House Republican Leader Eric Cantor advocated raising taxes on the poorest 45% of Americans. Other Republican leaders are in agreement. Ed Schultz talks with E.J. Dionne of the Washington Post about the proposed budget cuts by Republicans and what they mean for poor Americans.
Republicans are waging war on the poor in America. And just like the war on women, they want to pretend it doesn`t exist.
But it's real. And millions of the most vulnerable Americans are being targeted.
Ed talked passionately about this on last night's show and today posted a text version of the segment on Huff Post site.
Click here to check it out!



E.J. Dionne is so correct in his comments. Good job ED with this segment.
They would throw their own grandmother under the bus to protect themselves and their wealthy contributors.
Time to stop the welfare for the rich. Tax them just like the rest of us. Vote out the ones you can. They are turning this country into an Oligarchy. They are economic terrorists and falling very close to treason IMO! The founding fathers are turning over in their graves at this Brave New World Order the GOP is constructing for the wealthy elite. This MUST END or Democracy will end.
If they win, As W.B. Yeats said in The Second Coming, The center will not hold. A future of anarchy could be the end result. Hungry people tend to take to the streets. Is this the America we want?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQv4KlYP0Z8
Do you hear that? It is the sound of crickets...
that is all you can hear from people on this board since the photo was released today by ABC news showing blood on the back of George Zimmerman's head. Where are all the people who said there were no injuries? Where is MSNBC giving this side of the story equivalent coverage?
That being said, this photo does not prove guilt or innocence. We must still wait for the jury to decide that...if it gets to trial.
1st that's not what this treads all about
2nd there has been over 400 post to the thread about that.
so lose lose again
run, dodge and jump to distract and misdirect.
oh and the picture well that could have been photo shopped, maybe you should go over to that thread and read up.
Pilot...
Exactly which thread has over 400 posts on it regarding the photo that was released today by ABC? Oh that's right...there isn't one on this blog....
When you know what you are talking about, join the conversation..otherwise...butt out.
Since when did the "thread" topic ever prevent you guys from going off on whatever tangent you want? If I had to wait for MSNBC and this blog to cover this story, I would probably die of starvation before it happened. Of course, they wouldn't because their mouths would be full of the crow they would be eating or their own foot .
You must be thrilled by the fact that your hero, Zimmerman, already perjured himself.
He said in court that he thought Martin was an adult, maybe a couple of years younger than himself.
On the 911 tape, he said "he's got buttons on his shirt, he's a teenager."
Keep fighting the good fight.
I have never said whether I thought he was guilty or innocent...I have always said let the courts decide...unlike most on this blog who decided before there was even any evidence released at all.
Most of the people on this blog are sharper than you.
We all know stormy is rooting for Zimm. He can't post anything that relates to the topic. Always trying to stir the flame. I don't recall him ever making a meaningful comment. Typical right wing troll, use MSNBC blog to bitch about MSNBC. If you're so upset with them, contact them, or better yet, quit watching.
stromguy53,
i also posted this on another thread to you. and you dont need to apologist, as its over 500 comments now.
"Since when did the "thread" topic ever prevent you guys from going off on whatever tangent you want?"
since it is 99% of the time trolls and others who try to take threads off topic.
have a nice day if you can. and relax some you just might learn a few things.
LOL and yes butting out is not a option i will take cause you seem to not know whats going on. maybe take your own advice.
http://uncle-milty.newsvine.com/_news/2012/04/20/11304505-george-zimmerman-case-exclusive-new-photo-shows-bloodied-back-of-head
Chris - My defense would be Mr. Zimmerman could have believed that Mr. Martin was 18 or 19 years old, thus both technically a teenager and legally an adult. You could make an argument that when he said a "couple" he literally meant 2 years, but that would most likely not hold up in court as a "couple' is most often used generically.
You would also need to establish a timeline - did Mr. Zimmerman at first believe Mr. Martin to be an adult (in his 20's), then realize after visually engaging the subject more and realizing he was acting suspicious - he was most likely a teenager?
Yeah-you're not an apologist for Zimmerman.
What I am rooting for is a fair trial...if it even gets to a trial.
Nice post Pilot...too bad it is on a complete other website instead of this one that I was talking about. why hasn't Big Ed addressed the issue that he had so much fun in promoting when it favored his agenda? Now that the truth regarding his injury is coming out, he avoids it because it makes him and MSNBC look bad for having jumped all over it to begin with...just like how stupid Al Sharpton is looking now, just like he did with the Duke Lacrosse situation and the Brawley case.
If I waited until this blog posted something on this matter instead of starting it myself, I might be eligible for my social security checks by the time it actually happens
if zimmerman's head was smashed against the sidewalk within an inch of "wearing diapers" and "being spoon-fed by his brother", almost "unconcious" as it were, i would expect to see a lot more damage, bruising and abrasions, not just two cuts with alot of drainage, as the released picture shows. the drainage of blood makes the wound look worse than it is.
also, did anyone take a picture of his nose?
in zimmerman's non-emergency 911 call, he stated that martin was a teenager, not just "a couple years younger" than himself.
i hope the police department will also be on trial here for their past actions, and for the way they completely disrespected the body and family of Trayvon Martin.
I am not an apologist for anyone - I am just presenting a rational defense and like Stormguy, and many others, just want a fair trial. Like many on the hypocritical left, you complain that everyone on the right is some kind of Zimmerman apologist, doesn't care about evidence, etc. - when you have already tried and convicted Zimmerman (but in your case it is OK of course).
Stormguy - if you are waiting on the left to prevent an unbiased report on this case I would suggest not holding your breath. This is the type of case the left salivates over. They simply want to politicize this as the racist white man drunk on 2nd amendment and NRA fueled power hunting down an innocent black person. Hopefully the truth comes out at trail.
It too bad the underage kid wasnt strong enough to smash zimmermans head to death, then we could have a debate about the stand your ground law from the prey of the hunted, instead of the hunter trying to justify sitting his in car waiting for a black mand to come along. Don't even try racist fool. How would you feel and what would your reaction be if you were hunted? seriously. Its almost the country you want storm guy, the 50s ahhh, when abortion was illegal and a N****R knew what streets not to walk down so as not to get lynched.
But the question was the war on the poor. you know a war where you track someone down and kill them, i guess thats the relevance of the above post. you oppose your own position without even realizing it. The republican detachment from reality is frightening. You either need to support a minimum living wage and encourage work, subsidize wages for the 'job creators' that do not want to pay a living wage, or have a safety net.
The reason is, then we would all have to be zimmerman shooting presumed poor people trying to break into our homes for food. I can answer to the Lord for my politics, can you?
And how was he hunted Tom? you seem to know so much more about this case then everyone else...tell us how he was hunted. Tell us about how we was tracked down.
What is your definition of a living wage? for what job? does someone who works in a convenience store as a clerk deserve to have the same "living wage" as a construction worker? What goes into calculating what amenities are included for someone so that they can have a "living wage"? Do they get to have a paid for 2 week vacation every year? Do they get to have a computer for even person in the family? How many cell phones do they get? How many flat screen tv's? How many pairs of shoes? What car do they get to have?
If a single mom of 3 is doing the same job as the single male...do they get the same amount of pay or does she get more because she has to have a higher living wage?
I can answer to the Lord for all of my actions, not just my politics...you? But then again, since we have separation of church and state in this country, whether I can or not really has not impact on anything we discuss...according to the left.
Which lord is that storm David Koch or is your lord Reagan? As those are the only lords you seem to listen to. Guess what storm keep the faith and I'm sure Saint Ronnie will trickle down on you any day now. Btw storm nice try at showing you don't know what you are talking about a usual.
As usual Whom..no answers from you..wow...what a surprise.
Maybe when Zimm followed him? Maybe when Zimm got out of his vehicle and followed him on foot? Maybe you need to listen to the 911 tapes again, you missed them the first, second and third round.
Larry, Am I mistaken? I thought this vine was about Cantor's war on the poor?
All I am seeing is trolls talking about Zimmerman.
Well, I have to go anyway. The Pirates are at home tonight. I am a big baseball fan. Go Pittsburgh! Might chime in later if I get home early enough. Soldier on with the trolls. India out.
Poor storm wears his religion on his shirt sleeve and then rips the sleeve off when it comes to taking care of his brothers.
Larry...last time I checked, maybe wasn't enough to convict somebody...
Whom...good comeback...surprised that you didn't make a comment about tea baggers or Faux news or another one of your brilliant phrases..
It too bad the underage kid wasnt strong enough to smash zimmermans head to death, then we could have a debate about the stand your ground law from the prey of the hunted, instead of the hunter trying to justify sitting his in car waiting for a black mand to come along. Don't even try racist fool. How would you feel and what would your reaction be if you were hunted? seriously. Its almost the country you want storm guy, the 50s ahhh, when abortion was illegal and a N****R knew what streets not to walk down so as not to get lynched.
But the question was the war on the poor. you know a war where you track someone down and kill them, i guess thats the relevance of the above post. you oppose your own position without even realizing it. The republican detachment from reality is frightening. You either need to support a minimum living wage and encourage work, subsidize wages for the 'job creators' that do not want to pay a living wage, or have a safety net.
The reason is, then we would all have to be zimmerman shooting presumed poor people trying to break into our homes for food. I can answer to the Lord for my politics, can you?
i think its pretty clear, judging from the way Trayvon was treated by the officers who showed up at the crime scene, that Trayvon would have been found guilty, that no-one would have believed a word he said, and that he would have been found to be the aggressor. he would be in jail.
this situation is one in which Trayvon could not have won.
Thats right Ed, keep creating those failed Social programs that addict people to government services, remove individual responsibility, and create National Debt. I think the failue of the War on Drugs takes a second place to the failure of the War on Poverty. Trillions of Tax Payer dollars have been redistributed to the poor and there are more poor than ever. Of course they are only poor in the eyes of Americans. So called poverty in the United States pales in comparison to poverty in most other countries. I think it would be an up hill battle to convince the average person in the Sudan that any one in the United States was poor.
This so called war has nothing to do with the poor or proverty. It has to do with the Government's Power to take from one citizen and give to another.
No the failures are pure 100% GOP created. It was not social programs that created the debt it was the tax give aways to the wealthy. Sorry the trillions went to GWB's wars and bank bailouts. Once again comparing apples to oranges, but thats ok if the GOP get their way the US will be just another 3rd world country for China to take over.
Taking the money from the middle class and giving it to the rich.
Wealthy income increase-275%
Middle Class income increase-18%
That's the "failed" social programs, we aren't giving enough of our money to the rich. We still have enough to buy a soda, hopefully. But, have no fear, the GOP will take care of that extra change for us.
There goes the bottle deposit.
Actually, it's about the upper class (the 1%) keeping the middle, or so called middle and lower class at the bottom. Comparing the poor in this country to third world countries is not a fair assessment, not apples to apples. Looking to the most vulnerable, the elderly, the highest percentage of the poor...yes, they do receive handouts, social security, SSI, Medicare and Medicaid. Nothing wrong with that. Many collect food stamps, receive low income housing and heating allowance. What's wrong with a country taking care of its elders. Absolutely nothing. It's done in third world countries, and it should and can be done here.
2ez,
the major portion of our debt was caused by W. bush taking us into an illegal war in iraq.
when the debt ceiling is raised now, it is to pay for the debt that W. put on the credit card.
Sorry Suzzette but you are wrong on the war being the largest part of the debt increases. In Bush's largest deficit year FY 2008, the Federal deficit was $455 billion. The wars had been going on for over 5 years and were in fact on budget, not off-budget as many here keep claiming. In FY 2009 Obama's first year the deficit was $1.4 trillion which included $900 billion in additional stimulus spending, which has continued for the last 3 FYs. You can find this data on the Department of Treasury's web site www.fms.treas.gov in the September 2008 and 2009 Monthly Treasury Statement link. And since I know someone will claim its the Bush tax cuts that are responsible CBO has already published data that by eliminating the tax cuts on the highest tax earners the reduxtion on the deficit would only be about $40 billion a year for the next ten years. As I have stated on this blog many times, the huge increases in spending programs during Obama's tenure as well as all of the Bush tax cuts need to be rolled back in order to have a substantial effect on the debt. Not a political statement, just fiscal facts.
Sorry Fed but they're not interested in facts. They're too consumed with their hate-fest of the GOP and are perfectly happy blaming absolutely everything on them.
You can post the numbers until you're blue in the face. To be interested in fiscal facts would require a firm grasp of addition and subtraction. I think you're asking way too much of them.
yea i Know but I would hope some would be interested in facts and possible solutions. Instead of just the same old bitchin and blamin.
Some of us are interested in both of those things, so don't give up hope.
Right you want facts and solutions from those who created the whole mess and who only offer more of those same policies that created the mess. A circular firing squad in action. Why don't you be honest, you want facts as long as those facts fit your beliefs, you want solutions as long as those solutions doesn't effect you.
In order for you to be able to make this statement with a straight face you'd have to first know who really created the whole mess. Your posting history has proven that you just keep pontificating the same language of division that you've been brainwashed with by the left. It's obvious you don't know the difference between propaganda and facts.
Why don't you be honest and admit that your knowledge is limited to left wing doublespeak, which you keep mindlessly repeating regardless of whether or not it's factual or even relevant.
Of course I know who created the mess. It started with Nixon onto Reagan and both Bushs. That you are a misinformed Fox news troll is also rather clear. The only propaganda is what you spew post after post after post. Why don't you be honest oh yeah thats right you are a tea bagging re reg troll who is incapable of honesty. Funny how you believe in a religion that says lying is the same as murder yet you couldn't tell the truth if your very life depended on it.
You are not in much of a position to talk honesty.
Find one reference on this forum I've ever made to religion. I'll save you the trouble, there is none. You just dreamed that up, just like you dreamed up that I am a re-reg, or that I watch Fox News, or that I'm a "tea-bagger." These are your hallucinations and have nothing whatsoever to do with reality as much as you try to convince yourself and others to the contrary.
It's a shame you believe so much in the first rule of propaganda - to repeat misinformation over and over thinking sooner or later everyone will believe it's the truth. Not all of us have weak enough minds to fall victim to it. Sorry to disappoint you.
Oh so now you are pretending to be a non religious re reg gotcha.
But you used to claim that you taught sunday school or better known as brain washing children who had no say in the matter as it was parents who decided for them.
No you're just continuing to pretend I'm a re-reg.
I've never claimed any such thing.
I'm really not being fair to you. I shouldn't try match wits with an unarmed person.
My bad.
Sorry but again I pretend nothing I and others recognize your writing style. The only way I would be stupid is if I took your word for more then what it is, a dishonest re reg that can't follow rules.
I accept your apology.
Whom it may
"you want solutions as long as those solutions doesn't effect you." Actually I proposed rolling back all of the Bush tax cuts. A progressive idea - shared sacrifice, that would definitely affect all of us. How about it? Or will I just hear the same ole BBB - bitch, blame and bad mouth.
Whom, A tax Cut, Any Tax Cut does not add to the debt, spending adds to the debt. A reduction in taxes simply allows the individual that earned that money to keep it. You talk as if all money belongs to the Government and that it is by the Government's grace that we as citizens are allowed to have some of it. You complain that some peoples income only went up by 18% while others went up 275%. Do you think that the persons who income went down may also complain about those that had an 18% increase? I myself can't believe people are complaining when their incomes went up. Sounds like greed to me.
Are you one of those that believes in income equality, that every one regardless of education, drive, work ethic, that we should all earn the same amount of money. That a doctor or lawyer should earn the same as a trash collector, that a teacher should earn the same as a miner?
What do you think would happen if the Federal Government abolished all social and welfare programs, then seized all Income and then sent every one a check for 50K a year? Do you think that would make people equal? I would wager to say it would not. I would suggest that only months after its implementation their would be people with nothing left and others that have doubled or tripled their money. In a matter of years the Liberals would want to implement more Social Programs to address the poor and new programs to address the disparity in wealth.
The is, has never been, and never will be a Utopian State. In the United States we all have the opportunity to succeed or to fail. To demand the successful to cover the cost of those that fail is not the answer.
Do you think the worker in Mexico earning $8.00 a day has as much contempt for you as you do for the wealthy in the United States? To him, you are the wealthy.
Eddie can def send some of his food he's not a small guy.
Just can't keep from insulting. Typical rightie.
Funny how they keep attacking Ed no matter what filth the GOP were involved in like Ed saying slut one time allows them to call women dirty whore sluts for years for taking "the pill". Funny how they will then whine women trapped them because they got her pregnant because she wasn't protecting herself from their invasion of her body, often under false pretenses.
eddie Calls others fat. He should be able to take it as well.
The Republican politicians take from the poor and give to the rich. Robin Hood in reverse.
Pam, They have to take care of those who bribe them! If it means robbing the poor, who have no lobbyists, so be it. I miss Ted Kennedy. He was a great advocate for the poor.
The Republicans talks a lot about the poor receiving too much. That we have to slash medicare and medicaid along with food stamps How much can we save if they got less. Are the worth $194.000.00 per year. Are they worth up to 90% of their pay after being in office 5 years? Why to they and their spouses get health care coverage at 100% for life. Would this be concidered welfare. We can cut costs by putting their asses out on the street and see how easy life is.
Johnny,Strawther, That's an idea I can get behind. Stop giving free government health care and welfare to the rich in congress! These congressional socialists! They don't mind socialism when it's money in their pockets! Those government benefits are AOK when they are the ones getting them!
But, Oh no, lose it for the elderly and the poor who actually need it!
Cantor.....Puke
Palin.....puke....
nug-head.....barf. barf. barf.
Don't vote for anything that has a R ( Republicon) behind their name, VOTE THEM OUT!! let them lose some of their Benefits, and have a loss of some of their Income, Let"s get them before they get us, Back the Truck up this Nov
Let's make this connection. Scott Walker began attacking citizens and groups that did not vote for him. Guess what, the Republican Party is doing the same thing. Think about it. They are attacking women and the working poor, the same people who will not vote for Mitt. I also find it interesting that Mitt Romney's team is not meeting with anyone in the black community, yet no one is talking about it, WHY???????
"They are attacking women and the working poor,"Complete poppycock!
Woman still have their abortions and birth control. Their is no war! Ryan's budget projects to be 20% of GDP, and Obama's is at 22 %. Give the informed world a break, please !
The only war is Obama's war on the country. If you care about the working poor, stop taking payroll taxes out of their checks!
2012 DEJA VU 1995
In 1995, Newt got 73 new Barbarians in the house.
All Anti -government. 1500 floor votes. Passed 88 bills lowest since 1933 “do nothing” congress.
Congressional Quarterly ranked it worst since 1933. It was a battle between the 73 Barbarians and Moderate Republicans. Many were defeated in next election. Then. Good things occurred with Newt-Clinton in charge. Except repeal Glass Steagall and Modernization Commodity Markets. Senator Phil Gramn bills.
Why do we continue to allow Wall Street to be a one on one Gambling House?
No stake in a commodity yet bet for/against it.
Brazil and Argentina blamed Glass Steagall for high food prices few years ago.
They accused GS of buying tons of Grain and holding to sell when price went up.
Same with Oil today. Buy huge quantities hold to sell at hi price.
Verified by testimony of Exxon CEO in Congress hearings this week.
He said that under free market supply/demand price today of oil would be between $50 and $70 a barrel not current $98. That would be $2.00 to $2.80 gas. Speculators cheer. We leer.
Greece officials said part of their demise was Casino Derivative Of America.
Their wealthy people invested in Housing Derivatives and other gambling such as interest rate
increases.
This is so dumb of us. Farmers/airlines/others insure against future hikes in commodities that could bankrupt them.
NO STAKE=NO BET=JAIL
We must stop this total stupidity. WSA owns us. 10% own 73% net wealth and 83% FINANCIAL Wealth plus take 50% of individual income.
Will we learn? We have been bought.
SOLUTION
Fed fund election-6 months-3 primary 3 general debate a week =adequate exposure to evaluate candidates-----no $$$$--O=none=less than 1
Since members of Congress no longer need to raise campaign funds keep them on the job not on the road. Ban them receiving anything with a financial value.
Progress Flat Tax by group
Stop hundreds of millions spent loading our tax book with preferences
This closes K Street Bribery of our government
Burn Tax Book and start anew.
This will balance our budget and start paying down Republican Debt
clarence swinney-political historian-lifeaholics of america—burlington nc
Please, Ed, report on the drive-by ALEC legislation Bobby Jindal is forcing on Louisianans. Over the last two weeks, Jindal has virtually decapitated public education in Louisiana with voucher legislation; these vouchers are intended for Christian and "privatized" schools. Yes, education needs help in LA, but this legislation will not help the neediest, who, by the way, will NEVER be accepted into the creme de la creme schools.
Further, last week and this week, Jindal is attacking teachers' pensions, a la Scott Walker; other public servants will be next. He must be stopped! There is now a RECALL BOBBY JINDAL petition circulating around the state. Please help these teachers and other hard working people protect their rights. Get the news out!
Vote out all r
Republican and BLUE dogs demo out of office state and goverment office.
Vote out everyone with a R candinadate out of state and federal office.
" Step up and protect the poor", translaed : Keep them poor, destitute, dependent, and stupid so they vote for Democrats.
$ 15 Trillion and counting ! How's that war on poverty working ?
House Minority Leader, Boehner and the House Agricultural Committee hope to burp-up budget money from Food Stamp cuts.
Grocery store owners and the food industry know that tax money towards State, Federal and Military assistance-connected Food Stamps is not hurting the economy, or their businesses. It appears grocery store owners and food industry workers need to watch out for their jobs and businesses, as well as, for the hungry in their communities, where the Republican House Agricultural Committee’s recently proposed bill cutting Food Stamps is concerned.
The poor, the working and non-working, those collecting assistance or half-collecting assistance, generate billions of dollars in our over 10 trillion cost-of-products-and-services bought and sold across America as consumers, and part of that includes, giving tax money back to the economy through Food Stamps.
Why would the GOP would hope to-burp up budget money after giving that tax money to somebody else, some other group, to something else, or some other businesses or government agenda while collecting the ‘same’ amount of taxes from taxpayers, anyway?
If this political overreach amounts to the GOP’s exploiting the accusation that only a Democratic agenda will support any kind of assistance this campaign period, perhaps, people’s fears that the GOP is after destroying Social Security through the Ryan plan, are legitimate.