Poll: Will Republican obstruction on jobs cost the president re-election?
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Fri Jun 1, 2012 7:48 PM EDT
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NO But they are only intrested in one job!
I don't think it will. Most RATIONAL people know that the economy would likely be more active if Boehner and McConnell (Orange Man and Droopy Dawg) had not spent the last 2 years doing everything in their power to undercut the president at every turn.
NO. The American public is too educated about the lies that the Republicans tell about jobs. We have Google, Ed Schultz, Rachel Maddow and everyone else on MSNBC.
Republican Lies About Jobs :
http://bluemassgroup.com/2012/01/gop-lies-about-jobs/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4islJUe4ZWw
http://lezgetreal.com/2012/01/the-republican-lies-about-federal-pay-and-benefits/
I agree with all of you they have not created one job, but they have done anything possible to take away Obama's job. I hope to heavens people are awake and not asleep at the wheel and let them take us over the cliff. Romney will come with lies and smile and after hes in they will take a chain saw and cut everything. The old saying it it sounds to good to be true it usually isn't sure sums it up for Romney !
NO = We Americans that have eyeballs can See that THEY are doing everything that THEY can to stall and hold Back America And Our PRESIDENT - We Are NOT Fools !!! We Can SEE Rite Thru THEM and Their Tactics = THEY Do Not Have a Wool Blanket Large enuff to Pull Over the Entire Real American Peoples Eyes !!!
NO !!! The truth is ...the bottom line. God is alive and sees what they are doing, hears what comes out of their mouths and HIS will....will be done. A lie will never rule over the truth ....
and liars and obstructionists ........God help you.
I would really like to see Obama get out there with all guns blazing, loaded for bear, and MAKE his case! Call these economic terrorists out for what they are! If he does not soon fight and fight hard to show the GOP up, he really could lose, and that would be the end of our Democracy.
There is no lie too big for Romney to keep repeating to the American people. Some of it has stuck. More will stick. Obama cannot afford to be the nice, intellectual scholarly type right now. He must win this election!
God forbid if they win.
They will try to hurt Obama, but people are not that stupid. They will see all the tricks that republicans are playing. This the way I have seen them doing for the last 50 years. The worse job report the happier Republican get. In this tactics people are suffering, but the(Right wingers) don't care abouit people any way. They are not really for Willard, but against Obama. That has been their main objective from the day one. Shame on them!
Wish I could be as optimistic as all of you. I know too many people who buy into all the lies from Romney and the others! I am still betting on the "good over evil".
INDIA - If we lose our VOTING rights,that's when I will vote with a gun (instead of pulling the lever,I wil be pulling the trigger).They better hope that they don't win this election or they will have to be looking over their shoulder every step of the way.
I agree Americans are to smart to follow the Republicans like lemmings off the cliff to drown, and the ones that aren't need to fact check everything every Republican says the vote Democrat across the board!
Bzzzz- the answer to the poll is No.
The thing that will cause Obama to lose, if he should, will be his absolute ineptness on the economy. Just yesterday, someone on another blog item of Ed's explained the number of jobs created by Obama, and the almost $800B stimulus. It was over $300,000 per job created. It's that quality of leadership that make older Americans scratch their head. It's also what just might make younger Americans, those supporting Obama last time, scratch their heads as well.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring and so wrong.
What more can they do every bill they write has a rider to let people work, and reid kills them all. Tell me how they can make obama stop killing jobs and I'll get the word to those worthless scum that are my reps.
Rusty, you forget, the stimulus went over budget, it is closer to $950B now, so the jobs cost is even worse.
Hope: Please name one job the house has killed? Reid won't pass anything.
Hope- what is wrong? My answer or analysis? If it was my answer, I'll accept that as a difference of opinion, and suggest back that you are wrong. If it was the analysis, then let's see yours. Otherwise, I guess I'll just have to chalk you up as theatrical but meaningless.
Slacker:
Name on *actual* jobs bill that's sitting in the Senate. Deregualtion and tax credits extended to the corporate welfare receipients too does not a jobs bill make.
Quit with the earmarks already. Clean bills. Jobs bills. Enough with the "social issues".
Record number of fillibusters. Tea party tantrums. "We will cooperate" = giving the finger. Fun and games for those not on the receiving end of getting screwed. This Country can't wait for the tea partiers to quit partying, but will be forced to for a time.
Pay back is a mother....ain't it? Go Reid !!
Kathe- I appreciate the fact that you admit the political theater is a game being played by both sides. We all know it intuitively, defend our own side and blame the other side, yet it is refreshing to have someone actually come out and say that the side they are on is acting in childish retribution.
Kathe/Tacoma: The keystone pipeline they keep trying to get through so people can go to work building it. reid and obama keep killing it.
Or is that somehow not jobs because the taxpayer won't be paying for it?
Slack- that set of jobs would seemingly be "shovel ready", which is something Obama no longer believes exist.
slack:
What you don't know about Keystone XL should be an embarrassment for you. The facts have been discussed enough around here and I'm not going to waste my time on that with someone like you. Move along.
Rusty:
"that set of jobs" is peanuts compared to the number of permanent jobs that are going to be lost forever....this is not the desired outcome of creative destruction....it's just desruction of jobs and mush more. Don't think Keystone isn't going to happen...it will and to the detriment of the *many* peons for the benefit of a few.
And yes, anymore I'm cynical about both sides....too many lobbyists have their ears. I can at least admit it unlike some of your boooeeeeys. I'll tell you that I'm not cynical about the members of the tp movement though....it's just a fact that they are in waaaaaay over their heads and need to leave. Don't have a clue what government is and how it can function successfully. Later, bud.
They have the path re-routed around the area of concern in Nebraska. Work is progressing on both the North end and the South end. Once the election is over, if Obama wins, the approval will be quietly granted for the rest of the route.
The Keystone pipeline will bring oil from Canada through America to a port in Texas, onto ships, and out to sea to be sold to Europe and Latin America. Not one drop will go to America.
As far as the jobs building it go, it will employ 3,000-4000 temporary workers. After it is built, they will be let go. And that's all the jobs that will be created. A pipeline doesn't need long-term employment to make it run. It just sits there.
The only people benefitting from Keystone will be Canada and the politicians they bribe to get it passed.
Any person without a job will be more than happy to take a temporary one.
I am curious as to the difference between a "temporary" job building a pipeline and a job building a road or a bridge? Other than rhetoric?
Guess it doesn't matter. Pipeline will be built- just after the election.
The majority ownership in the Alberta Tar Sands belongs to China, and most oil from the Keystone XL Pipeline is promised to China. This was confirmed by the office of Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
TransCanada Pipeline Company, builders of the Keystone XL pipeline says it will create 20,000 jobs, 19,500 of which are Canadian jobs and 500 of which are American jobs.
Only the banker knows for sure!
No. American people are smart to understand that Republicans' are doing everything to win the election. They will vote for President Obama in 2012. President Obama is hope for America to prosper and again become world leader.
I surely hope you are correct. (I don't want to say right). Sadly, there are an awful lot of stupid and uninformed people out there. Most of them watch Fakenews for their daily "information and news".
I did vote 'NO'. I almost voted 'yes' because my vote moved into the wrong circle.
That may explain why you sometimes get the wrong vote.
remember - younger people and those on cell phones only - are not being polled ! make sure to vote ! all elections matter ! lets stop the repulsicons from destroying our country99% !
the more these repukes keep talking and obama changing his direction of speech more americans are seeing them for what they are really like. we are not stupid people
Um, yes you really are.
um...no we're not. and you are RUDE!
Please don't feed the wacko...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gas%20bag
This one's for you Wacko !
Gas bag = wind bag, pompous, talkative, bloviator. One who bloviates - constantly talking, often in a longwinded pompous manner. Many of these folks like the sound of their own voice - often unaware of those around them who are often laughing at them behind their backs. These folks are often very vain and conceited - impressed by their own self importance.
I see that ignoramass WACO is still at it. Dumb as usual.
Talk is cheap but at least you're being honest for a change and giving Obama credit for the only thing he's good at...
Running his mouth.
When are we going to see that change we were promised?
Chitown WEAKLING - For your info,that's the ONLY thing any / all politicians are good at.It doesn't matter which political party they are affiliated with .
....when the obstructionists stop running their mouths with lies and actually DO the jobs they get all that pay in the Congress to do!
No sh*t sherlock.
CHI , When REPUBLICONS get OUT of the WAY ! And LET the DEMS FIX , the MESS the REPICRITS LEFT US99% !!
WE99% have a PROBLEM with CONGRESS ONLY WORKING OVER a MONTH ! And NOT PASSING ANY JOBS BILLS the DEMS WANT that WOULD CREATE JOBS , ACTUAL ONES !! What HAPPENED TO - YOU DONT WORK - YOU DONT GET PAID !!
Chi WEAKLING - I knew that over 25 years ago.You mean to tell me you just noticed it ? Boy are you stupid.
Democrats are scared. Their man is in deep doodoo and they know it. Now they try to blame the other party for Obama's FAILURES.
Obama is the biggest failure since Jimmy Carter. Like Carter, he is in over his head but his ego prevents him from ever knowing it.
And the only thing the Democrats are able to do is to come up with more ways to slur the word "Republican", like a bunch of grade-school kids.
For your information, Einstein Blue, GEORGE W BUSH gave that $500 million to Solyndra, NOT Barack Obama. And while I am at it, lets face facts- 5/9 of the SCOTUS has been bought and paid for by the Republican Party, they are a disgrace. If only there was some way for the Justice Dept to investigate these ALLEGED non partisan Judges.
Your Fox News ignorance is showing, BIG TIME.
Hope 4201, Let's laugh the dynamic duo off the vine. They came on together, let them leave together. All they want to do is distract and insult. They have no vinacity, no friends, and are nothing but trouble.
They contribute NOTHING, like our t-party House.........NOTHING. Like them, they obstruct, lie, and distort. They are mouthpieces for the Limbaugh crowd and Fox noise.
GW killed the solyndra deal because the numbers were not working, obama told them to ignore the numbers and spend the money. Bush was right, the ol broken clock, but it was just our money obama gambled with, he could still afford the aspen trip.
How is the tea party obstructing the keystone pipeline? How are they stopping oil rigs from drilling in the gulf? How are they stopping gibson from making guitars? If obama would just propose some spending cuts to pay for the roads and bridges they could work on that. But reid won't pass a transportation bill, so they can't do anything about it.
Wrong again lying liberals. The Bush administration decided to PASS on Solyndra, while the Obama administration gave them money and LOST. Do you realize how easy you all make it for me to debunk your nonsense? Seriously, I hope you all realize you are the lowest common denominator among citizens because you don't know your @zz from a hole in the ground.
The White House also noted to ABC News that the Bush administration was the first to consider Solyndra's application and that some executives at the company have a history of donating to Republicans. The results of the Congressional probe shared Tuesday with ABC News show that less than two weeks before President Bush left office, on January 9, 2009, the Energy Department's credit committee made a unanimous decision not to offer a loan commitment to Solyndra.
Did the White House think pointing to the fact that the Bush administration considered - and then rejected - the same application that Obama eagerly accepted to the tune of $537 million in taxpayer cash somehow paints them in a better light? Seems to me it just illuminates that much more clearly how cavalier, and reckless, Barack Obama and the Democrats are with money - especially when it is someone else's money.
David,
Your MSNBC ignorance is showing BIG TIME. Kind of works both ways.
It got replaced with Obama's plan: You don't work? No problem. Here's your check.
Besides, this isn't what the Democrats did in Wisconsin is it? Instead of reporting to work they hid out at a hotel in Illinois. The only way they could get these deadbeats to return to work was to stop their direct deposit and make them show up to get their checks in person.
Do you project much? Got your panties in a twist because I'm criticizing your tin dictator huh?
Also the quickest way to get booted off this forum is to make personal attacks. See ya and I wouldn't wanna be ya.
I don't work and I get paid quite a bit. The total of my company pension (for working for 35 years for the same company), Canada Pension (like your Social Security - which I started collecting at age 60), and my Old Age Security Pension (which every Canadian gets - over and above Canada Pension) totals just short of $40,000.
In addition I receive the same excellent Canadian health care (twice as good as Americans have at half the cost) with no out of pocket costs and taxes 1/3 of what Americans pay for taxes + insurance + deducitibles + copays. My "high" Canadian taxes on just short of $40,000 pension income is $3400 (or 8.5%) and that includes all my health care costs (no insurance costs, no deductibles, no copays), and in addition to that, I get a $156 sales tax rebate every 3 months (as 30% of Canadians do).
And yes, Canadian health care is excellent for both chronic, less serious, and serious illness and injury.
My uncle cut his hand off with a circular saw in a work accident (the board he was cutting was struck and bounced up), and within 35 minutes of the accident, he was having his hand reattached by microsurgery... yes, in Canada, with no out of pocket costs.
My mother had bypass surgery beginning about 4 hours after hitting the ER doors with a first instance of chest pain - two 98% occluded coronary arteries..... yes, in Canada, with no out of pocket costs.
I've had 3 major surgeries within days (and in one case hours) of doctors finding the need for the surgery.....yes, in Canada, with no out of pocket costs.
Everyone I know, and have ever known, in Canada who has needed medical care (minor or every serious) has gotten it as fast as, or faster than, an American could have had the same in the United States (at the cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars out of pocket in the US) costs $ZERO out of pocket here.
91% of Canadians and 45% of Americans (many of those Americans have lived in Canada and used Canadian health care) consider Canadian health care to be far better than American insurance-run health care.
John Murphy,
great post.
These people who talk about if you don't work you won't get paid forget those of of us who are 60 + old geezers on pension, although I retired at age 55 with a full company pension (as many Canadians can) and have been retired for over 6 years. It was 6 years January 4, 2012.
No actually we don't forget that. A pension is something you earned by paying into while working, just like Social Security. Nobody is talking about taking away money that was yours to begin with.
Only 33% was my contribution. 66% was the company's. Of course Canadian companies don't pay a cent toward health care, so I guess that evens out.
Hello, John, so good to hear from you again. I am so jealous of all those health care benefits and such. America needs to wake UP!
Instead, the GOP wants to take us back to circa 1900. It is a disaster waiting to happen. Well, my passport is current. I always enjoy your comments. Thanks for coming on the vine again!
Maybe the whole plan is to make the banking regulations as a political bargaining chip.
No -- but it WILL cost the GOP Congressional jobs, if the public pays attention!
Like you said,IF the public pays attention.Lets just hope that they do pay attention or we could be F***ED for this one.
AS WE99% SHOULD GET RID of THEM !! And the ones LEFT need to ACTUALLY WORK for US99% ! They WORK for US99% - NOT CORPORATIONS !!!!!
I voted no because I think the American public is smart enough to see the obstruction and the more the repukes keep pushing for their agenda items, like their war on women, and not bring up anything to do with jobs, and the media does its job covering it, they public will have all the information they need.
Obama hired more Wall Street and Big Bank Executives than any previous President to posts within his administration. So I would ask his advisors. LOL!
The GOP House PASSED over 18 Bills for a Senate vote.
The Democrat Senate FAILED to bring those Bills to a vote on the floor.
The Democrat President said he would VETO the House GOP Bills.
The Democrat Senate gave ZERO votes to Obama's federal budgets.
The Democrat Senate provided NO alternative Bills for the House GOP.
The "Do Nothing" Congress is Democratic - 1st TWO years of the Obama administration.
The "Do Nothing" Democrat Senate shoved Obamacare through a GOP Filibuster, but NO Jobs Bills.
gop.gov/indepth/jobs/comparison
Still a RED NECK.
and still repeating the same the same garbage over and over on every article that comes up.
Git 'er done! Word.
There are several non partisan places to get your facts from. I would suggest that you might try one of them instead of the obvious gop talking points.
The Dem's. were doing what every elected official should do, they were trying to compromise. No one really expected the Republicans were really as loony as they seemed. The Dem's. did make a mistake by trusting the un-trustable. And by trying to satisfy the Party of "HELL NO! Believe me I hope they learned their lesson. This mistake is too Damming to repeat twice.
Exactly ! Get your facts right !
The Dems should STOP compromising, we are all being dragged to the right, kicking and screaming- congressional liberals in 2012 would be moderates/blue dog democrats in 1980.
Why not point out that sitting in Boehner/Cantors chamber is the student interest rate bill and the Transportation bill. Now it seems that Boehner will drop social issues for jobs. Where were they the last 3 years. After alienating women, blacks, students, unions, unemployed, Hispanics, and now Asian's I guess it would be time to move on.
David---I agree These guys will be tarred and feathered by, Grover, if they even start a word with the letter ---"C"
Wacko, if you would like people to take you seriously, I would start with a name change. Wacko just doesn't make me consider your info credible
I WANT SOME of that WAKO CRACKO ! But I WOULD STILL VOTE DEM !!!
Boehner passed a bill to stop the interest rate rise. Reid will not pass a transportation bill in the senate, so the only way to fund roads is for obama to suggest cuts to pay for them because he has already stolen the highway trust fund to buy votes.
So far I can only find one person who lost her job because of the republicans. A cleaning lady in wisconsin who had a sign in her car supporting walker, but I don't think the republicans wanted her fired it was the union that did it.
Wouldn't making a women get an ultrasound make a job for a tech, someone to build the little probe, someone to teach how to use the probe, someone to sell the probes, and someone to collect the obama medical device tax. So that would be a half dozen jobs, but only for vaginia as it is a local bill.
OMG, I forgot about all the farmers who lost there jobs when obama cut the water off, and the boeing plant he has spend 3 years stopping from being built in north carolina. I am sure there is a reason bush did all that while obama was in charge, after all the republicans are stopping jobs.
You assume I care what you think of me and my opinions. I like my name because it best describes the left's movement supported by Obama, Pelosi and Reid. The Occupy movement exploded in their face, just as we're seeing with Barrett in Wisconsin. You can't prove my 'talking points' are wrong, so you all keep flapping your lips. I'm smiling!
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It might, but Romney will open his mouth and Obama will CRUSH Mitt!
I read an article the other day by a guy that had gone to Cranbrook with Romney AND Harvard with Obama. What are the odds of that?! He said Romney was just an average student and Obama was brilliant and everybody knew it. He also said when they start debating, Obama will cream Romney. He said everyone at Harvard knew better than to try and debate Obama! LOL
You are absolutely right!!! Willard when he open his mouth..he becomes more stupid...
MJB, Yes, Obama was brilliant at Harvard and a great debater. The debates is what will do Romney in. He will look like the weak candidate he really is. He has no grasp of foreign policy and is a pathological liar. He has no credibility at all. He's very ineffectual and it will shine like a lighthouse beaming on the Isle of Man when the debates begin. LOL
It will guide Obama's ship right to shore!
At least if the teleprompter doesn't go off. Obama can't tell what country hawaii is in and he was supposed to have been born there.
It a real good thing the debates will be moderated by tingly feeling libs who will never admit the truth, or ask him why he is so dead set in killing jobs across the country. Or why he let electric rates go from $16 kwh to $370 kwh in ohio. $160 kwh in his backyard of dc. SUCKERS.
slacker,
same old tired talking point about the teleprompter.
reagan used a teleprompter, and he also used Nancy.
she sat in the audience and kept him on track, because his alzheimers, especially the last 4 years of his presidency made him very forgetful.
Slackwort, I think Obama knows where Hawaii is.
That's the republican plan.
If the republican plan succeeds the entire middle class - left, right and center- ...
we'll all go down together.
If 51% or more of the voting public are stupid it will. Think of it McConnell, Boehner, Cantor and the teabagger crew are trying to ruin American to get their guy elected. And in such a notorious way!! The only way the POTUS has any blame is by trying to reach across the isle and negotiate with them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXBDEPr9P9k
If he was smart,he wouldn't negotiate with the fourth REICH since they really don't care about anyone.
HELL NO!! The Repug-Bull-Krapi-Con$ voted 9 times against jobs bills. In 2010 their election slogan was "Day 1 job 1 will be job creation"
On day one the went to fundraisers and have worked on abortion ever since.
This disgrasful cheerleading against America will end the Repug-Bull-Krapi-Con$ Party!!
The reason they are not creating the jobs they are taking the money to buy our election instead. I guess all those tax brakes and tax payer subsidies that the republicans just extended, shows it doesn't creates jobs.
When did they pass a tax extension? I was against that 1 year payroll tax obama suggested. Those rino's should have made them permanent. The obama tax cuts for the rich, again it was the dems pushing for it. I wanted permanent cuts for everyone.
Subsidies, why doesn't reid stop them, he has been stopping all the cuts from getting through. Won't bother me if all subsidies are removed, starting with the green, farm, and if there are oil ones, get rid of them. Most of the oil "subsidies" are not that, they are just business deductions, but if you want to get rid of them it won't bother me. But I think reid and pelosi are trying to keep them and right a new special interest law to not allow oil companies to same rights as everyone else, and I won't support that.
But till reid and obama start helping, one half of one branch can't do a whole lot. Obama has already proved he will ignore court orders so they can't use the courts to force him to let people work.
Lets hope so...
... for change so..
Yes.In the (R) eyes they believe that they did a great job in stoping everything President Obama threw out there to get the U.S.A back together. They (R) worked against President Obama. Hell Yet We The People are a whole lot smarter then those Stopper's in Congress. We know that it takes time for jobs to Come Back to the U.S.A. Since they (R) outsourced our Jobs. And if the Banks stop gambling our money and start to give loans out. We can make. I also want to tell you I do Not Trust Bill Clinton. I pray for us as a Nation of Hope.
Keep in minf that Sarah Palin is still very popular with the Teapartiers! That proves the lack of brains in that sector of the population! And it is the reason I am worried and that I pray for Obama and all the Dems.
@Rlagunas,
What do you mean, "I do Not Trust Bill Clinton"? Even Bill Clinton knows Obama is in way over his head and is a horrible President. It didn't help that the Obama played the race card on him during the 2008 primaries. Bill Clinton is not a stupid man. I truly believe that Bill Clinton wants what is best for this country. He knows that is not another four years of Obama. He knows to get off the train when he sees it's going to crash.
And the Romney solutions are?
If he can't do the job better what makes you think the american people will trust him given his numerous policy changes over his many years of unsuccessfully running for office. Romney has run a negative campaign of historic proportions but has put forward no real plan. Don't you think the people are owed an actual plan? But he won't do that because he knows like with his Bain claims once people investigate that they will see an exaggeration to misleading narrative.
so where are the romney solutions I've heard none but the same talking points
I will help the economy by helping the economy is not really a game plan that that's essentially what he's running on at this point
Guess Clinton isn't as "smart" as you think he is because he's not backing Romney in the least and neither would the rest of the republican party if they had another half credible choice
@CC,
Bill Clinton came out this week and sang the praises of Bain Capitol, Mitt Romney and Donald Trump. Several other high ranking Democrats have come out in favor of venture capitalists as well. This President is so in over his head, but what did we expect from a community organizer with no executive experience?
And the Romney solutions are?
Private equity is not going to move this economy
4.2 million jobs were added if Romney can't show any legit projections that the will be able to motivate more independents who he needs will not be inclined to vote for him
That ad you just played about "Never mind my policies, we will be better" just pisses me right off. In other words....don't think about how i will screw you over, think about a white man in the WH again. Grrrr
I have to vote no - I can't begin to believe that President Obama COULD be defeated; not this decent, intelligent, good man.
.... or narcissistic.
Dishonest :
Lying, Cheating or Being an Arse.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dishonesty
Hey Mike, You continue to call him socalistic. Care to prove that claim? Or is it just another Obama slam?
What part of the financial takeover, the healthcare takeover, the home mortgage takeover, the student loan takeover, the auto takeover do you not consider socialistic?
If none of them, maybe the problem is in your definition of socialism?
But where is this great intelligence? He doesn't know the SCOTUS decides on constitutionality of laws, he doesn't know there are 50 states and DC, he doesn't know that if you pay for someone to throw parties, the party ends when you stop paying them. Pray tell what gives you the impression he is a great thinker?
Slack: You still don't know what socialist means. Still guess you hate those highways huh?
What financial take over. You mean giving the private insurance companies more customers. I thought you rightie were all about free enterprise. Insurance is still handle by private companies. OH, you mean finally makeing them accountable and not ripping people off.
Larry
I've done business with insurance companies for 50 years.....never ever had a problem. Every time I needed them they were there.
So the government tells you to be a customer, and tells the company what they must sell you. Hmm, I can't find anything that remotely smells of socialism.
See I was right, socialism is the government controlling the business.
What business are highways? The ones here just lay there and make potholes, a lot like a welfare mom. Just keep popping them out and demanding more money.
Now if you are ready for a little edumacation..... Highways are a national defense issue, they are built as airport runways to allow planes (bombers, fighters) to takeoff and land should the country get to where we are fighting on the main land, or our airports were taken out.
If you read slowly, national defense is listed as a power of the republic.
But good luck finding out which parts since 9/11. They pulled all access to knowledge and obama hasn't returned our freedom to have knowledge either.
Can someone please tell me how any president can "Create Jobs" In the past when we have had low number of jobs the President and Congress together created jobs(they can only MAKE jobs that are Government Jobs---Infrastructure , bring our Country into this Century---Congress has stopped all of that --as a matter of fact they have in every state eliminated as many government jobs as they could get away with!!!!! This is treason from the Republican/Tea-party and I hope the people in this Country won't reward them by voting for them.
Those damn filibusters that your Republican senators have whipped out at every turn along with a few Blue Dog Democrats who couldn't keep their egos in check. Now what?
Congress is to blame for this mess and we need to get rid of the gop who are nothing but obstructionists and could care less about the people in their states let alone our country.
I agree with you Ely from New York. Let's get the government we deserve come November.
@Mike you clearly know nothing about our government. Either you never had Civics or you slept through it.
The Democratic Senate NEVER had the filibuster proof senate. If you recall it took many months for the sore loser coleman to finally concede long after it was proven he lost the election to Sen. Franken. We also had some blue dogs who like the gop cared more for filling their wallets than care for their constituents in the fold and of course the demented joe lieberman.
Unlike the fascist gop the Democrates are individuals and we do have some who like to march in lockstep. I'm surprised the gop don't walk goose steps and extend their right arm out in the nazi salute.
Agree, Judy W. Very well said!
I voted no. I see the trolls are still using that lame talking point that "Obama had a democratic congress for two years" as if nobody could see the republicans totally abuse the filibuster. I guess they think that we forgot how the country got into this mess. Funny how nothing had to be paid for when they were in office but all of that suddenly changed when Obama took office. Remember them saying that "deficits don't matter" when GW was president. If even they thought their plans were so great they wouldn't have to tell outright lies or try to suppress the vote. They claim to love freedom but are always trying to take it away from people. They claim to love the constitution but only the parts that suit them. Anything bad that they accuse others of doing, you can bet they are the ones doing it. Instead of standing up for things that are right and believe me, the leadership doesn't believe the BS that they tell their followers but say anything to appeal to the lowest common denominator in their party. It's easy to control people through their hate. They claim that Obama is bad for business if that's true then why has business been booming. Nothing they say adds up. Sane people can see through the hypocrisy but hateful people can't.
Mike. You guys keep saying "we had control of congress". Please give us the names of those 60 Democratic Senaters it takes to over ride a filibuster. I've ask several of you guys with not ONE answer. I'm waiting.
The senate cannot filibuster a budget, so if it is spending that creates jobs then reid can still "create" all the jobs he wants. The house is begging for the senate to pass a budget so the country can get back on track.
I answered on a different thread, but there was the socialist Sanders, who at least is honest and admits what he is.
There is Leiberman, no conservative, just doesn't think his jewish breatherin should be killed off by palistine like obama. He is a dem or he couldn't be a chair in the senate.
That illegal senator form mass,. And those other 57 dems. Then you add all those rinos, like hatch, shelby, mccaine, mitchell, and you have about 90 votes.
That obama is so wacco his own people can't support his ideas is not the fault of the republicans.
Fact is the Liberal Democrats in Congress were able to defeat a GOP filibuster because they had a sufficient number of Democrats and GOP to support their shoving Obamacare down our throats, but NO JOBS. Where are the jobs Democrats?????
The Senate can and does filibuster any bill that come to the floor. The only exception is a bill brought up on reconciliation, which can only be used once a session. I really wish you would learn how the senate rules are set up.
But even if that were true, it still take 60 votes for "procedural" cloture. Name those 60 Dem. Senaters. Over 400 GOP filibusters in 3 years.
How did the Democrats pass Obamacare over a GOP filibuster and you'll have your answer. Now where are the JOBS?
I answered on a different thread, but there was the socialist Sanders, who at least is honest and admits what he is.
Slack
Sanders calls himself an "independent" now. The focus groups showed him that being known as a Socialist is a ticket out of Washington. You notice that Obama won't call himself a Socialist either.
That was the one accomplishment newt made. Sanders never voted anything but present till newt won, then he was voting straight dem party ticket on every bill.
Got him out of the closet so to speak. But you never here the other side thank him.
No, we will be more than determined than ever to keep a republican out of the Whitehouse!
Obama/Biden 2012
Wisconsin is the Domino as you hear Ed Schultz screaming about a potential lose for the wacky far left Democrats. HAHAHA!
Obama/Biden 2012 Chicago Dog Catcher
Unhinged :
Crazy, insane, psychotic, confused; a basketcase. not attached where it really counts, much like a door ( knob ).
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You Libs are nuttier than a pet raccoon. You make no sense, you have no solution, you wine out of your as2@#. dishonest cheats, thieves, Fox news watchers. Wakco is absolutely making you all look like fools.
Hope42012 - you sound like a cheerleader that had her pom pom stolen, and your the best YOUTUBE searcher I've ever seen. Al Sharpton should look you up. Any of you Libs need a YouTube see HOPE.
Judy W. you talk like you came from the 19th century.
I will say Ed needs to give you awards for Best Idiot Puppets of the year.
outlaw. We've tried giving solutions. Your only solution is cut taxes and deregulate. that's worked so well for the last 10 years. But as I recall, all you've ever done is bitch and insult. I've not heard ONE solution from you. Just sarcastic remarks. Just like the one you posted above.
Outlaw 12, Actually, we do have a solution: Barack Obama.
There is an h in the word whine, and wacko lives up to his name rather well.
As for Judy, she's just over your head.
I agree with what Larry 74 just said.
Larry stop, Ive said this until I'm Exhausted. You guys are lost now. Hell at least Clinton could work it out with the GOP and the times were good. I liked Clinton sharp cookie. Hell I would of been OK with Hillary Clinton. GOP would of worked well together. Obama NO WAY. He tried to ram his health care down our throat, it was game on with GOP, Big Mistake. I feel Pelosi was your biggest problem and Canned it with the GOP. You really want this country to rev up. continue the Bush Taxes, Corporate Taxes Down to 15% You'll have Corporation hiring. Oversea Corp. would flood our gaits just for the saving with the understanding you have manufacture in the U.S. Lower our export tariff tax and raise import taxes except consumable goods. you won't see anything for about six to eight months, but you will see it.
Larry I tried to talk with reason, but sarcastic remarks were started with you Libs first. I brought the Olive branch. Your friend started the trash talk, fine game on. I can play the game. You want discussion in a sensible way. I'll welcome it.
True American Patriot
Wrong outlaw. And I ask what solutions you have brought. No answer. Surprise. I've ask to name the 60 Democratic Sentaters your side say we had to control the congress. No answer. Surprise. Don't try telling anybody you want to discuss anything. You brought nothing. You've insulted, called names, and spread lies. If you wanted to discuss something, you would answer some simple questions. So I guess that proves you have no intention of discussing or bring up any solutions.
outlaw 12, If what you say is true, about lowering corporate taxes and continuing the Bush tax cuts, (Both of which are continuing), why aren't the jobs coming back? Why are the largest corporations sitting on a three trillion dollar profit? (I think it is due to supply and demand, but I am a Keynesian). If the jobs don't come back, supply and demand will remain stagnant. The largest corporations, thanks to loopholes, are paying virtually nothing now so how can your candidate incentivize them to return to America? Their taxes are already near zero and actually zero for some!
As for your first point, it will shock you to know I agree with you. Obama's concentration on the health care plan instead of the economy was a BIG mistake. He got bad advice, and he was new and he took that advice and it is a mistake he may never recover from. I sincerely hope he eventually does recover, however, as the alternative is unthinkable. Romney is weak, ineffectual, and not very bright and had a bad record as Governor of MASS. He likes the Ryan plan which is a truly brutal and draconian document. On top of being immoral, it is a big deficit raiser.
The Bush tax cuts are a big deficit raiser as well.
Because obama is on record as saying no way no how will they be done again, so is pelosi and reid. He wants any money you don't keep in a swiss bank. That is not going to get business hiring, it is going to get them to use the tax break this year to fund there exidous next year. He has already scared a face book co founder out of the country. And he lost millions if not billions. Can you just imagine how bad it would be for him if he made that much instead of lost it?
But the money is also over there, they can't bring it into the states to spend. See greedy obama above.
Where is your outrage over clinton, he makes his money in the united emirrit.
That is in the middle east, not new jersey.
They are not sitting on $3T profits, they are sitting on $3T they don't want to be without when they need to flee from more taxes. Money in your matress doesn't make anything, but it is there and doesn't get stolen. What are they to do spend it now, and then what happens when the goons from the irs show up wanting what you don't have. The church is a prime example, they were told they would not have to violate there principles, yet HHS now says tuff pay up. Bet they wish they had thought ahead like the businesses are.
No tax cut, except a refundable one costs anything. And I will join you in ending those, but good luck getting reid to go along.
And again, right wing talking points with zero sources. It's Boehner with that record. And how about making a deal and then passing bill trying to get out of it. Remember Boehners deal with the last debt cieling hostage taking? Boehner made a deal. He's now trying to back out of it. Yep, Republicans can sure be trusted. OH, and let's not forget McConnell's deal with reid to ot use the filibuster. Another Republican lie.
And once again not once legitimate source. OH, that's right, no sources at all.
And have you been calling your reps telling them hell no, you must cut the spending, you already spent the money! I have been. I won't miss boehner a bit, that is why I am trying to get you to help put ron paul as speaker, you don't have to be a member of congress, and he will stand up for his convictions and not lie and stab you in the back. the dems and tea party could give him the votes to replace boehner.
What is being filibustered now?
How do you post links, they are in my comment, then when I hit post they aren't there?
If I steal your wallet with $20 in it, and next week I rob you again but you only had $10, I did not give you $10. I am ten dollars ahead, I didn't loose any money, you did. Do I really need to find a link for this to sink in?
So are you saying obama and reid want to extend the obama tax cuts? Then why did they only pass them for one year, and did all that yelling about it also?
ron paul is not gonna be speaker, or anything else. he's kind of a bigot, and yes he does lie, and he loves his share of pork. he gets around it by knowing that there are enough votes for a bill that has his pork in it, and then he votes NO.
what is being filibustered?
since Nancy Pelosi took over as speaker of the house under bush, the number of filfibusters has grown BY THE REPUBS as a matter of course.
they filibuster everything. it is the way the repubs do business in washington.
Larry Your silly Pop quiz questions on 60 Senators I really have no interest on. My statements are brief out lines. Your Question have no reflection to the short term remarks on this forum. You want abortion, then go to the abortion forum. My statement was brief. You made it in your typical, Horse S@^&% Pop Quiz I'm smarter than you CANARD. Your the typical Liberal, with the big YOU OWE ME CRAP behind every statement. This ED put you MORONS on a roller coaster ride, WHY, Because he's making a BIG PAYCHECK YOU FOOLS.
@larry74
Here's a list of your 60 Democrats in the 111th Congress:
1. Mark Begich - Alaska
2. Blanche Lincoln - Arkansas
3. Mark Pryor - Arkansas
4. Dianne Feinstein - California
5. Barbara Boxer - California
6. Michael Bennet - Colorado
7. Mark Udall - Colorado
8. Christopher Dodd - Connecticut
9. Joe Lieberman - Connecticut (Dem until running Ind. Caucuses with Dem)
10. Ted Kaufman, Chris Coons - Delaware
11. Tom Carper - Delaware
12. Bill Nelson - Florida
13. Daniel Inouye - Hawaii
14. Daniel Akaka - Hawaii
15. Richard Durbin - Illinois
16. Roland Burris - Illinois (‘til 11/29/2010)
17. Evan Bayh - Indiana
18. Tom Harkin - Iowa
19. Mary Landrieu - Louisiana
20. Barbara Mikulski - Maryland
21. Ben Cardin - Maryland
22. Edward Kennedy, Paul Kirk - Massachusetts (‘til 2/4/2010)
23. John Kerry - Massachusetts
24. Carl Levin - Michigan
25. Debbie Stabenow - Michigan
26. Amy Klobuchar - Minnesota
27. Al Franken - Minnesota (from 7/7/2009)
28. Claire McCaskill - Missouri
29. Max Baucus - Montana
30. Jon Tester - Montana
31. Ben Nelson - Nebraska
32. Harry Reid - Nevada
33. Jeanne Shaheen - New Hampshire
34. Frank Lautenberg - New Jersey
35. Bob Menendez - New Jersey
36. Jeff Bingaman - New Mexico
37. Tom Udall - New Mexico
38. Chuck Schumer - New York
39. Kirsten Gillibrand - New York
40. Kay Hagen - North Carolina
41. Kent Conrad - North Dakota
42. Byron Dorgan - North Dakota
43. Sherrod Brown - Ohio
44. Ron Wyden - Oregon
45. Jeff Merkley - Oregon
46. Arlen Specter - Pennsylvania (from 5/29/2009 after changing parties)
47. Bob Casey - Pennsylvania
48. Jack Reed - Rhode Island
49. Sheldon Whitehouse - Rhode Island
50. Tim Johnson - South Dakota
51. Patrick Leahy - Vermont
52. Bernie Sanders - Vermont (Ind but caucuses with Dems)
53. Jim Webb - Virginia
54. Mark Warner - Virginia
55. Patty Murray - Washington
56. Maria Cantwell - Washington
57. Robert Byrd, Carte Goodwin, Joe Manchin - West Virginia
58. Jay Rockefeller - West Virginia
59. Herb Kohl - Wisconsin
60. Russ Feingold - Wisconsin
Did I miss anyone?
Russ Feingold is no longer a senator.
outlaw12, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor - repeatedly.
If the American people are intelligent they will reelect President Obama as even his worst month is still much much better than bush2's best month.
Do we really want uneducated people who believes fnc decide who will lead this country?
MA saw first hand what kind of a leader willard is and we hate him, he won't even carry MA in November and it's not because he's a gop, he was a gop when he was elected in our state and it didn't take long for us to regret that he was elected as our governor.
And it was what as Bush's term was coming to a close? So let's not try and play this game that Bush's presidency is some bubble where everything bad is on Obama yet when there's some good we want to retroactively put some of the praise on Bush.
More Republican lies about jobs :
http://bluemassgroup.com/2012/01/gop-lies-about-jobs/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4islJUe4ZWw
http://lezgetreal.com/2012/01/the-republican-lies-about-federal-pay-and-benefits/
Actually it was the bush / pelosi / reid grand destruction that caused all the problems. Any one of the three could have ended the madness. Strange reid had no problems funding the bush waste, what is different about the white house occupant that makes his want to destroy the country now rather than help?
Is it he is waiting for a fellow morman, or something a bit darker?
Slick:
Like who? The prince of darkness? Same diff.
No that won't cost him the election. Mitton is single handling buying each and every electorial vote. And the weak, narrow minded living in a vacuum GOP voter will go along with whatever FOX and the GOP tell them. Then they will go to church and they will tell them how to vote.
If they are that STUPID,then maybe they shouldn't vote at all.
I don't think all of the Republican voters are that blind or gullible. I many Republican friends who are appalled with the Republican politicians are doing. These are fair minded and honest Republicans. Unfortunately, I have a few friends who believe everything that Fox news puts out. Nothing anyone says will change their minds.
No mike. I make up my own mind. I was a Republican. I got smart. 2010 was the first year I ever voted a straight party ticket. And that was because of all the GOP lies. They've gottem worse. They force me to vote for the party.
Wow, I didn't know that many GOP went to the black churches. And still you call them racist? They just had the big meeting for how the churches are to tell the people to vote, and no white catholics were invited.
larry74: How could you fall for the lies of 2010, the only thing they ran on was stopping obamacare and stopping the spending. It is reid stopping that, but any straight ticket is a wasted vote. There is no such thing as only good dictators. Even a straight libertarian ticket would be bad because there is always a snake in the grass hiding waiting to strike.
Take a look at Gary Johnson and don't choose the lesser of two dictators at all.
Every one of them lied about what "Obamacare" was. EVERYONE OF THEM.
but then you still ahven't figured out that your insurance company is the one between you and your Dr. Or that they are the "death" panel.
The 1st version of Obamacare legislation DID refer to "End of Life Counseling", which was quickly removed in the 2nd version. Then again, I wouldn't expect you to know those details. You actually thought MSNBC didn't claim to be "news".
Well occupy wacko, you are very condescending and rude. I guess your name fits you, wacko.
They said it would raise costs, it has. They said it was unconstitutional, it is.
They said you would loose your coverage, you are.
The only lies have been by pelosi and obama. Everything they said has now been proven false. churches will be forced to ignore their faith, doctors are dropping patients, people are loosing their coverage they liked. SCOTUS is being derided for doing their job.
But you can ignore an insurance company, all they can do is refuse to pay. You can't refuse obama, he will lock you up till you croak.
most of obamacare hasn't even been administered more importantly the goal is to put the nation on a path to control the cost of healthcare because of the long term effects to the economy. That's why we need the individual mandate to halt the circle of people shifting in and out of the healthcare system. Even if it is a small amount, everyone must have skin in the game. Not having insurance isn't illegal, people have a right to think whatever they wish, but when they get sick and can't pay we foot the bill. It's time to make them play something. Unless you've got another way to stop that
no. when this nation was in its early days the government legally mandated all capable militia men buy their own weapon. They had no choice, so unprecidented, no
Nope. and no one else seems to be losing coverage either.
Nope. Even catholics don't think their freedom is being attacked since all women use contraception. If the pedophile hiding church doesn't want to follow business law they shouldn't own businesses. And yes hospitals, non profits, and universities are not religious institutions by nature. Priests will not be forced to give out no birth control next to the holy water. Not to mention they receive millions in fed funds and already provides contraception for women in the charities and colleges it owns. Why should women pay more for a prescription drug(the pill) plan even if their are supposed to be presciption drugs?
but of course never let facts get in the way spin right? lol
Yes, you tell them sorry, you wanted to pay yourself, then be our guest and pay.
Have you not been reading the news, companies are dropping coverage all over the country, they can't afford obamacare, and have told employees sorry.
A university has just ended coverage for students because of it. Doctors are telling patients they will have to find someone else best of luck.
Did the continental congress tell them they were going to jail if they didn't buy a gun? And read what you wrote CAPABLE men, so you don't have to buy the gun if you are a women, or incapable. Where is the out for obamacare? Obama says the irs will put you in jail if you don't buy obamas junk.
He might have had the idea of lowering costs, but you can't fix the problem hiding in the back room cutting deals with our money and expect it to work. If the ideas worked you could let people see and comment on them and suggest changes.
Take the 26 year olds on parents policies. What are orphans supposed to do you just removed most of the people from the coverage pool? It leaves them hanging in the wind. A single mon who child turns 18, and can finally drop family coverage and use that extra $500 a month to fix things, or help pay for college. Now she has to give the insurance company another $40K that could have helped her family.