Ed reacts to the latest GOP debate. He is joined for analysis by MSNBC contributor and managing editor for thegrio.com, Joy-Ann Reid, as well as former democratic senate staffer and MSNBC contributor, Jimmy Williams, and MNSBC political analyst, Richard Wolffe.
An aggressive Mitt Romney repeatedly challenged Republican presidential rival Newt Gingrich in a fast-paced campaign debate tonight, ridiculing the former House speaker's call to build costly projects in key primary states and to colonize the moon.
Romney vehemently denied Gingrich's own accusation that he anti-immigrant — more so than any other candidate. And, as charges flew back and forth, Gingrich rebutted any suggestion that he couldn't rein in surging federal spending.
"You don't just have to be cheap everywhere. You can actually have priorities to get things done," Gingrich declared, saying that as speaker of the House he had helped balance the budget while doubling spending on the National Institutes of health.
The debate was the second in four days in the run-up to next Tuesday's Florida primary. Opinion polls make the race a close one — slight advantage Romney — with two other contenders, former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and Texas Rep. Ron Paul far behind.
Gingrich's upset victory in the South Carolina primary last week upended the race for the nomination to oppose Democratic President Barack Obama in the fall, and Romney in particular can ill-afford a defeat on Tuesday.
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I'm tired of the biggoted remarks from Newt!!
I have no love for either of these candidates, but someone needs to stand up to newt the bully. I'm glad mitt gave him a run for his "MONEY"! mitt cut the newton off at the knees, leaving him without a leg to stand on.
OBAMA IS THE ONLY REAL CANDIDATE FOR 2012.!
reps "don't reflect who we are"
i will not vote for anybody that takes our rights away?.signs laws that are able to throw americans in jail without due process etc?. make us buy health care? i'll admit he hasn't got any help what so ever but this is no reason to sign these awful laws. where has american values gone were we accept this? the american people had enough. this is why ron paul has so many followers and i am one of them.
Your state makes you buy car insurance Hector. Gonna move? Your life is of lessor value than your vehicle??? Think about it.
after all these laws that are being passed i am honestly thinking about it. and no i am not forced to but car insurance... i have a choice not to drive...
You may have transit, I do not have the choice of not driving. I travel 22 miles one way to work each day. And my state has us sign our tag renewals each year to certify and verify our insurance provider.
Why - because it cuts down on the costs of insurance to all from having uninsured drivers on the road.
@Sonja Wilson-Smith, I'm still tired of Newt from the mid '90s, starting with that pile of crap called "Contract for America." Had it been called "Contract on America" instead, I would at least have been able to agree that the title was appropriate, as the contents of that Contract were not such that it would have done anything for America, but plenty to or against America. Fortunately for all of us, Newt didn't have much success in getting that Contract fulfilled.
The only reason why I'm glad the Grinch is having any success is so that he and the Robot can prove to the American public that they are both full of crap and almost all of their proposals are antithetical to an America that is of, by, and for the people, with the end result being that neither of them will be electable come November
Nice to hear that Bill Gates has confirmed that tax cuts have nothing to do with promoting job creation too. How many more times & ways are the ReJobliCuts going to try and feed us the same more of the same BS that the rich are the job creators are the people to try and justify more tax cuts for the 1%ers who are already so filthy rich that most of them won't do anything useful with more money because they don't have a philanthropic motivation that would lead them to gifting that extra money along with the millions in excess they already have) to help feed the poor, help those with foreclosure problems through no fault of their own stay in their homes, or even give back to the government to help pay off the debt.
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Sounds like Hector isn't concerned about other peoples lives, if he does not carry insurance, for any possible harm he might do to others. That is a little self centered behavior.
It is required in my state to license your car, but many drop it as soon as they get that. We also have a heavy degree of driving under the influence. You protect your self and the other driver,if you are smart, with insurance. No one should have to make you buy it. If you can't don't be driving.
Car insurance and health insurance are not the same thing and this old argument from the left is tiring. The state requires you buy insurance on your car not for you to protect yourself, it requires it to protect everyone else.
Everytime you get in your car and drive, you pose a hazard to everyone around you. If something happens, you are responsible for the damage that you create. Collision insurance, which protects your interests, is an optional coverage which the state does not require. Your loan originator might require it, but that is to protect their interest.
Health insurance does not protect anyone except the person it covers. The government has no right to tell me that I have to buy the insurance. PERIOD!
You make interesting points but do keep in mind that as you highlighted car insurance and health insurance aren't the same. When you have a car accident you are must pay the damages with health care you do not, you can walk in and out the hospital and rack thousands of dollars and never pay back a dime which means that cost must be absorbed by the tax payers not the individual
you're right the government has no right to tell you to buy insurance but realistically you don't have the right to have your medical care paid for without paying a dime back to the people
the government has no right to tell you to buy insurance but you have no right to tell us to cover your bills either.....so that creates problems because it's not like the gov't or someone else just choose not to pay.....if the person as individual doesn't pay someone else will have in reality because no company or doctor is going to work and produce items for no pay. If your company sells medical supplies you have to make money, these have to actually make some type of income otherwise they and the products they provide will cease to seen
so the rationale of the proponents is thus: a person must buy car insurance if they drive but if you don't drive you don't have to buy car insurance.....you can choose not to drive and negate this fee.......in health care you will access it at some point in life to do otherwise is very near to totally impossible so they would argue that the insurance is needed for accessing that service and all people will end up accessing that service unlike driving and thus they need to protect us from personal expense. They would argue it is fine to require insurance for making use a privelage or servicie and that health care is a kind of service that it just so happens all people will end up accessing
CC...good try but your argument is not accurate in its comparison. The one point that you make that is accurate is that no one has the right to ask any other person to cover their bills. If Americans were willing to take on more personal responsibility for their own actions...and if our borders were more closely guarded...the government would not need to be so intrusive in our lives.
Insurance is not needed to access healthcare. Americans have become spoiled into thinking that it is somebody else's responsibility to pay for their expense...like healthcare.
the arguement is not my own it is of proponents of the measure of which I am not\
read a closer next time
Is there any part of your post where you say you do not agree with the argument?
next time, be clearer in the point you are trying to make.
I do not get it ! Loyalty = Ron Paul . Wisdom of America and trust not to lie to the people to save a vote = Ron Paul .THE GOD FARTHER OF PEACE . why DO PEOPLE PICK A PRESIDENT OF OVER THE WORST OF WHAT WE HAVE AND NOT THE BEST OF WHAT WE HAVE ? RON PAUL 2012 . I am so confused over why People are brain washed to only see and hear the worst of what we have to offer as a leader and not the Man that has all People at his best interest that would not lie to save a vote. when the best is right in front of our eyes .I DO NOT GET IT !
As a G.L.B.T individual, how does he have my best interests?
As a woman who is glad she has freedom of choice, how does he have MY best interests?
Ron Paul hasn't a clue. End Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, EPA, FEMA, etc. With Ron Paul, it's every person for themselves. To hell with the UNINTED STATES. It would be 50 individual states.
it's amazing. the man even left the campaign to go vote against the ndaa. the only vet running never voted to raise taxes the list goes on. i will vote ron paul.
reply to larry74 ron paul will not end s.s. medicare/care, he wants to let the older generation who rely on it keep it and the younger generation to opt out of it. it would be a slight transition and is a better idea than everybody accepting that ss is broke and were not gonna see it at all....fema is a joke. and if obama takes anymore of our constitution apart you can bet this country will become un united.were already a 50/50 split so were not to far off.
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Hector you are young take it from people that are older Ron Paul is not what your think.
Ok, the mandate is unconstitutional according to Ron Paul, but taking part of your money to fund Medicare and SS is alright with him? This is the most ridiculous piece of crap I've ever seen, Ron Paul is a fraud, that's plain to see.
The famous mandate is a tax, that's why you get penalized through IRS if you don't buy it, just like payroll, but you get to use it right away and there's no government telling you what kind of insurance to buy or the provider to chose from, it's your call, that's more than anybody can say about Medicare or SS.
This is EXACTLY, the VERY SAME THING the GOP wants to do with SS.... isn't it? So why the bad talk about the mandate when it's a 100% republican idea?
“Socialism has no place in the hearts of those who would secure the fight for freedom and preserve democracy.”
Samuel Gompers, American Federation of Labor, 1918
Neither does ignorance, fundamentalism, extremism or fascism.
OPENRANGE: I have to laugh at these "conservatives" like Newt who would spend 200 billion to put a colony on the moon, and whose tax plan would raise the deficit up to 1 Trillion dollars a year!!
Oh yeah, Obama is the BIG SPENDER! Well, he isn't and when he does spend money it's for the people here on the freaking PLANET!
Ignorance, extremism, fundamentalism, racism and fascism. That's their mantra, alright, OR.
I was very disappointed in the debate tonight, nothing new was talked about that hasn't already been discussed in the last debates. I still can't see what these REPublicans would do to help us seniors and how they will make the Health care better after they get rid of Obama care.
I honestly don't trust any of these Republican choices for President. I am afraid what will happen if any of them become President.
Obama is are only choice!! At least he is trying to make our lives better for the Middle class and the poor.
i would like to see a ron paul/obama debate
Only 1 statement for that ROFLMAO
It would be a massacre, it's easy for Ron Paul to spit out his garbage in front of radicals and ignorants, quite another in the context of a general election in front of more civilized Americans.
That would be entertaining, but laughable, Hector. It will not happen. Some of the pictures I love seeing of Obama and Biden in casual conference, it is like father and son and the rolls are in reverse. Sweet.
Hector I would love Obama debate Paul. Paul will loose big time, Obama moves a little to Paul will run away screaming. Obama is the wrong color for Paul.
He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their for their maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.
Yahweh
What is kind about wanting the poorest to do without in-order to fund the excessive tax deductions of the wealthiest? There is nothing kind and all of it is oppressive.
Republicans want small government for a reason. In the Bush years we have seen capitalism replaced by corporatism.
Small government which has been de-regulated and over-run by big-money, big-time lobbying so that the few at the top get exponentially richer, at the same time, middle class shrinks sliding into the category of the poor.
Also, when the Bush tax cuts ends I am sincerely hoping that we return to, at the very least, the same tax structure that was in place since before Bush, thus, everyone paying more a fair share.
Get rid of subsidies for doing business overseas. No more breaks!
Bahrrt: Yes, Bush nearly destroyed this country. If the Republicans get in they will take us right back there; the deficit will raise, the safety nets will end, the middle class will be finished and the poor will be left to starve. We will have a "corporatocracy" instead of a Democracy.
Of course, if Newt wins, we'll have a colony on the moon. I try to look on the bright side! LOL
Why is it that none of the msnbc commentators ever mention Ron Paul's name? Are they afraid of his ideas, do they just want to talk about and incite fights. There is really no discussion of ideas on this channel.
I must say that msnbc is not alone. It seems that all political commentary on cable and networks avoids Paul. They gave and give lots of attention to other candidates who have less support: Cain, Bachman, Perry, and Santorum - I think commentators are interested in their own influence rather than information.
Because RP is the nuttiest nut that has ever been on the GOP ticket? RP hasn't had an ideal since Lee surrendered to Grant.
We all should be afraid of Ron Paul's ideas, and we would be, if there was a chance in Hell of him winning. He and his ideas are so off the wall (and always have been) that he is a totally unelectable candidate. larry74 #2.3 said it pretty well above. He is a kook and always has been a kook with some really strange ideas.
whom,no ideas? Apparently Larry & MJB think so. Why is he a kook? Of course I like him, he cares about our country and the people who rely on the SS, SSI, Medicaid, and Medicare systems. Is that a bad thing?
Just asking?
Those are not new ideals capt RP got his ideals from James Madison. Look at what that hands off approach ended up, the Robber Barron.
Not possible to have another outcome? This is the 21st century, not the 18th. There is too much information exchange today.
I am still more concerned with big government control than big business influence! Businesses can't write the laws.
I am still more concerned with big government control than big business influence! Businesses can't write the laws.
well at lease with the government you have rights and can get things change.
with big business they just screw you and you have absolutely no recourse at all.
sounds a little off base to me, kind of like trying to carry the water for the real blood sucks.
With business, just don't buy the products. How can they -
- if you don't buy their products?
Big government defines your rights, if you get too resolute, our government can use NDAA now to define you as a "terrorist" hand you over to the military authorities, and make you disappear without a warrant.
i guess if you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not talking about you right capt.
you what else makes you just disappear at the same rate. Alien abduction.
ya wanna know how to know who is for big government? look who supports them and who buys/runs ads for them like there showing in the debates were not enough. newt and romney are just a plain joke. santorum i will say is a decent debater and is not afraid to call a spade a spade. even polosi in the interveiw with ed says i dont wanna get involved with republicans but says openly 'i know something' if she does then shes not doing her party any favors by holding it in. what she worried about being appropriate? she should fire her hair stylist... there all dbl faced! ron paul leads by example. vote ron paul!
I'd vote RP for city sewer cleaning but he has to bring his own spoon.
Ron Paul is a nutty old geezer. The only thing I ever agreed with him on was his stance on the wars. Otherwise, his platform is awful.
I'm having a feeling that hector is not hector at all.
Just signed up and is posting, posting, posting? ? ? ?
Puts up a big warning sign for me. Just looking for red meat. We need some bug spray.
even nasty newt can smell a con.
it is so repulsive to watch these debates on t.v. as if t.v. is not bad enough.
He's back.
Really Scott? Paul wouldn't lie to save a vote? In his final answer he spewed something about Obama promising to cut wars and that wars have expanded. Did he not just end the war in Iraq despite republicans kicking and screaming about it? Did he not just bring home 10,000 troops from Afghanistan? Plus 25,000 more coming home this summer? Get your facts straight man.
I didn't watch the debate, so I didn't hear Paul's final answer. What did he say?
I appreciate Obama bringing the war to a close, but he was on Bush's timetable. My problem with Obama is that he is still doing as much or more than Bush did!
At least Paul's message and policies seem to be a change in direction. Hey, I worry about his military and abortion policies, but I would still vote for Paul over Obama. Just saying.
so you want a racist president I take it?
Yup, Obama didn't engage in torture, didn't degrade human rights, didn't engage is baseless wars, didn't care about needy children, drove the economy into the ground, ignored the imminent threat of Bin Laden... Quite a list of "accomplishments", the Shrub sure was busy destroying the country for 8 years, just like he did with every business he managed!
Oh, and about the NDAA and the fear mongering, all that bill does is to codify existing SCOTUS opinions into clear law, and it was supported by the GOP with solid numbers. Those rulings, let me remind you, came about when the court examined statutes PASSED BY THE 109th REPUBLICAN CONGRESS, but I knew you wouldn't talk about that, not convenient to the fear mongering huh?
OR...
I believe you shoukd read your posts a little more carefully before you post...
According to what you just said...
Obama didn't engage in torture, didn't degrade human rights, didn't engage is baseless wars, didn't care about needy children, drove the economy into the ground, ignored the imminent threat of Bin Laden...
Just once it would be refreshing for an MSNBC program to feature someone from the opposing side but that means they would completely destroy the purpose of filling all the uber liberals with more dribble.
Chris Mathews, Rachel Maddow and Ed all have republicans on during their shows...You don't watch MSNBC do you?
Nope he just complains that MSNBC picked the GOP presidential lineup for the GOP. The only reason they leave Fox news is they hope to stir up a ruckus over here with their history rewrites, talking points and Fox news misinformation.
ALL MSNBC comentators have righties on, almost daily. All they do is avoid questions, talk over everybody, Ron Christey, and spew their right wing lies and bash the President. Might benifit from watching once in a while.
CA we don't want are great country became Nazi Germany.
I agree, Palm. But there are a lot of people who support the fascist Democratic party. Can't they remember history? Hitler started with the banking system, then the Auto, then the healthcare, and finally the heavy industry. Can't they see any parallels?
Government is too big, big government stifles freedom and takes away personal freedom!
Hey OliN: As long as Rush is on, we're OK. Remember, he is the the most listened to radio personality ever. Took the title from Paul Harvey over 12 years ago! Ain't life great!
Yeah we remember history just not the history that you make up. Funny how you forget that the CEO's of that German economy were all Nazis and supported Hitler. But then that is what you do best, cherry pick what fits your agenda and toss everything else out the window that shows that the GOP for that Fascists like behaviors they display. Oh yeah and lets not forget how the GOP supported Hitler and admired Hitler right up until Prescott Bush lost his fortune for selling Nazi Germany steel while US military was dying from the weapons that steel made. But then in your world IOKIYA. That you are a fan of lying Rush the bill head and Paul Harvey just shows how far you will go to escape reality.
whom: I didn't bring up Nazi Germany, Palm did.
Fascism needs big government, and Obama is walking us right down that path. Now, with the authority or the NDAA, Obama can legally seize citizens and turn put them in military custody indefinitely without a warrant. You don't see a parallel?
I did bring up Rush and Paul, what's your problem with them? They seemed to be pretty popular with a lot of Americans. Rush still is! He is a great guy that is really concerned for all Americans. Don't you agree?
Inquiring minds want to know, how is listening to Rush escaping reality?
When corporations run a country, that's FASCISM.
Why don't you talk about how "economic royalists", AKA big corporations, tried to overthrow the government by the use of force in the 1930s? So much for corporations and patriotism.
It's a system designed to produce two simple types of people, masters and servants, nothing in the middle, and that's precisely what you see in totalitarian regimes.
OR: I guess because we were drawing the parallel with Nazi Germany. Fascism is not corporations running the country. Fascism is centralized (government) control of industry. The only difference in fascism and communism is ownership.
Both systems produce masters and servants, and both are big government, "totalitarian regimes".
Yes is it, it's the very definition of it, it's the end product. Even retired Supreme Court Justices have commented on that very issue.
You can't have a country where there's a few rich people and vast masses of poor people and nothing else, where your destiny is set by the economic conditions of your parents, when the only way out is through trickery and politics instead of hard work and innovation.
OR: definition of fascism:
It's big government that makes totalitarianism possible. Dems are for big gov; Repubs are for less gov. I agree:
So why are you for big government? With big government, bureaucrats decide who gets what, and who is in charge (becomes successful). Without it, the marketplace decides. Don't you want people to be able to become successful on their own?
So, let's say, torturing a person till the person dies is not really murder just because you didn't kill him with a gun or a blow to the head?
Corporations lobby as one, that's the problem, they're one small sector of the population, the famous 1%. When you focus on one interest, even go to war to please that interest at the expense of everybody else, when you have a few people running everything, you can hide it at any level you want but the truth remains, it's a totalitarian regime when the vast majority are oppressed by a very, very small minority.
When you take away worker's right, suppress the vote, advance corporate interests at the expense of the very well being of the people under economic theories that don't ever prove right...
Then you have people like Dick Cheney and the GOP sponsoring the theory of the Unitary Executive. And then you have the GOP in MI ignoring the popular vote and installing unelected officials with complete control to ignore, delete, modify and create law at will... Tie the knot.
I can't ever explain it as good as Justices and other people would, but I gave it a shot.
And I will add more.
You don't like the comparison to Nazi Germany, but the theory Hitler used to justify his racial holocaust was designed right here in the United States. Eugenics, an AMERICAN IDEA, was utilized by the Nazi Party to justify the destruction the previous war had caused to Germany and the German people.
Racism has potent and strong roots here, and in germany it got out of control because of the hate talk and blaming others for the things they did themselves under racist excuses and absurd theories. Nobody wants to hear "its your fault", it's a basic human fact.
That's exactly what you hear now, the only difference is that you can't see it in plain sight.
Let me remind you, nobody in Germany saw it coming, only those in power, many Germans were indoctrinated to believe in that crap and others simply didn't know. From talk to action there's usually not enough time to actually realize what you're doing and that's even a fact codified into criminal law.
It's time for people to speak up, stop the crap, stop the hate and actually vote for their very own interests. Ignoring reality is usually DEVASTATING, history tells us that much.
CA I am talking about company and Rush Limbaugh and people like this who are out to destroy this great country. Rush Limbaugh is Fascist, Racist and Drug addict and so your give credit to what Rush Limbaugh said you are uninformed person.
And to answer the question of big government, no, I'm not for a monstrosity of a government, but I'm for a government that works.
The only reason you have a Constitution and not the AOC is because Hamilton argued for a "strong federal government as opposed to the shadow of a government currently established under the Articles".
Government that works doesn't have to be intrusive. I'm opposed to Patriot Act, SOPA, PIPA, DOMA and other absurd intrusions into private life.
President Bush Sr raised taxes, and few, very few will concede today part of the boom under the Clinton administration was the direct result of the courageous choice Bush Sr. took for the benefit of the country regardless of the political consequences.
But I'm all for a government that respects the basic REPUBLICAN IDEA "for, by and from the people", not "for, by and from the Corporations", and I'm sad to say, Citizens United took care of the "from" part when it comes to a consolidated regime of the Corporations over people, a regime of oppression of the masses to benefit a few, a system designed to benefit profit over human rights, and that my friend is the trademark of a Fascist regime.
Captain, that is nonsense and does not belong here on our vine. Fascism is not the subject for discussion. Communism is not the subject, either.
Rush Limbaugh is the ugliest, most loathsome, disgusting, deplorable, angry, virulent, ignorant, uninformed, malignant, rabid, racist piece of trash on the air. For some reason I don't like the man. Go figure!
I agree, Palm. But there are a lot of people who support the fascist Democratic party. Can't they remember history? Hitler started with the banking system, then the Auto, then the healthcare, and finally the heavy industry. Can't they see any parallels?
Ifor1: what did Paul say that was so racist? That's all I'm askin' here.
Government is too big, big government stifles freedom and takes away personal freedom!
Hey OliN: As long as Rush is on, we're OK. Remember, he is the most listened to radio personality ever. Took the title from Paul Harvey over 12 years ago! Ain't life great!
Sorry for the double post, from me to my computer to the blogsite, things get confused. Some say I'm confused. Oh well!
I forgot to put Sherron's name in, and wanted to ask Ifor1 about the racist comment. Got 1 for 2. Maybe I need to go back and rest, till Rush comes on! :-)
I am feel sorry for you because the GOP are the real Fascist. Hitler got people like your to surport him. The Repugblican has had thirty years to slower killing this country and they are not finish yet.
Agreed Palm, but there is no time to waste on someone who is hard of hearing and turns off his hearing aid. We should be watching out for nasty newt, vine wasp are a waste of bug spray.
@ CaptAmerica USMC and Palmquist1
When has a member of the military, especially, the Marines have ever been oppressed by its government? Where does this fear come from?
I don't know if you realize it, but Hitler was excellent at propagating fear. And it seems to me that by your posts you are essentially doing much of the same.
bahrrt yes I know how Hitter used Propagating fear and hate that is Fox News has been doing for a long time. As a Military person your should stop the lying out there or do your agree with?
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