Are you admitting that you are a no-one ?? he he heee !! and what's a TALBE ? ha ha !!

http://amasci.com/weird/flamer.html

Narcisstic: we have extreme vanity, taking the form of an exquisite
sensitivity to anything which even SLIGHTLY resembles an insult... -->
Hypocritical: totally enmeshed in a self-serving bias: "when I do
something, it's a pure and justified deed, but when you do exactly the same
thing, it's a shameful and disgusting PLOY

es stupida - I figure that a Talbe - is Itralian for Table ?? !!!

Stupida, and just how do you know we dont. I'm on 3 others. Haven't seen your name on any of them

Must have gone off to read a more interesting blog, and took her own advice.Larry pull her page and see.

TM---thanks for the links, we have a meeting tomorrow, our grassroots team is going to distribute all kind of information to new voters, so far we've reached over 500-but we've just got started. I am an environmentalist., to the bone, I'll use the Koch brothers as a talking point, on why we need to get involved in ways to save the environment. As well as pushing for democrats, local and national. I've got a lot of research prepared, thanks for you input.

Glad to help. Don't want it to fall on deaf ears. Nice to know my work is not in vain

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Why Obama Will Win in 2012 !

By: Tony Elliott (View Profile)

It now seems that the 2012 election is in the bag for Obama as once again, Republican voters are rallying for a candidate that isn’t electable for president.

During the last election, John McCain was supported by Republican voters, but was a candidate everyone should have known didn’t stand a chance of getting elected. McCain’s so called attitude of crossing the political aisle to get things done signaled to many that he was unable to stand his ground on important issues. It meant that what he may get done would be so deluded in compromise that in the end, it would be meaningless. With McCain’s isle hopping political view, he proved to a majority of voters that as President, he would be totally ineffective in representing core Conservative values, demanded of a candidate in being elected to the White House.

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http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/11/15/10_reasons_why_obama_will_win_in_2012

10 Reasons Why Obama Will Win In 2012 !

BY DAVID ROTHKOPF | NOVEMBER 15, 2011

Watching this weekend's Republican presidential debate on U.S. foreign policy, you might be forgiven if you thought it shed absolutely no light on U.S. foreign policy. After all, by definition ... and by God's good graces ... the views expressed represented those of people who will have precious little influence over America's international course. Only one of these people can be the Republican nominee. And, in part thanks to performances like what we saw on Saturday, even that individual is very likely not going to ever be president of the United States.

As a consequence the vapidity of Herman Cain is irrelevant. The pro-torture stance of the wing-nuts in the group is irrelevant. The ridiculous zero-based foreign aid formula suggested by Rick Perry is irrelevant. Even the pontificating of Republican non-Romney of the Month, Newt Gingrich is irrelevant. Because these weren't foreign policy ideas or positions. They were desperate cries for attention.

Sadly, also irrelevant will be thoughtful views offered by Jon Huntsman, who clearly distinguished himself as the most capable, thoughtful, experienced, and credible of the crew.

This means that the 30 minutes of the debate that CBS chose not to air will have a virtually identical impact to the 60 minutes of Obama-bashing, fear-mongering, and peacocking that actually were broadcast.

It is possible that some of the views that were offered by likely nominee Mitt Romney could be consequential. This would not seem to be good for U.S.-China relations except that there is virtually zero possibility that President Mitt Romney -- who would essentially be the hand-picked candidate of the business community and the major party presidential candidate with the closest ties to America's economic establishment in modern memory -- would actually follow through on his anti-Beijing saber-rattling once in office. Further, some of his statements were essentially meaningless to begin with -- like his assertion that a vote for him was the only way to avert Iran getting the bomb, not being backed by facts or even being remotely credible given how key what happens between now and when the next president takes office will be.

But more important still is that Romney isn't going to be the next President either. In all likelihood that will be Barack Obama. Here are 10 reasons why:

Obama Will Win In 2012 !

http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/05/16/poll-most-say-obama-will-win-reelection/

OMG - Obama/Biden 2012 !!!!! ======= 6 - Now Thats News - ha ha haa !!!

Hey MD---Hey SIX

Hey Rachael - U - OKee-Dokee ???

Hey.............................. Rachael!!!!!

Superstition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CFuCYNx-1g&feature=related

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Why Obama Will Win in 2012 !

By: Tony Elliott (View Profile)

It now seems that the 2012 election is in the bag for Obama as once again, Republican voters are rallying for a candidate that isn’t electable for president.

During the last election, John McCain was supported by Republican voters, but was a candidate everyone should have known didn’t stand a chance of getting elected. McCain’s so called attitude of crossing the political aisle to get things done signaled to many that he was unable to stand his ground on important issues. It meant that what he may get done would be so deluded in compromise that in the end, it would be meaningless. With McCain’s isle hopping political view, he proved to a majority of voters that as President, he would be totally ineffective in representing core Conservative values, demanded of a candidate in being elected to the White House.

This time around, Republicans are again, poised to elect a man who will not win against Barack Obama, because he is not electable as president due to his religious background. The fact that Romney has ties to the Jesus Christ Church of Latter Day Saints and is a devout Mormon, nixes all chances he ever had of being elected President.

While the LDS church struggles along even in today’s society for recognition as a legitimate religious organization, the tarnish of it being a cult remains and will ultimately be responsible for Romney losing the election in 2012.

Thus, all this support by Republican voters as seen in the latest polls for Romney indicate the willingness of Republican voters to choose a man into being nominated for their party who ultimately can’t win. What is going on now during the Primaries is many voters are selecting Romney because he seems to have their requirements in both policy and moral value, not to mention he seems to be more electable than the rest of his opponents. This however will not trickle down to his being able to garner enough votes to beat Obama in 2012. Romney will handily lose the election simply because most voters will not have the nerve to vote for a man connected with a religious organization deemed by many as a cult.

The news over the past few years of sex with underage girls and multiple marriages within offshoot branches of the LDS church whether recognized by the church or not, further damages the Mormon Church’s image of being anything other than a questionable organization.

The Republican candidate most likely able to beat Obama in 2012 is Ron Paul, but his chances of even winning two states during the Primary are slim to none because he is out gunned by the charisma and star power of Romney and Gingrich. However, charisma and star power won’t get you elected alone.

Perhaps, the man most electable was Herman Cain, but past sexcapades ruined any chance of him getting any position better than White House Gardener.

Although Bill Clinton could run for President today and win by a landslide, even though his record of sexual affairs and encounters is no better than Herman Cain’s.

Unless things change drastically between now and the Republican National Convention, it appears that republicans will have to deal with another 4 years of the Obama Administration. As it is presently, Obama doesn’t even have to campaign to reclaim the White House. All he has to do is sit quietly and watch Republicans nominate a man who he knows he can beat easily. Obama could even refuse to participate in any debates at all and still win.

What Obama should be doing is going on the road, thanking all the Republican voters for re-electing him.

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102 - he is black and the teabaggin-gop-neo-cons - Cannot/Will not stand for that !!!!

103 - the teabaggin-gop-neo-cons - Will Not Allow Jobs in America until Prez. Obama Is Ousted from Office

Obama/Biden 2012 !!!!

And The ONE Reason That He Will Win--"WILLARD MITT ROMNEY!"

Here - Hear !!!! After all - Who would want a GOMER in the white house that doesnt like cookies that are made In America - for cryin' out loud !!!!

No need for numbering.

I understand you conservatives got nothing, except your feeble attempts to convince the rest of us that somehow President Obama has no record to run on or has accomplished nothing or those accomplishments are somehow insignificant or somehow being ham-stringed by a do-nothing congress determined to see him fail has no bearing whatsoever on his ability to accomplish anything, or, 101 reasons that are malarky. Too bad for you that the facts tell otherwise.

Under President Obama the economy is improving, the unemployment rate is dropping, we're paying the lowest taxes in 65 years, private sector jobs are consistently being added each month, he saved or created millions of jobs with the Recovery Act and the auto loan bailout, the stock market has doubled and at its highest in 13 years, regulations have been passed that will prevent another casino on Wall Street and economic meltdown, more oil leases have been opened up than by previous administrations and oil production and active wells in the U.S. are at the highest level in nearly a decade, we're exiting wars we should have never engaged in, we're earning back the respect of the rest of the world, major landmark legislation has been passed that benefits millions of middle and working class Americans, e.g., Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, major landmark legislation has been passed that expands federal hate crime laws which is known as the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act , a draconian discriminatory policy, DADT, within our military was repealed, several leaders of al-Qaeda have been captured or killed, and to reiterate, the most wanted Osama bin Laden, the mastermind behind 9/11 was hunted down and killed, etc., etc., etc.

All this and so much more despite being handed the worst exconomic catastrophe in 65 years caused by proven failed republican policies and then being ham-stringed by a do nothing obstructionist republican congress who's only goal is to defeat him and see him fail no matter the cost to this nation.

President Obama's economic and foreign policies are working. Those are the facts.

Your do nothing Harry Reid is what you need to be referring to. If it wasn't for Las Vegas he wouldn't even be here today. The Unions bought his seat just like they try to buy every seat. Without the Unions with Nevada like at the bottom of the economy owns Harry Reid, The Do Nothing Senator.

@babina,

The economy handed Obama was not because of failed Republican policies. It was because of failed Democratic policies. It was because of the Community Reinvestment Act which made banks give out a certain number of subprime loans because Democrats thought everyone deserved to own a house even if they couldn't afford it. Then they created the GSEs Fannie and Freddie to provide the safety net for subprime lenders. No bank in their right mind would lend money to someone who couldn't afford to pay it back unless the Govenment guaranteed it with Fannie and Freddie.

Anyway, let's got on to what else you posted.

Ask the stockholders of GM if they got a good deal? They were given a penny on the dollar and then the company they invested in was given to the Unions.

Half of the 'do-nothing' Congress is controlled by the Senate. President Obama said if he got his stimulus, unemployment wouldn't go above 8%. It's been above 8% his entire Presidency. Just yesterday, he said the private sector was okay, until he flip-flopped and said it wasn't.

Until Congress repeals the Community Reinvestment Act which forced banks to give out subprime loans and then gave the banks a safety net in Fannie and Freddie, there is no guarantee that a Wall Street collapse will not happen again.

Wall Street may have grown under Obama, but the dollar isn't worth as much because of the Fed practice of Quantitative Easing which is devaluing our dollar on purpose to make American made goods look more afforable internationally.

This has been the worst President in US history. It is mind boggling as to how anyone can support him.

ABO 2012.

Clinton Explains financial collapse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1hGL7UAMX0&NR=1

Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Democrats are Clueless on Freddie Mac Fannie Mae and the financial credit crisis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInSfanqg&feature=related

TELL ME. IS THERE SOMETHING YOU JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS?

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/04/25/5_reasons_obama_will_win_in_november

5 More Reasons Why Obama Will Win in 2012 !

BY AARON DAVID MILLER | APRIL 25, 2012

It's almost May. Six months to go until the only presidential poll that counts.

Worries abound in the Obama camp: Large Democratic donors have dried up, the fragile economic recovery is looking weaker, independents are, well, being independent, and the Republicans have finally found their nominee and maybe their voice too.

Worrying about getting reelected is part of a president's job description, but this president really shouldn't be all that concerned. The election is bound to be closer than in 2008, but when it's over, the presidential gods will likely have smiled kindly on Barack Obama. Here are the top five reasons why.

1. Americans are reelecting imperfect and flawed presidents.

I know it's going to come as a shocker, but Obama hasn't been a great president in his first term and is unlikely to be one in his second. His two claims to fame -- saving the economy from another Great Depression and passing his signature health-care legislation -- won't get him there. The first will largely be taken for granted, and the second is still a very uncertain and untested proposition. The president's foreign policy has been very competent, but aside from the killing of Osama bin Laden, it has had no spectacular successes.

But what's so great about being great anyway? Greatness is certainly not a requirement for reelection.

The last two U.S. presidents -- Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- were reelected comfortably, and neither could hardly be considered a candidate for the presidential hall of fame. Both were flawed and imperfect men: Obama's predecessor was below average; Clinton clearly above average. That's about where Obama falls too. Consider this: Since Franklin D. Roosevelt, the United States has had four presidents who served out two terms: Eisenhower, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush 43. Even with a push from partisans and revisionist historians, none really belongs in the very top tier.

". The Unions bought his seat just like they try to buy every seat. Without the Unions with Nevada like at the bottom of the economy owns Harry Reid, The Do Nothing Senator."

LOL Six you do know Nevada is a RTW state right? guess The GOP is still hurting cause finial called their a$$ out for what we all know they been doing sabotaging and obstructing.

true Las Vegas being the largess population along with Henderson. and honestly don't you feel better off with Harry over totally whacked out Angle?

The main reasons Obama will win are twofold, Sixpick:

1. It's very hard to beat an incumbent president.

2. Romney is an inexperienced, weak candidate; devoid of character, devoid of personality, and no one on the right trusts him as they don't know if he's a liberal, moderate, progressive, conservative, severely conservative or none of the above.

Or all of the above.

It was because of the Community Reinvestment Act which made banks give out a certain number of subprime loans because Democrats thought everyone deserved to own a house even if they couldn't afford it.

Um, Sixpack, sorry to burst your little misinformed bubble but......

December 21, 2008 - NY Times

The Reckoning
White House Philosophy Stoked Mortgage Bonfire

By JO BECKER, SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and STEPHEN LABATON

“We can put light where there’s darkness, and hope where there’s despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home.” — President Bush, Oct. 15, 2002

WASHINGTON — The global financial system was teetering on the edge of collapse when President Bush and his economics team huddled in the Roosevelt Room of the White House for a briefing that, in the words of one participant, “scared the hell out of everybody.”

It was Sept. 18. Lehman Brothers had just gone belly-up, overwhelmed by toxic mortgages. Bank of America had swallowed Merrill Lynch in a hastily arranged sale. Two days earlier, Mr. Bush had agreed to pump $85 billion into the failing insurance giant American International Group.

The president listened as Ben S. Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve, laid out the latest terrifying news: The credit markets, gripped by panic, had frozen overnight, and banks were refusing to lend money.

Then his Treasury secretary, Henry M. Paulson Jr., told him that to stave off disaster, he would have to sign off on the biggest government bailout in history.

Mr. Bush, according to several people in the room, paused for a single, stunned moment to take it all in.

“How,” he wondered aloud, “did we get here?”

Eight years after arriving in Washington vowing to spread the dream of homeownership, Mr. Bush is leaving office, as he himself said recently, “faced with the prospect of a global meltdown” with roots in the housing sector he so ardently championed.

There are plenty of culprits, like lenders who peddled easy credit, consumers who took on mortgages they could not afford and Wall Street chieftains who loaded up on mortgage-backed securities without regard to the risk.

But the story of how we got here is partly one of Mr. Bush’s own making, according to a review of his tenure that included interviews with dozens of current and former administration officials.

From his earliest days in office, Mr. Bush paired his belief that Americans do best when they own their own home with his conviction that markets do best when let alone.

He pushed hard to expand homeownership, especially among minorities, an initiative that dovetailed with his ambition to expand the Republican tent — and with the business interests of some of his biggest donors. But his housing policies and hands-off approach to regulation encouraged lax lending standards.

Mr. Bush did foresee the danger posed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored mortgage finance giants. The president spent years pushing a recalcitrant Congress to toughen regulation of the companies, but was unwilling to compromise when his former Treasury secretary wanted to cut a deal. And the regulator Mr. Bush chose to oversee them — an old prep school buddy — pronounced the companies sound even as they headed toward insolvency.

As early as 2006, top advisers to Mr. Bush dismissed warnings from people inside and outside the White House that housing prices were inflated and that a foreclosure crisis was looming. And when the economy deteriorated, Mr. Bush and his team misdiagnosed the reasons and scope of the downturn; as recently as February, for example, Mr. Bush was still calling it a “rough patch.”

The result was a series of piecemeal policy prescriptions that lagged behind the escalating crisis.

“There is no question we did not recognize the severity of the problems,” said Al Hubbard, Mr. Bush’s former chief economics adviser, who left the White House in December 2007. “Had we, we would have attacked them.”

Looking back, Keith B. Hennessey, Mr. Bush’s current chief economics adviser, says he and his colleagues did the best they could “with the information we had at the time.” But Mr. Hennessey did say he regretted that the administration did not pay more heed to the dangers of easy lending practices. And both Mr. Paulson and his predecessor, John W. Snow, say the housing push went too far.

“The Bush administration took a lot of pride that homeownership had reached historic highs,” Mr. Snow said in an interview. “But what we forgot in the process was that it has to be done in the context of people being able to afford their house. We now realize there was a high cost.”

For much of the Bush presidency, the White House was preoccupied by terrorism and war; on the economic front, its pressing concerns were cutting taxes and privatizing Social Security. The housing market was a bright spot: ever-rising home values kept the economy humming, as owners drew down on their equity to buy consumer goods and pack their children off to college.

Lawrence B. Lindsey, Mr. Bush’s first chief economics adviser, said there was little impetus to raise alarms about the proliferation of easy credit that was helping Mr. Bush meet housing goals.

“No one wanted to stop that bubble,” Mr. Lindsey said. “It would have conflicted with the president’s own policies.”

Today, millions of Americans are facing foreclosure, homeownership rates are virtually no higher than when Mr. Bush took office, Fannie and Freddie are in a government conservatorship, and the bailout cost to taxpayers could run in the trillions.

As the economy has shed jobs — 533,000 last month alone — and his party has been punished by irate voters, the weakened president has granted his Treasury secretary extraordinary leeway in managing the crisis.

Never once, Mr. Paulson said in a recent interview, has Mr. Bush overruled him. “I’ve got a boss,” he explained, who “understands that when you’re dealing with something as unprecedented and fast-moving as this we need to have a different operating style.”

Mr. Paulson and other senior advisers to Mr. Bush say the administration has responded well to the turmoil, demonstrating flexibility under difficult circumstances. “There is not any playbook,” Mr. Paulson said.

The president declined to be interviewed for this article. But in recent weeks Mr. Bush has shared his views of how the nation came to the brink of economic disaster. He cites corporate greed and market excesses fueled by a flood of foreign cash — “Wall Street got drunk,” he has said — and the policies of past administrations. He blames Congress for failing to reform Fannie and Freddie. Last week, Fox News asked Mr. Bush if he was worried about being the Herbert Hoover of the 21st century.

“No,” Mr. Bush replied. “I will be known as somebody who saw a problem and put the chips on the table to prevent the economy from collapsing.”

But in private moments, aides say, the president is looking inward. During a recent ride aboard Marine One, the presidential helicopter, Mr. Bush sounded a reflective note.

“We absolutely wanted to increase homeownership,” Tony Fratto, his deputy press secretary, recalled him saying. “But we never wanted lenders to make bad decisions.”

A Policy Gone Awry

Darrin West could not believe it. The president of the United States was standing in his living room.

It was June 17, 2002, a day Mr. West recalls as “the highlight of my life.” Mr. Bush, in Atlanta to unveil a plan to increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million, was touring Park Place South, a development of starter homes in a neighborhood once marked by blight and crime.

Mr. West had patrolled there as a police officer, and now he was the proud owner of a $130,000 town house, bought with an adjustable-rate mortgage and a $20,000 government loan as his down payment — just the sort of creative public-private financing Mr. Bush was promoting.

“Part of economic security,” Mr. Bush declared that day, “is owning your own home.”

A lot has changed since then. Mr. West, beset by personal problems, left Atlanta. Unable to sell his home for what he owed, he said, he gave it back to the bank last year. Like other communities across America, Park Place South has been hit with a foreclosure crisis affecting at least 10 percent of its 232 homes, according to Masharn Wilson, a developer who led Mr. Bush’s tour.

“I just don’t think what he envisioned was actually carried out,” she said.

Park Place South is, in microcosm, the story of a well-intentioned policy gone awry. Advocating homeownership is hardly novel; the Clinton administration did it, too. For Mr. Bush, it was part of his vision of an “ownership society,” in which Americans would rely less on the government for health care, retirement and shelter. It was also good politics, a way to court black and Hispanic voters.

But for much of Mr. Bush’s tenure, government statistics show, incomes for most families remained relatively stagnant while housing prices skyrocketed. That put homeownership increasingly out of reach for first-time buyers like Mr. West.

So Mr. Bush had to, in his words, “use the mighty muscle of the federal government” to meet his goal. He proposed affordable housing tax incentives. He insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meet ambitious new goals for low-income lending.

Concerned that down payments were a barrier, Mr. Bush persuaded Congress to spend up to $200 million a year to help first-time buyers with down payments and closing costs.

And he pushed to allow first-time buyers to qualify for federally insured mortgages with no money down. Republican Congressional leaders and some housing advocates balked, arguing that homeowners with no stake in their investments would be more prone to walk away, as Mr. West did. Many economic experts, including some in the White House, now share that view.

The president also leaned on mortgage brokers and lenders to devise their own innovations. “Corporate America,” he said, “has a responsibility to work to make America a compassionate place.”

And corporate America, eyeing a lucrative market, delivered in ways Mr. Bush might not have expected, with a proliferation of too-good-to-be-true teaser rates and interest-only loans that were sold to investors in a loosely regulated environment.

“This administration made decisions that allowed the free market to operate as a barroom brawl instead of a prize fight,” said L. William Seidman, who advised Republican presidents and led the savings and loan bailout in the 1990s. “To make the market work well, you have to have a lot of rules.”

But Mr. Bush populated the financial system’s alphabet soup of oversight agencies with people who, like him, wanted fewer rules, not more.

Like Minds on Laissez-Faire

The president’s first chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission promised a “kinder, gentler” agency. The second was pushed out amid industry complaints that he was too aggressive. Under its current leader, the agency failed to police the catastrophic decisions that toppled the investment bank Bear Stearns and contributed to the current crisis, according to a recent inspector general’s report.

As for Mr. Bush’s banking regulators, they once brandished a chain saw over a 9,000-page pile of regulations as they promised to ease burdens on the industry. When states tried to use consumer protection laws to crack down on predatory lending, the comptroller of the currency blocked the effort, asserting that states had no authority over national banks.

The administration won that fight at the Supreme Court. But Roy Cooper, North Carolina’s attorney general, said, “They took 50 sheriffs off the beat at a time when lending was becoming the Wild West.”

The president did push rules aimed at forcing lenders to more clearly explain loan terms. But the White House shelved them in 2004, after industry-friendly members of Congress threatened to block confirmation of his new housing secretary.

In the 2004 election cycle, mortgage bankers and brokers poured nearly $847,000 into Mr. Bush’s re-election campaign, more than triple their contributions in 2000, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. The administration did not finalize the new rules until last month.

Among the Republican Party’s top 10 donors in 2004 was Roland Arnall. He founded Ameriquest, then the nation’s largest lender in the subprime market, which focuses on less creditworthy borrowers. In July 2005, the company agreed to set aside $325 million to settle allegations in 30 states that it had preyed on borrowers with hidden fees and ballooning payments. It was an early signal that deceptive lending practices, which would later set off a wave of foreclosures, were widespread.

Andrew H. Card Jr., Mr. Bush’s former chief of staff, said White House aides discussed Ameriquest’s troubles, though not what they might portend for the economy. Mr. Bush had just nominated Mr. Arnall as his ambassador to the Netherlands, and the White House was primarily concerned with making sure he would be confirmed.

“Maybe I was asleep at the switch,” Mr. Card said in an interview.

Brian Montgomery, the Federal Housing Administration commissioner, understood the significance. His agency insures home loans, traditionally for the same low-income minority borrowers Mr. Bush wanted to help. When he arrived in June 2005, he was shocked to find those customers had been lured away by the “fool’s gold” of subprime loans. The Ameriquest settlement, he said, reinforced his concern that the industry was exploiting borrowers.

In December 2005, Mr. Montgomery drafted a memo and brought it to the White House. “I don’t think this is what the president had in mind here,” he recalled telling Ryan Streeter, then the president’s chief housing policy analyst.

It was an opportunity to address the risky subprime lending practices head on. But that was never seriously discussed. More senior aides, like Karl Rove, Mr. Bush’s chief political strategist, were wary of overly regulating an industry that, Mr. Rove said in an interview, provided “a valuable service to people who could not otherwise get credit.” While he had some concerns about the industry’s practices, he said, “it did provide an opportunity for people, a lot of whom are still in their houses today.”

The White House pursued a narrower plan offered by Mr. Montgomery that would have allowed the F.H.A. to loosen standards so it could lure back subprime borrowers by insuring similar, but safer, loans. It passed the House but died in the Senate, where Republican senators feared that the agency would merely be mimicking the private sector’s risky practices — a view Mr. Rove said he shared.

Looking back at the episode, Mr. Montgomery broke down in tears. While he acknowledged that the bill did not get to the root of the problem, he said he would “go to my grave believing” that at least some homeowners might have been spared foreclosure.

Today, administration officials say it is fair to ask whether Mr. Bush’s ownership push backfired. Mr. Paulson said the administration, like others before it, “over-incented housing.” Mr. Hennessey put it this way: “I would not say too much emphasis on expanding homeownership. I would say not enough early focus on easy lending practices.”

‘We Told You So’

Armando Falcon Jr. was preparing to take on a couple of giants.

A soft-spoken Texan, Mr. Falcon ran the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, a tiny government agency that oversaw Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two pillars of the American housing industry. In February 2003, he was finishing a blockbuster report that warned the pillars could crumble.

Created by Congress, Fannie and Freddie — called G.S.E.’s, for government-sponsored entities — bought trillions of dollars’ worth of mortgages to hold or sell to investors as guaranteed securities. The companies were also Washington powerhouses, stuffing lawmakers’ campaign coffers and hiring bare-knuckled lobbyists.

Mr. Falcon’s report outlined a worst-case situation in which Fannie and Freddie could default on debt, setting off “contagious illiquidity in the market” — in other words, a financial meltdown. He also raised red flags about the companies’ soaring use of derivatives, the complex financial instruments that economic experts now blame for spreading the housing collapse.

Today, the White House cites that report — and its subsequent effort to better regulate Fannie and Freddie — as evidence that it foresaw the crisis and tried to avert it. Bush officials recently wrote up a talking points memo headlined “G.S.E.’s — We Told You So.”

But the back story is more complicated. To begin with, on the day Mr. Falcon issued his report, the White House tried to fire him.

At the time, Fannie and Freddie were allies in the president’s quest to drive up homeownership rates; Franklin D. Raines, then Fannie’s chief executive, has fond memories of visiting Mr. Bush in the Oval Office and flying aboard Air Force One to a housing event. “They loved us,” he said.

So when Mr. Falcon refused to deep-six his report, Mr. Raines took his complaints to top Treasury officials and the White House. “I’m going to do what I need to do to defend my company and my position,” Mr. Raines told Mr. Falcon.

Days later, as Mr. Falcon was in New York preparing to deliver a speech about his findings, his cellphone rang. It was the White House personnel office, he said, telling him he was about to be unemployed.

His warnings were buried in the next day’s news coverage, trumped by the White House announcement that Mr. Bush would replace Mr. Falcon, a Democrat appointed by Bill Clinton, with Mark C. Brickell, a leader in the derivatives industry that Mr. Falcon’s report had flagged.

It was not until 2003, when Freddie became embroiled in an accounting scandal, that the White House took on the companies in earnest. Mr. Bush decided to quit the long-standing practice of rewarding supporters with high-paying appointments to the companies’ boards — “political plums,” in Mr. Rove’s words. He also withdrew Mr. Brickell’s nomination and threw his support behind Mr. Falcon, beginning an intense effort to give his little regulatory agency more power.

Mr. Falcon lacked explicit authority to limit the size of the companies’ mammoth investment portfolios, or tell them how much capital they needed to guard against losses. White House officials wanted that to change. They also wanted the power to put the companies into receivership, hoping that would end what Mr. Card, the former chief of staff, called “the myth of government backing,” which gave the companies a competitive edge because investors assumed the government would not let them fail.

By the spring of 2005 a deal with Congress seemed within reach, Mr. Snow, the former Treasury secretary, said in an interview.

Michael G. Oxley, an Ohio Republican and then-chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, had produced what Mr. Snow viewed as “a pretty darned good bill,” a watered-down version of what the president sought. But at the urging of Mr. Card and the White House economics team, the president decided to hold out for a tougher bill in the Senate.

Mr. Card said he feared that Mr. Snow was “more interested in the deal than the result.” When the bill passed the House, the president issued a statement opposing it, effectively killing any chance of compromise. Mr. Oxley was furious.

“The problem with those guys at the White House, they had all the answers and they didn’t think they had to listen to anyone, including the Treasury secretary,” Mr. Oxley said in a recent interview. “They were driving the ideological train. He was in the caboose, and they were in the engine room.”

Mr. Card and Mr. Hennessey said they had no regrets. They are convinced, Mr. Hennessey said, that the Oxley bill would have produced “the worst of all possible outcomes,” the illusion of reform without the substance.

Still, some former White House and Treasury officials continue to debate whether Mr. Bush’s all-or-nothing approach scuttled a measure that, while imperfect, might have given an aggressive regulator enough power to keep the companies from failing.

Mr. Snow, for one, calls Mr. Oxley “a hero,” adding, “He saw the need to move. It didn’t get done. And it’s too bad, because I think if it had, I think we could well have avoided a big contributor to the current crisis.”

Unheeded Warnings

Jason Thomas had a nagging feeling.

The New Century Financial Corporation, a huge subprime lender whose mortgages were bundled into securities sold around the world, was headed for bankruptcy in March 2007. Mr. Thomas, an economic analyst for President Bush, was responsible for determining whether it was a hint of things to come.

At 29, Mr. Thomas had followed a fast-track career path that took him from a Buffalo meatpacking plant, where he worked as a statistician, to the White House. He was seen as a whiz kid, “a brilliant guy,” his former boss, Mr. Hubbard, says.

As Mr. Thomas began digging into New Century’s failure that spring, he became fixated on a particular statistic, the rent-to-own ratio.

Typically, as home prices increase, rental costs rise proportionally. But Mr. Thomas sent charts to top White House and Treasury officials showing that the monthly cost of owning far outpaced the cost to rent. To Mr. Thomas, it was a sign that housing prices were wildly inflated and bound to plunge, a condition that could set off a foreclosure crisis as conventional and subprime borrowers with little equity found they owed more than their houses were worth.

It was not the Bush team’s first warning. The previous year, Mr. Lindsey, the former chief economics adviser, returned to the White House to tell his old colleagues that housing prices were headed for a crash. But housing values are hard to evaluate, and Mr. Lindsey had a reputation as a market pessimist, said Mr. Hubbard, adding, “I thought, ‘He’s always a bear.’ ”

In retrospect, Mr. Hubbard said, Mr. Lindsey was “absolutely right,” and Mr. Thomas’s charts “should have been a signal.”

Instead, the prevailing view at the White House was that the problems in the housing market were limited to subprime borrowers unable to make their payments as their adjustable mortgages reset to higher rates. That belief was shared by Mr. Bush’s new Treasury secretary, Mr. Paulson.

Mr. Paulson, a former chairman of the Wall Street firm Goldman Sachs, had been given unusual power; he had accepted the job only after the president guaranteed him that Treasury, not the White House, would have the dominant role in shaping economic policy. That shift merely continued an imbalance of power that stifled robust policy debate, several former Bush aides say.

Throughout the spring of 2007, Mr. Paulson declared that “the housing market is at or near the bottom,” with the problem “largely contained.” That position underscored nearly every action the Bush administration took in the ensuing months as it offered one limited response after another.

By that August, the problems had spread beyond New Century. Credit was tightening, amid questions about how heavily banks were invested in securities linked to mortgages. Still, Mr. Bush predicted that the turmoil would resolve itself with a “soft landing.”

The plan Mr. Bush announced on Aug. 31 reflected that belief. Called “F.H.A. Secure,” it aimed to help about 80,000 homeowners refinance their loans. Mr. Montgomery, the housing commissioner, said that he knew the modest program was not enough — the White House later expanded the agency’s rescue role — and that he would be “flying the plane and fixing it at the same time.”

That fall, Representative Rahm Emanuel, a leading Democrat, former investment banker and now the incoming chief of staff to President-elect Barack Obama, warned the White House it was not doing enough. He said he told Joshua B. Bolten, Mr. Bush’s chief of staff, and Mr. Paulson in a series of phone calls that the credit crisis would get “deep and serious” and that the only answer was big, internationally coordinated government intervention.

“You got to strangle this thing and suffocate it,” he recalled saying.

Instead, Mr. Bush developed Hope Now, a voluntary public-private partnership to help struggling homeowners refinance loans. And he worked with Congress to pass a stimulus package that sent taxpayers $150 billion in tax rebates.

In a speech to the Economic Club of New York in March 2008, he cautioned against Washington’s temptation “to say that anything short of a massive government intervention in the housing market amounts to inaction,” adding that government action could make it harder for the markets to recover.

Dominoes Start to Fall

Within days, Bear Sterns collapsed, prompting the Federal Reserve to engineer a hasty sale. Some economic experts, including Timothy F. Geithner, the president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank (and Mr. Obama’s choice for Treasury secretary) feared that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could be the next to fall.

Mr. Bush was still leaning on Congress to revamp the tiny agency that oversaw the two companies, and had acceded to Mr. Paulson’s request for the negotiating room that he had denied Mr. Snow. Still, there was no deal.

Over the previous two years, the White House had effectively set the agency adrift. Mr. Falcon left in 2005 and was replaced by a temporary director, who was in turn replaced by James B. Lockhart, a friend of Mr. Bush from their days at Andover, and a former deputy commissioner of the Social Security Administration who had once run a software company.

On Mr. Lockhart’s watch, both Freddie and Fannie had plunged into the riskiest part of the market, gobbling up more than $400 billion in subprime and other alternative mortgages. With the companies on precarious footing, Mr. Geithner had been advocating that the administration seize them or take other steps to reassure the market that the government would back their debt, according to two people with direct knowledge of his views.

In an Oval Office meeting on March 17, however, Mr. Paulson barely mentioned the idea, according to several people present. He wanted to use the troubled companies to unlock the frozen credit market by allowing Fannie and Freddie to buy more mortgage-backed securities from overburdened banks. To that end, Mr. Lockhart’s office planned to lift restraints on the companies’ huge portfolios — a decision derided by former White House and Treasury officials who had worked so hard to limit them.

But Mr. Paulson told Mr. Bush the companies would shore themselves up later by raising more capital.

“Can they?” Mr. Bush asked.

“We’re hoping so,” the Treasury secretary replied.

That turned out to be incorrect, and did not surprise Mr. Thomas, the Bush economic adviser. Throughout that spring and summer, he warned the White House and Treasury that, in the stark words of one e-mail message, “Freddie Mac is in trouble.” And Mr. Lockhart, he charged, was allowing the company to cover up its insolvency with dubious accounting maneuvers.

But Mr. Lockhart continued to offer reassurances. In a July appearance on CNBC, he declared that the companies were well managed and “worsts were not coming to worst.” An infuriated Mr. Thomas sent a fresh round of e-mail messages accusing Mr. Lockhart of “pimping for the stock prices of the undercapitalized firms he regulates.”

Mr. Lockhart defended himself, insisting in an interview that he was aware of the companies’ vulnerabilities, but did not want to rattle markets.

“A regulator,” he said, “does not air dirty laundry in public.”

Soon afterward, the companies’ stocks lost half their value in a single day, prompting Congress to quickly give Mr. Paulson the power to spend $200 billion to prop them up and to finally pass Mr. Bush’s long-sought reform bill, but it was too late. In September, the government seized control of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

In an interview, Mr. Paulson said the administration had no justification to take over the companies any sooner. But Mr. Falcon disagreed: “They absolutely could have if they had thought there was a real danger.”

By Sept. 18, when Mr. Bush and his team had their fateful meeting in the Roosevelt Room after the failure of Lehman Brothers and the emergency rescue of A.I.G., Mr. Paulson was warning of an economic calamity greater than the Great Depression. Suddenly, historic government intervention seemed the only option. When Mr. Paulson spelled out what would become a $700 billion plan to rescue the nation’s banking system, the president did not hesitate.

“Is that enough?” Mr. Bush asked.

“It’s a lot,” the Treasury secretary recalled replying. “It will make a difference.” And in any event, he told Mr. Bush, “I don’t think we can get more.”

As the meeting wrapped up, a handful of aides retreated to the White House Situation Room to call Vice President Dick Cheney in Florida, where he was attending a fund-raiser. Mr. Cheney had long played a leading role in economic policy, though housing was not a primary interest, and like Mr. Bush he had a deep aversion to government intervention in the market. Nonetheless, he backed the bailout, convinced that too many Americans would suffer if Washington did nothing.

Mr. Bush typically darts out of such meetings quickly. But this time, he lingered, patting people on the back and trying to soothe his downcast staff. “During times of adversity, he bucks everybody up,” Mr. Paulson said.

It was not the end of the failures or government interventions; the administration has since stepped in to rescue Citigroup and, just last week, the Detroit automakers. With 31 days left in office, Mr. Bush says he will leave it to historians to analyze “what went right and what went wrong,” as he put it in a speech last week to the American Enterprise Institute.

Mr. Bush said he was too focused on the present to do much looking back.

“It turns out,” he said, “this isn’t one of the presidencies where you ride off into the sunset, you know, kind of waving goodbye.”

Kitty Bennett contributed reporting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/21admin.html?_r=2

And one reason he will win...... more votes

The American Dream before the Commies took over and now want you to be jealous and envious of anyone who has succeeded. Obama has never wanted for anything. The only reason he went down to the regular people was to get his coke. He went to elite schools all his life. George Bush and his daddy the same. Clinton wasn't born into wealth and has come up and so did Reagan. But certainly not our last two presidents.

Welp = As we all know gwb and chenay were draft-dodgers ------ Oh And RobUs was also a Draft-dodger and the real pathetic thing Is , Is These people are Prospering within our country !!!!!

sixpick, Yeah, everyone is jealous of Willard and wife. Keep using that defense to defend the indefensible out of touch Romney family because it simply is not true, and proves that anyone can be made a fool of by the wealthiest 1% and be conned into defending them.

The presidne's mother lived on public assistance for a time and struggled as a single mom. President Obama was smart enough and raised right to excel and be successful without destroying other people's lives and livlihood to gain his wealeht, which is really nothing compared to Willard's.

That is the best defense: "You're jealous."

ROTFL!

Who would want to be a none person like mitt.....we aren't voting for the rest of the family anyway. I find it un-necessary to be jealous of anyone. If money is the only thing that is important to one you have already lost. Count your own blessings and don't coven others.

Wow, Babina, is that your doctoral dissertation? LOL

I'm glad we're on the same side!

six--the one tenth rule still exists in our constitution, so Elizabeth can claim her Indian heritage, but no biracial person can claim the Anglo-part of them. the Constitution was written in a way to keep the illegitimate Black children of the white slaves owners from considering them as having any relation to the white side of the family. To this day, June 9th 2012, this law still exits. So tell the Black Minister you met, No he can't. legally anyway.

Well the one drop of blood rule said you were not white if you had one drop of blood from a black, so hey sister. Since it is said that all human life started in Africa, I guess we're all the same, which is fine with me, but we're all not Marxist, thank goodness. She still received her job as the first Native Indian since her cheek bones were a little high, no proof, just a way to get the job. Just what we need, another Nancy Pelosi.

http://sophia-angelique.hubpages.com/hub/Why-Obama-will-win-2012

10 More Reasons Why Obama Will Win In 2012 !

By Sophia Angelique Jan 2012:

So you think the GOP stand a chance? Forget it! You might not agree with Obama’s politics but, at least, he’s reasonably sane. Right now, we have GOP contenders that should all be locked up in the looney bin. In any event, here are ten reasons why Obama is going to win the 2012 election.

1. There isn’t anyone else in the running who is rational. Newt Gingrich wants to return us to Charles Dickens times when five year old kiddies worked. Ron Paul thinks that the State shouldn’t provide free health care despite the fact that his former campaign manager, Kent Snyder, died because he couldn’t afford medical care for pneumonia. Worse, Ron Paul is a qualified medical doctor. Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Mormons wear special underwear day and night to provide themselves with protection against bad things happening to them and to help with resistance against temptation. Personally, I have issues with a president who has to wear magical clothing to sort out US problems. Rick Santorum wants to return the world to biblical times so that women can serve men and men can serve themselves.

Romney: Official Opposition
April 2012: Now with Romney being the official opposition, the Republicans have lost the race for sure. There majority of people see Romney as out of touch with the reality. He made money out of taking jobs away from people. He seems unable to grasp that while business may be run for profit, government is by the people for the people. Profit is not the motive of government.

The motive of government is that the infrastructure supports the people in such a way that they are able to conduct their lives in a relatively stress free way. This includes providing services that are commonly used by all people - paid for by taxes - that includes solid and equal education for all people, equality before the law, public transport that allows all people to get to work without taking two hours to travel three miles, etc. Tax is NOT supposed to be used to fight wars, feed people in other countries before every citizen in the USA is fed, and buy enormous cars to inflate the egos of senators, congressmen, and other government dignitaries.

While Romney is fighting for people to pay less taxes, what he misses is that the majority of people in the USA pay very little in taxes. The problem is not what they pay in taxes; the problem is that what they are paid by commerce does not cover the cost of rent, nutritious food (which is very, very expensive), medicine, and other basic essentials. Most people are fighting for the latter and are unconcerned about the former. This seems to have completely passed Romney (and the GOP in general) by.

2. Obama has a beautiful woman for a wife, two cute kids, and a dog. The dog lives in the presidential office, and when nobody is looking, the dog advises the president. Dogs, as we all know, are man's best friend. As the 99% are sorely in need of friends in Washington, Obama's dog is considered the safest bet.

G'night Rach ---- yep the sandman is knockin' - hey !!!!

Rachel- could you give a cite to the "1/10th" provision of the Constitution- there was a provision dealing with the counting of non free people in terms of number of house seats etc- but do not recall any and 1/10th provision-

ST54-----This law was established during the time period of 1918-1934 .Interracial marriage, and dating had began to happen, or so they say,. Due to the fact, that, So many Slave owners had raped the Women who were their slaves, a lot of these children were born with white skin. The only thing that a Slave Owner had to rely on to prove whether a person was White, or Black, was to feel of their skin. They went on the theory, that if the Men, or Women, skin felt soft, they were of the White race, and if it felt rough, they were assumed to be Black. Well they theory did not hold up in court, when they tried to imprison some people for marring. At this point, they started to have problems with a child who had a white daddy, marring another slave that had a white dad, Some of these slaves would try and escape Slavery, by implying that they were White. Which a lot of them were, because a lot of White Men, and Women portrayed themselves to be black, in order to marry a person of the Black race. This had became almost impossible to win in a court room because, these children started to lose their African distinction. There are a lot of interesting factors pertaining to this ruling becoming into law. So, please go to the Wilkipedia Encyclopedia, and look up The Battle over Who's a Negro; Law and History. It will explain why the one drop rule was adopted into our Constitution.

check home page for more info.

What a mess on this last page huh Kathe ?

It's been messed up since page 5. Two loonies and the place goes to hell. About the only really serious posts were when xxx stopped by. Loved your urban dictionary stuff though. LOL! Was glad to see TM show up when she did. She always manages to arrive at the right time.

Stupidit was the poster child for narcissism. Thought every response was to her. Well, most of mine were. LOL!! What a day on the blog.

But we have done very well in posting really informative, humorous, fighting words !!

That's what the weekends are for on here....humor. I used to get really uptight when posts went off topic in a thread. Decided to roll with it or start a different thread. I'm happier now. Can't take the stress at times and it's not about the election. It's already been decided. It's the plans for the next 1 to 10 years that concerns me.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spineless+

The Urban Dictionary

Spineless :

A spineless loser is someone that feeds off of other people. They are selfish and manipulative. They do not have a conscience of their own so they play on others consciences to get what they want.

Hope your up late!

Fargo ND $3.27 US gal Unleaded still dropping....

Thank God Obama has done something about high gas prices...If this keeps up he'll be a shoe-in in November huh!

I can say this because the voters in Wisconsin are so well informed!

It was 94 degrees in Fargo today! Boy is the South gonna bake this summer.

The Time is Now - Age of Aquarius:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq_A31ggVKQ

Hey xxxooo ! I slept 15 hours yesterday so I am not sleepy today !

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=inuendo

The Urban Dictionary

Inuendo :

Noun.
A clever way to say what you mean, but not necessarily mean what you say because of underling hidden intent that must be inferred to be understood.

Saying something deragatory but possibly not meaning it.

A redneck word created by Jeff Foxworthy. Refers to "in your window".
"Hey man I just saw a bird fly inuendo."

I got a virus I opened the window and influenza!

must be looking in the bathroom mirror again, very good to look at one's self and recognize inadequacy..

Illusion of Grandeur

An Illusion is the state of being deceived. Grandeur is the quality of being impressive or awesome. Therefore, someone who has Illusions of grandeur is deceiving themselves into thinking they are impressive or awesome in some way. In reality, no one else sees them in this way.
Ann Weiss thought she knew what she was talking about - like she was some authority on English or something - but in reality, she was having illusions of grandeur.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Illusions%20of%20Grandeur

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=delusions+of+grandeur

The Urban Dictionary

Delusions of grandeur :

1. a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are

2. what occurs when you have feelings for someone that are so extreme, and you describe them, but the other person doesn't feel the same way... at all.

Pot Calling The Kettle Black :

This is a phrase that states that the person you are talking to is calling you something that they themselves are (and generally in abundance).

This comes from old times when pots and pans were generally black and kettles were generally metallic and reflective. Therefore the pot sees its black reflection in the kettle and thinks that the kettle is black.

Not me I'm having a mirage of greatness because it was so HOT!

I guess in a short while 94 will be considered warm in Teaxas...

LOL. Some people take themselves WAY too seriously when they are posting here such as ohhhhhhhhhh maybe Sies. All comment. No courage.

If Obama wanted to rid the world of republicans all he needs to do is keep moving to the right!

http://politicalroast.blogspot.com/2009/08/funny-political-jokes-things.html

Things Republicans Believe

Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

Please don't tell me you're part of the flat earth society too!

Hey they just might die of fright!

They want a FLAT EARTH TAX!

Oh no!

Have Dinner With Barack Obama !

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/o2012-om-dinner-with-barack-june?source=om_signup&action_code=FgxRWxYUOVIKQV0YB1UHVk4J&td=RVLBatwwEP0VoVMLsVey1961cymlJFBIc2hhD90iZGu8FpElI8nZkJB_78i7JODLvJk3782T3yhMUhva0jiChyDDKCdpn6RpqvLbKfXy3k30hr7qGaf2DS8brDwo7aGPYvGJjIgQnTTGxWvl5iietaKtXYy5ocEtvgfsualgvBCmE1MQSoc5QoiCbXmhzl0W9Mkucya1L0TJ2EtRMVwWlu6DH3QEVPKyf3IdWsUd1oLPzjqO2QXPJun7cd3lLNLn0Vn4MBIdeheDNhBo-_cfIqumGJyfRDJMa7bdIW3ya8X3xaCGXtYJMheIQc-g6xDpPUg0pNLZ6bCMVRnfEd60nLVV_TmhZyGV8ji2YznfN3lR8Lzcfg4sAbyQJ7Bp1YN71cbI46bKGfly0Fa5cyC__pA657fk8Hiot7fEP7e8yNlXcg8YxnGD-gw_Tu7waQb3ctykdlIYJcbsL9dxBNKtVk5wNY3pl-THmiNJOZLva47k52KhJY8P5Pds8MdIATi1GLhSL8HR9_8

How to improve Self Esteem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thcxFS3waz4&feature=related

http://politicalroast.blogspot.com/2009/08/funny-political-jokes-things.html

Things Republicans Believe

A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.

Looks like the Obamacare link. I sent a note back saying he has already taken all my money he's gonna get from me. LOL.

Ed Klein on 'The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_kKWGVvCPw

Akon - Lonely:

Repetitions is a sign of loneliness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EEW-9NDM5k

http://www.urbandictionary.com
/define.php?term=troll

The Urban DIctionary

Troll :

One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.

Sean kingston - Fire Burning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkyhvCdJ_vM

Looking in the bathroom mirror again I see!!!!!

Hi CM kathe

just sitin here thinking of Democrats

http://youtu.be/Y_YuOj-Y_ik

Hi TC! ROFL! The puppies got me up early. And well you know....pissin' in the wind.

Hi TC, went to sleep rather late this morning but otherwise doing fine, hope all is well with you, I am still working at the project we had talked about, hoping the economy turns around really soon, we haven't seen Chris2142986 since 2011, I think he must be really busy and forgotten about us, hope he is doing well, talk with you at another time...cm

Hi TC, How are you feeling these days? I have wondered how you are.

cm:

That Chris got banned quite some time ago....ran out of chances. He also came back as a re-reg once.

Hi India,six,Kathy

I have been consulting on a resort project so No more Vine fund until the job ends. have you guys heard about the party cove where i live . i was there yesterday. the first two videos are for six. No recession here. third for India forth for kathe

http://www.realestateozarks.com/partycove.htm

http://youtu.be/qeWVn1EsgZQ

http://youtu.be/uSdMKJqnnW4

http://youtu.be/DLnRrTOZCAw

Hi Kathe, hope all is well, I am not sure you are speaking of the same Chris2142986, I don't see anyplace where he has been banned, as far as i know, he had been real busy with his businesses, looked on the vine and couldn't anything thanks....

TC, Oh, I love that one....and this is my beloved...... Oh yeah, thanks TC, grrrreat choice. I haven't heard that one for a while.

Hey cm....big oooops....pasted the name wrong. Chris2...is still here. The other Chris3...was the one that in trouble.

Hope your business is going well....it's always great news when a new entrepreneur makes it. <s>

http://politicalroast.blogspot.com/2009/08/funny-political-jokes-things.html

Things Republicans Believe

A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.

Sad but true Hope!

I see that the Tea party has got them thinking the best way to take care of SSI ect is let people die that way they won't be able to collect.

By eliminating birth control they will have plenty of cheap labor. And troops...to fight the DEVIL!

They aren't eliminating birth control. Big Nanny wants people to grow up to be Liberals. The Tea Party wants people to grow up to be adults and take responsibility of themselves. Free birth control is readily available.

Rick Perry?

LOL XXXOOO !

Hi six

time for sanity

http://youtu.be/j1IoLMqpRY4

DAC is great but, he needs a little help on his moanin' the blues. <s>

http://www.freep.com/article/20120610/NEWS07/206100555/Lawyer-Ex-governor-tried-to-hide-being-gay

Headlines

CRIST: 'DELUSIONAL LIES'

A lawyer for the former chairman of the Florida Republican Party has alleged that former Gov. Charlie Crist paid two men to leave the state to hide his homosexuality.

The allegations, detailed in a Florida Department of Law Enforcement report, were made by former state party Chairman Jim Greer, who is facing criminal charges for allegedly paying himself to raise money for the Florida GOP.

Crist called the statements "a bunch of delusional lies" aimed at pressuring him to change his testimony in the fund-raising case against Greer.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/01/17/438438/-GOP-List-of-Corruption-Update-Primary-Edition

GOP List of ( Family Values ) Corruption Update: Primary Edition

Under Investigation

Ted Stevens (Republican Senator, AK): Under Investigation. Under Federal Investigation for bribery and illegal gratuities and/or unreported gifts from from VECO Corp., Alaska's largest oil-field engineering firm.

Don Young (Republican Representative, AK): Under Investigation. Under Federal Investigation for bribery and illegal gratuities and/or unreported gifts from from VECO Corp., Alaska's largest oil-field engineering firm.

Jim Gibbons (Republican Governor, NV): Under investigation. Under Federal investigation for influence peddling for recieving gifts in exchange for federal government contracts.

Rick Renzi (Republican Representative, AZ): Under investigation. Under Federal investigation for involvement in land swap deal. After the investigation of Renzi was initiated by Paul Charlton, the US Attorney for Arizona, Charlton was added to the list of attorney's to be dismissed in what would become the justice department's US attorney's controversy. Previous to the investigation Charton had been on the "retain" list.

John Doolittle (Republican Representative, CA): Under investigation. Under Federal investigation for possible illegal activities in connection with Lobbyist Jack Abramoff and illegal compensation of his wife Julie Doolittle. The investigation is directed at the activities of Sierra Dominion Financial Solutions Inc., a fund-raising company run by Mrs.Doolittle (see below).

Julie Doolittle (Republican Consultant): Under investigation. Under Federal investigation for possible unlawful compensation and possible illegal activities connected with convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Mrs. Doolittle's firm, Dominion Financial Solutions Inc., in which Mrs. Doolittle is the only employee, recieved compensation and commissions in return for event planning for Abramoff, book-keeping services for lobbying firm connected to Abramoff and over $180,000 in commissions since late 2001.

Curt Weldon (Republican Representative, Pennsylvania): Under Investigation. Ongoing investigation into influence peddling and unlawful ties to two Russian companies.

Mark Foley (Republican Representative from Florida): Under Investigation. Resigned amid evidence that he had engaged in sexually explicit electronic communications with former and current congressional pages.

Ben Stevens (Republican State Senate President, Alaska): Under Investigation. FBI investigating possible illegal "consulting" fees paid to Stevens from the oil and fisheries industries. The fisheries industry has recieved numerous substantial Federal "grants" from the Alaska Fisheries Marketing Board of which Ben Stevens was the board's first chairman and was curiously set up by Ben's father, Alaskan Senator, Ted aka "the Bridge" Stevens.

Ralph Reed (Fundiecon, first executive director of the Christian Coalition): Under Investigation. Being probed in Jack Abramoff scandal. Target of Republican criticism arising from alleged profiteering from his position as a Conservative Christian leader. Numerous other shady dealings and accusations of overbilling. Resigned from the Christian coalition after federal prosecutors began investigating allegations by the Christian Coalition's chief financial officer, Judy Liebert. Under his leadership the Christian Coalition was found in violation of federal campaign finance laws during congressional elections in 1990, 1992 and 1994, and the presidential election in 1992.

Kenneth Tomlinson (Republican Chairman of the Broadcasting Board of Governors, former Chairman, Corporation for Public Broadcasting): Under Investigation. Under Investigation for misuse of Federal money. A state department investigation revealed that Tomlinson had ran a horse racing operation out of his office, overbilled the government, used employees for personal errands, and "improperly" put a friend on the payroll. PBS investigators said "that they had uncovered evidence that its former chairman had repeatedly broken federal law and the organization's own regulations in a campaign to combat what he saw as liberal bias." The investigation led to his resignation from PBS in November 2005.

Jerry Lewis (Republican Representative, California): Under Investigation. Under Investigation for influence peddling, earmarking Federal Funds and possible conflict of interest. Lewis is Chairman of the House Appropriations Committee and was currently named one of the most corrupt members of Congress by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/01/17/438438/-GOP-List-of-Corruption-Update-Primary-Edition

GOP List of ( Family Values ) Corruption Update: Primary Edition

Indicted

Mark Deli Siljander (Republican, Former Representative, Michigan, President Reagan alternate representative appointee to the United Nations General Assembly): Indicted. The 42-count indictment includes charges of money laundering, conspiracy and obstructing justice for allegedly lying to investigators about lobbying efforts on behalf of the Islamic American Relief Agency which allegedly has funneled funds to declared terrorists.

Michael S. Carona (Republican, Sheriff, Orange County, CA, Resigned): Indicted. Grand jury 10-count indictment include bribery, tax evasion, conspiracy and witness-tampering and faces a maximum sentence of up to 20 years.

Glenn Murphy Jr. (Young Republican National Chairman, Clark County GOP Chairman, Indiana): Indicted. Resigned from all GOP positions during investigation for criminal deviate conduct, a Class B felony. According to the report Murphy performed oral sex on another sleeping man without his consent during a party for Young Republicans. Murphy was also investigated in 1998 for sexual battery for apparently committing the same act. Murphy was charged with a class B felony, criminal deviate conduct and faces between six and 20 years if convicted.

Ozwald Balfour (Republican, Founder, Utah Republican Black Assembly): Indicted. Charged with three felony counts forcible sexual abuse and one felony count of attempted forcible sexual abuse after allegedly groping four women.

Robert Lichfield (Republican fundraiser for Mitt Romney): Indicted. Named along with 140 other defendents, the Federal lawsuit alleges that students at schools operated by the Worldwide Association of Specialty Schools, were subjected to "physical abuse, emotional abuse and sexual abuse."

Alan B. Fabian (Republican fundraiser for Mitt Romney and Bush Ranger): Indicted. Indicted by a grand jury on 23-counts of mail fraud, money laundering, bankruptcy fraud, perjury and obstruction of justice. According to prosecutors, Fabian made $32 million in false purchases of computer equipment, but actually spent the money on real estate and private jet use.

Robert Regola (Republican State Senator, PA): Indicted. Indicted on three counts of perjury, allowing possession of a firearm by a minor, recklessly endangering another person and false swearing in the suicide death of a teenage neighbor in which his weapon was used.

Bruce Weyhrauch (Former Republican state representative, Alaska): Indicted. Weyhrauch faces four counts of extortion, bribery and wire or mail fraud. Weyhrauch faces charges of helping to pass legislation in exchange for future legal work contracts from the oil engineering firm VECO.

Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali Alishtari (aka Michael Mixon) (Republican businessman, GOP Donor, White House Advisor, activist): Indicted. Attempted to send over 150 thousand dollars to the Middle East to purchase equipment for terrorist training camps in Afghanistan. Also facing charges of money laundering.

Kyle "Dusty" Foggo (Republican Former CIA official): Indicted . 11 counts of fraud, conspiracy and money laundering. Connected to bribery of convicted Congressman Duke Cunningham. (See below)

Tom aka "The Hammer" DeLay (GOP House Majority Leader): Indicted. Resigned. Indicted on multiple charges money laundering and conspiracy. Implicated with Abramoff.

John Colyandro (Executive Director of the political action committee Texans for a Republican Majority): Indicted. Charged along with Tom Delay and Jim Ellis in numerous conspiracy, money laundering and illegal campaign finance activities.

Jim Ellis (Executive Director, Americans for a Republican Majority): Indicted. Charged with Delay and Colyandro in "scheme to use corporate political donations illegally to support candidates in state elections."

Warren RoBold (DeLay fundraiser): Indicted. Charged with nine different felonies in Delay money laundering campaign contribution scheme.

Ernie Fletcher(Kentucky Republican Governor, Evolution hater): Indicted. Cronyism. Due to the likelihood of Fletcher's executive immunity as governor and the likelihood of pardoning himself upon leaving office a plea bargain was reached where "The governor acknowledges that the evidence strongly indicates wrongdoing by his administration with regard to personnel actions within the merit system. Further, the governor hereby states that these actions were inappropriate and that he regrets their occurrence and accepts responsibility for them as head of the executive branch of state government."

James Tobin (President George W. Bush's New England campaign chairman): Retrial. Convicted on telephone harassment charges "for his part in a plot to jam the Democrats' phones on Election Day 2002." Update: 6/07/07. Conviction overturned on appeal. Prosecutors were reviewing the decision, and did not say if they planned to appeal.

Lawrence Novak (Vice-Chairman of the Massachusetts Republican Party) Indicted. Charged with laundering money from a client facing drug charges.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/01/17/438438/-GOP-List-of-Corruption-Update-Primary-Edition

GOP List of ( Family Values ) Corruption Update: Primary Edition

Guilty

Pete Kott (Former Republican state representative, Alaska): Guilty. Found Guilty on three counts of extortion, bribery and mail fraud for receiving money in exchange for his support of a pipeline and a tax proposal that favored the oil engineering firm VECO.

Victor Kohring (Former Republican state representative, Alaska): Guilty. Kohring was found guilty conspiracy, bribery, and attempted extortion for accepting bribes from oil company VECO Corporation in exchange for services rendered in the company's behalf in the Alaska State Legislature.

John E. Sweeney (Republican, Former Representative, New York): Guilty. Pled guily to aggravated DWI. Arresting officer witnessed Sweeny's vehicle swerving erratically with a young woman partially sitting on his lap. Sweeney's blood alcohol level was .18, over twice the legal limit.

Bob Allen (Republican state representative and co-chairman of John McCain's presidential campaign, Florida, Resigned): Guilty. Found guilty of solicitation to commit prostitution after being arrested at a public restroom, offering cash to perform oral sex on a male undercover police officer. Sentenced to six months probation, fine, court costs, mandatory STD testing and education and to stay away from the park where he was arrested.

Thomas Ravenel (former Republican State Treasurer and Rudolph Giuliani State Chairman, South Carolina): Guilty. Plead guilty to "conspiring to buy and distribute less than 100 grams of cocaine". Faces sentence of up to fifty years in prison.

Jeffrey Ray Nielsen (Republican, Former Aide to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Huntington Beach, Republican Activist): Guilty. Pled guilty to molesting two teenage boys in order to avoid second trial and a maximum 11 year sentence. Nielsen faces 3 years in prison.

Ted Klaudt (Republican, Former State Representative, State Senate Candidate, South Dakota): Guilty. Found guilty on four counts of second-degree rape. Klaudt used the pretext of his underage foster daughters selling fertile eggs to perform fake "medical exams". Klaudt faces a maximum sentence up to 100 years (25 years for each count).

Brent Wilkes (Republican businessman, Defence Contractor): Guilty. Found guilty on all 13 counts of conspiracy, bribery, money laundering and bribes involving convicted Congressman Duke Cunningham in return for government contracts. Still awaiting second trial on multiple counts of bribery involving former CIA executive director Dusty Foggo.

Larry Craig (Republican Senator, ID, Resigned as U.S. Senate co-chair of the Mitt Romney for president campaign): Guilty. Arrested in June 2007 on suspicion of propositioning police officer at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. Pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct. Craig payed a fine, was given one year of probation and a 10 day jail sentence which was stayed. Craig now denies wrongdoing.

Michael Flory (former head of the Michigan Federation of Young Republicans): Guilty. Pled guilty to sexual battery in a plea bargain while on trial for overpowering and repeatedly raping a young woman in a hotel room during a national Young Republican convention in Cleveland in the summer of 2006. Sentenced to five years in prison.

Italia Federici (President, Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy): Guilty. Pled guilty in Federal investigation for tax evasion and obstructing a Senate investigation in exchange for cooperating in continuing Congressional and Bush Administration corruption investigation involving former convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

J. Steven Griles (former Deputy Secretary for the U.S. Department of Interior, Coal Lobbyist): Guilty. Plead guilty to felony obstruction of justice for making false statements in relation to Abramoff lobbying scandal.

Tom Anderson (former Republican state representative, Alaska): Guilty. Found guilty on all charges. Sentencing scheduled in October 2007. Anderson faces a maximum penalty of 20 years and $250,000 for extortion, 20 years and $500,000 on each count of money laundering, 10 years and $250,000 on the bribery count and five years and a $250,000 fine for conspiracy.

Bernard Kerik (NYPD Commissioner, Bush homeland security chief nominee, formerly the Interim Minister of Interior of Iraq): Guilty. Pled guilty to two ethics violations accepting $165,000 in renovations to his Bronx apartment from a contractor with suspected mob ties and an illegal loan. Under investigation for tax fraud, conspiracy to eavesdrop and mortgage fraud.

Lewis aka "Scooter" Libby (V-P Chief of Staff): Guilty. Resigned. Found Guilty on four charges of obstruction of justice, 2 counts of perjury, and one count of lying to federal investigators in Plame leak investigation. Sentenced to 30 months in prison. Sentence commuted by Presidential order.

Gary Miller (Republican Representative, California): Guilty. Ongoing investigation by FBI and IRS for tax evasion on earmarked investment property.

Lester M. Crawford (FDA Commissioner): Guilty. Resigned after two months as FDA Chief in Fall 2005, pled guilty in October 2006 to charges he hid ownership in food and drug companies that his agency regulated.

Jack Abramoff (Lobbyist): Guilty. Pled Guilty to multiple felony conspiracy, bribery, tax evasion and fraud counts. Currently testifying in gang-style murder of SunCruz Casinos owner Konstantinos Boulis.

David Safavian (Employee of the Office of Management and Budget): Guilty. Four felony counts of lying and obstruction in Abramoff lobbying and corruption scandal.

Tony Rudy (Lobbyist, DeLay staffer): Guilty. Unindicted co-conspirator "Staffer A" in DeLay scandal. Pled guilty to one charge of conspiracy and agreed to cooperate with investigators.

Michael Scanlon (Former DeLay Communications Director, Lobbyist): Guilty. Pled guilty to conspiring to bribe a member of Congress and other public officials.

Bob Ney (Republican Representative, Ohio): Guilty. Pled guilty to conspiracy and making false statements in relation to the Abramoff scandal. Sentenced to 30 months in prison, a $6,000 fine and 200 hours of community service.

Neil Volz (Chief of Staff to Representative Bob Ney): Guilty. Pleded guilty to one count of conspiracy, including wire fraud and violating House rules.

Tom Noe (Republican (Bush/Cheney) Fundraiser, Activist): Guilty. Found guilty of money laundering and under indictment for a plethora of felonies in the Ohio "Coingate" scandal.

Randall aka "Randy" or "Duke" Cunningham (Republican Congressman): Guilty. Pled Guilty to bribery, conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud, and tax evasion. Currently serving eight year sentence.

Mitchell Wade (Defence Contractor, President MZM, Inc.,): Guilty. Paid over $1 million in bribes to "Duke" Cunningham in exchange for millions more in government contracts.

Claude Allen (Presidential Domestic Policy Advisor, Fundiecon): Guilty. Pled guilty in felony theft scheme of returning shoplifted goods for refund.

Bob Taft (Ohio Republican Governor): Guilty. Pled "No Contest" to four criminal misdemeanors for undisclosed gifts.

Shaun Hansen (Republican Activist): Guilty. Former co-owner of Idaho-based telemarketing firm Mylo Enterprises. Charged for conspiring to commit, and aiding and abetting the commission of, interstate telephone harassment relating to a scheme to jam several New Hampshire telephone lines on Election Day, 2002.

Charles McGee (former Executive Director of the New Hampshire Republican State Committee): Guilty. Plead Guilty to conspiracy to commit telephone harassment in New Hampshire phone scam. Sentenced to 7 months.

Allen Raymond (President, GOP Marketplace): Guilty. Hired by McGee to jam Democratic phone lines in New Hampshire phone scam. Served 4 Months. Served and released.

George Ryan (Former Republican Governor of Illinois):Guilty. 16 federal public corruption convictions of racketeering and bribery.

John Roland (Republican governor, Connecticut): Guilty. Pled guilty to corruption charges. Served sentence and released.

Adam Taff (Republican Congressional Candidate): Guilty. Pled guilty to one count of wire fraud and one count of violating federal campaign law in charges stemming from his use of campaign funds to put a down payment on a 1.2 million dollar home.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/01/17/438438/-GOP-List-of-Corruption-Update-Primary-Edition

GOP List of ( Family Values ) Corruption Update: Primary Edition

Dishonorable Mentions

Richard Curtis (Republican State Representative, La Center, Washington) Resigned.. Resigned after denying and then admitting having paid for sex with 26-year-old male waiter. Curtis, opposed a 2006 gay rights discrimination bill and a 2007 domestic partnership bill.

Ken Calvert (Republican Representative, California) Should be under investigation. Earmarked Federal funds for personal gain by buying and selling land that benefited from multiple freeways and commerical development pushed through by his position as a Representative. Ties with consulting firm of Copeland, Lowery that is currently under investigation in the Jerry Lewis scandal above.
Also. Arrested in 1993 for Soliciting a prostitute.

Don Sherwood (Former Republican Representative, Pennsylvania): Civil Suit Settlement. Settled in civil suit with former mistress accusing Sherwood of repeatedly assaulting her during their 5-year extramarital relationship. The mistress, Cynthia Ore, called police in September 2004, after locking herself in the bathroom, and accused Sherwood of choking her. No charges were filed because "Both parties have left out significant information or are not willing to discuss in detail what actually happened".

Rush Limbaugh (Conservative Radio Talk Show Host): Plea Bargain. Charged with "doctor shopping" to obtain prescription pain medication. Limbaugh surrendered to authorities after a warrant was issued for his arrest. Prosecutors agreed to drop the charge if Limbaugh paid $30,000 to help offset investigation costs, complete a drug addiction treatment with his physician and submit to random drug testing.

Bill O'Reilly (Conservative Fox News Talk Show Host): Civil Suit Settlement. Settled a civil suit for sexual harrassment. Former O'Reilly factor producer Mackris filed a sexual harassment suit, complaining that O'Reilly had made numerous references to "phone sex, vibrators, threesomes, masturbation, the loss of his virginity, and other sexual fantasies".

I must be getting too tired, Hope. It's a family "values" list but, I didn't catch Joe Walsh's name. Good night. <s>

I'm just waiting for the storm to hit and get the cat in...I hope there be no hail...Night Kathe.

Water becoming a toxic soup check your area!!!

http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/amall/incidents_where_hydraulic_frac.html

Video N.D. You could be NEXT!

http://youtu.be/6N8-dXMLjNg

North Dakota: In a recent news report, state officials in North Dakota have said that they are "understaffed and overwhelmed" and "struggling to provide adequate oversight amid an explosion of activity in North Dakota's oil patch." According to this report, "Hundreds of oilfield spills and thousands of waste disposal sites are being untended or are infrequently monitored because of a lack of personnel and funding." Said the Director of the state's Department of Mineral Resources: "It's a fire drill every day." Wow, I can't add any commentary to make that more powerful. The article is scary. Last fall there was a blow-out during a hydraulic fracturing job in North Dakota and it was estimated that over 60,000 gallons of hydraulic fracturing fluid, plus 7,000 gallons of oil, were blown out of the well into the environment.

Bakken flaring seen from space! Really cool....I MEAN HOT!

http://www.midwestenergynews.com/2011/11/14/the-bakken-north-dakota-oil-field-from-space/

LOGOUT: Lifes a gas/T.Rex

Snap cackle and pop!

http://youtu.be/KjZ2VtSAbmo