We can not afford these tax cuts but the radical right keeps pushing to make them permanent! Hypocrisy and shame do not exist in the Republican party today because radicals that only care about destruction are only concerned with themselves not the consequences of their words or actions upon everyone else.
Political scientists say that you might get elected by appealing to the far right or far left but you are forced to govern from the center. This fact is why Ronald Reagan and the elder Bush tried to get bipartisan support for much of their agenda. These men knew, that they had to mostly govern from the center. Today's Republicans have moved so far to the right that they are unable to govern. The GOP's racist hatred of President Obama is fueled by the fear that the white man's culture and place in society is slipping away by those in the radical right winged camp. The radical right wing would be happy with a reincarnated Confederate States of America because they just do not give a rat's tail about the modern United States of America. The modern U.S. has to compete in the hyper-competitive world of the 21st century global economy against the BRIC's and Pacific Rim countries while the GOP wants to bring us back to the 19th century. Can you say "cultural lag"?
I say the GOP in total power will guarantee the rise of Asia and the decline of America. I would suggest those right wingers on this blog and elsewhere do some rethinking about their idiotic agenda that will destroy our country. Instead these right wingers are trying to star in an reincarnation of "Night of the Living Dead". These right wingers are all a bunch of stupid zombies who are a waste of good oxygen. The right wing's empathy for other human beings in our society is zilch. Today's GOP is just like a herd of mindless zombies, who rule the cemetery of the intellectually deceased. If we are not on guard against this they will tear America down rather than build it up. Go support President Obama and Democrats this November and always to prevent this from happening.
I think they are more wanting a night of the long knives. zombies fit, they march in a hap hazard group but still march......brains they need brains...............to eat....
Thanks REX IN MINNESOTA...said with dignity, civility & Intelligence, sorely lacking on many sites
What all is not happy in Tea Town! WOW! And we thought George was the dumb one! I guess it runs in the family! Is there a break in the synchronized scripting. Could it be the who's down in Whoville are starting to awake!
There is NO Republican Party anymore (In Word Only). For those who have not been aware, It's the Tea Party. The Tea Party used the Republican Brand as a back door into politics, replacing Republican Candidates as they went. The Tea Party was formed by a handful of people preying on the fears and ignorance of the people to get their movement started. They have been able to fool the masses into believing they are the party of change but infact are taking this nation backwards decades while the New Republican Party is still being funded by the 1% and still doing business as usual on Capital Hill by selling out the people with their payoffs for campaign funding. It amazes me at the ignorance in this country. Remember, we have to many teachers, we need to get rid of them. Now you know why. Lets keep America Stupid, Pregnant and working for poverty wages. Vote Tea Party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Vote Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, you are absolutely right. You have to wonder if this country can ever recover with so many people voting Republican and that goes for the Indies, too. They had better wise up fast if they want to ever be able to vote again, and vote Dem in Nov.
You are right if there never was a BUSH presidency we would not have the problems we have now. And people are stupid if they knew what was in the RYAN budget it would not be a close election.
So tell us what is in the RYAN budegt anyway????
Do you even know?
Or just what the ed show tells you to know??
OBAMA 2012...
LOL......
Like a snow flake in hell is his chances of winning in Nov..
Same old, same old. The GOP doesn't have a workable plan for the people of America - something that would win them the votes - so they turn to the mindless "bullies-with-a-common-cause" tactic. They don't use specifics (or at least none that are true) and they don't use the racial card, but by making their goal as simple as possible, they allow people to be racial and stupid, hiding it in their support of the GOP. Thankfully, the sanity continues to spread, even among strong Republicans like Jeb Bush. The rest of the wingnuts are beyond hope. Wake up, AMERICA! Can you honestly not see what they are doing?!?!?! OBAMA '12!!!!!
Barbara, do you mean specifics like " Hope and change " ?