The GOP "war on women" is over! Hold it, I'm being told now that it never existed.
Republican National Chairman Reince Priebus says that "war on women" you've been hearing about is a Democratic fabrication perpetuated by the media, as fictional as a "war on caterpillars."
"If the Democrats said we had a war on caterpillars and every mainstream media outlet talked about the fact that Republicans have a war on caterpillars, then we’d have problems with caterpillars," Priebus said in an interview with Bloomberg Television’s Political Capital with Al Hunt that will air this weekend. "The fact of the matter is, it's a fiction."
In reality, GOP war on women has greatly intensified the last few months, essentially aimed at restricting reproductive rights. How Priebus missed it is beyond comprehension.
Of course, the analogy was so strange, it allowed Priebus to avoid Hunt's question, which was how the GOP is going to close a "huge, huge margin for Democrats among women voters."
Ed will have a lot more to say about this tonight on The Ed Show at 8pET on MSNBC.
Meantime, this guy really has no business using analogies to make political points.
In January, Priebus called President Barack Obama "our own little Capt. Schettino" for "abandoning the ship here in the United States. He’s more interested in campaigning than doing his job as president."
Francesco Schettino, as you'll recall, was the captain who fled the Costa Concordia after cruise ship went aground Off Isola del Giglio, Tuscany in Italy. 30 people were killed and two more remain missing.
The chairman of the Republican National Committee compared President Obama to the Italian cruise ship captain who is charged with manslaughter. MSNBC's Melissa Harris Perry and Professor James Peterson join Ed Schultz to examine the increasingly extreme attacks on the President from the Right (Jan. 30, 2012).
Schettino denies charges of manslaughter, causing a shipwreck and abandoning ship before all those aboard were evacuated.
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They kill caterpillars, don't they? Perhaps they should use a different analogy.
Then again..perhaps it wasn't so far off.
Priebus Is A Boner !!! He Lives In The Fantasy Land Of The Tea-baggin'-gop !!!!!!
Too bad, women already know where they stand with the gop, so I think us girls are able to make up our own minds. They can call it the way they see it. We will call it the way we see it. I see it as a total disregard of women's rights. I guess we women will have to form our own group of rebellion. We may go rogue....
I guess they think just because Mitt blows any way the wind blows, women will too and it won't be too long until we believe the good, old Republicans again. Wrong Reincey, we're not as stupid as male Repubs. Our memories are much, much longer. And you boys will pay for all this cr@p on Nov 6th.
why are dems. blaming reps. for the shooting as zimmerman is a registered democrat?
reps kill caterpillars? i guess the dems party eagerness to kill special needs babies is better? dems. chiding sarah palin and santorium for not killing their special needs babies is pathetic. maher and some on msnbc making fun of santoriums special needs baby is a new low in politics. perhaps the rep. party should start saying the dem party has a war on special needs babies.
More moronic politicization of a completely non political event Ed and Hannity would be proud.
And these instances you cite would be....???........Bill Maher has never been a representative for the democratic party sense he's a comedian. More importantly as I see you haven't noticed the dems are running wild with the very easy selling of this war on women not because of what people on fox are saying but because of what Republicans are doing
perhaps if you could find hundreds of bills put out written by democratic congressmen and state legislators which could be easily identified as being expressions of the dems innate desire to kill the deformed as you alleged that might work..........happy hunting.......just advice you probably won't to quit before you start because non one is going ot buy that
you know part of the trap the republicans are whole heatedly jumping into is their denial that forced ultrasounds, changing the legal definition of rape, defending women's health clinics, contraception have nothing to do with women. Perhaps if they would admit that these things their party alone is pursuing which have no effect on jobs or economy that they said they were going to deal with actually intersect with women's lives they might have better luck..........having no public respected leadership that isn't white and male further compounds their problem.
maher gives 1 million to obama super pac, his show on hbo is all political he gives fundraisersfor democrats. but he puts on a red nose says. im a comedian so i have the right to knock special needs babies. as you have no problem with that, it says alot about you. by the way obamas super pac refuses to give back mahers money so they obviously have no problem with what he said. maher now is attacking santoriums kids. rush joked about chelsea years ago, i sent him an email saying i would never listen to him again. kids should be off limits. lawrence odonnell of pmsnbc stated he has no problems with special needs babies being aborted, then said sarah was using her baby to try to get votes. now i ask you will you continue to watch maher and msnbc?
yes and you've still predictably failed to show the democratic party as a whole wants to kill all the deformed
I discussed some real legislation all coming solely from republicans where are the democratic actual legislative pushes
Bill Maher doesn't represent any political party unless you're also saying Rush represents the GOP and since as you just outlined has also made negative comments guess that would mean both parties want to abort all the deformed...........which by the way is completely legal whether anyone likes that or not.....
You know who made that legal? The Supreme Court not any politicians.
The Maher campaign contribution is another of your laughable points you should be smart enough to know that no campaign will ever return money if they legally don't have to. More importantly how do know they are showing support for all the things Bill Maher has ever said or done. So what he gives money and now obama believes all the same things bill does instantly for the rest of time on everything
What about the white supremacists who HAVE endorsed GOP candidates. Didn't see any grand standy denouncement of that endorsement. Guess that must instantly make all republicans white supremacists then..........yeah right.....ha
You might want to go back and notice how I made my analysis on what a party supports from the legislation introduced from actual politicians within that party. Where are these bills that equal to the ones the GOP has launched on women's health across the country.........and come back on that till you can find couple dozen since there have been hundreds floating around the tea party controlled legislatures across the country. If you really believe you can get people to believe what your saying go and try and lets see how well that works out. That's all I'm saying.
Caterpillars: Small, insignificant things, soft and easy to walk over or step on.
Is that how they see us?
but they also forget that most caterpillars also turn in to beautiful butter fly's.
but then again critical thinking is not their strong or weak suit.
INDIA, They should of compared us to Bumble Bees, Or Hornets. We will sting there behinds come November. They can try to say anything to cover there behinds but we are listing and here every word they said . Romney has continued to say he will do away with health care and Planned Parent hood . I would call that all out war against women !!!!!
I heard a female activist say "If you screw us, we multiply!"
Good point.....I would say that, and I'm a female activist..... Keep it up and they won't be screwing us.
Caterpillars are notorious for smoking hookahs, being know-it-alls and flighty dispositions! No wonder Republicans hate them!
Or was that in Alice in Wonderland? They're all a bunch of cards anyway! Mostly Jokers...
Yes, and us girls didn't fall down the rabbit hole either!
Yes sadly some of our republican american friends do seem to live in imagination land
Caterpillars is made in MN and still make in MN. They move some of the company over sea for cheap labor and how they brought it back but not in MN put in a right to work state cheap labor. Caterpillars made this all by themselves for greed.
Palm- you should write your posts before going to happy hour.
Palm is just showing how ridiculous the gop blabber is.
Thankful Mom, you need to used the Harley Davison analogy of "If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand' on Rusty.
Wow- too funny!!! I never thought I would see the day when these blogs would be used to show "how ridiculous" something else was. Pot- meet kettle...
I thought this was funny, sorry for the trolls didn't get it.
You discussed Cat- didn't they just bring back jobs that were foreign sourced? You are correct, I think, in that they came back to Indiana- from Canada- Muncie, I believe. In 2012.
And didn't they bring more back in 2011 to Victoria Texas from Japan?
Palm = THEY Never Will Get It = THEY Are Just Far Toooo Purposefully Ignorant !!!!!!
This guy was Scott Walker's very own Campaign manager. I don't think he has a clue!
Now they compare women to caterpillars, will it never stop. I want this man to go to every state where they are passing the ridiculous laws and decide if they have went to far! He Is out of touch as Romney and is clueless !!!
OH NO!!!!
we will now have MAN on Caterpillars!!!
LOL sorry,,,
This man is Scott Walkers very own campaign manager. His claim to fame. How lucky we get to listen to him nationally now!
Mary, Welcome to the blog. Thank you for letting us know this. That really says allot about this man. Hes a windbag like Walker and Is not to be trusted! They will say or do any thing. They want to spread propaganda and confuse the people! We are behind you here in Ohio to throw Walker out of office. Keep up the fight !!!
Yeah Reince if we allowed caterpillars to use contraceptives there would be no more butterfly's and then we could accuse you of a war on butterfly's.Really smart thinking Reince,you da man.
8 deleted, Joe American Patriot with:
Actually got on-topic from there, but banned - don't attack Mr. Schultz personally in his online home.
So what do the republicans have against caterpillars?
Priebus is such a weaselly spinner of misinformation.
Truth in advertising needs to extend to political ads. Like that exon ads saying the xl pipeline will create hundreds of thousands jobs. Just not the truth.
I know - a bit of a ramble.
Don't you just love those comparisons? I really don't get the Schettino analogy, but Obama and the Dems are sure opening themselves up to all kinds of criticism. This year is going to be so much fun!
Ed just played Obama describing the damage his party has done to this country since they took the House! Wow, can't you guys see that? Thank Ed! You guys need to start listenin'!
I don't see Obama abandoning ship, do you? Just askin'
Lucci don't waste your time on Kapt Klutz, after all he thinks George Bush was a great leader and Rick perry is the best gov we ever had.
UniteWomen.org’s Response to Reince Preibus:
Mr. Preibus,
The Republicans are claiming that the War on Women is fabricated by President Obama and the Democrats as a political tactic to gain women voters. You state that this War is as fictitious as a war on Caterpillars.
Are you claiming that President Obama and the Democrats forced the U.S. House of Representatives to put forth over 400 bills since January, 2010 attacking our reproductive rights?
Are you claiming that President Obama and the Democrats forced all of the GOP Presidential candidates to sign the Personhood Pledge and vowing to eliminate Planned Parenthood?
Are you claiming that President Obama and the Democrats forced Rush Limbaugh to call women who use birth control sluts?
Are you claiming that President Obama and the Democrats forced the Republicans in the Senate to vote against the Violence Against Women Act for the first time since it’s enactment in 1994?
Are you claiming that President Obama and the Democrats forced Republicans to filibuster the Paycheck Fairness Act?
Are you claiming that President Obama and the Democrats forced Republican run States to introduce legislation to force women to have a trans-vaginal probe against their will and pay for it?
Are you claiming that President Obama and the Democrats forced Republican run States to cut their budgets in not only health, but also K-12 and higher education that will disproportionately impact women?
Are you claiming that President Obama and the Democrats forced Paul Ryan to cut Social Security and turn Medicare into a voucher system that would disproportionately impact women?
We Caterpillars had no idea President Obama and the Democrats had such power and control over Republicans!
All Caterpillars unite on April 28th across the country to fight this war on women’s rights!
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Question for you rabid teavangelical righties out there: the republican party as a whole has decided to brand itself as wanting smaller government yet they also believe that government should be able to decide what moral sexual choices you have the ability to make............that women should be forced to have a procedure that they don't want because of politics not medical advice..........that contraception is somehow a political or controversial issue. Remember it was Newt Gingrich who started the whole birth control blah blah bs in one of his "hey I'm still alive pay attention to me" type comments by claiming having businesses owned by the church be accountable to business law an assault on all religion(applying christian only of course) everywhere..............
Look at republican moves in states like Virginia which focuses solely on what most women believe is an assault on their access to health services they need for their womanhood
the constant chant about defunding planned parenthood
the fact were still talking about abortion, birth control, and women's health even though the GOP claims it does not want to talk about it......just think of Rick Santorum and his "how dare you ask me about things I'm constantly talking about without being asked on the campaign trail" routine
So how do you not see that women don't care to hear about these issues, that independents and most everyone else don't care to re litigate these issues?
Why should state legislators be able to force someone to have a procedure they don't need and or don't want to have a legal medical procedure?
Why do the gop politicians jump and shout at the idea of defunding planned parenthood but they don't believe we should stop oil subsidies?
Can you see how many women might feel that the GOP isn't concerned about what they want as much as their corporate donors?
how do you not get that?
Not enough time or energy to respond to everything that is thrown at the wall in order to see what sticks, but...
I do agree that we ought to just stay out of the relationship parameters. If 2 consenting adults, F-F, M-M or M-F want to interact in a private way- as a conservative, I am ok with it and the government ought to stay out of it.
Life needs to be protected- even the unborn. For those who would then claim that we don't care after they are born- well, 1) they are wrong, and 2) even if they were right, killing an innocent life because of the fear that it might not be loved later is not a valid or logical response. Maybe it should be said that Democrats have waged war on the unborn? Now, in reality, that would not be true- but it would be equal to what Dems are now claiming.
That's all I have the energy for tonight- but it ought to sir the stupids up...
Rusty, there you go again, projecting your religious beliefs as facts. Don’t you understand that the majority of us do NOT agree with your religions’ beliefs? You ask us to respect your beliefs yet you do not respect ours. We insist that our beliefs be respected. Read, Article I of the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution. You are trying to have laws passed establishing your religious beliefs superior to mine.
Even if I agreed with your beliefs, I would oppose these laws for trying to impose one religion as superior to another. Once you open this door that holds one religion superior to another, watch out. What if a majority decided to suppress the Catholic Church, then it would be possible following the precedence set by this type of law.
As far as using taxes for something you don’t support, sorry that doesn’t hold water. I and many others have to pay taxes for wars we don’t support.
Article I of the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Whether you agree with abortion or not it is 100% legal procedure so if one wishes to change I'm curious what logic you can offer that having an unwanted or unnecessary procedure which doesn't change the access to abortion is necessary
what if I decide all women who want breast implants need to take a course on self esteem? That's kind of the precedent that's being set here which is poignant because the GOP constantly chants about how they want less government, smaller government seems like they too wish to grow the governments power
Sadly we all know there are few conservatives being listened to by the party leadership like you Rusty that private relationship matters should be private aka not government's choice
I'll take your dodge as an admission that the GOP has in fact made a number of moves which whether they have intended to do that or not would make it more difficult for women to excercise their legal reproductive rights...........all these things will affect women alone and all have been proposed by GOP legislators thus the branding here should be easy to see............here's stop talking about it if you really don't want to talk about it
Does that include Trayvon Martin?
Come now Chris really? Not cute.
Chris- if your assertion is that Trayvon Martin wasn't loved by his family, I am unfamiliar with that aspect of the case. The other possibility is htat you're just being stupid...
As for bringing out the stupids, I guess it worked. No where am I stating it is anything other than my beliefs any more than you are stating the opposite. As well, I am not stating you have to agree with me. Obviously, I know that the law of the land, set by the same court system that will be criticized if they overturn Obamacare.
Interestingly- we do take the religious belief of not murdering or steal and convert it into law. So, your concept of these beliefs (as superior to others) not belonging in society has no merit.
And- in a further out in left field response yet- where am I discussing taxes at all. You've taken a response by me, started it out with a "There you go again"- and, well, there YOU go again. Most of what you are saying has nothing to do with what my response was.
Right you tea bagging republicans are just harmless pacifists and you want the right to stand your ground because your guns fire flowers and not bullets. ROFLMAO
The same people who are talking about "protecting every life" are the same people applauding George Zimmerman for killing Trayvon Martin.
I thought you got that.
TRC === OH Swaaat !!!! Nice One !!!!! THEY JUST Cannot Fathom What THEY Are Even Standing Up For !!!!!!! GOMERS !!!!!!! Perhaps HE Is Actually The Mittster In Disguise !!????????? The Depths Are DEEP = Even In Shallow Water !!!!!!
Chris- while you are addressing CC, I will just state that I don't know of anyone that applauded Zimmerman for killing Martin. I understand that it makes your story so much better if you sensationalize it in this manner, but it also makes you stupid if you believed whoever told you that or a liar if you just made it up. Kind of like the war on women. Or the war on the middle class. Or the war on (fill in the blank).
I don't really want to fill you in, Rusty.
I'd rather just leave you blank.
Rusty...
If it doesn't fit into their leftist agenda, they don't want to hear it. Cases in point..CNN announcing that the races slur that everyone heard on the tape is not really a racial slur and ABC producing a higher quality analysis of the video from the police department which shows that Zimmerman did in deed have injuries to his head.
How many of the people on this board have you seen retract any of their inflammatory comments....ZERO.
Facts are nothing more than an inconvenience for most Democrats.
Facts are nothing more than a rumor for conservatives.
Chris, Storm and anyone else you're all morons for trying to link up this Trayvon Martin case with any thing political.......just another reason why I believe the continued media sensationalism of this case has been damaging and is not necessary.
It's interesting how a case which has zero political links or motivations can be lumped up into some attack on those who one disagrees with. Now because of the elite media on Fox and Msnbc this too is now a party line issue, if you're on the right you have to defend George Zimmerman and call Trayvon Martin an overgrown black thug out to cause trouble and if you want to be on the left George Zimmerman is the grand dragon of the KKK who sets out on daily hunts of black people.....................
Trying to use a refference to this tragedy to try and get a zinger against someone who you politically disagree with was not necessary. It is like RNC chairman trying to joke about Obama being like the captain of the costa concordia cruise ship, it is not clever nor funny. If you want to insult conservatives just don't try and use someone else's public personal tragedy to do it.
I thought you got that. Clearly I was mistaken.
Guess common sense is no more than a pipe dream in an election year..........
because no one will criticize the court if they don't.................
neither of these things are religious in nature based on the fact that they are part of every human socuety in history thus this reveals them to be the universal recognition of the pillars are essential for a society to exist. However this is a miscategorization of the comment regarding placing one religion over another since clearly we have a civilized society while having legal abortion thus it clealry can not be identified as necessary to ban. Consider that not all people religiously believe abrotion should be illegal or that it is murder should these people be prohibited from doing since their belief does not forbid it......and before you comment about how people who do believe abortion is murder having to live in a society where it is legal and identify that as hindering their beliefs keep in mind that if one believes abortion is murder one need not have an abortion. You don't to have if you don't want one!
I'm a moron, eh? I guess that makes you a pompous, effete, psuedointellectual.
Save your lectures for those who read them.
Chris- Of everything CC said- I actually agree with much of it. Especially the part you took offense to. I think he was right. I've yet to see an ounce of creative thought from you.
CC- the Court will be criticized if they don't. Just by the other side. Such is the nature of these things.
I have no illusion of ever being able to change the law of the land on abortion. But- that doesn't mean that I have to agree that we should fund it.
Oooh sorry I hurt feelings there Chris but I'm someone who says that we need more civil public discourse and actually means it. Sorry I don't think it is appropriate, clever, funny or necessary to try to talk about the killing of someone as a way to fight one's political opponents. No one even so much as brought up this case until you did and why? Because it has nothing to do with the topic is. You could have discussed how the far right supports things like the death penalty or war with iran or other nations and bring up on how that conflicts with their claim of being "pro-life". You could have done that quite effectively without having to bring the trayvon martin thing up.
Forgive if I don't think people should continue to portray this case as some partisan issue snow ball that you can just roll up and throw at people. This snow ball you picked up actually had a clear rock in it, there was plenty of metaphorical snow without rocks you could have thrown, you chose not to do that. What's so wrong with saying people shouldn't try to use this case for anything political?
Except the law of the land as it stands is that no federal money can legally be used to fund abortion. The money PP is only used for non abortion services, and if it isn't that needs to stop because it's against the law
I'm glad you two pompous hypocrites found each other.
cc-Interesting that you think calling someone a moron for a remark that wasn't even directed at you is civil discourse.
Rusty-I don't try to be creative. I leave that up to you. I'm more interested in being factual.
Enjoy posturing and posing for each other. You deserve it.
CC- I realize that is the current law. However- let's say there are 3 possible changes/non-changes. 1) Roe V Wade struck down in total or significant manner, 2) Funding for abortion services provided for (whether back door funding or a law change), or 3) no change at all.
As I've stated, the chance for 1) to occur is slim and none. As progressives (we used to call them liberals, but they've marketed themselves to a different name) take power, incremental changes occur, making 2) a real possibility if the opponents are not diligent. Leaving 3) as the best viable option we can hope for.
As an example, just look to the current dispute over required BC pills. Personally, I don't care if they are provided for or not. As I recall, they are not very expensive and lots of generics are available. I understand that a religious organization that is against the use would not want to provide them. I also understand there is no free lunch, so forcing the insurance company to provide them free just means that rates will increase on everyone. But- the point here is BC was often not provided for in insurance plans, and was gradually added to many plans. It is now being looked at as a "right" to have them provided. The same could happen to 2) above.
Nothing provided buy an insurance company you have a plan with is free.............that's because you are already paying them. Rusty you're equating no co pay with free. No co pay is not free.
CC- I know that. One of the really amusing things has been the whole discussion on BC. It isn't expensive- whether covered or not.
And- you need to realize- once again- I'll state I'm not against a socialized health care, or any other benefit. If society as a whole wants something, and they are willing to pay for it, then they should have it. My problem is when the natural element of me wanting something, but wanting you to pay for it. If we want socialized health care- then figure out what extent of services should be provided, figure out the total commerce level of the country, do some math and put a national sales tax that would provide for that service. If, as is claimed, the cost of health care goes down, then lower the sales tax. If it goes up faster than commerce, then raise the sales tax. Everyone will have some incentive to reduce the total cost.
Alright. So then we agree that it would not be free........so here's where I'm having a hard time trying to understand what you're going toward here.....I'm saying that the bc wouldn't actually be free just no co pay so this why I'm saying your, or what seems to be your, idea that it is giving away something for free to be false
I'm making no comments about the health care system in general or socialized medicine........I'm not advocating for it. I simply contend that to say that this would be giving away something for free is not correct. That is all.
They are nuts - GOP/TP
The fictional "war on women" is fictional and used as a distraction by the left because they know it is the only hope for their man Obama. How stupid are the people who actually believe that Republicans are waging a war on women? I would say it is equally stupid to say that the left is waging a war on white men.
Surely you can see how the republican generated birth control controversy, forced ultrasound procedure laws, all this defunds women health clinic focus makes it very easy for people to brand the GOP as not caring about what women want in terms of their reproductive choices
no one has forced he party to play up all these alleged controversies or bring up these issues. The republicans keep claiming they don't care about social issues and then keep bringing them up. Maybe the GOP leadership should listen to the real GOP people who obviously don't have a war on women but it would seem their leaders...well do......have a rather considerable amount of focus on that
As soon as the GOP politicians stop talking about these things and stops giving examples people can throw on television this will go away......problem is they continue to do just the opposite.
Nikki Haley is right women don't care about contraception that's why the people shouldn't have brought it up. This whole the republican party is having is mostly because Newt Gingrich who got them started on this whole bs path
MikeD, did you wear your 'wife beater' shirt today? So the war on women by the teabaggers is fictitious 'eh? Latest poll show that women in swing states, you know, the states that any president has to win to get elected, indicates 60% for the president and 33% for Robme so it sure looks to me and every other sane person in this country that women do consider the teabagger policies as a DEFINIT war on women. See ya at the polls ladies!
I love Ed's "objective" poll questions. LOL.
Maybe his next question should be: "do you think Obama is really God?"
98% of you morons on this site woudl say yes! Guarantee it.
calling people morons will get you in trouble here just FYI
I wonder what we would say to "Is Rush Limbaugh intelligent?"
RC- I think CC was referencing his description of you...
Saying most of the users here are morons without actually engaging in a meaningful discussion in a post breaks the honor code. If you wnat to use stronger language you need to back that up with logic or facts and not just more insults. If you come on here and just make post to call other users stupid you're not going to be here for long
Yes I called Chris a moron for something he said but I backed up my words with legitimate thoughts. Having said that I know the less realize that this could be potentially bad but because I felt and continue to feel so strongly about the position I discussed frankly I don't care about the consequences, I said what I meant because I believe it needed to be said and I won't back down from that.
If that gets me banned so be it but I have no regrets
If you can live with being a superficial hypocrite, so can I.
I believe your rationalization comes under the heading of "It's OK when I do it."
But you keep making up rules for the rest of us to follow.
Chris with the sterotypical liberal whine. When I used the word moron I was reffering to your choice to try to turn a tragedy into some political zinger like Newt Gingrich seeks to do. I'm sorry that so hurts you're feelings and now I do regret because clearly you've decided to latch solely on to that and not actually consider anything I said..........you don't want tobe called a moron leave life and death tragedies which don't involve politics out of political debate
this person here to call people stupid for no other reason than to call people because they disagree with him. Call me crazy but I don't at all object to strong language when there is a rationale and point or intention behind it.
I'm with thankful mom and those female activists! I'm all for that multiplication. They're so busy trying to control the reproductive areas, they totally forget women can think for themselves, and will stick together for the most part, at the ballot box!
We the people need to replace the current “do nothing” in the Senate and the House with strong women like Elizabeth Warren and others. I guarantee this country will once again be placed on the right track for success and prosperity for all. What gives the Republicans the right to dictate what is right for women health? Hell! They can’t do their on job, now they want to tell a woman and her doctor what best for her health. They say it is not a war against women … but what else can it be passing over 400 bills against women rights. We the voters are not stupid.
CNN has now said that the supposed racial slur on the 911 tape was in fact a comment about the cold weather. I wonder where all the outrage from the left is.
The news media isn't wasting time pretending that they can make a difference on that and thus are letting the natural justice process which was helped along in part by public attention but now is simply distracting
surely you're not suggesting that is a bad thing
The media sure didn't have a problem trying to "make a difference" when they thought they were going to be able to paint this as a racist attack by a crazy neighborhood watch leader who was carrying a gun. Now that the evidence is proving more and more that this MIGHT not be the case, they seem to have a problem is reporting the facts that don't support their agenda.
Let me take that back, CNN and ABC have been upfront to admit their mis-reportings. However, NBC, MSNBC, Odonnell and Schultz are strangely quiet given how much attention they paid to these particular issues when they first came out. ,
Self appointed neighborhood watch non leader because he was the only one in his group. Sorry but your facts are fact free. Neighborhood watch is not law enforcement nor do they have authority to chase or confront suspects unless said suspect is caught in the act of a crime, walking down the side walk talking on the phone looking around is not a crime nor is it a crime to look high on drugs a crime. So again the only thing you got is a guy with a gun driving around looking for trouble and playing cop, which is against the law.
Welcome back from your suspension WHOM, you were missed......NOT!
Actually, driving around with a gun is not against the law.
There is no proof that Zimmerman at any time ever tried to detain Zimmerman.
Zimmerman had as much legal right to be on the sidewalk as Martin did, if in fact Martin was on the sidewalk.
The only testimony so far places Martin not on the sidewalk when first viewed, but closer to the buildings.
It might not be a crime to look high on drugs, but it does give an observer reasonable concern about the actions of that person.
There is no legal requirement that a neighborhood watch program be set up in conjunction with the local police department. Any person can become a neighborhood watch program on their own.
ALL OF THOSE ARE FACTS....like them or not.
Come now really that really was rather childish, come on I know your smarter than that
Well since it appears the investigators never actually investigated I'm not sure this is exactly the case......frankly there's no proof of anything that's why there is some outrage since clearly there should be evidence to back up at least one side of the story there is not
Yes assuming he was just walking minding his own business which common sense and the facts seem to suggest that he was not. There is reason to question some parts of Zimmerman's story, an investigation is not without merit
Many would argue that following someone around when you're not any kind of city official might give another person reasonable concern about the intentions of the person following them..........again whether or not the stalking around behavior here and whether that can legally be cause for concern for one's safety should also be thought of in this case
Actually I'm fairly certain that is part of the definition of what a real and official neighborhood watch program is. So you can play neighborhood watch and not have any police advice or liason but you would not actually be part of neighborhood watch, officially
How did Priebus Get the GOP job? I thought he was still working for Andy in Mayberry.
They felt Barney was smarter.
Can they insult our intelligence, integrity or dignity ANY MORE? America "the beacon of democracy", the worldly model of a "human rights based society"! What a laughing stock we have become. Not only do we not provide these rights for our own peoples, but they are wasting our tax dollars (and human lives) spreading this "joy" to other countries? What a joke, this GOP's war on women - YES - it is a WAR ON WOMEN - you can tell me that night is day, but I'm not going to believe what is the obvious. Sorry - we are not stupid! We do not think with our vagina's. I'm actually hoping there is a silver lining in this and WE FINALLY brings about the third - and hopefully final wave - of feminism to truly gain EQUAL RIGHTS!
I read last night an article last night listing the "10 best fields for women to enter". First, a doctor or SURGEON. Yeah, that sounds like a great place to start - until I read what they should expect to make. Women surgeons make $85,000 a year according to this study - and - this was our TOP paying field! I spoke to a male nurse today who has been in the field for forty years and makes $65K. His jaw dropped. Neither he, or I, can think of one male surgeon that makes less than at least double that. Not only our the salary statistics way off - last year it stated we allegedly made something in the league of 76 cents to a man's dollar. Problem is - I do not know any woman, at any place I have ever worked, that has made even close to 50 cents to a man's dollar.
It does seem the GOP (an the corporations they represent) have a confused agenda, and I'm not sure what mixed messages they are sending us and what exactly they want from this war they now wage. Is there a benefit in keeping us uneducated, pregnant (yearly) and out of the job market, leaving more employment for men? Ironically, this is counter productive to the usual agenda of the corporations best interest. Paying us pennies on a dollar, not granting us equal pay for equal work, no benefits, no "Norma Ray's" on the horizon, but, the icing on this big messy cake - they do not want to have anything to do with supporting all these babies they want us to bear once they are here! With privatization of schools, charging women double from everything from hair cuts to health care but not paying us even a living wage? Breeding is a very profitable market for doctors - and a very real reason why they tried to drive my midwives out of business. The defunding of social programs that feed, house and provide health care for all these little bundles of joy that we poor women can not support but that "big government" wants - but does not exist when it comes to meeting their needs for the next 24 years - just keep 'em coming. Is there that great a shortage of adoptable white babies for rich couples that they are now going to turn poor women's uterus's into factory production providing them with babies which their barren wombs (or sterile husbands) can no longer provide themselves? Or - maybe they just don't want anything to do with the whole messy business of childbearing: puking all day, heartburn, stretch marks and heaven forbid, weight gain? Let the poor eat cake and do the messy work, pushing 'em out within an inch of OUR lives to then hand them over the fruits of OUR wombs all nice and clean as they wear their size 2's? Or have their wives waited too long working on their high powered careers (which women of that class have the benefit of) that they now need to turn poor women's bodies into baby factories to provide them with a selection of marketable newborns - and so they can also avoid years of waiting periods and all that pesky red tape? The stuff of science fiction movies which I laughed off only decades ago - but eerily seemed as precautionary as George Orwell's 1984 - a grain of truth in my gut in reaction to this so-called fiction. But sorry haters - yes, we ARE caterpillars. And we will not be your rented wombs and wet nurses - those days are over. We are not "slimy" creatures who crawl for you - we are BUTTERFLIES Priebus - who are beautiful, colorful, resourceful and - will not be caged! You can pull our student loans, try to control our right to birth control (and then you men might realize "abstinence"!), pull our health care, pay us poverty wages, but we WILL still fly! Vagina is CLOSED, our wings are open....
Caterpillars - SHED YOUR SKIN! (this sounds as good a marching order as any! I myself have never used planned parenthood for birth control, but have at least a dozen times for affordable, high quality, empathetic, women based health care-as I could not afford the $250-$500 plus dollars it would have cost me to see walk through the door of an ob/gyn!. This country is now a proponent, not a protector, of male on female violence, anti ERA (that's Equal Rights Amendment for all you young 'uns who were not yet a zygote when we were fighting for equal pay for equal work decades ago - and if there's ever been a time to fight for this again, it IS now. So, you aspiring surgeons - the "best' we women supposedly can do - who will not be able to even pay your student loans, no less your medical malpractice insurance on THAT salary, a country who is rolling back ALL progress we have made managing our own health and reproductive rights (Margaret Sanger must be rolling in her grave). I can go on, and on (and on). Anyone who really BELONGS here KNOW'S the crimes against women and the war that is waging. Ironically, the GOP is "worried' ABOUT Sharia law being passed in this country for them. Again, a double standard. It appears they are working on a binary process when it comes to that - one for them (as usual), and Sharia law for us. The only thing it seems that they haven't tried to legislate yet is burkas - but, if you get raped, if you're not wearing one, don't be surprised when you're told you were probably "asking for it". They must think we think with our vagina's the way most of them think with their penis's. Guess again, guys. This is the impetus WE women have needed - complacency has become the norm for far too long. WE have needed a nudge, and the GOP has awaken this sleeping giant - and you have created the "perfect storm".
And, by the way - for all the fools that take your time to post your unintelligible, irrational, red neck logic "from the bubble" here. Why do you "waste" your time not only watching these programs, which you obviously are incapable of understanding and openly despise - but then you actually take the time to comment? You must know we pass right over them, as you stand right out before we get half way through the first sentence, but personally, I wouldn't waste a precious minute of my time watching pseudo-journalism like faux. I find it interesting that not only do you take your time to watch, but you actually take your time to write. Although we don't appreciate your posts, we are not open to ideas, it's just that most of us our primarily fact based and we just can't get beyond that (nor can we debate arguments that are biased and not based in reality). But - I do appreciate the fact you are actually watching - and that one day, there's a chance you might find your mind opening. Hey, Ariana Huffington was once "the enemy" - now she's one of our champions! Keep watching - you just might find you've learned something...
i put this up without an edit - please excuse me. They don't give you much time to fix or delete comments - sorry it's so sloppy....
youre saying its ok to kill a bab y cause of low cash flow astounds me. saying male nurses makes more per hour than female nurses is a lie. men make more cause they work more hours by overtime. some female nurses are single and have children and work less hours taking care of them. where i worked we would be asked to stay over and work overtime. some women couldnt cause they had to pick up kids at daycare.dont get me wrong i admire single mothers with jobs and being the only provider. but facts are facts. is it possible women surgeons do less surguries hence making less money? they like nurses have kids too. the fact that women have babys must be taken into the equation. by the way show me any city town county or state where a women is denied bc. fluke saying it cost 90$ is a lie. walmart walgreens and many others charge 9$ a month. notice she stop doing tv apperances when this fact was revealed. getting pregnant is a choice outside of rape. are you saying all corporations run by democrats have equal pay for women? if you think im callous let me tell you if i owned a business ide hire more women than men. im a male and i have seen women take their job more seriously . bottom line is the reason men make more than woman is men work more hours. all labor statistics show this to be true.
Deb- I wouldn't believe in the absoluteness of everything I read if I were you. Not for sure that women are graduating to surgeon's positions at $85k per year. And, if they are, I would imagine the rate of increase would be rather swift and steep.
You have a specific agenda, and editing wasn't the issue.
Can they insult our intelligence, integrity or dignity ANY MORE? America "the beacon of democracy", the worldly model of a "human rights based society"! What a laughing stock we have become. Not only do we not provide these rights for our own peoples, but they are wasting our tax dollars (and human lives) spreading this "joy" to other countries? What a joke, this GOP's war on women - YES - it is a WAR ON WOMEN - you can tell me that night is day, but I'm not going to believe what is the obvious. Sorry - we are not stupid! We do not think with our vagina's. I'm actually hoping there is a silver lining in this and WE FINALLY bring about the third - and long overdue - wave of feminism to finally gain our EQUAL RIGHTS once and for all!
I read an article last night listing the "10 best fields for women to enter". First, a doctor or SURGEON. Yeah, that sounds like a great place to start - until I read what they should expect to make. Women surgeons make $85,000 a year according to this study - and - this was our TOP paying field! I spoke to a male nurse today who has been in the field for forty years and makes $65K. His jaw dropped. Neither he, or I, can think of one male surgeon that makes less than at least double that. Not only our the salary statistics way off - last year it stated we allegedly made something in the league of 76 cents to a man's dollar. Problem is - I do not know any woman, at any place I have ever worked, that has made even close to 50 cents to a man's dollar.
It does seem the GOP (an the corporations they represent) have a confused agenda, and I'm not sure what mixed messages they are sending us and what exactly they want from this war they now wage. Is there a benefit in keeping us uneducated, pregnant (yearly) and out of the job market, leaving more employment for men? Ironically, this is counter productive to the usual agenda of the corporations best interest. Paying us pennies on a dollar, not granting us equal pay for equal work, no benefits, no "Norma Ray's" on the horizon, but, the icing on this big messy cake - they do not want to have anything to do with supporting all these babies they want us to bear once they are here! With privatization of schools, charging women double from everything from hair cuts to health care but not paying us even a living wage? Breeding is a very profitable market for doctors - and a very real reason why they tried to drive my midwives out of business. The defunding of social programs that feed, house and provide health care for all these little bundles of joy that we poor women can not support but that "big government" wants - but does not exist when it comes to meeting their needs for the next 24 years - just keep 'em coming. Is there that great a shortage of adoptable white babies for rich couples that they are now going to turn poor women's uterus's into factory production providing them with babies which their barren wombs (or sterile husbands) can no longer provide themselves? Or - maybe they just don't want anything to do with the whole messy business of childbearing: puking all day, heartburn, stretch marks and heaven forbid, weight gain? Let the poor eat cake and do the messy work, pushing 'em out within an inch of OUR lives to then hand them over the fruits of OUR wombs all nice and clean as they wear their size 2's? Or have their wives waited too long working on their high powered careers (which women of that class have the benefit of) that they now need to turn poor women's bodies into baby factories to provide them with a selection of marketable newborns - and so they can also avoid years of waiting periods and all that pesky red tape? The stuff of science fiction movies which I laughed off only decades ago - but eerily seemed as precautionary as George Orwell's 1984 - a grain of truth in my gut in reaction to this so-called fiction. But sorry haters - yes, we ARE caterpillars. And we will not be your rented wombs and wet nurses - those days are over. We are not "slimy" creatures who crawl for you - we are BUTTERFLIES Priebus - who are beautiful, colorful, resourceful and - will not be caged! You can pull our student loans, try to control our right to birth control (and then you men might realize "abstinence"!), pull our health care, pay us poverty wages, but we WILL still fly! Vagina is CLOSED, our wings are open....
Caterpillars - SHED YOUR SKIN! (this sounds as good a marching order as any! I myself have never used planned parenthood for birth control, but have at least a dozen times for affordable, high quality, empathetic, women based health care-as I could not afford the $250-$500 plus dollars it would have cost me to see walk through the door of an ob/gyn!. This country is now a proponent, not a protector, of male on female violence, anti ERA (that's Equal Rights Amendment for all you young 'uns who were not yet a zygote when we were fighting for equal pay for equal work decades ago - and if there's ever been a time to fight for this again, it IS now. So, you aspiring surgeons - the "best' we women supposedly can do - who will not be able to even pay your student loans, no less your medical malpractice insurance on THAT salary, a country who is rolling back ALL progress we have mademanaging our own health and reproductive rights (Margaret Sanger must be rolling in her grave). I can go on, and on (and on). Anyone who really BELONGS here KNOW'S the crimes against women and the war that is waging. Ironically, the GOP is "worried' ABOUT Sharia law being passed in this country for them. Again, a double standard. It appears they are working on a binary process when it comes to that - one for them (as usual), and Sharia law for us. The only thing it seems that they haven't tried to legislate yet is burkas - but, if you get raped, if you're not wearing one, don't be surprised when you're told you were probably "asking for it". They must think we think with our vagina's the way most of them think with their penis's. Guess again, guys. This is the impetus WE women have needed - complacency has become the norm for far too long. WE have needed a nudge, and the GOP has awaken this sleeping giant - and you have created the "perfect storm".
And, by the way - for all the fools that take your time to post your unintelligible, irrational, red neck logic "from the bubble" here. Why do you "waste" your time not only watching these programs, which you obviously are incapable of understanding and openly despise - but then you actually take the time to comment? You must know we pass right over them, as you stand right out before we get half way through the first sentence, but personally, I wouldn't waste a precious minute of my time watching pseudo-journalism like faux. I find it interesting that not only do you take your time to watch, but you actually take your time to write. Although we don't appreciate your posts, we are not open to ideas, it's just that most of us our primarily fact based and we just can't get beyond that (nor can we debatearguments that are biased and not based in reality). But - I do appreciate the fact you are actually watching - and that one day, there's a chance you might find your mind opening. Hey, Ariana Huffington was once "the enemy" - now she's one of our champions! Keep watching - you just might find you've learned something...
Somehow someone always finds a way....that's why I just stopped asking..........the answer is always yes.
You forgot to post your apology for not taking the time to make your ramble readable. It's too funny when someone is so hell-bent on making a point- they post and re-post and don't even take time to realize what they did. And the same 4 people loved it both times.
This guy just cannot keep his foot out of his mouth but I guess that is the entire Republican Party. Foot in Mouth Sickness. When it start running they just cannot keep the crap from coming out.
Gladys = Yeah And When They Turn Around And Face US = Even More Crap Spews Out !!!!!!!!! == Ha Haaa = GOMERS !!!!!!
I love the smell of burning GOMERS in the morning it smells like victory.
Better than what they usually smell like.
sorry deb, i see you couldnt dispute the labor statistics that women make less cause they work less hours. insulting those you disagree with is sophmoric. by the way, did you just get a divorce or have a breakup? thats ok, its normal to project after a failed relationship. huffington was a rep who married a multimillionaire liberal. ide be tempted to change my party affliation for a few million,lol ide change it in 10 seconds as she did. some champion huh? as for feminism did you cringe when hillary set it back 30 years by crying for votes? did you cringe when democrats chided sarah for not killing her special needs baby. i doubt it. dem women abort, lets be honest, kill their babies at the 1st sign the baby will need special care. do you agree with some on msnbc asking if the santoriums did the right thing by not killing their special needs baby do you agree with obama saying its ok to starve to death a baby surviving an abortion attempt? i suggest next time before you type hundreds of words why women make less than men you google bureau of labor statistics which show men make more cause they work more hours. see how. easy this is, its not rocket science.