MSNBC's Thomas Roberts speaks with Ed Schultz, host of the "Ed Show," about how the Wisconsin governor has become a champion for conservatives.
Ed Schultz is warning Wisconsin voters that "they may be voting for a criminal" in the recall election of Gov. Scott Walker, set for June 5.
"This John Doe investigation has reeled off a bunch of people who have come forward and been charged with felonies," Ed said on MSNBC Live with Thomas Roberts. "These are his people, so we don't know where that is going."
Ed was referring to the secret "John Doe" investigation in which five staffers who served under Walker when he was Milwaukee County executive are facing criminal charges ranging from campaigning on county time to embezzling money from a veterans program.
Walker has not been implicated in the scandal, but he's hired criminal attorneys using money from a legal defense fund.
Democratic challenger Tom Barrett is demanding Walker release emails between himself and former aides who are under investigation, as well as a list of donors to the governor's legal defense fund.
"We are asking these questions because Wisconsin deserves to know the answers to these questions prior to the election on June 5th," Barrett said.
Roberts asked Ed about reports that show Walker leading in the polls, that he has become a champion for conservatives and that some people speculate he may even get a place on the Romney ticket.
"I think that would be great," Ed said. "There has been no governor that has attacked the middle class more than Scott Walker so if they put him on the ticket – win, lose or draw in Wisconsin – it would be the dream tickets for the Democrats because he is so vulnerable."
Ed welcomes Walker's Democratic challenger, Mayor Tom Barrett of Milwaukee, tonight on The Ed Show at 8pET on MSNBC!



What about Florida's governor? He was implicated in shady dealings while head of United Health care, remember? This maggot crook got elected anyway! It seems that republicans have the propensity to vote for the worst of the worst, don't they? The worse the character and moral flaws, the better!
Remember GW Bush, Cheney, et al?
Are you serious Roman? Character and moral flaws? Gosh, look in the democratic mirror. Either you are 10 years old playing on your dad's computer or you are just plain clueless. No other comment is even warranted.
Johnny, yes, yes I am serious! Any other questions? What other character traits would you place on the Florida governor? He stole millions of tax payer dollars from medicare and is now Florida's governor?
Justify that will you please!
I don't know anything about it to comment. If he did, he should not be in office.
Calling people names and lying about people has to stop...on both sides.
Politics now days stinks and I honestly think it because people like Ed...;who curse on the radio...who call people names....who rant.....scream..... and I think Obama has divided the ranks in a way no other president has. That is my opinion.
What makes me sick is when people like Ed get desperate....they lie. They make up things. They spin. Has both sides done that? Sure........but not like now.
There has never been a president like this one who has amassed as much baggage as he has so far.....from the people he surrounded himself with to the agenda he is pushing.
Only if you believe the right-wing bull@!$%# that's been flooding the country since he was elected, as you obviously do.
Tea-baggin-gop-Are ALL CROOKS !!!!
Tea Party? Where did they come from/WHO they are...
1980..."Freddie Frats and Material Gurlz
1990's...Yuppies and Soccer Mom's
2000's...Fired Crook Bank VPS and Desperate Housewives..
They talk about being against subsidies..Wanting "limited" government.
WELLLL!. They want the government to pay for their kids "private, segregated schools" aka Charter Schools. Don't have a clue about REAL EDUCATION, just want to make sure their spoiled brats don't have to go to school with blacks. Don't have the discipline to give up one of the Bimmer's and actually PAY to send their kids to private school..They laid off all the blue collar productive workers BUT now want the gov't to bailout/SAVE their worthless pencil pushin'/paper shufflin' BANK jobs!
The Tea Party is all about the PROCESS of Feeling IMPORTANT..They think they're experts on the Constituion when all they really want to harp on is sticking to Parliamentary Procedure..
These people, mostly made-up of spoiled brats themselves, just want to go back to the party of unlimited American Express and Flippin' Houses.
We need an AMERICAN PARTY.. One that protects our borders AND our American Jobs. That goes after the white collar criminals and BUSTS up the BANKS!
Cute name, Pappy.
Wow, I have the honor of being the first person to say on this blog how disgusting Ed Schultz is by saying what he is saying above about Scott Walker.
You don't have to be for him, you don't have to agree with anything he says or does....but these LIES that Ed comes up with out of desperation because he knows that Walker is up by 8 points......this the most messed up disappointing thing Ed has done in a while...and he does a lot of disappointing things.
All of you Ed heads......tell me this. Why doesn't Ed write a lot of good things about his democratic candidate Barrett. I have not seen ONE statement from Ed Schultz on this website how great Barrett is for the job.
All he does is berate Scott Walker. Ed, you are dirty and saying he is a ciminal is pathetic.
Ed, I guess you heard today about the democratic organizations that are pulling their ads, saving their money, because they havev thrown in the towel on this contest. Is this why you have started with more lies?
Why can't you just say the reasons your man should be elected....Walker and Obama..........INSTEAD OF SPENDING ALL OF YOUR TIME, LYING, SPINNING, MAKING UP STORIES, MAKING UP CHARTS, about the opposition.
I will say, I begin to watch you show every night at the very beginning. After about 3 minutes, I have to cut if off........too sickening. If I happen to be on the road, I will surf the radio channels and come across your radio show. Today, a man got on there and told you how it was...and you cut him off and started your preaching and never returned to him.
I pray that Scott Walker wins and I wll not root for him by slamming the other guy and making up lies. I will pray that Mitt Romney wins but will not root for him by saying things that are lies about Obama. Obama's record will do him in.
BUT ED, BY GIVING EVERYONE WHO READS WHAT YOU WROTE THE IMPRESSION THAT IF THEY VOTE FOR WALKER, THEY ARE VOTING FOR A CRIMINAL.........THAT IS EVEN PATHETIC FOR YOU.....AND THAT IS PRETTY PATHETIC.
I hope the people of Wisconsin speak and not be led astray by Ed Schultz going to their state to stir up crap. Did you guys know Ed Schulz had never even set his big fat foot in Wisconsin until this stuff came up almost 2 years ago. There is a reason the major dems are staying away....and people like Ed are yelling.
Bring it on Lefties. I'm fired up. I invite all of the left folks from all 57 US states to comment.
Hi Johnny....go peddle your BS somehwere else like Fox,,,,or are they tired of you too so you come here?
BS? Can't you comment? Instead of just doing the old name calling? Is that all you can do now? Nothing constructive? Come on Enodot. At least comment on what was said. Why do you always say Fox.
I hardly watch Fox. I will have to say I turn and listen to what Ed and Rachel are saying just as much...just to see. Why do all of you guys blame Fox.
This is unrelated but if Fox is so bad or "whatever" you say, why is it the number one rated network by a long shot and why is NBC and BSNBC the lowest rated? Just explain that without calling anyone a name if you can. I am fired up buddy. Bring it on. I am tired of the lies and names you call everyone. I hope they allow me to keep talking. I will keep it civil....and I will never call you a name.
Lies and names I call everyone? My comment was and still is BS...spew it somewhere else Mr. Fired Up
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker Implicated in Criminal Complaint Against Aides
A recall from his position as Wisconsin's governor could ultimately be the least of Gov. Scott Walker's worries, if a criminal complaint quietly moving forward in the Badger State court system continues on its current trajectory. At the moment, Walker seems to be at the bottom of a mountain where an avalanche is just beginning to roll.
A 51-page criminal complaint [PDF] (the "Rindfleisch complaint"), which formally charges Kelly M. Rindfleisch with four felony counts of misconduct in public office, contains factual allegations which implicate a number of individuals, listed as "interested parties," including WI's controversial Republican Governor, in a wide-reaching criminal conspiracy to misuse public employees and resources for partisan political gain.
While that appellate ruling may serve to help expedite Walker's potential removal from office via the ballot box, a recall could ultimate prove to be less of a concern to the embattled, right-wing governor than the criminal case steadily moving forward in Milwaukee.
The factual body of the Rindfleisch complaint suggests that prosecutors are painstakingly examining evidence that may well place Walker at the center of a criminal conspiracy to illegally utilize employees within the Milwaukee County Executive Office to engage in fundraising and campaign activities on behalf of the Friends of Scott Walker and others during office hours at the expense of Milwaukee taxpayers.
Each violation of the relevant WI criminal statutes at issue in the matter carries with it a potential imprisonment of up to 3.5 years. As that case moves forward apace, Walker could lose a great deal more than simply his hold on the governor's office. His very freedom may prove to be at stake as well...
http://truth-out.org/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=6692:wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-implicated-in-criminal-complaint-against-aides
That's because Barrett is a useless waste of flesh who can't even do the job that he's currently appointed to.
Tell me, Johnny, who owns faux news? I believe it is still Rupert Murdoch, enough said. Scott Walker is an amoral excuse for a human being and a major threat to the American Way Of Life. He stands for nothing except the greed of the 1%. Don't try blowing smoke up our ass by trying to convince us that the 1% are not conducting a war on the middle class. We are not as stupid as you wish we were. The day to day actions of the republicons and their so-called candidates speak very loudly to us. From the depletion of our buying power, to the republicon insistence of increasing interest on student loans while trying to end any educational help for our children, to their attack on medicare, social security, unemployment, etc., etc., etc.
Hey! Chitown! If you're going to use someone else's work, own up to it! Or else it's plagiarism!
Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Happy to cite sources, no worries.
johnny,
and i invite you to answer the question, "is our children learning"?
also, please comment on a sept 6th, 2006 comment made by W. bush to Katie Couric, "you know, one of the hardest parts of my job, is to connect iraq to the war on terror".
also, "i'm the (decider)--see i don't need to explain--i do not need to explain why i say things. that's the interesting thing about being president".
"they misunderestimated me"--w. bush, bentonville, ark., nov 6, 2000
Johnny
If you want to say something to Ed, he give an e-mail address to contact him. And if you choose to read something, he said "may be voting for a criminal". Well I would say that if there is an investigation going on, there "may be a criminal" involved. I also notice you no problem coming on his blog for the sole purpose of bad mouthing him. Mobody is forcing you to watch. And your comment to Enodot shows you can't read well. Please point out where he called names.
Mitt Romney wants school vouchers? No news here folks!
Where have we heard this nonesense before? It's just another promise made by Romney to his banker and Wall Street crook brothers, that education money is coming their way so that they may continue to feed their gambling addiction with tax payer dollars!
How cynical, perverted and downright twisted is that?
School ouchers don't work!!! Why are the republicans stuck in a time warp dating back decades? I hate Mitt Romney passionately! This shameless liar doesn't even deserve to be a nominee! Where is the lame stream media to call this liar out for his continual and habitual lying? The media has no cajones, nor do they posses any ethical standards!!!
If the public schools aren't good enough for these Wall Streeters, then they should make the sacrifice to PAY out of pocket for their brats privat, SEGREGATED school!. In 1970, it was the "Freedom of Choice" movement..In other words, white folks could send their kids to primarily segregated schools and avoid blacks.
You want private, PAY for private..I'd go after another group too.,.The Home School Movement. Home Skewlers want it both ways..Segregated/Isolationist educations BUT demand to participate in public extracurricular activites (Sports, band, etc)..Unless it's for a medical "catch up" reason, FREE the kids from this isolationist cruelty.
I used to work in the school systems here in Nicki Hailey's South Carolina..In fact, the primarily white school districts of her own Lexington County..The upper middle class kids were the biggest bunch of slutty, lying little bastards.
It was all about how GOOD the band was OR the football team..Education?. GEEZ!..Way down the list of Parental Priorities.
The left put up the most despicable human being in recent memory for Vice President John Edwards. They are just trying to get some of that stink off of them selves.
Yes he was a despicable human being,up to the point of being right behind that guy,oh what was his name uhm,that's right Gingrich,Newt Gingrich.
Cheating on your wife who has cancer, having a child, denying it, whatever Newt did, it's not even in the same ballpark.
Hey Eric, let's not forget your pal ol' pal Rush Limby....guess what I am saying is cheating, lying, denial, stealing knows no political party so yes, THEY ARE IN THE SAME BALLPARK!
Eric, Newt informed his wife, on her death bed, while she lay dying of cancer that he was leaving her for another! You're correct, not even in the same ballpark, Newt's actions were worse! Thanks for pointing that out!
However, that being said, both of these despicable subhumans are scum!
What Newt did was wrong. What he didn't do was get a girl pregnant, tell his married staffer to take the fall for him, the use taxpayer money to try to hide the thing from the voting public. Edwards is worse than Newt, if only by that much.
Either way, if we wanted to trade criminal politicians we could do so all day from both parties. Blagojevich, who was a member of the House of Representatives before he was governor, comes immediately to mind for the Dems. That Alaskan senator Ted Stevens nailed for corruption comes to mind for the GOP. Both sides have screw ups and shady characters. It's part of politics.
But only the Republicans refuse to do anything about their criminal colleagues. Never said a word against Vitter, still in office, Craig, left to finish out his term, Sanford, cleared of all charges the entire world knows he's guilty of, and Ensign, who stayed in office for 2 years and didn't resign until 1 day before he was going to be investigated by Congress.
John edward turned out to be corrupt. His goose is cooked. He was like willard in the way he though he "DESERVED TO BE PRESIDENT", he didn't, and neither does willard.
We do give up on those liberals that turn out to be losers. But you guys seem to just keep defending your losers.....I notice newt, vitter, gw, chenny etc, never get called down by your party for their disgraces......hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? Whats that all about? ? ?
Politicians are not always perfect people and most of us do not vote for someone based on their personal life, they are elected to represent their constituents and for the overall betterment of the U.S. in general. Personal lives started to become a big deal when the right wings so-called "god", Reagan, handed over the republicon party to the religious conservatives, who don't believe in abortion, even in the event of rape, incest or even when the child might be condemned to a life of misery because of birth defects, Then they want to end any government help they might receive if needed. The right claims to want government out of people's lives, but when you can't find reasonable fault with the oppositions politics, you go straight to their personal lives. If I were you, I would consider this form of attack very carefully, it could become very much more embarrassing for your party in these days of instant internet and access to history. Don't forget the parting words of another parting republicon, "I am not a crook", they then had to find a candidate to run, Ford, who could pardon Nixon, before he became America's first president to go to prison for crimes he committed while in office. Their are also a lot of people, not just in the U.S., but all over the world, that feel that Bush/Cheney should be tried for their actions while in office. Both parties have embarrassing incidents with their candidates, the right should quit trying to be so righteous. It is the republicons that have brought America to this outrageous divide in public opinion.
Ford was Nixon's VP. He got promoted automatically when Nixon resigned; he wasn't elected to a term, so he never "ran" for anything until he LOST in the next election. At least get your history right when you have a legitimate scandal to gripe about. And Nixon's crime was spying on his opposition via an illegal wiretap/bugging a hotel room. On the scale of shady political dealings it doesn't really seem all that shocking or out of character for EITHER party.
Typical. A right-winger doesn't find Watergate shocking.
All in a day's business, eh?
Compared to something like Blagojevich trying to SELL Obama's vacant Senate seat? No, I don't find the fact Nixon was way too paranoid for his own good and sloppy enough to get caught doing what he did to be all that shocking. Although I think that has more to do with how political scandals are investigated and reported today more than anything else.
I see. Your problem with Watergate was that it was done sloppily. I guess if they'd gotten away with it, you'd have no problem at all.
And you have no problem with the Attorney General of the United States trying to burglarize the DNC headquarters. But I'll bet you think Holder is just "horrible."
There is no doubt this man is doing dishonest and desperate things. He is willing to sell his soul to the devil to stay in office. I am amazed at how many with lots of money come running to his aide. If hes guilty i hope they throw the book at him !
And they say Foxnews is biased. This crap is horrible. Although I did enjoy the first 40 seconds.
Wiscoforward? You mean Wiscobackwards, judging by your post! You actually support Walker? Wow, cretinism affecting some people in Wisconsin is worse than I thought!
Yes, I actually support Walker! Is it so hard to believe his policies are working? They are, and you can name off all the b.s. liberal media facts you want, but I see the benefits first hand. So I hope your state, which ever it may be, can follow suit before it's too late. If the victimized entitled [liberals] would stop crying, they too might see the good he is doing for the people of Wisconsin. To the other folks of Wisconsin, I'm sorry you had to lose the recall even tho you fought so hard.
Uhh...I realize Republicans are factually challenged, but the only recall that's actually occurred is of two Republican senators.
Having a victory party at my place June 5th. You're invited!
I don't enjoy rolling in the mud with pigs. But you go ahead.
Only people who can't think for themselves and have to be spoon fed crap watch fox news.
Wiscoforward, exactly which of Walker's policies are working? Is it his job creation, his attack the middle class or just his attempt to support the tea parties selfish, ridiculous policies. I once had the pleasure of spending some time in the fine state of Wisconsin, I do not believe that you represent the average citizen, most of the people I met were hard working and only wanted a fair chance in life to support their families and make life better for the next generation. I can only come to the conclusion that you have some self-sufficient reasons for your posts. I hope you're not too lonely on June 5th. I wouldn't count on your 1% leaders going out of their way to console you.
Uhh...I realize Republicans are factually challenged, but the only recall that's actually occurred is of two Republican senators.
Can you clear that one up a bit? Because I know that there have been other successful recall elections in history. We had one for governor Gray Davis, a Democrat, here in California. The guy Schwarzenegger replaced.
Yeah, I can clear that up. Try focusing on WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.
I am, you talked about recalls and said only two Republican Senators have been recalled. I think my asking you to form a complete statement is valid since there have been more recalls than that in US history. Were you talking about in Wisconsin? Recalls this election term? In general?
Then I cited an example of a recall of a sitting Governor in my state to illustrate that you were not clear enough, or wrong if you were speaking in general, which is more relevant than a vague statement. Especially since the topic here is the potential recall of another sitting Governor.
Impeccable logic, John 3:14. Only thing is this entire thread is about WISCONSIN Gov Walker, the WISCONSIN recall election, and WISCONSIN politics in general. Didn't notice any previous post mentioning Pete Davis, California, or the general history of recall elections. Other than that, flawless reasoning big guy.
Think wiscotroll is Walker himself or maybe just a close relative?
No. Just stupid enough to vote for him twice and learn nothing at all.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree and Walkers cronies are already facing criminal charges I'm just saying. Walker I am not sure you can govern from prison...Do yourself a favor and resign now...
LOL
if he is lucky enough to win again, it will be short lived, as either he will be removed for his dealing in john doe or maybe cause he lied to congress.
but i thinking he is gone in june and in jail by august.
LOL thats just a SWAG
I'd bet on it as well, Piolet......done, gone, goose is cooked.....and the kochroaches can lick their wounds.
johnny 3188.. you are the pathetic one, speaking up for Walker, a well known liar and a cheat! He didn't campaign on his divisive tacticts nor on his anti-union agenda! This loser gov. a Koch brother hack and shill, derves to be boiled in his own pudding!!!
I hope Wisconsin has the courage and wisdom to oust Walker! He's done enough damage to this state with his divisive anti-union anti- teacher, firemen, anti-policeman garbage! These Americans are not to blame for the economic melt down! Idiots like you should place the blame squarely where it belongs, on crooks like Walker and his plutocrat donor wealthy, like the Koch brothers!
How stupid are you not to see what the misguided anti-working class, poor, children, elderly, ill, conservative agenda is? That is intolerant and I hope the good people of Wisconsin have the courage and conviction to defeat!
All Americans must join the fight against the extremist conservative agenda and twisted ideology which erroniously places the blame on ordinary citizens for our country's economic ills!
The crooked wealthy elitist banker and Wall Streeter greedy gamblers are to blame, not your fellow middle class Americans!
I am not speaking up for Walker. I am just sick of the lies and spins Ed puts out.
If your candidate is so great....talk about him. I don't live in Wisconsin. Do you?
Stop with the name calling and false statements.
IF WALKER WAS SO BAD...WHY DON'T THE PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN VOTE HIM OUT? WHY DON'T THEY MAKE THE MOVE?
Why are the polls way in his favor? Walker is bad just because Ed Schultz says so? Bull hockey. Let the people decide. Let each side spend what they want and campaign the way they want to.
Tell Ed to stop crying about the dems not spending any money in Wisconsin. Have you ever had the thought cross your mind that Ed may be wrong about anything? Gee, he tried to be a right wing host and failed at that and moved over to the progressive left....did you know that?
Its simple. If Walker is so bad, let the people of Wisconsin vote him out. They voted for him one time.....and then all of this crap happened.
If this man wins again, after all of the slander, stories, name calling, ...things the dems and unions have done and the money they have spent...........then....
...........SOMEONE NEEDS TO JUST SHUT THEIR MOUTHS..................
don't you agree Roman?
I agree. Does that count?
No.
... and buried with a stake of holly in his heart!
HUMBUG!
Umm, the republicans are outspending 25-1 to keep walker in office. Not sure why you are crying about unions helping out the dem side. Im just glad that those fat cats that are paying for his election cant actually vote for him. So all they are really doing is helping the Wisc. economy. Thanks Koch Bros.
Trickle down economy??? I think that's the Republican economic plan.
Johnny- well said- the point is not whether anyone supports Walker or not- the point is that Ed is interviewed as if he is some expert of criminal matters- and with pure speculation suggests that Walker is a "criminal" for the express purpose of trying to influence an election- Ed rants about others trying to influence election- and yet he does the same thing- Ed him self may be guilty of crime or at least a civil offense of slander- I realize that Walker is a public figure- but there are limits in terms of slander on public figures-
ST54, don't all policital show hosts do the same thing? Don't they all rant and rave?
If there are limits in terms of slander on public figures then why does the right unload on POTUS? Again, all the same.
Agreed as to political hosts- but to call someone a criminal- with the intent to influence an election in my view goes to far- the public figures concept- is that typically public figures can claim slander- kind of part of the deal of being a public figure- but in this case to make claims of criminal action based on pure speculation may cross that line-
It's funny. I don't watch Fox Propaganda, because everything they say is lies. And yet, you call Ed a liar, and can't stop watching him. How come?
And why not at the very least, since you're so in love with the truth, call out all the right-wing liars, since they are so numerous with, as you people love to say, much bigger audiences? Isn't that a bigger problem that would horrify you?
You don't watch Fox, yet you know everything they say is a lie? Typical.
Other networks repeat what they say as an expose. That's where I hear it, mostly. And then there's typing "phony fox videos" in the search box on YouTube. It's amazing how many of them there are. You should try it. Just as an experiment with seeing reality clearly.
Not to mention repeats of Fox news passed off as tea bagging Koch employees opinions.
Kind of hard for people who do not live in Wisconsin to actually see what Walker has done to this state. I live in a rural area. Last week an ad from the NRA played on a local radio station. The ad claimed that if Barrett was elected he would take away the deer hunter's hunting rifles. Not a grain of truth to it. Unfortunately, many of our local hunters and elderly along with the uneducated will believe this to be true. Fear mongering anyone?? The recall started with the unions/collective bargaining issue. Since then, other issues have come up so it is not only about the 1 issue. By the way, my husband is in a private union. Thanks to Walker's union bashing there are talks that the private union employees will be taking more than a few dollars an hour cut when the new contracts are negotiated. I guess that can be called trickle down!!!!!!!!! Quit the union bashing!! The union has provided our family a decent living wage as well as good health insurance and a pension.
st54,
you don't like it that Ed is interviewed as if he is some sort of expert on criminal investigation?
what about the birthers calling out President Obama, accusing him of being a "muslim", a "kenyan", a "liar", "unpatriotic", and ETC. not that there is anything wrong with being a muslim oR a kenyan, but apparently to repubs there is something wrong with being an african american POTUS.
WITH PURE SPECULATION, the repubs have slandered our president, and for people in america who believe everything their repub representatives tell them, they now believe it too.
you don't think what the repubs have done to our president, based on pure speculation in regard to his citizenship, isn't to influence an election?
there are criminal charges against scott walker, and 5 of his staff. read above, please. i think they should find out if walker broke the law, just as repubs want to find out if john edwards broke the law. just as the bush administration falsely accused don siegelman (D alabama gov) of criminal charges, and he was in prison for 3 years because the bush administration wanted a repub gov. in alabama.
repubs are far worse at bringing down democrats, then vice versa.
to make this short, if anyone can bring charges of slander, it would be President Obama against the baggers/repubs/conservatives in washington who have slandered our president for the past 3.5 years.
of course, you don't care about that, because you believe what the repubs have said about our president.
i am embarassed and ashamed of the repub/baggers/ conservatives in this country. they are unembarassable in their open hatred for President Obama, and are not ashamed of the bigotry and hatred directed toward this president, and other democrats.
i wish you all would take off your bagger blinders.
Ed talks so much about the process and we should respect the election process. Ed does not believe the Supreme Court should be ruling on Obamacare because it was fairly voted for in the Congress....so he says...we should not mess with that vote.
YET:
WHEN SCOTT WALKER WAS ELECTED GOVENOR 2 YEARS AGO.....OH NO....ED LED THE CHARGE TO RECALL AND DEBUNK THAT ELECTION.
You cannot have it both ways Ed. Respect the process. Bull!!!!! Only on the things you want the process respected on.
The supreme court is a supposedly impartial court which was appointed by one party or the other, it is not supposed to make law, it is there to interpret the written law. Recalls are a movement by the people when they believe a mistake has been made in the voting process. Try not to confuse the two.
johnny,
you are just like all the repubs in washington.
you do know that the individual mandate, A REPUB IDEA, was constitutional before it was unconstitutional. mark pauly, one of the originators of the individual mandate worked for the H.W. bush adminstration. as far back as nixon, the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE was used by repubs to counter the democratic "single payer". they brought it up for Teddy Kennedy's health care reform, and they dug it out again when Hillary was working on health care reform.
this is REPUBS HEALTH CARE REFORM. mark pauly said that the constitutionality of the individual mandate (repub idea) has never been questioned, not until President Obama put it on the table to try to get repub votes on the bill. very conservative repubs agreed with this bill, james inhofe, orrin hatch, mitch mcconnell to name a few.
they loved the individual mandate because it got rid of "free-riders", and promoted individual responsibility.
mitt romney loved it so much, he made it law while he was gov. of mass., and sent his guys to the white house to share information about the "plan" and how mitt made it law. the individual mandate under President Obama is the same reform as mitt romney's, EVEN THOUGH HE LIES, AND SAYS IT ISN'T.
mark pauly is very disturbed that the repubs now act as if they have never heard of the "individual mandate", and want it to be unconstitutional. the partisan hacks of the supreme court, the very same ones who "annointed W. bush President, will do the same thing to President Obama's health care reform,they will strike it down because they don't want him getting credit for anything.
answer this: why was the mandate constitutional before it was unconstitutional?
@Johnny-3188986 Having it both ways is the liberal dream.
No, that's Republican senator Daniel Craig's dream.
Yes, you're right wiscoforward, as a once democrat from a multi-generational democratic family I can truly say that we have tried to have it both ways. We want people to be rewarded for their hard work and entrepreneurial effort, however, we also realize that everyone who works for a living might not be as successful as they would like to be, but if a person works for a successful company, they deserve to share in the rewards of the effort. America tried doing the other way in the gilded age, it did not work for anyone except the very rich, and even some of the very rich were so bothered by the inequality of life, they helped change the way things were done, (i.e. Henry Ford), for one.
Real Chris. How do you know everything on Fox as you say is a lie? How do you know that? I watch Ed every now and then just to keep up with what he is spewing so I can comment after watching it.
Why don't you watch Fox some and then comment. Don't go on what Ed says or other progressives. It is the most watched news network in the country. MSNBC is last with hardly an audience. Who do you think tells the truth?
Fox Propaganda couldn't tell the truth even by accident. They are not a news network. They are a propaganda organization. Try checking what they say against facts.
And, as I repeatedly tell everyone, go to YouTube, type "phony fox videos" in the search box, and see what they've been doing for years.
Some more for you:
Why Fox News Channel Is An Industry Joke
or
Welcome to Info-tainment Tonight!
by Ron Kaufman
Relying on the Fox News Channel as your only source of news is like using MAD Magazine as a legitimate source of news. The Fox News Channel's reporting style is so biased and skewed that trying to obtain any real information from a news report is quite challenging. Fox News is a joke because it provides info-tainment rather than reality-based news coverage. Fox News Channel is a "news channel" in name only. The network is what L.A. Times Editor John S. Carroll calls "pseudojournalism."
Carroll's opinion of Fox News is that it is situated somewhere between journalism and propaganda -- but leans closer to straight ahead attack politics. The perversion of the Fox News Channel is that it is nothing more than a pulpit for the ultra-conservative wing of the Republican Party. The Fox News Channel presents sprinkles of news punctuated with interviews and commentary which promotes its own viewpoint. Sitting far away from objective fact-based journalism, Carroll comments that "if Fox News were a factory situated, say, in Minneapolis, it would be trailing a plume of rotting fish all the way to New Orleans."
http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/networks/foxnews/foxnews.html
MEENA HARTENSTEIN
Tuesday, November 22, 2011
If Fox News viewers want to be informed about current events, they might as well turn off the TV.
A poll released by Fairleigh Dickinson University on Monday found that people who get their news from Fox News know significantly less about news both in the U.S. and the world than people who watch no news at all.
In a survey of 612 New Jersey natives, Fox News fans flunked questions about Egypt and Syria when compared with people who don't watch the news. Fox viewers were 18-points less likely to know that Egyptians toppled their government and 6 points less likely to be aware that Syrians have not yet overthrown theirs.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-11-22/news/30431182_1_fox-news-results-show-viewers
All you have to do is turn on fake noise for a few seconds and it is pretty clear what their agenda is, and real news and information is the last thing for their purpose.
Isn't faux news still owned by Rupert Murdoch? Just look at what is happening to him in England and that should say enough. I am so sick of the republicon party complaining about the so-called liberal media and then bragging about faux news. Most news broadcasters check facts over several times before they report it. The news is supposed to be a report of something that has or is about to take place somewhere in the world. It is not their job to make up the news or to report only what they find acceptable. And can anyone give me a list of media companies that are owned by left wing liberals?
All you have to do is turn on fake noise for a few seconds and it is pretty clear what their agenda is, and real news and information is the last thing for their purpose.
That is so true. It's just as true of MSNBC as it is of Fox, in fact. You want real news? Watch the BBC. They at least try to remain legitimately impartial in the reports they post.
Real Chris, you need to watch a couple of O'Reilly's shows. Watch a couple of "The Five" shows. Even watch a Hannity or two.
Just watch the news programs....not even the talk shows. Then make a judgement. I watch Ed so I can make a judgement and believe me. He is bad news.
The progressive librals like Ed are in panic mode. They will say or do anything to get back in the game with Walker and Obama. Here is the proof:
THEY WILL NOT COMMENT ON THEIR OWN CANDIDATE...HOW GREAT HE IS....ALL THEY WILL DO IS SLANDER, SLAM, AND LIE ABOUT THE OTHER CANDIDATE...CALLING NAMES, ETC.
What does that tell you?
They're behaving like Fox?
I thought you might like to see what the person you like to watch is like:
Bill O'Reilly recently spoke with David Silverman, the man who calls himself the President of American Atheists.
O'Reilly: "I'll tell you why [religion is] not a scam, in my opinion," he told Silverman. "Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain that. You can't explain why the tide goes in."
Putting thousands or years of work from astronomers, oceanographers, and scientists to shame, O'Reilly throws his insight into the mix, claiming the existence of God to be proven through the inexplicable nature of the tides of the ocean.
http://www.ranker.com/list/bill-o_reilly-vs-science-o_reilly_s-top-8-science-fails/jennifer-lee
Fox News shoutmaster Bill O'Reilly recently said the ebb and flow of the tides is something science can't explain. All theological and religious arguments aside, we of course know precisely why tides exist - the moon. So naturally, that lead O'Reilly to ask the most important question in history - HOW DID THE MOON GET THERE?
Now, we don't have a 100% accurate answer for that. The prevailing hypothesis says the moon could be a big ol' chunk of Earth that was torn away by a massive impact millions of years ago. Or it could have been plucked from God's Galaxy Garden and placed there just so wolves would have something to yell at. We can debate it forever. But part of O'Reilly's argument is that the moon is unique to Earth, and therefore special. To further the point, he asks "how come Mars doesn't have that?"
http://www.gamesradar.com/bill-oreilly-says-mars-has-no-moons-then-where-does-doom-take-place/
Quite an educated guy you listen to.
That you're misinformed J-3.
Having said that J-3, I'll admit you have a point with this Barrett guy. After watching him pussyfoot around when Ed gave him the set-up, I mean the ball on the tee waiting to be smacked kind of set-up, he couldn't just lean into it and call Walker out for lying about his jobs stats when we already have video of him lying to Congress. I mean come on, Wisconsin Dems couldn't come up with a stronger candidate than this? And if that thing above about him missing the benefit for the policemen is true, that's a pretty big screw-up too, although I'd like to see his side of the story on that.
Even still, I'm following the Republicons Presidential election strategy on this one and saying anyone is better than Walker.
any vote for repukes is criminal
Billie, that cannot be your photo. You must have put your great grandmother's photo in for you so we will think you are mature. Anyone calling people names like you surely cannot be a mature woman. Don't you agree? Instead of making statements to discuss, you call people and organizations names. What a shame. Put your own photo up, now your great, great, grandmother's.
johnny that is my MOTHER you idiot
And, johnny, if it was her picture are not, you are just plain rude in making an assumption like that. Any one who is mature would know that. I agree with Billie.
Where is the avatar for your post?
thank you thankful mom
What a hypocrite. No photo of his own, but demands others put one up. Using what he's learned from Fox Propaganda.
you go, billie. like your posts, guts, and humor.
Has anyone noticed all Billie can do is call people names...That it! And he puts his mother's picture up there to honor her? You ought to be ashamed. If you want to use you foul language and call people names...at least put your own mug shot for us to see, if you want to use photos. Your mother. Probably a righteous woman and you defame her by using her photo and then just calling people names. Pathetic!
And still the hypocrite doesn't post a picture of his own, just criticizes other people's.
And to think I actually tried to give the guy a smidgen of respect. For shame. (On me too).
not sure but i notice johnny has no friends.
gee i wonder why.
its a easy move johnny just slowly pull your head out of your fourth point of contact and things will get much better.
to all walker lover's the one and only reason he's ahead in the polls is the money paid for by repuke followers like you
one more thing johnny learn how to spell
Why Johnny Can't Read: And What You Can Do about It[Paperback]
Rudolf Flesch (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Johnny-Cant-Read-about/dp/0060913401
Or it might be that a majority of people polled just happen to agree with Walker. That WAS the point of an election the last time I checked. Majority rules. It's why we have elections.
Right on. That is what elections are for. The only thing is, when the leftie progressive loses....they march, riot, shoot people, stir up hate.....ect. Its the great far left occupy movement agenda in this country. It has to be stopped. Mitt Romney in office will start the process.
When you guys lose, take it on the chin and go on. Stop your friggin' rioting.
And just shut up and watch the right-wing steal everything in sight. Don't want to be impolite.
Of course not. You have just as much of a right to bitch an moan about how things are run as we do. That's what freedom of speech is supposed to be about. Just don't get upset when we exercise our right to argue with you over the point.
well seeing he hasn't had anyone running against him until a few weeks ago, no wonder he is leading.
but still think hes gone.
sing alone
NA NA NA NA HEY HEY GOOD BY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76693.html
So guilt by association is great stuff, but asking an apparent liar, fraudster, and plagiarizer to just show us some evidence is somehow a crackpot idea?
Hypocrisy, thy name is Ed.
MONEY folks, BIG MONEY has PURCHASED scott walker....the current total is frightening and will certainly be the beginning of the downfall of free American politics and candidates of REAL populous choice.....not when they can be bought, as he has.
Get rid of all crooks especially in the republicans ranks because their all synchronised in perfect goose step. Their all from the same cowhide.
Before civility can prevail people must wake up from their deluded dream.
The human race has been in a deluded dream for 40,000 years. It's not gonna happen anytime soon.
Ed Schultz is the Rush Limbaugh of the left so nothing he says means anything or is a lie.
Leave it to the righties to come on His blog to do nothing but bad mouth the host.
nospin?
A BIG THANK YOU-MERCI BEAUCOUP! To, "The Real Chris"- you are our Knight in Shining Armour!!!
Interesting it doesn't mention that Walker asked for the investigations to begin, and that the law clearly states he is within his right to set up a defense fund even if he hasn't been implicated in anything.