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The Rev. Al Sharpton, MSNBC Host, and Charles Blow, New York Times Columnist look at the new evidence that could lead to the arrest of George Zimmerman.
As another mandatory ultrasound bill passes in Idaho, one Republican legislator suggests women don't understand the difference between consensual sex and rape. Karen Finney, MSNBC Political Analyst and former DNC Communications Director, will weigh in on that and much more.
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I want to know what why Romney and Santorum keep talking about "FREEDOM"; when the white man has always been free. Are they saying white people aren't free because President Obama has them locked up and in chains? Somebody please explain this to me, cause I don't know what "FREEDOM" means to them!
Lady, it is just another gop buzz word with them. Hell, they don't know how to give anyone freedom anyway. They just want to take it away.
These gop-re-baggers Want And Expect Complete And Total Freedom For Themselves And Their Special Interest Groups And Disgustingly Wealthy ONLY !!!! ALL Of The Rest Of US - THEY Consider As Their SLAVES !!!!!!!!!
Are you serious, Lady, Easy, MD/MI, and other libs?!?! Dems have been slowly taking control of everything, from the cars we drive (CAFE standards), places we go (Am. w/ Dis act, environmental laws, safety regulations, etc), foods we eat (nutritional standards), jobs (OSHA, union's right to rule, etc.), what we watch (obscenity standards), health insurance (Obamacare), etc.
They completely control huge segments through:
All in the name of helping citizens stay "safe," keep kids from being "abused," and so on! It's not the TPers or the "rich," its the over controlling liberals that think government must protect us from our bad choices.
I remember a much freer time, when we had diving boards at public parks, seat belts in cars that weren't always used, etc! Thanks for askin'.
sorry but maybe where you came from they should have maybe put a pool in the public park you was diving from, is that a reason for you problems to many dives from a broad into a non existing pool. LOL i know ALL the Public Parks where i came from have a pool attracted to the diving boards, and when i drive by many public parks where there are pools i see diving boards.
much freer time? that's a joke. cafe standards that's a freedom lost? knowing that you can eat something and not get something that will kill you is a freedom lost? safety is a freedom lost?
i have to LOL and thanks for the morning laugh, its good PT
Don't whine about Santorum, or the GOP then Pilot! Most people prefer freedom. Join the club!
Hi Pilot!
We have diving boards at our public pools too. Even high dives. Some States must regulate Freedoms to have fun.
Don't you just hate when every restaurant you go to only offers salad and skinless chicken? The stores only have those same ingrediants too. Oh wait...you can buy fish, only fresh fruits and vegetables and legumes.
Little juvenile idiots looking for an authority figure to fight with now that mommy and daddy are gone.
A nice, easy, make-believe fight without risking anything. Typical chickenhawks. Always trying to look tough to the cowards that follow them.
So Cap we should all like the freedom to breathe dirty air, drink polluted water, eat food that could kill us and the freedom to be stupid so that the FOX people can do our thinking for us? Who pays you and that sixpack guy to come here and spout total BS? So far Obama's policies are working better here than the austerity policies that you guys want to impose upon us are working (or not working) in Europe. It's not Obama's policies that bother you because most of them are things that the GOP proposed in the not so distant past. So why don't you guys tell us what really gets your knickers in a twitter about the President? Oh and by the way did you say something about abusive medical standards??? lmao
Ed If I send you 200k will you say nice things about me??
You never will get it will you. Please........Don't you have anything else?
The Mittster = WHO Gives A Ratts A$$ !!!!!!!! What A GOMER !!!!!!!
Gerry T: I will for free your not as ugly as your mother!
GerryT: Isn't the GOP full of suspense!!! I know how to keep a GOMER in suspense?????????I'll tell you latter!!!
Gerry T: Why is it OK for your right wing buddies to get paid for speaking engagements, but not for Ed? Maybe you should find out what the $$$ was for before you spew the right wing radical BS. Better yet, GO back to Fox Lies, they miss you.
larry
200k for some chit-chat?
He wasn't paid to speak...he was paid to promote unions. All paid for by the employee's union dues.
Just remember what fatty said about Romney's speaking fees.
Remember What romney said About romney's Speaking Fees !!!! $345 Grand - HA - Thats Nothin' !!!!! For Spewing His Crap = WELL THEN - WHY Would He Want To Make A MERE $400 Grand As Prez. ??????? = He Still Makes $5 MILLION Per Year From Bane Capitol == So WHY Would HE EVEN Want To Bother Being PREZ. ??? HMMmmmm !!!!!!!!
Yes, by speaking.
And that was? As I recall Romney was actually criticised for saying that he was making very little money since leaving equities trading even though he was actually making a ton of money. To call this an example of Romney and his lack of knowledge on the middle class priorities and hardships is quite accurate. I do not recall Ed's exact remarks but the argument I laid out is quite logical. Romney has never been middle class or a working joe despite what he claims, he should have admitted that from the beginning instead of trying to shamelessly pander.
I agree CC, can you believe it? Ed is a great guy that (I believe) cares about the working man! I don't agree with his politics, or his love of unions, but I see true compassion for those of us who do the work in this country! Just my opinion.
That said, I don't appreciate the apparent hatred for the "rich" that seems to flow so freely. All the "rich" I know work harder than I ever had, and have the ulcers and other ailments to prove it.
Everyone eventually picks their own lifestyle, but many people are encouraged not to rise to whatever their talent and abilities will take them because or government enticements! Just sayin'.
Then you don't know any rich people as the rich do no work they pay others to work for them. If the so called rich person is working hard then he isn't rich he is just making more then capt so to capt he is rich. Typical back woods hick thinking at its best.
There isn't enough money to make anyone say anything nice about you.
Dying to hear Ed's comments on Bristol Palin's statement about Obama today! Ed, any comments, sans union payments?
What = Is palins Daughter Going To Be Running For V.P.??????? WHY Do They Give These FOOLS AIR-TIME ???????? Sarah Must Be Giving Her Daughter Pointers On How To Make Millions Just By Being Another IDIOT !!!!!!!!!
So you are going to whine that Ed took a speaking fee and gave it away to charity. But your boy Newt claims that the 1.6 million he was paid by Freddie Mac for lobbying for FM was really FM paying him as a historian. To bad for you that tossing rocks in your house of glass doesn't work out well for your side.
A. Ed only gave half
B. Newt ain't my boy
C. They do give fools air time, it's called MSNBC
D. Does Ed give equal consideration to all women? Or just liberals. Misogyny at it's best.
DaveSD: Did any of the GOP call Sandra Fluke or did Hannity have any questions for any of them???
Dave = Put On Your Thinking Cap = OH = Wait = It Just Might Short-Circuit Your Implant !!!!!! You Ditto Heads Really Need To Upgrade Your Circuitry !!!!
xxx ooo - should my tax dollars be responsible for Sandra's "extracurricular" activities? Wouldn't they be better spent on our freeways (creating jobs), parks for my kids? Or better yet, the justice department sending guns to Mexico?
1) No proof of that and according to Eds contract all speaking fees have to go to charity
2) Newt is a republican of course he is your boy
3) no stop projecting Fox news and AM radio habits onto MSNBC besides you are spitting in the face of your host
4) learn to use words correctly misogyny is hatred of all women, funny how you think you can fit words that have a defined meaning into your bigotry
1) I am neither repub or demo, they both are equally worthless to me
2) I am no fan of Fox news, all MSM are biased
3) therefore, Newt cannot be my boy, I do not think he is even qualified to run
4) Thank you for the english lesson, however, I strive not to be a bigot, I just do not like my tax dollars going to those that think they are entitled, not earned
Dave = The gop-re-baggers Are Obviously NOT Concerned With Creating JOBS OR Improving Our Infrastructure !!!!! Butt - THEY May Be Interested In Making Playgrounds For Your Kids Over Top Of TOXIC LandFills !!!!
DaveSD: Where have been living in Wind Cave? The GOP keeps being the party of NO on the Highway bill! If we send enough guns to Mexico maybe the will liberate Texas!
Don't explain that to them again. They know the facts, they just don't have anything else to say. They just make up more stuff or continue to repeat, repeat, repeat.
xxx ooo: were those the same no on Keystone?
whomitmay
Ed took a speaking fee?? Is that what they call it now?? Ed got paid to preach pro union crap to all his fish. I don't recall him saying that he took 200k during his daily broadcasts.....must have slipped his mind.
Its Boehner and Cantor that have the $$$$$$ invested in that leaky toxic crap that would destroy millions of gallons of fresh water. Good trade off! Jesus what a foolish endeavor!
Well xxx ooo, there are lots of things full of it tonight! Sorry, cheap shot and I apologize. But to get back to the original question, Ed, any comments on Bristol's comments? That's all I really wanted to hear about (but the dialogue has been interesting).
I really have no idea about what it is to the which you referring too? I know its a kick about the Predident, I'm pretty sure he has more important things to do than talk to to Some dim witted half governors daughter. Or should I say some random person!
DaveSD: Please explain to us how buying an insurance policy and asking that insurance co. to pay for Rx is asking you or anybody else to pay for a damn thing? Also if you paid attention to anybody but the drugster or hannity, you would know Sandra Fluke did not mention sex one time. But, regaurdless. She's asking for HER insurance, which is part of the tuition cost, to pay for a Rx. Get out of the sun. Also, how many jobs, what kind and for how long would that pipeline "create"? IF it's so great why did the Canadian Gov't refuse to allow it in Canada? ALL the oil is already contracted to China. The water used, vast amounts, can't be purified. Don't sound like a good deal to me.
Larry, come in from the sun. When did I even broach the subject of Rx? I was asking Ed's opinion of Bristol's comments regarding slandering women in the media (i.e. Limbaugh, Maher, et. al.). Step back from the washer when it's on the spin cycle!
Fluke is a horny slut that wants the taxpayer to pay her when she wants to get off. Sandy send Larry Pat and Eugenie the bill. They're always glad to help Georgetown students that earn 150k to start.
Yeah cause you know that Catholics and republicans like their sex with little boys so they don't have to worry about pregnancies so of course Birth Control isn't needed.
Who said this?
I don't know what Dave that must be but whoever that is you'd better go find him and tell him to stop saying that
This had nothing to do with tax dollars at any point that is just flat out fiction and you outta know that.....tax payer money was never part of what she said or rather what was proposed. Quick tip you righties might want to drop this issue, we know it was Newt Gingrich who brought this up and tried to score political points but Rush fumbled that ball for you guys so you might just want to leave these alone if you want to win
On Ed he is not an elected official and so he technically doesn't have to disclose anything so Schultz doesn't have to pretend he isn't completely in love with unions. It's not illegal for him to promote unions based on his beliefs so he can be as invested in them as he wants, again we really don't exactly have the right to know just because he's on TV. Newsflash all major political news personalities do this, all of them....well except current tv......but everyone else
and just to make sure you do know that Ed never reads anything on here just because this forum is anchored to his show's sight, you not going to find Schultz posting around here so it's just us and occaisonally the moderators from newsvine
Speaking of moderators Gerry I would warn you sincerly and respectfully that language that you have used in this thread is not allowed around here, the Vine staff take that very seriously....I know you're trying to be nonconformist and rebellious but if you continue to speak like that you'll end up being banned in about week or two
engage on users not other users
Oh, I forgot to include (in my 2.9 comment) the hatred for those of opposite views (3.9&16, for examples), the church (3.20), and strong women (Coulter, Malkin, Palin, etc).
Larry (3.17): Fluke was asking for the taxpayers to pay for her sex stuff because Obama had allowed her Jesuit Law school's insurer to "opt out" of paying for them. That was the point of the hearing, remember?
Rush explained his "over the top" comment, whether you accept it or not. Can liberals explain theirs? Just askin'.
Lets see a lie for lying religion as well as a reference to insane right wing women who made a career out of being Rush wannabes. Another lie about health insurance companies trying to use religion to deny women a Rx that they had been providing all along. And more defense of the closet gay pedophile lying Rush who never explained a thing he just made excuses to weasel out of the hot water he put himself in.
You say Rush makes offensive remarks whom? I think your, "closet gay pedophile" comment is baseless and certainly over the to! At least his description of Fluke has some basis, and is accurate in the minds of many people.
Say what you want, it's a free country, but understand your opinion does not seem to be shared by many people in this country. Just sayin'.
Well stop thinking capt that is your problem you think instead of researching and there lies your whole problem with the delusions you have displayed. No capt stop projecting yourself onto the nation you are a minority from a state of dim wits who believe they are exceptional people when reality is they are not.
^@^
as kathe says
^DFTT^
Palin is not strong, she's just a dumb hater. That's all, and I would say the same if she was a man, makes no difference, stupidity is not gender-related.
In her case, it's genetic.
She made a lot of men and women sit up and listen while gov of AK. She added excitement to all the McCain rallies when she went, and still has a huge following after years of liberal spin that she is stupid. I certainly like her, and what she says! Just my opinion.
So much excitement that McCain credited her with the radical, extreme comments made during some rallies, so great she was Schmitt stated it was a huge mistake to get her on the ticket, so great her own staff didn't vote for the ticket because of her, specifically.
A radical is not the same as a strong person, a radical is not a role model but for other radicals wanting to justify their own conduct.
ie, Crappedon America.
lie throughly debunked repeating this obvious fact is at this point meaningless since because clearly you are a member of reality optional club but I will anyway
The fact is that the main part of her testimony at the forum, it was not a hearing and yes they are different things, was about a friend who needed it for medical reasons which resulted in her losing an ovary because she couldn't go to school and pay for the medicine
His "explanation" and your's are based on a lie so I have a hard time trying to understand why you're stupid enough to that contraception makes all women whores or that the amount of sex means you need more pills
shouldn't women be able to have sex for all the same reasons men do? Just askin I expect your answer to be no but we'll see
oh and what are these alleged radical comments
You must have been looking in a mirror when you said that......in reality your viewpoint on this issue is in the minority most americans in fact don't support your beliefs.......over a hundred ads pulled from Rush's program clearly shows that a lot of people don't agree with you........try checking some real poll numbers for, that or go back and look up the definition of "majority"
Palin is an IDIOT, DOMINIONIST RADICAL, SELF CONCERNED, THIN SKINNED, UNINFORMED, WORST VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN AMERICAN HISTORY THAT'S WHY NOT EVEN REPUBLICANS RESPECT HER OPINION...Palin was a game changer........except it went from game on to game over. That's how she changed the game by embarrassing the party. Remember is was Palin who helped invent your beloved race batting birther ideology when she said Obama was not born in america
In the words of old mama bush I hope she'll go back to alaska and stay there
If you are looking for free stuff that you don't have to pay for.......look to the other guy says mitt......no copay from robme.
I wonder what he thinks .....just reading that if you stay on the pill for 5 years the pill reduces ovarian cancer risk 70%. .....
It also say the aspirin has a better purpose than the gop prescribes. Postmenopausal women who regularly "use aspirin" and other painkillers have lower estrogen levels, which may decrease their risk of ovarian cancer. Source is the journal Cancer Epidemiology, Biomakers and Prevention.
Thankful Mom-3182614
I suggest you go out and """""BUY"""""""" some for yourself.
And I suggest you go have another lobotomy, the first one did take.
Thanks JiT, for that typical liberal response. All drugs have their benefits and dangers.
Someone tell Mom to watch out for the side effects of using "birth control pills" for other than their prescribed use. Pulmonary embolisms come to mind, but there are plenty of others. Just sayin'.
Thanks capt for trying to defend a fellow trolls bad behavior that you ignored. That all of a sudden you are now claiming to have some medical knowledge is right on par with your knowledge of history, none. Why because not all women get those side effects it is like everything else hit or miss as well as the person using the Rx life style. For example smokers have a higher risk to have those side effects then non smokers. Typical capt response full of misinformation and fear.
Hey whom, I didn't say "all women get those side effects" or that I am claiming any "medical knowledge." When have I been misinformed about anything in history, or defended bad behavior? I have said that some of you accusations are baseless (3.24) offensive. Am I wrong? Just askin'.
Except you didn't say some woman may get those side effects
here is your own words capt
"Someone tell Mom to watch out for the side effects of using "birth control pills" for other than their prescribed use. Pulmonary embolisms come to mind, but there are plenty of others. Just sayin'."
That you seem to think that you are some kind of Glen Beck just shows us that your are suffering from delusions again.
Ha, Ha, Whom......Thanks to them my whole life improved and my suffering went away, and I did have a child.......In later years it has gotten me through. I lost two sisters to cancer and I have none of the signs I will go that way.
Just as long as you outlive Crappedon America.
Glad to hear Mom has done so well, and that the "pill" worked for her. It worked for us for ~25 years, until my wife almost died from a pulmonary embolism while driving to Wisconsin.
Chris, whom, & all: I am a conservative and I care about people, men, women, liberals, fellow conservatives, workers, poor, Native Americans, etc. Sorry if that doesn't fit your stereotype, but I really do not harbor any animosity toward others. Just want you to know that; I will not hate you or anyone else for what you say to me or what you believe. Your personal insults are humorous but carry no meaning.
I do hate what liberal misguided welfare programs have done to our poor neighbors and misguided economic policies have done to our economy. Liberals have destroyed so many families and communities.
I do find liberals as callous and hardhearted as they find conservatives. Guess we will all have to answer to our maker someday!
Just can' stop lying, can you.
Guess it's not in your nature.
What have I said that was a lie, Chris? Find something, anything. You got nothin' is what I thinkin'.
There you go again capt thinking when you should be listening. Funny capt you lie so much you are starting to believe your lies.
Let's narrow it down. When have you ever told the truth?
DaveSD: Poor fudge packer Rimjob he's losing all his advertisers! He can't even say all the BAD WORDS he use to use like D....ick butt he does like it in his A$$!
OK, it comes down to name calling. When you know a liberal loses an argument. Ed, you approve of this dialogue?
now you want Ed's approval.......make up your mind. I know like the mitt, you can't be sure if you can make up your mind or if you need to make up your mind?
Just using the same W...ords of your Hero RUSH just sayin!
Easy = Geeeeeezzz Dont Confuse The GOOFBALL !!! Ha Haaaa !!!!!
Well come guys he is a rea independent he just sounds like a tea bagging troll. I mean really doesn't everyone complain how "their TAX dollars" are spent on those who feel entitled. He also claims not to be a bigot but when he says those who feel entitled who is he talking about, the CEO's? Corporations? Republican Retirees? Or is he talking about that poor black Pregnant teen age girl who gets food stamps. Wanna bet that he doesn't mind Exxon getting a tax cut at the expense of his Tax dollars. Independent right independent running away from GWB and embracing Ryan.
Thanks for your judgement call there whoitmay. Yeah, it get a little pissy when the guy in front of me buys steaks on food stamps while at best I can afford hamburger, but feel the same when GE pays no corporate taxes, and Wall Street execs make exorbitant sums while laying off the little guy, and while the IRS is relentless in their pursuit of me while most of congress owes back taxes with little consequence. Yep, I must be a bagger!
Really!!!!! Is that the kind of language you use??????? Really?????!!!!!!!!! this is in reference to Post # 5 Really!!!!!!
Just a little bit of your HERO RUSH! What can't I use the same $.....HIT!
I do not listen to Rush, can't stand the man, but I care about the language on the Vine..just saying...
DaveSD...... I wouldn't worry about the name calling. They do 10 times as much name calling as the conservatives because they have......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hML8_CffIck
The name calling results from you 'intellectuals' that come here and show how much you DON'T know, then try and infect the rest of us with your ignorance.
Perhaps the intellectuals have the answers, that's what learning is all about.
cm.... Good to see you tonight. Hope everythig is going your way. Long time no see. I don't know if you read it but TC said he had to go in for some test and wouldn't be on here for awhile. I hope everything goes well for him.
Six, I haven't been on in a few days maybe a week or so, I didn't know TC was having some tests done, I'm sure things will be just fine and we'll see him not too long from now, nice to see you Six..
Right because dave so dishonest knows that the person spending the food stamps on steaks got the food stamps for being poor. Then there is reality dave so dishonest repeats that old tired worn out welfare queen lie told to him by an insane doddering old fool who couldn't tell which century he was living in. To bad for dave so dishonest he just wishes he could get a free ride like the Koch brothers, here is a clue dave the Koch brothers don't want people like you invading their gated communities on the hill.
Oh they have answers cm, just the wrong ones.
Thanks for the update, six. Always enjoy hearing from those who have insightful things to say, CM.
Of course JiT, whom, xxxooo, and others - it's always fun to read your (typical liberal) responses. And hear from those who ignore half the vine Mom, India, etc. I appreciate the comic relief-in'.
Apparently some people haven't been to the "conservative" blogs much. I have many times. Liberals that visit to post their point of view or critisize are in no way allowed to stay.
The name calling, the language, lack of class, bigotry, racism, violent rhetoric and misinformation makes this blog a 1 on a scale of 1-10. The "right", white nationalist (oh yes, I've seen their names before and know the other sites they post on or how they express certain views), racists and other bigots are definitely a 10+.
This is a Liberal blog. So if some are uncomfortable here, they are free to go to the other side. Criticism here is not polite no matter how blatant or veiled it is.
Thank K/T, I have been to various blogs but cannot find a "conservative" blog that does not allow liberal comments or bans liberals. Please send me the addresses, either here or on my vine. I do appreciate the blog, and its rule of no personal attacks. I also like the ban on profanity, vulgarity, and racist comments.
You know my views, many considered "liberal" (abortion being the most unpopular), but I like coming here because some here do intellectually challenge my political positions and views. I don't mean to offend anyone but do enjoy the verbal sparring.
I honestly don't understand why someone collapsed my 2.9, some people are intolerant to opposing viewpoints. What have I ever done that is "blatantly (offensive) or veiled?" Just askin'.
Kathe didn't you know going to their sites proves to them that liberals are welcomed over at their sites with open arms, except if a liberal actually tried to correct their misinformation they would be IPs banned. That they come here and insult our intelligence with their talking points and claims that they here to learn a different view then theirs just shows how dishonest as well as delusional they are, we are nothing like them nor do talking points work because they are useless meaningless words said to get votes.
Whoitmay The "poor black pregnant girl" you speak so highly of should be tried and executed for treason.
Kathe..... I couldn't agree with you more. I really appreciate this vine. I think it is by far the best blog on the Internet. I compliment the people that are responsible for providing it for us to debate whether it is civil or not. I also appreciate the moderators for doing their best to keep it civil. In spite of the comments I make that aren't agreeable to you or anyone else, this is about as close to freedom on a blog as any I've seen with the regulations which I am happy to oblige by. We don't agree, but they do their best to keep us civil and that is a good thing. I can't think of another blog that even comes close to compare with this one. But in all honesty I haven't participated anywhere else, mostly because of just what you said. All you have to do is read some of the other blogs and see what the rightie idiots are saying as well and it's just sickening. We have our debates, our unarmed fights, our good times and I consider everyone on this blog to be a friend in spite of our differences. When I have a comment directed at me or anyone that is out of line, I respond appropriately. If someone came down on you, I would be one of the first to jump in to protect you just as much as I would do the same for a conservative. You known me Kathe for a long time now and you know I wasn't nearly as civil when I first started here. This has been a good experience for me to learn to put forth my beliefs and still maintain some sort of civility. We all have our days, you know. Just remember, I agree, it seems all other blogs are really bad. I give MSNBC an A+ for the only blog I've seen on the Internet that is fair and balanced as much as can be expected. It got a little out of hand a while back and became quite bias, but the moderators did the right thing and solved that problem. I do know there are those that try to entrap people to get them banned. I just don't believe in putting my head in the sand. I detest out and out vulgarity and cursing and I would hope you feel the same from either side. You've seen me come down hard on new trolls that need to be banned right away. Anyway, I hope you have a nice day and check out #6 and #6.9. These are facts, not made up. There are no links because it came from my knowledge spread out from numerous avenues of information. But you can look up anything you want in what I've said and see what you find out. Like I said, there are many in Cuba that worship Castro without considering the freedoms they have lost. It may not have been perfect before Castro, but it sure is a long way from being perfect now. Most people still in Cuba do not even know what life could have been, since they weren't alive during the change and have been programed from birth at this point to accept life as it is as the only reality. That's the way it will be here.
Really!!!!! Is that the kind of language you use??????? Really?????!!!!!!!!! this is in reference to Post # 5 Really!!!!!!
CM- nice to hear from you!!! long time, no time...I couldn't agree with you more...you are 100% correct...its disgusting, the language that led this thread...and you know what's worse???
5 people gave it an "up" vote...
MD/MI doesn't even realize the level of bigotry he's hit, nor do his supporters...that's what is so interesting...either that, or he DOES know it, but doesn't care enough about people for it to stop him...
good to see you again, CM...
my bad...it was xxx ooo...not MD/MI...
see? i knew those avatars would screw me up...
Why do we need to change the name on the president's door?
We’ve had 12 recessions since WWII. Since the Great
Depression the average recovery time has been 10 months. The longest recovery
time has been 16 months. This recession is the worst recovery time since the
Great Depression. Several presidents have inherited recessions. This recession
started Dec 2007 and ended Jun 2009, if you believe that. In the past, the worse the recession, the
stronger the recovery has been. We should be in our 3rd year of a
booming recovery. Why not? Obama has done exactly the opposite of what has been
done in any other recession in the past. The worst recession we’ve had in the
past was the Reagan recession 1981 and 1982. Obama likes to brag he created
227,000 jobs last month but Reagan created 1.1 million Dec 1983 in one month
alone and the economy grew in the second year by 6.2% in real terms, the highest
in 50 years. By the end of the 2nd year Reagan had created 16
million new jobs. The Obama economy grew last year a real rate growth of 1.7%. Here we are 51 months after the recession
started with the average recovery time being 10 months for recovery time; the
real unemployment rate for unemployed, underemployed and discouraged workers is
almost 15%. So more than 4 years after the recession started there are still 24
million workers either unemployed or underemployed and the real wages and
incomes under Obama of employees has fallen all the way back to 1996 levels, falling
steady under Obama. We have more Americans in poverty today than since 1967.
What has Obama done? He has done exactly the opposite of what should have been
done. The stimulus programs have only added to the national debt and haven’t
done a thing to help the economy. Next year the tax rates are going up in a
number of ways. The Bush tax cuts are expiring because Obama refuses to renew
them, effecting small businesses, job creators and small businesses. The top
two rates will go up nearly 40%. The Obama tax is going into effect. The
Capital gains rate is going up nearly 60%. Dividends rates are going to nearly
triple. The death tax rate will increase
nearly 20%. The medicare payroll tax will increase by nearly 52%. The first
thing Obama did when he came into office was borrow $1 trillion and go on a
spending spree called a stimulus. Think about it you borrow $1 trillion dollars
and put $1 trillion back in to the economy you’ve done nothing for the economy
except increase the national debt. There’s more, I just can’t remember
everything right now. Those are very good reasons to change the name on the
President’s door as soon as possible before he runs use completely in the
ground..
The Three Stooges is a remake but its not the new movie I'm talking about and these are the cream of the crop? Who will lead us? WOW! Quick pick already! Larry Curly or Moe!
And we get the typical tea bagging chain e mail response full of nonsense and made up facts. 6 here is a clue turn on your spam filter on your e mail and you won't get these useless e mails.
Open your eyes and you can see. Open up you mind and you (well maybe not) learn.
And anything the President does is wrong and all the GOP has been right for the last ten years! Open your heart (if you have one) and you will feel the pain of those who have paid for a life time. And now want all the rest. and if the GOP has its way all of the 99% witch may even include you will all suffer forever as you will be a slave, But I guess you would blame that on Obama too!
And here I thought you for not placing BLAME just how to get out of this MESS! Can you say hypocrite!
Let's leave it all for our children, their children and their children to worry about. How about that? Seems kind of selfish to me.
What the GOP has the answer? Not as far as they have any!!! Hell they can't pick a candidate!!! Lets start another war and solve the debt!?!?!?! HUH! What THE F>>>CK
Like I said xxx.... I don't care for any of them either.
I will pick the lesser of two evils and maybe have a chance....So I pick Obama I don't agree with every thing he wants but the other is DOOM!
McClintock Questions CBO on Obama's Economic Record
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TccsaU_TjvM
Spending is 100% of GDP now!
How can you tell me he is doing a good job? What do you see him doing that is going to change the path he has chosen. If the Democrats we would have spent much more. Boy, for that guy to be one of our leaders, he sure can't give a straight answer, can he?
YEAH = If ONLY gwb Had Spent MORE And Givin MORE Tax Breaks To The Wealthy !!!! And Opened Up MORE Loop-Holes !!!!????? And Started MORE WARS - Yeah - BOY - This Country Would Be IN EVEN BETTER Shape Than It IS TODAY !!!!!!
Thanks for the link, six! We all can look back on GWB's years with envy MD/MI, can you believe it!
xxxooo: look at all Obama has added to the debt load, that future generations will need to service before you lecture any conservative on compassion! Mitt seems to have more compassion for the people in this country that the liberals that continue to spend! Don't you care about those of us that will need to pay the interest on that debt? Just askin'.
YUP = gwb Was REAL Concerned About Finding OBL !!!! HA !!!! And Creating Jobs IN AMERICA ????? OF Coarse He Didnt Want To Start Any WARS That Were UN-PAID FOR !!!!!??????????? And gwb And cheney Did NOT Want To Increase The Deficit To An ALL-TIME HIGH !!!! Hey !!!?????????
Capt. If Ihave as much as you,NO! Besides as a wise old man said deficits don't matter! But what we really need is a good war to get country back on its feet! right!
Bush and Clinton both wanted to get OBL, Obama benefited from their intelligence (pun intended) gained from the rendition program. BO does deserve credit for doing the right thing, do you really think Clinton and Bush wouldn't have?
GWB and Chaney seemed to try to spend us into obvilon, but BO has actually done it! In less than half the time! Deficits won't matter, if the resulting prosperity will keep them from adding to the debt! Figure it out, guys! You are confusing deficits and debt! Just sayin'.
Indeed! your right on one thing But if you sell your arms and legs your not getting far.
sixpack - I for one appreciate your efforts, but I've been down this road before with these folks. It's completely pointless. They're blinded by their own rhetoric.
You can tell them all day long that the GOP and the liberals are just the left and right wing of the same bird. What you'll get in response is that you're a right winger, tea bagger, or whatever other dismissive name they can call you.
You can post numbers and statistics (straight from non-partisan government sources) that prove Obama's spending spree is unsustainable, and they will respond that it's a GOP lie that's been debunked.
They don't really care that there are more than two sides to every issue, because they're boxed into the left's corner and they falsely assume because you're outside that box, you must be in the GOP box.
Once again, I do appreciate your effort six, and I have hope that there are others out there like us who are finally waking up and seeing the whole truth about the government.
I've given up trying to reach those who are unreachable. Eventually the truth will be revealed.
sixpick,
what's the difference between borrowing money (Obama) or putting everything on the credit card and handing it to the next president to manage (bush).
its really convenient for bush that he caused (for the most part) our financial collapse at the very end of his presidency.
No difference at all really. You can't borrow your way out of debt. The response to insurmountable debt should never, ever be borrowing more. George Bush jumped in the lake. Obama wants to jump in the ocean, since we're already wet.
Obama is going to borrow and spend a lot more than Bush by the time he's finished. And he will hand his tab to whoever is next in line, who will in turn blame it all on him, and borrow more.
NOTHING. EVER. CHANGES.
Whomi..... You're going to really be disappointed come this November. Let me be the first to express my sympathies to you.
And you ass/u/me this based on what? I can't wait to hear this.
Did someone move a rock over? I think I hear something. Watch your step.
Break A Leg and Ankle !!!!!!
Hey xxxooo has some spare parts (6.15), MD/MI!
@ six.....if we are disappointed in November, you will be doubly disappointed along with us. If one of those gop puppets gains the office we all will become victims to the the elite, and the puppet will discover he will only be a fake figure head at their beck-and-call. and we will say good bye America.
Either way it's going to be a disappointment as far as I'm concerned.
Mitt Romney might as well be Barack Obama on everything from warfare to welfare. The differences between these two candidates is trivial and they both have exactly the same agenda. The only difference between them is the rhetoric and which line of BS is going to be easier to swallow.
Essentially we are going to sleepwalk through the next four years and maybe when we wake up if we're really lucky the country and our freedom won't be irreparably destroyed.
The best I can do now is prepare to ride out the next four years. Things are going to be a lot worse than they are right now.
Even though they're slowly getting better?
Define better Chris.
Unemployment?
On Feb. 16, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report on long-term unemployment showing that the past three years have witnessed “the longest stretch of high unemployment in this country since the Great Depression.” The report observes that if the underemployed had not been excluded from official statistics, “the unemployment rate in January 2012 would have been about 15 percent.” The “share of unemployed people looking for work for more than six months,” i.e. the long-term unemployed, has been above 40 percent since December 2009, the highest level since these data have been collected.
You can call this a GOP lie but it doesn't change the fact that the CBO is non-partisan.
Foreign Policy?
Invasion of Iran is imminent regardless of who is in the oval office. That alone is going to send any kind of recovery (perceived or real) into a tailspin. I'd count on it happening in the next 12-24 months. The tough sanction talk is already beginning and it's a sure sign we're going in.
Syria is going to be another mess.
Romney or Obama - makes no difference on this one.
Deficit Spending?
This issue has already been addressed here by myself and others and dismissed as a GOP lie, in spite of the fact that the source of that data was also non-partisan.
That's fine. When Obama leaves office the numbers will be very clear.
Health Care Reform?
The CBO says it's going to cost twice as much as what Obama pledged it would.
I don't see how any of this can be perceived as "better". Things are worse, and you can go on with the half truth of blaming Bush for leaving Obama with a mess, but each year the hole gets deeper under Obama, and that already weak argument is going to be a weaker one in the next few years.
Estimates of ARRA’s Impact in the Fourth Quarter of 2011
CBO develops estimates of ARRA’s effects on output and employment by looking at recorded spending to date along with estimates of the other effects of ARRA on spending and revenues, by using evidence about the effects of previous similar policies, and by drawing on various mathematical models that represent the workings of the economy. Using such analysis, CBO estimates that ARRA’s policies had the following effects in the fourth quarter of calendar year 2011 compared with what would have occurred otherwise:
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43014
You can't have 1st quarter figures, because the 1st quarter isn't over yet.
We haven't invaded Iran, nor are we going to.
Barack Obama has nothing to do with Syria.
Your other points are future extrapolations. Blaming Obama for your dour predictions doesn't constitute facts.
Why do you bother with this crap?
No, we're going to arm Israel to attack them and then bail them out when they get in over their heads.
His administration has already imposed sanctions on Syria. To say the Obama administration has nothing to do with what happens in Syria is ridiculous.
Ahhh, more predictions from the Oracle.
When it comes to ridiculous, you pretty much wrote the book.
Facetheinevitable...... It's a long way down here from up there where you commented. It stinks down here. You would think after reading some of those facts they might have actually gain a little insight, but noooooo....... I understand your point, but we must remember their are others that never join but read, never sign in but read and I think the common sense will prevail if not by choice by force. By that I mean when the ump hits the fan it will become evident. Let's just hope it's not too late by then. Even old johnnie boy 12 rececessions longest recovery 18 month, the worse the recession the bigger the comeback and here we are 50 plus months later and they are bragging about a 1.7% growth. I don't expect to get through to everyone, but there are some that will be enlightened and after they read these posts those people will probably realize we must be correct in what we're saying just from reading some of these comments that are being made. LOL.
I guess you're one of those people who can't tell a fact from an opinion.
Just because you're really, really sure you're right, or think one day you will be, it doesn't mean you are.
If you read FTI's comments carefully, I mean ALL the words, not just the one's you agree with, you'll realize that every one of them are from his imagination.
But so are yours, aren't they?
I've only posted facts on #6. If you do some research you'll find that to be true, that's all. I sure wish the liberals that weren't intend on destroying this county had the ability to open their eyes and realize the truth. I don't care for the Republicans either, but we made a disastrous mistake and it won't be long before it will become evident to everyone. Even in Cuba, there are people that worship Castro. I heard a Cuban today that had lived in Cuba say he just couldn't believe the Americans were aware of what is going on in this country. He said everything he heard Obama say, he had heard Castro say during his lifetime. He said he felt like he was listening to Castro every time Obama opened his mouth. We made a mistake and it was much bigger than any one would have imagined it to be.
Did the GOP invade Cuba???Too!!!
Ya'll come back now yah hear!
But if you think you have the solution to all these problems, Lets hear them!
First thing is to get Obama out of the White House and that along will create a boom in the economy. Don't you understand the man isn't what you would like to think he is. We're all going to end up like Greece under his control and that is what it will be if we don't get him out of the White House in November. All those taxes will be hitting the working class and you think we had a recession this time, wait until then and you will really see a recession. Remember these words. Even George Soros said there wouldn't be much change with Romney taking his place, but at least he would be working for America and not destroying the country intentionally.
So what I get from that is you WILL be voting for Robme and he will be working for America? Who will he be working for, the rich? By sending jobs to China and than butchering the businesses for Bain Capital and alike? Building the military and threatening every country not in the free world? Adding to the debt without a way to pay for it! Good choice. But if you could only see the long term goals I think you might think different! War vs Peace energy freedom from fossil fuels, Clean air and water and land that is productive and not owned by every big business for reaping for their own profit, And nothing in it for the working man but a two part time jobs and will just add to the debt. No thanks not for me. But that's just my take on it.
Here's the TRUTH sixpack. We are recovering out of this recession, unemployment down from 10 to 8.3 and falling, stock market is higher now that it has ever been, we saved a million jobs in one of the last major manufacturing corporations in this country, gotten out of an illegal war and working on the other, made this country safer by killing more terrorist leaders in 3 yrs. than the previous administration did in 8, passed laws that guarantees equal pay for women plus appropriating funds for the VA a year in advance so they won't be short changed by the reichwingnuts again, no more DADT.......And did I mention we killed OBL?
And here's the truth in what we'll get from the teabagger party. Deregulation of everything especially wall st so we can have another economic meltdown, more tax breaks for the mega rich and increased taxes on the middle and lower class, the killing of Medicare, SS and Medicaid, doing away with Dept of Education, killing all unions and child labor laws, putting us back into another war just to name a few.
Sixpack, Fake News, Oxyrush and some 'Cuban' is not a reliable way of getting your info.
John = Rite-On !!!!!
John n Tex: Talons up!!!!
Obama's dealings with terrorists has been great, JiT! You recovery is pathetic compared to that of Reagan. Thanks again, six! That link -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TccsaU_TjvM
- says it all! Just listen to the insults and name calling from those who cannot refute it. At this point most of us can see why Obama has resorted to Clinton's "politics of personal destruction."
At least Clinton figured it out, and did the right thing. Do you think Obama will? Just askin'.
Yep = Lets Go Back To gwb's Methods Of MORE Tax Breaks For The Wealthy And Start 3 More WARS -{Un-Paid For } And Open Up More Loop-Holes For Special Interest Groups - So As They Can Increase Their Record Breaking Profits EVEN MORE And Allow Middle And Lower Class {as it were } AMERICANS To Suffer The Consequences !!!!!!!
Since the GOP can't take credit for OBL but are in to head hunting they have changed their sights to the Obama but much like a poor old Dick Cheney they can't hit the target Obama bin Waitin and has been playing chess while the GOP is playing Twister, good old Raygun is turning 360s in his grave because of the GOPs lack of his wisdom" LOL " but they could really use his crystal ball to make a intelligent course to follow but it seems are using fortune cookies instead.
Hey xxx ooo, I have always applauded Obama's handling of OBL and the other terrorists and pirates! Just remember the House has sent many bills to the Senate only to die there, without even being brought up. You and MD/MI need to get over your bigotry to the "rich," "conservatives," and "strong women." The cost of Bush's wars, prescription drugs, etc were all added to the debt, and yet Obama has spent more in only ~3 years! You do understand that, don't you?
Don't you guys care about this country and that Obama is spending us into generational debt? Just askin'.
You have no place for public programs the poor and nothing for those down on their luck just call them a drain. Someday this will come to you and maybe you will feel something more than just mad at someone else. How can you make judgement on others that less fortunate than you? Because someday God will be askin'.
Hi xxx!
And, we'll all owe our souls to the company store if the r/tp's get their way.
Sure don't want to hear "I never knew you" either.
You're right xxxooo & K/T - I believe we will all answer answer at the judgment seat someday. I just know I can answer I helped where I saw the need instead of requiring others.
Jesus instructed us to "give" when we saw a need, not "take and redistribute through the government." God mentioned something about coveting in his 10 commandments, too.
Are You Still Hearing Voices ?? Just Askin' !!!!!
http://btco.newsvine.com/_news/2012/03/21/10789960-paul-ryan-helping-the-poor-by-hurting-them?email=html
Hey MD/MI - Mom's link is great! Not too sure about the tax cuts, but the spending cuts are the right direction. As a retired teacher, I sure wish he would abolish the Dept of Education. Just eliminating the "tzars" would be a great symbolic gesture!
There may be hope, if Ryan's budget would get adopted. Maybe we can turn this shipwreck around after all! Thanks again, Mom!
I guess abolishing the Dept. of Education would bring more people down to your level.
You can dream.
When is Ed going to ask "If they want to get rid of Obama Care what are they going to replace it with? How much are Romney and Santorum getting from Wall Street Speculators? Big Oil Companies? John
It's called personal responsibility, John. Stop the class warfare and show some concern for all Americans!
Yeah cause everyone should be forced to take personal responsibility. So capt when are you going to take personal responsibility and give back all those tax payers dollars that you are living on? After all personal responsibility is not taking government handouts and living without according to you. After all capt you are the one claiming the government spends to much on people like you capt. Don't try that good old cop out of yours capt, that somehow you earned it more then everyone else, you didn't you just paid into the system and are getting more then you actually put in. Oh yeah you can also start taking care of your poor relatives because they are your responsibility as well after all they are family and you are all about family values. Guess you forgot that didn't you, it was people like you that petitioned the government to use tax dollars to take care of relatives who couldn't take care of themselves so the poor relatives were no longer your responsibility. Yeah capt is all for responsibility as long as he doesn't have to take any.
You really don't know what you are talking about whom!
First - someone needs to explain the difference in a handout and a retirement. One is given, one is earned.
Second - I do agree the system is overly generous, that seniors are the wealthiest strata of this population, and it is unsustainable. I am working to change it, are you? Unlike myself, there are some elderly that really need the assistance, but liberals are going to bankrupt the system by ignoring the changing demographics in this country. Why don't you care for those who are depending on SS someday?
Third - conservatives do care for their families, I had an addition built onto my house when my parents could no longer care for themselves. Both were able to comfortably die at my home, without at lot of taxpayer assistance.
Finally - I explained why conservatives have more compassion and are more tenderhearted than liberals in my comment 4.9. Our opinions are just that, but your attempts to insult my character are getting annoying. Just sayin'!
So capt when are you going to start giving back what you mooched off the system already. You claim you are a stock market wiz why that means you don't need those handouts your sucking up. Just saying just proves that you worship a moron name Glen Beck who like you never said a true word in his life.
So capt when are you going to start giving back what you mooched off the system already. You claim you are a stock market wiz why that means you don't need those handouts your sucking up. Just saying just proves that you worship a moron name Glen Beck who like you never said a true word in his life.
GOP= Dumb, Dumber , Dumbest and "Gee I really have no idea what I am doing here!" John
John..... Knowledge my friend. That is what you need. Don't be blinded by the lies you are being fed. If you don't believe me, research #6 and see what you come up with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYuOBTxSEI4
Thanks again, six! Great stuff! Why can't liberals come up with some facts and/or sensible rebuttal?
Capt. Gotta make sense in the first place, Just sayin!
What have the conservatives on this site posted that didn't make sense? Just askin'.
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Goood ! 1 Kathe!!!!LOLOLOLOLOL!
Kathy, that bird you drew was a little wide in the middle, but agree with all my heart.
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How many people think Crappedon America is a moron? Just askin'.
Not a moron just another dumb hick Texan who thinks he is exceptional because of the Alamo, which in reality was just a big military blunder by the Mexican's who would have taken Texas if they had went around the Alamo, which didn't have a military advantage, if the Mexican army had not of attacked the Alamo they would have taken out Sam Houston before he could muster his forces. Because of that military blunder Texas won its independence so reality is Texas owes its independence to stupidity and not bravery as Texans believe today.
Hey Chris, I was banned for a week for calling you a moron, remember? Just askin'.
Chris, .......just not very well informed is most of the problem. Just not worth the effort to communicate.
Crappedon-But in your case it's true.
And really, it's just a poll. I thought it would be fun.
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TM-I don't agree. I think he deliberately lies. His function is the same as Tokyo Rose in WWII, if you are familiar with her work.
Hey, Crappedon! You got 3 votes! I think you're going to win!
Isn't this exciting?
@Captain:
Most of the stuff you guys post doesn't make sense and almost none of it is based on facts. Your party was viable in the olden days. I disagreed with repubs on some issues but by and large most didn't go into nutsville. Now it seems that you guys try to out wack-a-doo each other. Booing veterans and cheering the death of people who can't afford health care. I'm sure God is going to be really happy to meet you guys. (not)
Crappedon! 4 votes! You've got fans!
Funny how GWB went to the Saudis and begged for lower oil prices they laughed in his face! Obama askes and they say sure buddy anything for a brother of the faith. Seems they like peace more than war in the back yard. So oils well that end well!
Good job xxx ooo, love the pun! It really doesn't matter until the price at the pump comes down!
Behind the dark glasses is the heart of jungle...And the price of gasoline will drop to $2.50 by summer. because?
Kathe = Hey - You ALRITE ?
Hey MD!
So glad to have you back, sweetie!!
Ya, I'm all right. Going to try to sleep in a bit. I thought you and xxx had maybe left. The band is back together!
Hey - Glad To Hear That Are Doing Well - Sweetie !!! Thank You - Yeah Its Good To Be Out Of The Avery - Ha Haaa !!!!! Stretching My Wings Again !!!!!
I Have Been Keeping My Talons Nice And Sharp !!!!!!
Look out world!
xxx... I don't know if I have this right, but you know of the Habu and the Mongoose. Bush made the big mistake of getting rid of Saddam Hussein who was a potential threat to Saudi Arabia. We were the Mongoose in that scenario. Saddam was the Habu. Now Saudi Arabia has no Habu like Saddam to worry about. With the potential threat to Saudi Arabia being eliminated and no need for the protection we provided we lost our influence in oil prices. I condemn it then and I still do. I mean the conservatives were against me right along with the liberals at that time.
I don't know if every one has looked at the link TM put on here showing all the pictures with information on each and everyone of the dead soldiers that have died in vain in Afghanistan, but I didn't get through all of the pictures. I think it would have taken all night. Just remember, these are the best we had to offer and they are all dead now and their families have died a little as well. I don't support war unless it is the only option and has to be taken. I will go back and save that link. We need to keep reminding ourselves and those that promote war we will not stand for wars in vain that are just a killing field for all our fine young people.
GET THEM OUT NOW!!!!! LOGISTICS BS. MONEY FOR THE INDUSTRIAL WAR MACHINE. TELL IT LIKE IT REALLY IS. I DON'T CARE IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT, IF YOU SUPPORT WARS IN VAIN YOU ARE AGAINST THE USA.
Funny how GWB went to the Saudis and begged for lower oil prices they laughed in his face! Obama askes and they say sure buddy anything for a brother of the faith.
Did xxx ooo just call Obama a Muslim???
Hi CATT!
I don't think so. <s>
Let the Saudis say what they will. They have their Islamic beliefs.
Obama never had that belief and he is a born again Christian.
See ya later, bud.
Hey Kathe!
i just thought the word choice was interesting- a "brother of faith"...to the Saudis, who are Muslim, that is what they would be referring to. i know the Saudi's exact words weren't "sure buddy anything for a brother of the faith"... :) but for xxx ooo to say that, what "faith" would he be talking about? Saudi's wouldn't do him a favor because he is a Christian. they would do him a faith-based favor, because he believed in their same faith, not the "infidel" faith...
curious wording is all...I want to know who to attribute the Muslim thing to..the Saudis or xxx ooo...
He isn't born again though...that's evangelical...he is actually part of the black liberation theology church...still a Christian based church...just a little bit different "launching off point" than traditional Christian Churches...
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Qui legent hos versus, mature censunto;
Prophanum vulgus & inscium ne attrectato.
Omnesque Astrologi, Blenni, Barbari procul
sunto,
Qui aliter faxit, is rite sacer esto.
In the South in the East shall fear the spring that's coming near
The worlds police for sailing ships would stow their sails
In the North of the East they will fail because of the ships who sail
The two headed Master of the West with six eyes knows them best
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What gives the wing-nuts the right to define who and what other people are. That is about as arrogant and pompous as you can get. All people are individuals.
The moment Obama became President you nuts started trying to define who he is. How would you like others telling you who you are? Does that make any sense at all? It's great to know that the President doesn't sink to your levels. Only frightened candy a$$es would stoop that low.
CATT I'm sure you quite that a lot of what xxx ooo posts is intended to be satire, it's a joke
If might perhaps translate it would seem to me the comedy is that when George W. Bush went and had meetings with the Saudis and really did bow down and beg them to lower the price in exchange for us selling them our old military tech it was just called a meeting
but when Barack Obama talks with the Saudis and actually wasn't doing the same thing the right says he's bowing down to a Saudi king and apologizing for america
So Obama talks to the Saudis he's pledging his loyalty to the "islamic world"
George Bush bows to the Saudis and begs he's just having "a meeting"
ha ha...no....I think you are playing them as more devout or generous than they really are
WOW! I was doing a bit of right wing satire! I had no idea it would get so much attention. GWB went there and the laughed! Obama had a talk with them and being the smart man he is maybe got some action, I hope they flood the market and prices drop. I think we all have had enough of this GAME with prices! And now it seems politicly motivated! Sorry people don't fight over this!!!
This is the link TM put on here a couple of days ago.
This is the reason we need to get them out
http://www.ivaw.org/about
The young men and women who made the sacrifices to go into Iraq and Afghanistan are waking up to the ignorance of these wars.....and they are taking a stand. I don't think that is un-patriotic. I think it is wise. Those who I considers un-patriotic are those who sent them there and I think it is time for them to get out. I never thought we should be in either place in the first place. My stance is, don't go to war unless we are attack.9/11 we were attack by OBL, not by a country. Obama took out OBL well after gw failed to do it with all his wars he started.
Well.... Got to get productive.
As my daddy used to say maybe not in these words, but.
"Son, every prductive moment you don't use is a productive moment you'll never use." Of course he didn't say it quite that way.
Have a good day!!
How many times are you going to trot out that same quote?
I like it six, thanks for repeating it. I am having a great day!
Well.... Got to get productive.
As my daddy used to say maybe not in these words, but.
"Son, every prductive moment you don't use is a productive moment you'll never use." Of course he didn't say it quite that way.
Have a good day!!
Even kept the misspellings.
Wasn't this AJ36 and others? Same MO.
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Sally
peterbrandt banned, rereg of politicalwatcher.
#4.2 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:58 PM PDT
mornin Kathe...hope all is well...
Hey you need to talk some sense into your buddy xxx ooo...he is all in favor of SOPA, and of course, he won't listen to reason coming from me...you, yes...me, no...
talk to you soon!
Good news Kathe...... just can't get enough can they...!
Notice who else went missing with that ban TM? Funny how they made up dozens of names when they came on the vine to post under in order to fool us that only newbies are re regs when reality is it has nothing to do with sign up dates giving them away it is their bad habits in their writing skill, like pw can't resist copy and paste posts as well as other signs. That stupid ego of theirs always get in the way, they believe that because they lack certain skills everyone else is like them, they just can't seem to grasp that anyone wouldn't be as lazy, as egotistical or as angry as they are would post on line. They are so used to thinking they are fine examples of Americana that everyone in the US share their traits when fact is only uneducated, unintelligent people make up the GOP base, the smart ones of the GOP lead, yeah oxymoron, that they only make up the same number of democratic voters and it is the fence sitters who really decide elections is also telling. How do we know this, why it is all games with them, they will lie cheat and steal to win without a thought that they win nothing it is the wealthy over lords who win in the GOP game. Look at how after it was shown to be an utter failure because the Ryan bill gives away 3 trillion dollars while cutting 1/2 a billion from spending somehow in GOP math that reduces the deficit, Ryan is back with the same exact plan that failed. You can't fix that kind of stupidity.
Haven't had the time. Thinking about running out to the Airport to See Obamas planes come in. He will be in Albquerque at Noon today, and he will be in Iowa to spend the night to night. ....running out of time myself.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20017857-503544.html
The election will come down to Wall Street vs Main Stree.
Or, lies vs facts.